Re: Bizarre text messages from Stephen Birch to Tony Bennett 5, 6 & 10 Dec 2013

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 10:28

Like someone else we know - SB's spelling is not good - he has admitted as much himself.

by **Tony Bennett** 06.12.13 10:34

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Tony, I do think he has a point about his mobile number being here - I'll be happy if that's removed.

Other than that, I don't somehow think you'll worry about his threats.

I agree, Peter, "elimination" is a strange word to use for someone as sure of his "facts" as he is.

MESSAGE to Stephen Birch - as I know you read here:

I have asked admin to remove your telephone number from the OP on this thread and they have now done so.

I'm not spending money on texting you back in South Africa. So here's my final message to you:

Please do us all a favour and admit that you and your machine are fake. Withdraw your fantasies about Madeleine's body being under the Murat driveway from YouTube. Ask 'People's Voice' to remove that broadcast of you. And tell Chris Spivey that he is wrong about you too. And then go and do something useful with your life - Tony Bennett

by Guest 06.12.13 10:39

Thank you Admin for removing the mobile number.

I do think that, just to close the matter once and for all, the drive should be dug up.

Then, when nothing other than a dead dog is discovered, we can move on!

by jeanmonroe 06.12.13 10:47

Is Birch accusing R Murat/mother of being 'involved' in Madeleine's 'disappearance' and 'concealment' of a cadavar, under their private driveway, then?

IF he is saying that surely R Murat/mother HAVE to sue him.

IF he is saying that the 'body' is under their driveway, totally without their knowledge, WHO does he say put it there, and WHEN and HOW does he say it got there?

If it's 'there'.

by Guest 06.12.13 10:49

As far as I know, I don't think he has ever stated who he thinks was responsible, other than it wasn't the McCanns.

by **Nina** 06.12.13 10:52

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:As far as I know, I don't think he has ever stated who he thinks was responsible, other than it wasn't the McCanns.

He did mention it was someone with a damaged wrist if I remember correctly.

by aiyoyo 06.12.13 10:53

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Thank you Admin for removing the mobile number.

I do think that, just to close the matter once and for all, the drive should be dug up.

Then, when nothing other than a dead dog is discovered, we can move on!

Tze Tze Tze..Maybe you should write to Redwood with your proposal........?

SB wrote to the Police and got no reaction.......can you guess at the reason Police ignored him?

by ultimaThule 06.12.13 10:55

PeterMac wrote:Have I misunderstood, or did he say the drive needs to be ELIMINATED.
I though he knew, knew, she was there.
That is not ELIMINATION. That is discovery.
Elimination implies that you are getting rid of all the possibilities, until you are left with only one.

If digging up 2 square metres of Murat's driveway in Portugal fails to uncover Madeleine's remains, by my reckoning there'll only be another 92,389 or so sq km to eliminate.

Fortunately, there is a fund devoted to leaving no stone unturned that SB can apply to in order to meet the cost of the necessary excavations which should keep him too busy to text meaningless threats.to others.

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 10:59

by jeanmonroe 06.12.13 11:28

Nina wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:As far as I know, I don't think he has ever stated who he thinks was responsible, other than it wasn't the McCanns.
He did mention it was someone with a damaged wrist if I remember correctly.

http://tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63051

All 'about' the 'damaged' wrist.........or not!

JT/R O'B 'rogs'

by Liz Eagles 06.12.13 11:37

A little ditty - wot I made up just moments ago

The man from the Cape said 'let's go'
Straight to Portugal?
No, no, no, no,
Via London you see, to get lawyers for me
and some scanning equipment ho ho.

Well off to UK Capeman flew
So determined was he that he knew
That this case could be solved
If he was involved
And the PJ were without a clue

His team were in awe of their chief
They agreed with their master's belief
So whilst waiting around before scanning the ground
Surveillance was part of their brief

'We'll meet up in that garden in Luz'
'When Murat's dogs are taking a snooze'
'Trespassing don't matter, just don't make a clatter'
'We will find her, we've nothing to lose'

Now Capeman flew back to the Cape
He took to the net and went ape
His ramblings became famous
Some came from his anus
And on youtube he now has a tape

Poor old Capeman's a humourless fellow
Whose behaviour is not very mellow
He will triumph he says (well one of these days)
And his threats he is given to bellow

Capeman's findings are wrapped up in science
And he's proud of this special appliance
Just don't dare doubt his word or he'll give you the bird
You must treat him with total compliance

If you think Capeman's a loon
'Cos you're able to eat with a spoon
Just don't let it show, he won't have it you know
And expect insults to come very soon.

by **Nina** 06.12.13 11:42

jeanmonroe wrote:
Nina wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:As far as I know, I don't think he has ever stated who he thinks was responsible, other than it wasn't the McCanns.
He did mention it was someone with a damaged wrist if I remember correctly.
http://tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63051

All 'about' the 'damaged' wrist.........or not!

JT/R O'B 'rogs'

Thank you jeanmonroe roses

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 11:43

Very good haha! I shall put music to that Aquila.

by Guest 06.12.13 11:45

well done Aquila for your little ditty.

Talking out of your rear end and being abusive to anyone who doesn't believe you - yep, SB is a McCann supporter, no doubt about that.

by ultimaThule 06.12.13 11:53

Brilliant, aquila clapping

If we set your ditty to music violin

and form a band - the Forumettes? - we can put it on youtube in time to become a Christmas no.1 cheerleader

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 11:56

Re: Questions to Mr Stephen Birch
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jozi on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:38 pm

aquila wrote:
littlepixie wrote:I agree with the previous two posts. More and more I am beginning to think the McCs have a hand in this. If the focus is shifted back on Murat (but not . . . because Mr Birch "knows" the Murats know nothing about it) then its shifted away from them in the Publics mind. Bow shots fired, screws turned and all ready for the libel trials.

Anyone who has not followed this case will just hear the soundbites - Body - Murat - Garden.

If Maddie was my child and I was innocent, I would be placating Mrs Murat and digging up her drive at the same time if I thought my long lost childs body was there.

Winnie Johnsons family/friends have been digging for years.
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littlepixie...your post says it all.

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Agree with your post aquilla,poor Winnie Johnson has campaigned for years to find where her son is buried I think that is normal.

The above is so true. Can't bump it up as has been locked, so copy and paste.[/font][/color]

by Liz Eagles 06.12.13 12:25

Snifferdog wrote:

Re: Questions to Mr Stephen Birch
jozi on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:38 pm

aquila wrote:

littlepixie wrote:I agree with the previous two posts. More and more I am beginning to think the McCs have a hand in this. If the focus is shifted back on Murat (but not . . . because Mr Birch "knows" the Murats know nothing about it) then its shifted away from them in the Publics mind. Bow shots fired, screws turned and all ready for the libel trials.

Anyone who has not followed this case will just hear the soundbites - Body - Murat - Garden.

If Maddie was my child and I was innocent, I would be placating Mrs Murat and digging up her drive at the same time if I thought my long lost childs body was there.

Winnie Johnsons family/friends have been digging for years.

littlepixie...your post says it all.

Leaving no stone unturned isn't exactly doing what it says on the box.

Agree with your post aquilla,poor Winnie Johnson has campaigned for years to find where her son is buried I think that is normal.

The above is so true. Can't bump it up as has been locked, so copy and paste.

Hi Snifferdog,

It was littlepixie's post. I was just agreeing with it.

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 12:27

Another one of SB's beauties. Thought I would post it here lest we forget.

Re: Could Maddie be in the garden of Casa Liliana?
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candyfloss on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:46 am

This just posted on twitter off his facebook page......

Bizarre text messages from Stephen Birch to Tony Bennett 5, 6 & 10 Dec 2013 - Page 3 Proxy

Bizarre text messages from Stephen Birch to Tony Bennett 5, 6 & 10 Dec 2013 - Page 3 Proxy

What the hell, this is the person who came on here and accused Mr Amaral of planting DNA, then tried to backpeddle.

by MRNOODLES 06.12.13 12:46

How do any of us know if Birch is not just Murat's puppet. And it's all a big con so Murat can get his garden dug over? laugh

by jeanmonroe 06.12.13 13:03

This guy's theory is not for me,
Cos i've always thought, a Birch was a tree.

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 13:07

Birds of a feather roosting in the Birch.

by Pershing36 06.12.13 14:04

He seems more like a plant than ever now.

by Deadlego 06.12.13 15:21

ultimaThule wrote: Deadlego - there's so many threads and some move at such a pace it's easy to overlook what may be an important piece of info.

My introduction to twitter has been via this site and, while I have no intention of signing up in order to participate in the proceedings, i've been pleasantly surprised at what can be gleaned from the social and otherwise brief communications of others and I'm pleased to see a few of the threads here are dedicated to keeping a finger on the pulse of the McCanns, so to speak.

Ultima! I agree twitter can be very interesting. But I have seen a lot of celebrity gossip blogs(yes I know embarrassing!) that take something that someone random says on twitter and posts it as if it's confirmed news!!! I will be looking at the twitter threads on here now though as this site is something completely different and the more that I think about it an investigation can find leads in all sorts of places, so thank you for that and for your warm welcome.

by Deadlego 06.12.13 15:25

Daisy wrote:
Deadlego wrote:
Daisy wrote:
Deadlego wrote:Not wanting to upset anyone with my third post but isn't a text message a bit more purposeful than a tweet and therefore obviously a reaction to something?
For sure Deadlego, Aquila did say...

Quote: "ETA: I've put this in the wrong thread."

And we just agreed with the sentiments.
Sorry about that I'm kind of new here and not used to posting on forums as haven't for many years, and missed that totally! I also agree with the sentiments regarding twitter posts- I've seen whole blogs based on twitter posts and find that a little strange!

Thanks Daisy
No need for apologies, I was just trying to answer your question, no one's expected to keep up with all posts I'm sure. Big welcome btw

Thank you Daisy! I do still feel a little disorientated here! And thank you for the big welcome thanks

by Snifferdog 06.12.13 15:36

Pershing36 wrote:He seems more like a plant than ever now.

If we could but dig around the roots to see whats feeding it. I wonder whose idea it was to plant it?

by ProfessorPPlum 06.12.13 16:50

Stephen Birch (assuming that is THE Stephen Birch): if you don't want your phone number put on a forum like this then don't text your nonsense to a prominent figure on a major...er...forum. And if you don't like the fact that nobody believes your nonsense, don't threaten them because it will also end up in the public domain.

The behaviour claimed for 'Stephen Birch' doesn't make sense to me. This kind of out-of-control (and entirely pointless) communication just doesn't fit with spending a claimed $80k and two years of your life....it's counter-productive. The tone of these texts don't even fit with the way Birch talks on video.

I can't judge Tony's evidence for this being Stephen Birch. All I know is that Stephen Birch's claims don't seem credible and it wouldn't surprise me to find others making mischief while claiming to be Stephen Birch.

by Guest 06.12.13 16:57

I know what you mean PPP. When SB first appeared on this forum, it was very hard to believe that, with his juvenile behaviour, he could be the same person claiming to be a successful businessman.

He did then post a comment when asked on his YouTube account to confirm that he was the person who was posting here.

So it does appear to be the same person.

Perhaps Tony will give us his opinion as to whether the person he has spoken to on the phone sounds the same as the one in the various interviews.

by Guest 06.12.13 17:29

ProfessorPPlum wrote:Stephen Birch (assuming that is THE Stephen Birch): if you don't want your phone number put on a forum like this then don't text your nonsense to a prominent figure on a major...er...forum. And if you don't like the fact that nobody believes your nonsense, don't threaten them because it will also end up in the public domain.

The behaviour claimed for 'Stephen Birch' doesn't make sense to me. This kind of out-of-control (and entirely pointless) communication just doesn't fit with spending a claimed $80k and two years of your life....it's counter-productive. The tone of these texts don't even fit with the way Birch talks on video.

I can't judge Tony's evidence for this being Stephen Birch. All I know is that Stephen Birch's claims don't seem credible and it wouldn't surprise me to find others making mischief while claiming to be Stephen Birch.

Isn't he supposed to be a property developer?

You didn't need to be brain of Britain (or indeed South Africa) to make a bit of cash out of that in the last decade. In fact a kind of thuggish ignorance almost seemed an asset that enabled some to prosper.

Having said that, I still think he could be on the level about some things.

by **Tony Bennett** 06.12.13 17:42

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I know what you mean PPP. When SB first appeared on this forum, it was very hard to believe that, with his juvenile behaviour, he could be the same person claiming to be a successful businessman.

He did then post a comment when asked on his YouTube account to confirm that he was the person who was posting here.

So it does appear to be the same person.

Perhaps Tony will give us his opinion as to whether the person he has spoken to on the phone sounds the same as the one in the various interviews.

I must say I'm more than a tad disappointed not to be believed when I say that I have been speaking to the real Stephen D Birch.

As if someone with a South African accent would deliberately ring up from a South African 'phone number and pretend to be him (?).

There are so many ways I knew he was indeed Stephen Birch. He came up with the same bonkers ideas as he's been promoting - which I politely challenged. He's rung me up on several occasions. On one occasion he said he was appearing on some obscure TV programme somewhere and he pumped me for the best part of an hour about the facts of this case. He wanted to be sure of them before going on air.

Anyway, I have reported most of my conversations with him to Mods & Admin on the forum, here for example is my messgae to them on 12 April this year. I'll try to find some of the others when I have a moment:

Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:23 pm

I had a telephone call from Stephen Birch this evening.

He began by asking me if I had ever been to South Africa and said 'You must come, it's a beautiful country'.

He was mainly interested in asking me some questions about the DNA aspects of the Maddie case and about the history of Clarence Mitchell's involvement.

He persists with his theory that Madeleine lies buried in the grounds of Casa Liliana and says that the three who dug Madeleine's grave there were Russell O'Brien, Robert Murat and Michael James Sperry, possibly with help from Stephen Carpenter.

He still persists in saying that the police, with the knowledge of Dr Goncalo Amaral, planted cadaver scent and fluids in the hired car.

When this deception by the Portuguese Police is finally revealed, he says, it 'will blow the whole case wide open'.

He also says that he has talked to journalists in Portugal who have tipped him off that Michaela Walczuk is a gold-digger who is spending all Murat's libel winnings. He says it was she who demanded the world-wide cruise.

There was a bit more, but those are the highlights

by Guest 06.12.13 17:47

I wasn't doubting you Tony. I was just trying to give Stephen Birch the slightest benefit of the doubt that he couldn't really be as bad as he appeared to be here.

I'd change my phone number if he started ringing me!

Anyway, it looks as if he's given up on you now for which I'm sure you're grateful.