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Post by ufercoffy 25.05.10 7:53

By ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Published: Today






A DRAMATIC sighting of missing Madeleine McCann the day after she vanished is being urgently followed up by private investigators.



A man has reported seeing a girl he is now sure was Maddie lying in the back of a van.

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She was wearing pyjamas identical to the pair Maddie had on when she was abducted.

The vehicle was white - and other witnesses have recalled seeing a white van near the holiday apartment in Portugal from where she was taken.

A child in pyjamas was also seen being carried by a man at the resort.

New witness Carlos Moreira, 65, has told investigators the little girl he saw was with a man and woman who looked like gipsies.

When shown a previously-unpublished e-fit of a suspect, he identified it as being the van's driver.

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A source close to Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry said last night the sighting was "highly significant" and added: "It could be a key breakthrough."

Maddie, of Rothley, Leics, was three when she disappeared on a family holiday in Praia da Luz, on the Algarve, on May 3 2007.

Portuguese Mr Moreira said he only recently connected his sighting with the Maddie hunt because it was 160 miles from where she vanished.

He was driving from Carregado, near Lisbon, to Alentejo on May 4 when he stopped at a snack bar in the Benavente region at 8am.

He told The Sun: "I saw a white van with the back door open. I saw a girl, lying on a pile of clothes in the back. She was wearing a two-piece pyjama set, pink and white, or yellow. I saw her back, I could see her hands and feet.

"She moved one of her fingers but she was deeply asleep. When the van door was opened, she did not wake up, as if she was drugged."

"This girl was blonde and looked around four. A woman came out of the back of the van. I noted that a strong and tall man, wearing a suit, was in front of the snack bar.

"He looked like a gipsy. He was with the woman from the van, he was younger than her. He told her off for leaving the van."

Mr Moreira said the experience stuck in his mind - but he only realised it could be useful when he saw a cop being asked on TV why roads to the north or to Spain were not blocked after Maddie vanished.

He explained: "The road I saw the van on was such a route."

He said the man he saw was clean-shaven, aged 40 to 42, fat but good-looking. The woman was 60 to 65, fat with grey hair.

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "His account is being looked into. He has done the right thing in coming forward."
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Post by justagrannynow 1 25.05.10 10:41

I have to say it seems to take ages for these vital witnesses to put two and two together. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Post by baconbutty 25.05.10 12:10

Swarthy people.
White van.
Late reporting.


Same old recipe.
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Post by justagrannynow 1 25.05.10 12:19

Thanks to almostgothic on Maddie Case Files for finding this.

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The
disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been a big story for a number of
media outlets. Martim Cabral, Deputy News Editor for Portuguese TV
station SIC, gives us his perspective.


The search for Madeleine is one of the biggest manhunts that I can
remember ever having taken place in Portugal.

The sheer number of police officers, detectives and members of other
emergency and rescue services involved has left many people here in
Portugal wondering if the same effort would be made if the victim wasn’t
a foreigner.

The authorities say they treat all cases with the same thoroughness,
whatever the nationality, but the fact is that in the Algarve at the
moment the only thing missing are the armed forces.

Notwithstanding the criticism which has been voiced in the British
media about the search operation, the fact is that Portuguese detectives
have an enviable record in these kinds of cases.

In 2006, 30 children (the majority adolescents) went missing in
Portugal. Twenty-four were recovered. It’s not 100 per cent but it’s not
bad.

The fact is the Portuguese Judiciary Police (Detective Division) has a
very good reputation for thoroughness and an enviable success rate.

As a journalist I too am frustrated by the laws of this country,
which prohibit police officers during an investigation from speaking to
the press.

The reasoning behind the law is legitimate and valid – it aims to
protect the identity of the people being investigated and someone who
could turn out to be innocent from having their names splashed all over
the media and their reputations ruined.

But the fact remains that we live in an era of 24 hours news cycles –
my station (SIC TV) also has a 24 hour news channel like SKY as well as
an Internet site. And these media ‘beasts’ have to be fed regularly.

The answer surely is for the authorities to hold regular briefings
where they can reveal some information without prejudicing the
investigation – especially in a case like this one where there is such
huge international interest. This is what the Portuguese police in the
Algarve are now doing.


Written by Sky News, 09/05/2007

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Comment to above article by one Carlos Moreira.



I would like to say that the Portugal has no longer any
effectively controlled borders with Spain. Our borders are a shame! We
have terrorists, pedophiles, arms and drugs dealers passing through so
easily by the major international motorways, if you Britons could only
witness this shame to our country! Our government must enforce our
borders immediately, but European laws prevents us from doing it.





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Carlos Moreira, Rio Tinto, Portugal
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Could this be the same man? If so, he posted this 5 days after seeing the blonde child in the back of the van and he still didn't make the connection ?

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Post by Judge Mental 25.05.10 12:40

Quite extraordinary. Team McCann must work much harder to find people who have never been connected to the case before. Otherwise they will not gain any credibility with these supposed sightings.
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Post by kangdang 25.05.10 13:58

What a load of B******s
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Post by littlepixie 25.05.10 15:32

If I wasnt convinced before I am now that those churning out these re-hashed stories have only one aim and that is to make money off the back of a little girl.

They are getting very slap-dash at it as well
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Post by justagrannynow 1 28.05.10 18:36

Looks like the private detectives have gone to Portugal

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Maddie 'key' quiz The Sun
(paper edition)


Thursday 27th May 2010

DETECTIVES working for Madeleine McCann's
parents are in Portugal to quiz a "key" witness who has come forward.

Carlos Moreira, 65, told The Sun this week he saw her in a van the day after she vanished.

Maddie, of Rothley, Leics, was three when she disappeared in Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007.

A source close to Kate and Gerry McCann said: "He could prove to be the key we're looking for.

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Post by aiyoyo 29.05.10 4:09

Yeap, a trollop of bull........s

How did the man know what Maddie was wearing?

Did the Mccanns ever confirm Maddie was indeed in pink pyjamas?

He saw the police asking around yet it took he guy nearly 3 years before coming forward?

Oh boy, pigs could fly.
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Post by aiyoyo 29.05.10 4:17

littlepixie wrote:If I wasnt convinced before I am now that those churning out these re-hashed stories have only one aim and that is to make money off the back of a little girl.

They are getting very slap-dash at it as well

You've made valid points.

Regarding the first point :the thing is they still have over 1/2m in the Fund, they just have to scale down the search.

On the second point: Either they are blind by their greeds, or they have a death wish.
OF the latter, maybe the adrenalin push is giving them the high ie tempting fate thinking they will never ever be caught out.... bit like klemptomania...
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Post by justagrannynow 1 30.05.10 6:23

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NEW IMAGE OF MADDIE MCCANN ABDUCTOR

Sunday May 30,2010

By James Murray




THE top investigator working for Kate and Gerry
McCann is considering releasing a new image of the man suspected of
abducting their daughter Madeleine.
Former Detective Inspector Dave Edgar travelled
to Portugal last week to show the e-fit style image to a new witness.
Portuguese Carlos Moreira, 65, has just come forward
to say he saw a girl aged about four lying drowsily on a pile of clothes
in the back of a white van.It happened the day
after Madeleine vanished from her holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on
the Algarve on May 3, 2007.
Mr Moreira has confirmed the image bears a strong resemblance to the driver of the van,
which was parked at a roadside snack bar 160 miles north of the resort.

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Post by aiyoyo 30.05.10 6:50

Another image?

Is this going to be another shim?

Oh boy, what's next?
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Post by Tony Bennett 30.05.10 8:45

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NEW IMAGE OF MADDIE MCCANN ABDUCTOR

Sunday May 30,2010

By James Murray



THE top investigator working for Kate and Gerry McCann is considering releasing a new image of the man suspected of abducting their daughter Madeleine. Former Detective Inspector Dave Edgar travelled to Portugal last week to show the e-fit style image to a new witness.
Well, he's sure it is a man now, eh?

It was at the press conference about the Victoria Beckham lookalike that he said Jane Tanner might have seen a woman.

If we have a new e-fit, I make that No. 15 in a long line of suspects or 'persons of interest' or 'people we wish to eliminate from our enquiry'.

Of which two were women and 13 will have been men.

That must be some kind of record in the annals of criminal history.

Here's another point.

How many of these 15 images come from the police officially investigating this crime, and how many from the public relations staff who are assisting the prime suspects?
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Post by justagrannynow 1 30.05.10 9:03

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I am getting rather confused with all these abductors, but I thought Carlos Moreira had been shown the drawing of Cooperman, the George Harrison lookalike, not Jane Tanners swarthyman.

The thing that annoys me the most about all the sketches of the abductors, and the publicising of the ridiculous sightings such as the half naked man on the French motorway or the Barcelona bar crawling Brit who also took a long time to remember the significance of what he saw, is not so much the feeling that I am assumed to be daft enough to believe this rubbish, but that it is we sceptics who are the ones who are accused of being disrespectful to Madeleine.

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Post by Tony Bennett 30.05.10 10:37

justagrannynow 1 wrote:Hi Tony [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]


I am getting rather confused with all these abductors, but I thought Carlos Moreira had been shown the drawing of Cooperman, the George Harrison lookalike, not Jane Tanners swarthyman.

The thing that annoys me the most about all the sketches of the abductors, and the publicising of the ridiculous sightings such as the half naked man on the French motorway or the Barcelona bar crawling Brit who also took a long time to remember the significance of what he saw, is not so much the feeling that I am assumed to be daft enough to believe this rubbish, but that it is we sceptics who are the ones who are accused of being disrespectful to Madeleine.

JAGN, take heart from this quote from Arthur Schopenhauer, which has proved true countless times in world history:

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Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognised.

In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident.

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Post by Guest 30.05.10 16:05

Let's hope the third stage comes quickly Tony, it is getting more and more ridiculous.
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Post by justagrannynow 1 07.06.10 15:03

Am resurrecting this thread to ask if anybody has seen any news anywhere about this latest sighting ? Any e fit produced ?

It is now two weeks since Dave Edgar was reported to have flown to the Algarve. The information which Carlos Moreira held was said by a source close to the McCanns to be "highly significant" and "a key breakthrough". At least, that's what Ms Lazzeri reported in the OP.

Are we to assume that this sighting has dipped beneath the horizon and joined all the others, or is it just the usual relaxed, laid back method of searching for Madeleine which has typified the private investigation ?

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