Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

Usually I cannot play anything BBC here, it worked this time for me. Maybe delete cookies and try again?

Apologies Admin, I opened a new thread on this, please delete, ta.

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

The BBC interviewed Paul Lockman (?) who publishes (on the web?) The Portugal News about the latest "developments" and allowed him, completely uninterrupted, to express a view that, actually, they might not be genuine. IMO this could be very significant - the BBC allowing the official line (irrespective of what they're talking about) to be questioned is almost unprecedented in recent times

AndyB wrote:

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

The BBC interviewed Paul Lockman (?) who publishes (on the web?) The Portugal News about the latest "developments" and allowed him, completely uninterrupted, to express a view that, actually, they might not be genuine. IMO this could be very significant - the BBC allowing the official line (irrespective of what they're talking about) to be questioned is almost unprecedented in recent times

Someone on here said a few weeks ago that there were going to be some members of the British media that were going to break away from the "tried and true" line about the McCanns and go rogue. Can't remember who said it and what thread it was on. But perhaps this is one example...?

AndyB wrote:

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

The BBC interviewed Paul Lockman (?) who publishes (on the web?) The Portugal News about the latest "developments" and allowed him, completely uninterrupted, to express a view that, actually, they might not be genuine. IMO this could be very significant - the BBC allowing the official line (irrespective of what they're talking about) to be questioned is almost unprecedented in recent times

I agree Andy, and it sounded as though the presenter wasn't buying it either.

canada12 wrote:

AndyB wrote:

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

The BBC interviewed Paul Lockman (?) who publishes (on the web?) The Portugal News about the latest "developments" and allowed him, completely uninterrupted, to express a view that, actually, they might not be genuine. IMO this could be very significant - the BBC allowing the official line (irrespective of what they're talking about) to be questioned is almost unprecedented in recent times

Someone on here said a few weeks ago that there were going to be some members of the British media that were going to break away from the "tried and true" line about the McCanns and go rogue. Can't remember who said it and what thread it was on. But perhaps this is one example...?

Yes that came from twitter and I can remember dismissing it at the time as the usual twitter bollocks. But I'm seriously phased by the interview. There was none of the usual sneering condescension from Campbell and it was very notable that there were no interruptions and that he was allowed to speak until he'd finished. Each time he finished speaking there were no responses that were trying to change the narrative. It came across as an honest interview without agenda. WTF?

lj wrote:

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

Usually I cannot play anything BBC here, it worked this time for me. Maybe delete cookies and try again?

The ex-pat British community in Portugal know nothing about these attacks on British children, the newspaper Paul Luckman edits is in the thick of it, and everything 'brit' related goes to himself.  He also said that none of the National newspapers in Portugal have picked the story up - and they have much closer connections to the official Portuguese investigation.  It is 'non' news in Portugal basically, and although he does his best not to say it outright, and kudos to him for that, the clear implication is, the smellyman story is a load of tosh, if not actually made up!

Cristobell wrote:

AndyB wrote:

Jauna Loca wrote:Can't play video here in Ireland. What is being reported?

The BBC interviewed Paul Lockman (?) who publishes (on the web?) The Portugal News about the latest "developments" and allowed him, completely uninterrupted, to express a view that, actually, they might not be genuine. IMO this could be very significant - the BBC allowing the official line (irrespective of what they're talking about) to be questioned is almost unprecedented in recent times

I agree Andy, and it sounded as though the presenter wasn't buying it either.

Yeah, and Nicky Campbell was sat there and even he said nothing

canada12 wrote:

Someone on here said a few weeks ago that there were going to be some members of the British media that were going to break away from the "tried and true" line about the McCanns and go rogue. Can't remember who said it and what thread it was on. But perhaps this is one example...?

petunia wrote:Iwillnotgoaway tweeted 3hrs ago that Journalists and a newspaper are going to break ranks and run a story before the 7th anniversary or words to that affect.

Petunia posted this on Cristobell's blog thread on 22 April.

@IWILLNOTGOAWAY is a very prolific tweeter. She thinks a journalist and his/her paper are set to print next week. Her tweets concerning this are from 3 days ago, 22 April.

I don't do Twitter but I know that IWILLNOTGOAWAY is Deborah Butler.

maebee wrote:I don't do Twitter but I know that IWILLNOTGOAWAY is Deborah Butler.

Sorry, don't understand the implication.

Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.   

Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.

Dee Coy wrote:

Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.

I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

Nina wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:

Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.

I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

I haven't been able to play it either, Nina.  

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.

Dee Coy wrote:

Nina wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:

Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.

I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

I haven't been able to play it either, Nina.  

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.

Hopefully this link will work. It is only available for a few more days though.

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It's on YouTube

Maybe SY and AR need to get them on Portuguese soil to arrest them 
And are using the various lines of enquiry as bait to get them there

I have just listened , the line that stood out was that the PJ gave a power point presentation to the McCann's re the progress of the case . It sounds to me like they are all working together to find a solution that will best fit the Mc's  thesis . Notice how Nicky Campbell did not present that piece , he is Gerry's biggest fan .

PPS if a paper does go out on a limb [ as alluded too . i will guess its the Mail,  [ not the sun ] The Mirror  / Star / still selling too much hard copy , the Mail with its online sales is more likely .[ The Times as a second choice ] . but as usual nobody has a clue .

My attempt at a transcript

"
Rachel=British police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann say they are looking at 18 break ins into villas on the Algarve by a lone intruder.




6 have come to light since an appeal last month, with 5 involving an alleged sexual assaults against young British girls.




Paul Luckman is the publisher of the english newspaper the Portugal News and has followed this whole story and the whole investigation over the past few years very closely.




Morning Paul. So do you thing the Met Police are genuinely onto something new here?




PL – Em, I think I Have to question it. the Met. We have certainly heard nothing of these cases and anything involving foreigners comes pretty quickly to our ears. Its inevitable we are the largest English paper in Portugal you get to hear about these things. Em I noticed locally, certainly nationally, none of the national papers have picked up on this story and they have extremely good police contacts here. I don't think anybody here is taking this seriously and you really begin to wonder er I wonder after all the money that the Met have spent on this case if they're not looking to almost justify, I think we're looking what £7 million at the minute, on the investigation.




Rachel – Yeah , just be clear you're saying that you doubt the reports of these break ins, or..just the fact that they might be connected in some way to the Madeleine McCann disappearance.




PL – D'you know I am not in the position to, to say that definitely. But there have been no reports on this. Em at anytime I have found this extremely strange. I have searched through all our archives. Nothing has come to our ears or been reported.




Rachel – What about this assault on a 10 year old girl back in 2005 in Praia Da Luz. Now that's only recent that information & we don't know why it's only come to light recently. There are all sorts of … potential explanations. It could be that the child herself didn't report it at the time, They have to look closely at something like that don't they.




PL – Well the police will look closely and I think that the attitude, certainly the comments that I heard yesterday I believe eh will do little to create good relations between the English police and the Portuguese Police who are trying very hard to get this resolved. They have reopened the case




Rachel (interrupts) – are they cooperating with the Met?




PL – Yes, totally em this, this suggestion that they're not. I read headlines in the UK this morning arrests imminent … complete nonsense em the, the Met cannot make and I am sure they're not even claiming, they can't come into Portugal to make arrests mm you'll remember we had a situation like this 2, 3 months ago where there was mass coverage and they were arriving to make arrests and it just petered into nothing, there was nothing it was just a regular visit. Em we had a situation where er the Met stated that the police, the Portuguese police had not told them about a Cape Verdian who apparently was accused of three rapes of children and yet we had it directly from the police that in fact they had briefed the Met and the McCanns 6 months earlier in Lisbon even with a power point presentation on this case so these things don't do an awful lot to help relations and uh lets see what happens. Uh as I say I am very surprised there is no coverage at all not from any of the major dailies here in Portugal this morning and they are extroadinarly well connected much so than us ourselves of course. Just no mention at all.

Rachel – (interrupts) as you say we'll wait to see what happens. Thank you very much Paul, nice to talk to you. "

Note the bit in BOLD

Thank you Gillyspot!

I haven't been able to play it either, Nina.  

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.

DeeCoy - iirc the map thingy on this site says you are in Merseyside/Northwest? I am too. I 've been trying since early evening to get it to play. Too close to home?

IF there are NO 'arrests' by DCI Redwood and the Met (at the third time of saying there will be!) what THEN?

The boy who cried 'wolf' will become the man who cried 'wolf'?

Dee Coy wrote:

petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.   

The McCanns will throw anyone under the bus if it suits them, even eachother.

We need an award system here.

I'd like to recommend Paul Luckman for the

Madeleine Medal of Honour.

lj wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:

petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.   

The McCanns will throw anyone under the bus if it suits them, even eachother.

Mr & Mrs Signature song?   Look out granny McCann!

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closely followed by 'You've Lost that Loving Feeling'

Ye Canna Shove yer Granny

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O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus, O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus, O ye canna shove yer Granny 'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer ither Granny 'Cos she's yer Daddy's Mammy Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus. Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie affa bus. Uncle Wullie's like yer Faither A harum-scarum blether, Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus. Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus. Ye can shove Auntie Maggie aff a bus. Auntie Meg's yer Faither's sister, She's naethin' but a twister, Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus. But ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus . O ye canna shove yer Granny, 'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy, O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. Singing I will if you will so will I  Singing I will if you will so will I  Singing I will if you will I will if you will  Singing I will if you will so will I

I'm afraid anyone that believes the British media are going to break 'ranks' needs to be evaluated and scheduled.

The media, politicians and the Met are all involved upto their necks in this 'affair'

Watching wrote:

lj wrote:

Dee Coy wrote:

petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.   

The McCanns will throw anyone under the bus if it suits them, even eachother.

Mr & Mrs Signature song?   Look out granny McCann!

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closely followed by 'You've Lost that Loving Feeling'

Ye Canna Shove yer Granny

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Traditional

O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus, O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus, O ye canna shove yer Granny 'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer ither Granny 'Cos she's yer Daddy's Mammy Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus. Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie affa bus. Uncle Wullie's like yer Faither A harum-scarum blether, Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus. Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus. Ye can shove Auntie Maggie aff a bus. Auntie Meg's yer Faither's sister, She's naethin' but a twister, Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus. But ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus . O ye canna shove yer Granny, 'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy, O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. Singing I will if you will so will I  Singing I will if you will so will I  Singing I will if you will I will if you will  Singing I will if you will so will I

Have you seen the face on granny mccann?Kate must have thrown her under a bus and she got steamrolled.