Re: Fund now more than £17,500

by Liz Eagles 25.05.15 21:45

Nina wrote:Maybe now, there will be a surge in donations.

Stop me, stop me, there won't be any surge in donations from Cristobell.

It's Bank Holiday weekend. It's also days before payday for many folk.

The fact remains that £21k has already been offered up and will continue.

It probably won't come from large donations but more of a trickle.

That doesn't alter the sentiment and belief that GA deserves to have funds in order to have legal representation in a civil lawsuit. Just as Tony Bennett deserved the same but didn't have the support at the time. Whether you agree or disagree with either GA or Tony Bennett, they were gagged and the general population who contributed to the Madeleine Fund unwittingly paid for that.

by Guest 25.05.15 21:58

LeanneBaulch wrote:Hi there,

I'm very new to JillHaverns, and not good at working out how to use this sort of forum, but I think I'm in the right place?

Firstly, just to confirm, I'm not new to the case, I've followed it for a few years. I am known on Facebook and Twitter, but evidently not on here.

Secondly, any money donated via the GoFundMe goes directly to the PJGA account, which has been in place since 2009. I do not see any of the money, and that can be confirmed if you contact Astro via the PJGA website. Although they have confirmed they are receiving the money already.

I apologise if it hasn't already been made clear, I should have joined here sooner to explain it to those that don't use twitter or Facebook.

If you have any further questions then I'm happy to answer them. I'm just the GoFundMe organiser, I don't see any money, and I'm not part of PJGA. Just someone that was desperate to help a man in his fight for justice, I contacted Astro with the idea before I set up the site.

Thanks for getting in touch with me Jill, I hope that has cleared up a few queries xx

Leanne hello!

Guilty as charged. I very recently questioned your authenticity as I had never previously heard of your name so I asked if anyone had checked you out. Your connection has subsequently been explained to me so I have no reason to further question your GoFundMe account. Have to admit I googled GoFundMe as I'd never heard of it before, when I saw it was a name to be used by anyone who wishes to raise money for any cause, my immediate thought was 'allo 'allo 'allo, something very fishy 'ere.

I trust you will excuse and forgive my doubting you (I'm suspicious by nature), IMO cyberspace can be a very dangerous place, some of the things I've seen makes me very suspicious of motives, there is so much deception and duplicity it's hard to trust anyone.

Thank you for taking the trouble to explain your position, much appreciated.

by **Jill Havern** 25.05.15 22:00

Don't forget to make a donation Verdi [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] winkwink

by Guest 25.05.15 22:04

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Don't forget to make a donation Verdi [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Ha! Ha! Ha! - Done up like a kipper... eyebrows

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by notlongnow 25.05.15 22:49

Excellent work Leanne. thumbsup

by LeanneBaulch 25.05.15 22:51

All is forgiven, and forgotten :). People are allowed to ask questions, I'm not easily offended xx

by Joss 26.05.15 1:46

Hi Leanne, welcome2

& Thankyou, it is very good of you to come here and answer people's questions about the Gofundme site. You are doing a great service for Goncalo Amaral's plight and are wished every success in your venture.

by Joss 26.05.15 1:49

Verdi wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Don't forget to make a donation Verdi [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Ha! Ha! Ha! - Done up like a kipper...

ETA: I reserve the right to remain incognito.

by Joss 26.05.15 1:56

LeanneBaulch wrote:It'll carry on, there's no limit on how much we can raise. I will keep it going until Gonçalo's legal bills are covered.

Thanks for the clarification.

by LeanneBaulch 26.05.15 2:40

Thank you Joss :)

by Joss 26.05.15 2:43

Verdi wrote:
Joss wrote:
Verdi wrote:
Joss wrote:
Verdi wrote:
Ashwarya wrote:Shades of McCann tactics here, I think. I am sure there is at least one person on their payroll dedicated to discrediting anything that might alleviate the desperate plight of Goncalo Amaral. Surely anyone genuinely in doubt about Leanne's fund would find their way to the PJGA website to check out what they had to say, and then there would be no need to raise any doubts in public.

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Ashwarya, I resent that comment if directed at me, which it appears very much to be as I'm the one that asked a question.

For your information I have no allegiance with the McCann faction in any way shape or form. If as a member you care to check my profile statistics, past comments should clarify exactly where I stand on the subject! I have read the link you posted and I'm totally aware of Dr. Amaral's plight resulting from the McCanns avaricious, evil and vindictive motives. That has nothing to do with my orignal question.

I said I wasn't going to speak on the subject again but I won't be subjcted to false unfounded insinuations without defending myself. I find it deeply offensive to be accused of being associated with the McCann support network. Nina has now made the position clear, I have no desire to continue the subject. Be assured I meant no malice.

As an aside, I taken great pains in the past to defend this forum against unreasonable accusations of having an agenda or being a closed shop or people not being welcome unless they toe the line or being closet McCann'ites - please don't give me cause to regret supporting you guys.
Verdi, IMO you don't need to justify yourself. Its a public forum, not a courtroom, lol, don't worry about it, i for one enjoy posting with you and look forward to reading your well thought out posts, :)
Thanks for the vote of confidence but I'm beginning to lose the will to live. I'm going down the boozer at least they know I'm the genuine article!

Bottoms up!
Hey Verdi, don't you be thinking like that now. I am a survivor and if i can find the will to live so can you. I have been through it and sometimes don't know why i am still here, but i am, and there is a reason. Have a drink for me too while you are there, take care.
This is your lucky day! I've had more than one for you, in fact I've had several so don't go getting all loose tongued.

Believe me I've been hanged, drawn and quartered over this case on some trifling little venue that feigns to liberally discuss the Madeleine McCann case (ha blooming ha). I've even been accused of being firmly ensconced right up TB's rear quarters - don't know who would suffer more from such a seemingly impossible physical contortion, all sounds a bit yucky to me.

OMG me me me , I'm beginning to sound like shush... you know who! Back to business before I'm accused of being an alter ego. Byeee!

Well thanks Verdi smilie

I sure could use some luck.
Oh i know what you mean, i am gobsmacked by some of the stuff i read sometimes, not just here either.
But i try not to take any of it seriously, after all its a blog and we don't really know the people behind the pc.
I stay here because one day hopefully justice will be served for those that have been silenced, and when all is said and done it really is all about an innocent child that needs to be found, but sadly so many missing children are never found sad

by Joss 26.05.15 2:48

LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)

You're welcome Leanne smilie

I am in awe of the amazing response you have had so far and it just goes to show that there are some great peeps out there that are willing to help for a good cause when its needed.

by Joss 26.05.15 12:54

What's going on with the posts on this thread, they are out of sync. and some have disappeared, LOL.

by **Jill Havern** 26.05.15 13:01

Joss wrote:What's going on with the posts on this thread, they are out of sync. and some have disappeared, LOL.

I've split the thread as it went off topic. The off topic part is in the Members Lounge.

by Joss 26.05.15 13:16

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Joss wrote:What's going on with the posts on this thread, they are out of sync. and some have disappeared, LOL.
I've split the thread as it went off topic. The off topic part is in the Members Lounge.

Thankyou for the reply, i thought it was my computer acting up, smilie

by Guest 27.05.15 23:15

LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)

Leanne, your assistance please as you've taken the trouble to register in order to answer queries, small delay in asking but I lost the run of you. I've had a look at your GoFundMe link but I'm hesitant to proceed without clarification of a small point.

This is not a winge about money, after all on the whole only small sums are being donated so that aspect is no big deal. Having been the victim of online credit card fraud and my true identity revealed by some cyber stalker, I'm more concerned about personal information being given over. I've never made a payment online before that doesn't claim to be handled by a totally independent secure payment site, nor have I ever been asked to reveal my name and email address outside of the secure payment procedure. Can you please explain why this is necessary? I'm probably being a tw@ but safety first and all that!

Also, although only a matter of interest rather than any concern about making a donation, how/why was the sum of £25K determined?

by LeanneBaulch 28.05.15 7:36

Verdi wrote:
LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)
Leanne, your assistance please as you've taken the trouble to register in order to answer queries, small delay in asking but I lost the run of you. I've had a look at your GoFundMe link but I'm hesitant to proceed without clarification of a small point.

This is not a winge about money, after all on the whole only small sums are being donated so that aspect is no big deal. Having been the victim of online credit card fraud and my true identity revealed by some cyber stalker, I'm more concerned about personal information being given over. I've never made a payment online before that doesn't claim to be handled by a totally independent secure payment site, nor have I ever been asked to reveal my name and email address outside of the secure payment procedure. Can you please explain why this is necessary? I'm probably being a tw@ but safety first and all that!

Also, although only a matter of interest rather than any concern about making a donation, how/why was the sum of £25K determined?

Hi Verdi,

So I asked GoFundMe the question regarding payments, you can do the same too. Here is the question, and reply.

Is it safe to donate online?
It sure is! GoFundMe uses the same secure & encrypted payments technology as your bank. If you're uncertain about giving to a certain campaign, you can easily contact the Campaign Organizer for more information.

I don't see any bank details, but I do see the email provided. You can put any old email in, the only reason it asks you for your email, is so that the GoFundMe organiser can send updates and thank donors. My interest isn't who is who, although I do not expect you to take my word for it, so if you do wish to donate, just pop in any email, real or not, it doesn't make any difference to the payment.

GoFundMe has been aroun for many years, and it has a very good reputation (which is why I chose that particular crowd funding site). The site is very safe and secure, I have never heard of any credit card fraud taking place due to GoFundMe. I don't think it would do as well if that were the case.

£25K was just a target, I didn't expect it to do as well as it has. I knew people would donate, and support Goncalo, but it was merely for those that don't use PayPal, or wanted to leave a message of support with their donations. The fund will continue to receive donations past the £25K mark, as Goncalo's legal cost will amount to much more unfortunately.

I hope I have answered your questions, if not, give me a nudge. It's early so I am a bit glazed eyed still. Oh and sorry for the delay xxx

by Guest 28.05.15 11:27

LeanneBaulch wrote:
Verdi wrote:
LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)
Leanne, your assistance please as you've taken the trouble to register in order to answer queries, small delay in asking but I lost the run of you. I've had a look at your GoFundMe link but I'm hesitant to proceed without clarification of a small point.

This is not a winge about money, after all on the whole only small sums are being donated so that aspect is no big deal. Having been the victim of online credit card fraud and my true identity revealed by some cyber stalker, I'm more concerned about personal information being given over. I've never made a payment online before that doesn't claim to be handled by a totally independent secure payment site, nor have I ever been asked to reveal my name and email address outside of the secure payment procedure. Can you please explain why this is necessary? I'm probably being a tw@ but safety first and all that!

Also, although only a matter of interest rather than any concern about making a donation, how/why was the sum of £25K determined?

Hi Verdi,

So I asked GoFundMe the question regarding payments, you can do the same too. Here is the question, and reply.

Is it safe to donate online?
It sure is! GoFundMe uses the same secure & encrypted payments technology as your bank. If you're uncertain about giving to a certain campaign, you can easily contact the Campaign Organizer for more information.

I don't see any bank details, but I do see the email provided. You can put any old email in, the only reason it asks you for your email, is so that the GoFundMe organiser can send updates and thank donors. My interest isn't who is who, although I do not expect you to take my word for it, so if you do wish to donate, just pop in any email, real or not, it doesn't make any difference to the payment.

GoFundMe has been aroun for many years, and it has a very good reputation (which is why I chose that particular crowd funding site). The site is very safe and secure, I have never heard of any credit card fraud taking place due to GoFundMe. I don't think it would do as well if that were the case.

£25K was just a target, I didn't expect it to do as well as it has. I knew people would donate, and support Goncalo, but it was merely for those that don't use PayPal, or wanted to leave a message of support with their donations. The fund will continue to receive donations past the £25K mark, as Goncalo's legal cost will amount to much more unfortunately.

I hope I have answered your questions, if not, give me a nudge. It's early so I am a bit glazed eyed still. Oh and sorry for the delay xxx

Thank you Leanne for such a detailed reply, it's certainly eased my mind. To be honest I'd never even heard of GoFundMe before, what an ignoramus eh?

I wish you well and further success with your excellent venture. Never know my little query might also encourage other sceptics to donate - we can at least hope!

Have a good day. smilie

by LeanneBaulch 28.05.15 15:32

You too :) x

by lj 28.05.15 15:57

Hi Leanne,

Thank you for all your effort in this.
First a general remark: there are a lot of people who cannot give a big amount at once, but who intend to give smaller amount frequently. This would be an extra reason to keep your gofundme site open, even after the goal is reached. 25,000 is a nice amount, but considering the legal work in the past, and the fact that I suspect the McCanns are not done yet it might be helpful.

Another question many have: do you get more personal information, like the real name, other than the email address?

by Richard IV 30.05.15 10:46

Hi Leanne
Have the UK media shown any interest in the immense support for Goncalo ?
Do you think they may approach you for an interview?
If so, be very careful because no doubt they will twist anything you say into trash, as they do with anyone who doubts the McCanns and supports GA.

by LeanneBaulch 30.05.15 10:54

Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.

by Richard IV 30.05.15 11:31

Thanks Leanne and good luck roses

by Amy Dean 30.05.15 12:53

There has been a donation of £1,000.00 from a group of police officers.

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by **Jill Havern** 30.05.15 13:15

LeanneBaulch wrote:Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.

Just to clarify for lj - you can use a fake name and a fake email address. Or you can just post as anonymous. You don't have to use your real name or your real email address.

Thank you once again, Leanne, for providing this Fundraising site, it's absolutely fantastic - especially for those of us who don't have a PayPal account. You're a star, Leanne roses

And this is for the "very large group of Brit police officers" who have just donated £1,000 - I hope MPS stands for Metropolitan Police whistling

by aiyoyo 30.05.15 13:30

To LB,

If you ever decide to accept interview of selected journalist/s @ your preferred choice of newspapers when the target is reached, may I suggest that you make a point to -

(1) highlight collated commentaries of those ones that made the most impact.
The ones from MPS (recent), PM (magistrate related background) and some other ones that showed people are appalled at vindictive McCanns destroying a SIO just for doing his job.
(2) Cite the passage in Kate's book that states that she wants him to feel harm and fear.
(3) State also that their vindictiveness is unparalleled in UK and Portugal civil case history, in that not only they want him destroyed and feel fear, they also set out to strangle him of finance means to hire legal defence against their suit by having his assets frozen from the get go.
(4) That this is very appalling behavior from a pair that had stated in public they were prepared to forgive the abductor.
(5) Another point to be stated is that Gerry had said at the Leveson Inquiry that he is not against people purporting theories, so his suit against a Police Officer for having a theory is in total contradiction to his statement.

Hence the reasons (on top of disbelieving the Mcs abduction theory) why many people from all over the globe that follow the McCanns case ( with the bulk coming from UK), are willing to support Dr. Amaral Legal Fund.

ETA: One more thing that I forgot earlier. Add in Richard Hall's videos to refer journalists to the Mcs dodgy private detectives. And the commentary that they spent a lot of money hiring dodgy private detectives for the search, but the best lawyers for their litigation suits.

by aiyoyo 30.05.15 13:33

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
LeanneBaulch wrote:Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.

Just to clarify for lj - you can use a fake name and a fake email address. Or you can just post as anonymous. You don't have to use your real name or your real email address.

Thank you once again, Leanne, for providing this Fundraising site, it's absolutely fantastic - especially for those of us who don't have a PayPal account. You're a star, Leanne

And this is for the "very large group of Brit police officers" who have just donated £1,000 - I hope MPS stands for Metropolitan Police

Since the donation is from a group of police officers, likely MPS (standing for Metropolitan Police Service) is a deliberately choice of name from this group of donors.
Dare we hope it's from the 37 elite coppers on OG ! 38 counting DCI redwood ex-head in-charge.

by Guest 30.05.15 13:50

What a fantastic surprise when I looked in on the fund earlier. If this doesn't have the MSM tapping away furiously on their keyboards today then something is far wrong. Well done MPS !! clapping

by aiyoyo 30.05.15 14:58

£23,330K ! Nearly there.

by lj 30.05.15 15:25

LeanneBaulch wrote:Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.

Thanks Leanne!

ETA: to clarify it never stopped me from donating: over the years I have made various donations to the pjga site, and have made 3 to the go fund me site. I don't say that to look good, but I know some got the impression I did not and would not.

It would have been good to address all these concerns from the start.