Re: Let's Not Forget Brenda

by TheTruthWillOut 30.10.14 22:30

It is possible Tiny, but I wonder whether the woman is a genuine.

Sky would have had a reporting unit in Edinburgh at the time assuming it was recorded in September (for the referendum) and I doubt MB and crew would travel the 400 miles each way to do a few minute interview or be there for the referendum (he is a crime correspondent)

Also, if a court case arises from this ladies "dossier", wouldn't she then be identified anyway?

by TheTruthWillOut 30.10.14 22:40

Here is MB's report:

Note: When the lady is feeding the swans she doesn't have a bracelet on her right wrist but does when she brushes her hair back a bit later in the video. Two different women or going out her way to avoid being identified?

by tiny 30.10.14 22:41

TheTruthWillOut wrote:It is possible Tiny, but I wonder whether the woman is a genuine.

Sky would have had a reporting unit in Edinburgh at the time assuming it was recorded in September (for the referendum) and I doubt MB and crew would travel the 400 miles each way to do a few minute interview or be there for the referendum (he is a crime correspondent)

Also, if a court case arises from this ladies "dossier", wouldn't she then be identified anyway?

if it is not genuine then sky have gone to whole lot of trouble for nowt as some one has found the place where this bit was filmed and who knows a name might be the next on twitter( hopefully) or we might have to await a court case.

by tiny 30.10.14 22:49

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Here is MB's report:

Note: When the lady is feeding the swans she doesn't have a bracelet on her right wrist but does when she brushes her hair back a bit later in the video. Two different women or going out her way to avoid being identified?

yes it does look like 2 different arms,may be there were more than 1 person who handed the dossier in.big woman who ever she is

by **PeterMac** 30.10.14 23:05

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So this mystery anonymous woman can be traced.

by tiny 30.10.14 23:13

That's if she lives there PeterMac and if she does some person might be able too

by **PeterMac** 30.10.14 23:26

tiny wrote:That's if she lives there PeterMac and if she does some person might be able to

Put it out on twitter and see what happens. Apart from the screams from the Pro-Child-Neglect lobby !

We know or reasonably suspect that the McCanns were involved. BHH said so
The swan feeder talks of "we" did this and "We did that", which raises another question, is it Philomena.
We remember the turquoise fleece.
Hair is right, and - forgive me - the calves are right !

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Brunt and Sky are deeply involved
All the pro-child-neglect lobby on Twitter who have recently cleaned their accounts are clearly very concerned
Gamble has recently "un-liked" many of the previous contacts. (or whatever it is called )

And that is just for starters.
A conspiracy to harass ? Which appears to have lead to the death of a woman ?
Hope they are all proud of themselves.
As BS has said recently HATE Becomes them

by tiny 30.10.14 23:35

I was also thinking of Philomena but surely she wouldn't be that vindictive after all her brother and his wife did lie about the so called abduction.

also with jg in the thick of it wouldn't surprise me if it was not one of the extended McCann family

by **PeterMac** 30.10.14 23:40

tiny wrote:I was also thinking of Philomena but surely she wouldn't be that vindictive after all her brother and his wife did lie about the so called abduction.
also with jg in the thick of it wouldn't surprise me if it was not one of the extended McCann family

But have the family come to terms with the fact that the McCanns lied to them all about the shutters, about the window, about the curtains, about their own point of entry to the apartment, and all the rest.
Are they all in denial, or thinking that if they do this thing it will all come to a sudden stop, and they can then all sue anyone in the world who harbours any suspicion, and live in the luxury they experienced in Portugal for all those months, until she had to fly back to Ullapool so she could then go to Turkey . . .

by tiny 30.10.14 23:45

Perhaps who ever the lady is they thought by harassing Brenda and doing the dossier that she would have been made an example by the courts of and every one would all go home
but as that didn't and wont happened this lady is most likely to be pooping her pants at the very thought of being named

by canada12 30.10.14 23:48

I hate to point this out, but in many instances, child abuse runs in families. It's accepted at some point early on, and either covered up or rationalized by one or both parents, and the children of those parents (children who are often the victims) grow up in that culture, and the situation repeats itself as they have children of their own, and find themselves in a relationship with an abuser, or they themselves become abusive because it's all they've ever known.

I'm talking about all kinds of abuse here - emotional, physical, sexual, etc.

But it is possible that abuse and neglect could be rampant in "the family", which includes the extended family. In which case, their acceptance of Kate and Gerry's story becomes understandable.

All in my opinion only.

by Liz Eagles 30.10.14 23:52

In the Sky video Martin Brunt says 'but Sweepyface is not the worst'.

Why didn't Sky doorstep the worst then?

and as an aside....there's a lovely brown Bentley/Rolls Royce passing as Martin Brunt confronts Brenda Leyland.

by The....truth 30.10.14 23:53

@tiny

I am not sure at all that 'the family' that assembled or handed over dossier is at all concerned.

Do they not have immunity.

Seven years this says they do.

by Joss 30.10.14 23:57

canada12 wrote:I hate to point this out, but in many instances, child abuse runs in families. It's accepted at some point early on, and either covered up or rationalized by one or both parents, and the children of those parents (children who are often the victims) grow up in that culture, and the situation repeats itself as they have children of their own, and find themselves in a relationship with an abuser, or they themselves become abusive because it's all they've ever known.

I'm talking about all kinds of abuse here - emotional, physical, sexual, etc.

But it is possible that abuse and neglect could be rampant in "the family", which includes the extended family. In which case, their acceptance of Kate and Gerry's story becomes understandable.

All in my opinion only.

Yes i think that is the vicious cycle of generational abuse from what i have read about it.

by jeanmonroe 31.10.14 0:06

No SHAME!

ANY of them!

"WE want OUR '15 MINUTES' too"!

One day that 'line up' will be walking in a straight line, straight into the back of a black Maria!

by Joss 31.10.14 0:08

PeterMac wrote:
tiny wrote:I was also thinking of Philomena but surely she wouldn't be that vindictive after all her brother and his wife did lie about the so called abduction.
also with jg in the thick of it wouldn't surprise me if it was not one of the extended McCann family
But have the family come to terms with the fact that the McCanns lied to them all about the shutters, about the window, about the curtains, about their own point of entry to the apartment, and all the rest.
Are they all in denial, or thinking that if they do this thing it will all come to a sudden stop, and they can then all sue anyone in the world who harbours any suspicion, and live in the luxury they experienced in Portugal for all those months, until she had to fly back to Ullapool so she could then go to Turkey . . .

I think they are all sticking together on this one for whatever reason?

by Liz Eagles 31.10.14 0:10

Thetruth wrote:@tiny

I am not sure at all that 'the family' that assembled or handed over dossier is at all concerned.

Do they not have immunity.

Seven years this says they do.

It's seven and a half years sad

The annual round of minimal legal requirement of reporting the ~~Fund~~ - Limited Company accounts is due in only a few weeks.

There has been the biggest media campaign I've seen to date:

The Winters and Goose book - where an audience from Redwood was granted to the authors.

The Jim Gamble public support of Winters & Goose and the McCanns.

Serialisation in The Sun of the book.

Targetting of Brenda Leyland by Sky News

OG putting out a hitherto unencountered spectacular run up (there were 2 of them actually) to a production on CrimeWatch and taking it across Europe (apart from Portugal).

OG doing a 'sshhh keep Mum or Portugal will kick us out' then a bucketload of leaks to the press about DNA requests from OG to the PJ.

OG in helicopers with digging equipment, ground penetrating radar and dogs.

Brenda Leyland died because of this campaign and that is my opinion.

by Brian Griffin 31.10.14 0:13

aquila wrote:In the Sky video Martin Brunt says 'but Sweepyface is not the worst'.

Why didn't Sky doorstep the worst then?

Maybe because they hadn't identified the worst. Maybe because the worst is an aggressive chav who would reel off verbal abuse and possibly even become physically violent, as opposed to Brenda, a softly-spoken and polite middle-class lady. Cowards and bullies always pick on the weakest, don't they? Bet you daren't doorstep Danielle La Verite, eh Brunt? You'd leave with your tail between your legs if you take on that feisty lady! Go on - dare you!

In my opinion.

by Joss 31.10.14 0:28

aquila wrote:In the Sky video Martin Brunt says 'but Sweepyface is not the worst'.

Why didn't Sky doorstep the worst then?

and as an aside....there's a lovely brown Bentley/Rolls Royce passing as Martin Brunt confronts Brenda Leyland.

Wow, but as i have said before they knew how to pick their target and why. Picked on Brenda knowingly IMO, and wanted to make an example of her to scare off anyone else they deemed a possible bigger threat, to shut them up. Well that worked out for them, Not! Backfired big time, and now they can all reap what they have sown, and i hope held to account for what happened to Brenda Leyland. They deserve to all be publicly shamed for how this all led to Brenda's death IMO.

by jeanmonroe 31.10.14 0:52

I wonder why Sky News had to 'disguise' ~~Philomena's~~ that lady's 'voice'?

Full of BS 'exposing' so called 'unbelievers' of the McCann 'tale' but no guts to 'expose' herself!

Actually, i'd rather the 'grass' didn't 'expose' herself!

"Quelle surprise"?

er, NON!

by Guest 31.10.14 1:47

aquila wrote:
"Serialisation in The Sun of the book."

Did the Sun actually follow through with the serialisation? I only saw the first one, but can't say I looked for the next.

by Liz Eagles 31.10.14 6:57

dantezebu wrote:aquila wrote:
"Serialisation in The Sun of the book."

Did the Sun actually follow through with the serialisation? I only saw the first one, but can't say I looked for the next.

Now you mention it I don't believe they did. Perhaps because it had a slating or perhaps it achieved its goal of 'bringing out the haters' to take things to the next level of the campaign for Sky News to doorstep Brenda Leyland.

Only my opinion of course - pure speculation.

by **PeterMac** 31.10.14 17:39

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"WE are talking about material which are libellous, completely untrue.
WE were getting nowhere by reporting it to the sites
WE were finding people going on line .. .

Anyone want to Purport anything ?

by tiny 31.10.14 17:57

by unchained melody 31.10.14 18:07

I'd imagine Phil is all over the net pro-trolling

by Snifferdog 31.10.14 18:09

Gosh PeterMac! Isn't it just amazing how two different people can look so similar! As the saying goes, We all have "an identical twin" out there somewhere, and what are the odds of these identical looking persons spin

being in the same close proximity? winkwink

by **PeterMac** 31.10.14 18:12

Oh yes, and where was the website based ?
Who charged £ 37,000 to set it up, instead of the more normal £ 300. Star Pupil Callum ?
Who manages the site
Who is the current webmaster / mistress, whooshing and blocking anything they don't want to see
Who is monitoring Twitter and facebook on their behalf
Who is taking the screen shots
Where is the monitoring Unit based ?

(Just as an aside, who is married to a skilled Photoshopper ? )

by **PeterMac** 31.10.14 18:14

Snifferdog wrote:Gosh PeterMac! Isn't it just amazing how two different people can look so similar! As the saying goes, We all have "an identical twin" out there somewhere, and what are the odds of these identical looking persons being in the same close proximity?

even St Katherine makes the same observation in her autobiography.
" I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts. As a lawyer once said to me, apropos another matter, ‘One coincidence, two coincidences – maybe they’re still coincidences. Any more than that and it stops being coincidence.’"