Re: The wider agenda

by Liz Eagles 20.06.14 19:30

tasprin wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Am I a "Hater" if I believe the Tapas 7 statements that the weather was cold, and do NOT believe Kay Burley that it was a warm evening
OR
Am I a "Hater" if I believe Kay Burley that the evening was warm and choose NOT to believe the Tapas 7

Am I a "hater if I believe that the curtains were wide open,
OR
am I a "Hater" if I believe they were tight closed.
In each case I have specifically to put aside what Kate said on the other occasion

OR am I just a "Hater" because I don't blindly accept the "Story of the Day"

The 'Look for Maddie' coloboma was only a 'fleck'; The Shutters weren't jemmied after all; Jane Tanner's Bundleman didn't really abduct Madeleine; The Fund to find her was used to sue a policeman; 'The Search' didn't answer the helpline or follow up leads. All good marketing ploys but the story, as told in May 2007, turned out to be pants. Labelling sceptical people as haters is another marketing ploy = We didn't tell the truth but you're a hater for questioning us.

Not attractive pants, not pants that at least capture the eye - just these pants big pink pants. laughat

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by Guest 20.06.14 19:46

Judge Mental wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:I like the way he adds up his maths : investigation + fund = wider agenda.

What wider agenda? Isn't this about finding maddie?

It is either about investigation or about fund - how can the two be co-related?

Why was he corelating fund to investigation? Does it mean they'd meant this fund from the start for dodgy pi to keep up appearance, hence the wider agenda objective?

It is many years since one was at school and perhaps things have changed now, however to have a summative overview on the day where Gerald McCann had drawn up this mystical diagram, suggests something that would not be traditionally regarded as having had any intrinsic learning value at that point.

Exactly. A summative overview is one which assesses how successful a plan has been following it's conclusion. This plan is in the formative stage, Gerry himself states that the meeting was to discuss future campaign ideas.

His use of 'summative' is just another example of him erroneously trying to demonstrate his intellect. The thick fcuk.

by Constablekid 21.06.14 8:14

I wonder if 'Investigation' was first written as 'invest' and he later added the 'igation' bit on the end?

by sallypelt 21.06.14 8:21

When are the McCann's going to get their gong?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surgeon-made-mbe-last-week-was-struck-off-in-2002-for-research-fraud-9552928.html

by Mirage 21.06.14 8:26

Constablekid wrote:I wonder if 'Investigation' was first written as 'invest' and he later added the 'igation' bit on the end?

by missbeetle 21.06.14 9:13

sallypelt wrote:When are the McCann's going to get their gong?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surgeon-made-mbe-last-week-was-struck-off-in-2002-for-research-fraud-9552928.html

I was surprised to see Our Lady of the Veins - Angelina Jolie - beat our Kate to a Damehood.

I fear that Gerry's penchant for polo shirts may be partly to blame.

I cannot take him seriously.

Meanwhile, check out this meritorious MBE'd martial artist...

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(Ssssnipped from the Daily Mail)

by Cordelia 21.06.14 9:28

Morning all,

Whatever we think of the McCanns it has to be said that they have been in the spotlight for 7 years, managed to make millions of £'s , some to go to the Fund, deleted not fact and stated as fact , been interviewed around the World........yet STILL have managed to avoid an investigation for fraud and no suspicion of their involvment in Madeleine's disappearance , except in Forums and blogs. Quite an acheivement , like the JonBenet case.

by l'idiote 21.06.14 9:46

Regarding the emphasis on the word (and images of a) 'Key'.

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/key.html

KEY

"The Key," says Doctor Oliver (Landmarks I, page 180), "is one of the most important symbols of Freemasonry. It bears the appearance of a common metal instrument, confined to the performance of one simple act. But the well-instructed brother beholds in it the symbol which teaches him to keep a tongue of good report, and to abstain from the debasing vices of slander and defamation." Among the ancients the key was a symbol of silence and circumspection; and thus Sophocles alludes to it in the Oedipus Coloneus (line 105), where he makes the chorus speak of "the golden key which had come upon the tongue of the ministering Hierophant in the mysteries of Eleusis-Callimachus says that the Priestess of Ceres bore a key as the ensign of her mystic office. The key was in the Mysteries of Isis a hieroglyphic of the opening or disclosing of the heart and conscience, in the kingdom of death, for trial and Judgment.

In the old instructions of Freemasonry the key was an important symbol, and Doctor Oliver regrets that it has been abandoned in the modern system. In the ceremonies of the First Degree, in the eighteenth century allusion is made to a key by whose help the secrets of Freemasonry are to be obtained, which key "is said to hang and not to lie, because it is always to hang in a brother's defense and not to lie to his prejudge." It was said, too, to hang "by the thread of life at the entrance, " and was closely connected with the heart, because the tongue "ought to utter nothing but what the heart dictates." And, finally, this key is described as being "composed of no metal, but a tongue of good report." In the ceremonies of the Masters Degree in the Adonhiramite Rite, we find this catechism (in the Recueil Précieu:, page 87):

What do you conceal?
All the secrets which have been intrusted to me.
Where do you conceal them?
In the heart.
Have you a key to gain entrance there?
Yes, Right Worshipful.
Where do you keep it?
In a box of coral which opens and shuts only with ivory teeth.
Of what metal is it composed?
Of none. It is a tongue obedient to reason, which knows only how to speak well of those of whom it speaks in their absence as in their presence.

All of this shows that the key as a symbol was formerly equivalent to the modern symbol of the "instructive tongue," which, however, with almost the same interpretation, has now been transferred to the Second or Fellow-Craft's Degree. The key, however, is still preserved as a symbol of secrecy in the Royal Arch Degree; and it is also presented to us in the same sense in the ivory key of the Secret Master, or Fourth Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. In many of the German Lodges an ivory key is made a part of the Masonic clothing of each Brother, to remind him that he should lock up or conceal the secrets of Freemasonry in his heart. But among the ancients the key was also a symbol of power; and thus among the Greeks the title of Kxeiaouxos or key-bearer, was bestowed upon one holding high office; and with the Romans, the keys are given to the bride on the day of marriage, as a token that the authority of the house was bestowed upon her; and if afterward divorced, they were taken from her, as a symbol of the deprivation of her office, Among the Hebrews the key was used in the same sense. "As the robe and the baldric," says Lowth (Israel, part ii, section 4), "were the ensigns of power and authority, so likewise was the key the mark of office, either sacred or civil." Thus in Isaiah (xxii, 22), it is said: "The key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulders; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open" Our Savior expressed a similar idea when he said to Saint Peter, "I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven." It is in reference to this interpretation of the symbol, and not that of secrecy, that the key has been adopted as the official jewel of the Treasurer of a Lodge, because he has the purse, the source of power, under his command.

- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry

by Cordelia 21.06.14 10:48

Morning l'idiote

What do you conceal?
All the secrets which have been intrusted to me.
Where do you conceal them?
In the heart.
Have you a key to gain entrance there?
Yes, Right Worshipful.
Where do you keep it?
In a box of coral which opens and shuts only with ivory teeth.
Of what metal is it composed?
Of none. It is a tongue obedient to reason, which knows only how to speak well of those of whom it speaks in their absence as in their presence."

That's quite Poetic I remember the Lord Lucan case , who was supposed to have killed the Nannie, he disappeared without a trace, said to be
helped by Freemasons ,do you think they are that powerful ??

by j.rob 21.06.14 14:21

Peter Wilmshurst, a cardiologist at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire and a campaigner on medical research fraud, said: “Mr Banerjee did awful things and only eight years after getting back on to the medical register he is rewarded with an MBE.
“If you have got a record of misconduct going back to the late 1980s, you would have to do something very remarkable in the next eight years to deserve an award. But I have not heard of him doing anything.”

Quite.

I certainly don't want to trust my healthcare to a criminal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surgeon-made-mbe-last-week-was-struck-off-in-2002-for-research-fraud-9552928.html

by j.rob 21.06.14 14:24

Peter Wilmshurst, a cardiologist and a campaigner on medical research fraud.

Now this is a man I would like to interview.

Let's hope he doesn't get 'whooshed'.

by j.rob 21.06.14 14:37

ufercoffy wrote:

Are we any closer to knowing what this 'wider agenda' is yet?

Look at the loving, intense gaze that Gerry is bestowing on his new 'baby'. Almost as if he is in love. His eyes are positively caressing what he clearly thinks is a brilliant work of art.

by Rasputin 21.06.14 14:52

The hounours system in This country has been an embarrassing sham for a long long time....A knighthood for riding a bike ? ...busfare home for losing your legs in service ...sickening .

by j.rob 21.06.14 15:00

Mirage wrote:
Constablekid wrote:I wonder if 'Investigation' was first written as 'invest' and he later added the 'igation' bit on the end?

Both the word INVEST and the word (LIT) IGATION are very apt.

If you look carefully, you can see that the word INVESTIGATION looks different on the top chart compared with the picture below. The top one looks more like is starts with QUEST or something. Knowing Gerry, I bet there are some hidden meanings and codes in here. He's like The Joker.

by j.rob 21.06.14 15:05

Gerry's identical twin?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(comics)

by j.rob 21.06.14 15:09

If Gerry's identical twin is THE JOKER.

Who is Kate's identical twin?

by Markus 2 21.06.14 17:09

LYING & COVERING UP IS EXPECTED OF A FREEMASON:

The Handbook of Freemasonry (page 183) says to Master Masons:

"You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him... It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations",You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons, except murder and treason,Not murder, was it.

by Markus 2 21.06.14 18:25

Re: The wider agenda
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Regarding the emphasis on the word (and images of a) 'Key'.

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/key.html

KEY
"The Key," says Doctor Oliver (Landmarks I, page 180), "is one of the most important symbols of Freemasonry. It bears the appearance of a common metal instrument, confined to the performance of one simple act. But the well-instructed brother beholds in it the symbol which teaches him to keep a tongue of good report, and to abstain from the debasing vices of slander and defamation." Among the ancients the key was a symbol of silence and circumspection; and thus Sophocles alludes to it in the Oedipus Coloneus (line 105), where he makes the chorus speak of "the golden key which had come upon the tongue of the ministering Hierophant in the mysteries of Eleusis-Callimachus says that the Priestess of Ceres bore a key as the ensign of her mystic office. The key was in the Mysteries of Isis a hieroglyphic of the opening or disclosing of the heart and conscience, in the kingdom of death, for trial and Judgment.

And you have the key here around what appears to be Kate s neck
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I cannot copy that photo but it is on the first page of ,Madeline s makeup, thread Shocked

never going to happen is it .

by Justformaddie 21.06.14 18:52

j.rob wrote:
ufercoffy wrote:

Are we any closer to knowing what this 'wider agenda' is yet?

Look at the loving, intense gaze that Gerry is bestowing on his new 'baby'. Almost as if he is in love. His eyes are positively caressing what he clearly thinks is a brilliant work of art.

Certainly nothing to do with maddie, not even her name Sad

by Markus 2 21.06.14 19:14

interesting Idiote

The key, however, is still preserved as a symbol of secrecy in the Royal Arch Degree; and it is also presented to us in the same sense in the ivory key of the Secret Master, or Fourth Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. In many of the German Lodges an ivory key is made a part of the Masonic clothing of each Brother, to remind him that he should lock up or conceal the secrets of Freemasonry in his heart

by SchrodingersBody 21.06.14 19:39

PeterMac wrote:Am I a "Hater" if I believe the Tapas 7 statements that the weather was cold, and do NOT believe Kay Burley that it was a warm evening
OR
Am I a "Hater" if I believe Kay Burley that the evening was warm and choose NOT to believe the Tapas 7

Am I a "hater if I believe that the curtains were wide open,
OR
am I a "Hater" if I believe they were tight closed.
In each case I have specifically to put aside what Kate said on the other occasion

OR am I just a "Hater" because I don't blindly accept the "Story of the Day"

I've been on twitter.....It's the last one primarily, with bits of the others thrown in.

by j.rob 21.06.14 20:12

Ad hominem attack. You label a person who is asking legitimate (and awkward) questions as a 'nutter', 'conspiracy theorist', 'hater', nasty person with evil thoughts.

And so on.

It's a bit like the witch hunt of old. Or the strategy whereby you got someone admitted to a loony bin, just to shut them up, discredit them and generally get them out of your evil way.

Whereas, quite often, the people making these kinds of ad hominem attacks are guilty of the very thing they are accusing their critics of.

It's a technique that is as old as the hills.

Beloved of people who want to cover up negligence, bad behaviour, unprofessional behaviour, incompetence, dishonesty, corruption. And so on.

I've seen it again and again.

by j.rob 21.06.14 20:16

McCann hater = McCann disbeliever.

I am a McCann non-believer.

Nothing to be ashamed of.

big grin

by The Rooster 21.06.14 20:16

Gerry McCann and his use of jargon talk is all about elevating his ego in others peoples estimation. It bolsters his confidence and makes him feel sophisticated. It's the classic tool of the bullshitter. All for show.

Remember his less than convincing interview with Jeremy Paxman, the prick was all over the place trying to dance around with words and tripping up time and again.. ******* amateur!

by j.rob 21.06.14 20:20

I love that interview. Paxman looked as though a very bad smell had arrived and he couldn't bear it. His body language was such a giveaway. He really looked disgusted.

In my opinion.

by XTC 22.06.14 0:31

fossey wrote:He likes to get that word 'KEY' in again.

Mr obsessed with the 'Key'.

The key to this.. The Key to that.

Well hopefully Mr they will be throwing away the Key very soon. Yes, the Key to your Prison Cell.

There are some ' Keys ' here:

taken on the early morning of the 4th of May 2007.

One is a Crucifx key -front door

One is a big deadlock key.

One looks like a car key - a very old ( pre 1987 car) key.
Thanks to the wonderful Pamalam for this.

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Also: a statement from Maria Manuela Martins da Silva;

With thanks to the maddiecasefiles.

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Processos

Volume II

Pages 469 – 470a

Maria Manuela Martins da Silva

Date/Time: 2007/05/08 14H00
Domestic
Portuguese

Concerning the issue of the process said;
. That she resides in Praia da Luz;
. That she often visits ********, sister of her boyfriend, who resides in Block 6, Apartment 5 in the resort known as the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, in Lagos
. The block in question is contiguous with that one occupied by the McCann family, and is a ground-floor with a kitchen window having visibility to the back windows of the apartment occupied by Madeleine McCann;
. On 03-05-07, the deponent, as is customary, visited her friend ******, as a rule she passes the afternoon with her;
. The night, generally around 22H00, she leaves with her boyfriend, *******, for their residence indicated above;
. Declares that she left the apartment around 22H00, as was her habit, as the deponent generally makes and receives calls to family at 22H30 at/from her residence;
. The deponent and her boyfriend have two vehicles, a light passenger jeep of the mark Opel, model Frontera, green in colour, with license plate ***** and another light passenger vehicle, mark-Renault, Laguna model, gery in colour with license plate *****;
. Together the vehicles are registered in the name of her boyfriend;
. Declares further that on the night 03-05-07, she left the apartment at around 21H58—she remembers the exact time because she asked her friend the time and she responded after checking this on the telephone in the lounge;
. They left the building and the deponent and her boyfriend took the Opel Frontera, previously indicated, which was parked out front of the apartment, in the private parking area of Block 6 where her freind’s apartment was located;
. She declares that the night was good with a breeze, and that it was dark;
. After leaving Block 6, they turned right and after left, passing in front of the block occupied by the McCanns. She states that she saw no movement of people, and that in the immediate areas of the blocks she saw no vehicle with the exception of a small car, that appeared to her grey in colour, parked close to the window of the McCann apartment;
She declares further that she mentioned this fact to her boyfriend and that it wasn’t yet summer given the movement on the roads, and at that hour movement was nill;
. States that she looked at the exit of the apartment and that from the flat above the McCanns, she saw light, and also in from of the apartment, but she could not define, concretely, where she saw the light when she passed the McCann apartment;
. Next to the tree, she did not detect any movement of people or vehicles, and nothing struck her as abnormal in that zone that would have raised her suspicions;
. She only learnt of what had happened to little Madeleine the next day after having received a telephone call from her friend, who alerted her to what had happened;
. And nothing more said, having read the statement, finds it in conformity and signs it;
. The document is duly signed by me …

Carlos Dordonnat, Inspector with this Polícia Judiciária.

by j.rob 22.06.14 0:34

Good for him that he bowled out......

what a hideous can of worms....

by Brian Griffin 22.06.14 2:50

Markus 2 wrote:
LYING & COVERING UP IS EXPECTED OF A FREEMASON:
The Handbook of Freemasonry (page 183) says to Master Masons:

"You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him... It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations",You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons, except murder and treason,Not murder, was it.

And there you have the whole thing in a nutshell. Freemasonry trumps the Law. Gerry isn't a Freemason is he, by any chance?

by Brian Griffin 22.06.14 2:55

Just noticed but...top pic - I mean 'kinell couldn't your wife have, at least, ironed it for you!

Maybe she was writing one of her bewks.

by Guest 22.06.14 10:27

more 'keys' there as well fossey...

I too, can't yet understand the significance of the 'key' word - unless our GM thinks it makes him sound intelligent big grin