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D.I. Mick Graham of Leics Police currently heads the Madeleine McCann investigation
Just passing this on FWIW.
I spoke to Leicestershire Police this morning, their number is 0116 222 2222 BTW.
I said I had some information relating to disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
They told me that the normal procedure for this type of 'phone call is for the person taking the call on 222 2222 to make a note of the information and it will be passed on to the Investigation Team.
In enquiring further into who was the current 'Senior Investigating Officer' in the case, I was informed that this was Detective Inspector Mick Graham.
Observation: That's a low rank for an active investigation into the world's most famous-ever missing child.
I spoke to Leicestershire Police this morning, their number is 0116 222 2222 BTW.
I said I had some information relating to disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
They told me that the normal procedure for this type of 'phone call is for the person taking the call on 222 2222 to make a note of the information and it will be passed on to the Investigation Team.
In enquiring further into who was the current 'Senior Investigating Officer' in the case, I was informed that this was Detective Inspector Mick Graham.
Observation: That's a low rank for an active investigation into the world's most famous-ever missing child.
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Did you really have some information to pass them or were you just trying to get the name of the senior investigating officer?
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I am writing them a letter but can't say anything about it. It's not something to get hugely excited about but obviously does concern the Madeleine McCann investigation.ufercoffy wrote:Did you really have some information to pass them or were you just trying to get the name of the senior investigating officer?
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Nothing to get "hugely excited" about?
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Presumably the same D.I. Mick Graham who sent these letters?
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Table of Contents : Processo Vol 16...(Pages PDF 208-212)....Pages 4339 to 4343—"Letter from Home Office re rogatory request with report"
Processo Vol 16....Page 4339 (Page 1 of 5)
Home Office
UK Central Authority
5th Floor, Fry Building, 2 Marsham Street, London, SW1P 4DF
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Our Reference : MLI/07/210/2104
Your Reference : Po no 176/2008, Lo CIMP
16th May 2008
Joana G. Ferreira
Procuradoria-Geral Da Republica
Gabinete Do Procurador-Geral
Rua Da Escola Politecnica no 140
1269-269 Lisboa
SENT VIA DHL
Dear Sir/Madam
RE : LETTERS OF REQUEST FOR LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN THE MATTER OF
MADELEINE MCCANN.
Further to our letter of 9th May 2008, please find enclosed further evidence that we received from Leicestershire Police into the requested assistance.
If you need to use the evidence for any other proceedings, which are not outlined in the original request, you must seek the Authorisation of the UK Central Authority in advance the material being used for those proceedings.
Thank you.
Yours faithfully
(signed)
Mrs Nash
UKCA
Home Office
For and on Behalf of the Secretary of State
Page 4340 (Page 2 of 5)
From : D/Insp. Mick Graham
Dept : Major Crime Unit
To : Frances Kennah UKCA
Date : 9th May 2008
Subject : Madeleine McCann (Operation Task)
This report is the second response to the requests contained within the International Letters of Request submitted by the Portuguese Authorities in respect of the Investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. This second submission of documents comprises of a total of 25 witness statements, 26 DVD's, 26 transcripts, 21 exhibits and 1 report.
First Letter of Request - 23rd January 2008.
1. Page 12 (PJ Ref I) Interview of David PAYNE - he was interviewed on 11th April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a copy of his witness statement and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview. See also a copy of his exhibits :
DP/100 - Hand sketch of apartment block at Ocean Club.
DP/101 - Hand sketch of Floor Plan at David Payne's Apartment at Ocean Club.
2. Page 17 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Fiona PAYNE - she was interviewed 0n 10th April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a copy of her 2 witness statements and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview. See also a copy of her exhibits :
FP/100 - Plan of the Tapas Bar table at the Ocean Club.
FP/101 - Rough plan of their apartment.
FP/102 - Rough plan of their apartment in relation to other members of the group.
Page 4341 (Page 3 of 5)
3. Page 20 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Dianne WEBSTER - she was interviewed on DVD on 11th April 2008, and the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 2 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 2 transcripts, a copy of her witness statement and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview.
4. Page 23 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Russell James O'BRIEN - he was interviewed on 8th April 2008, and 10th April 2008. The interview of 10th April 2008, was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 4 DVD's, 1 copy of
each of the 4 transcripts, a copy of his 3 witness statements including a statement regarding his evidence given on 8th April 2008, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interviews.
Please see a copy of DC Giere's exhibit :
AJG/207 - 'Apt Plan shown during I/V'.
Please see a copy of each of Mr O'Brien's 4 exhibits :
RJO/100 - Sketch Map - Praia Da Luz.
RJO/101 - Table Plan - Tapas Restaurant.
RJO/102 - Search Sketch - Praia Da Luz.
RJO/103 - Phone List.
5. Page 27 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Jane Michelle TANNER - she was interviewed on 8th April 2008, and the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 7 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 7 transcripts, a copy of her
statement, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing her interview. See also a copy of her 2 exhibits :
JT/1 - Map of Tapas Bar/Apartments etc.
JT/2 - Marked copy of DM/2.
6. Page 33 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Matthew David OLDFIELD - he was interviewed on 9th April 2008, and the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, a copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a copy of his witness statement, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview. See also a copy of his exhibit :
MO/1 - DM/2 showing route of Matthew OLDFIELD from Tapas to Apartment.
7. Page 37 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Rachael Mariamma Jean MAMPILLY - she was interviewed on 9th April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, a copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a
copy of her 2 witness statements, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing her interview. See also a copy of her 4 exhibits :
RMJM/100 - Table Plan - Tapas Restaurant.
RMJM/101 - Sketch Map - Praia Da Luz.
RMJM/102 - Sketch of Car Park.
RMJM/103 - Phone List.
Page 4342 (Page 4 of 5)
8. Page 44 (PJ Ref VI) Interview of Michael WRIGHT - he was interviewed on 1st May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
9. Page 45 (PJRef VI) Interview of Kenneth Arthur WALKDEN - he was interviewed on 29th April 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
10. Page 56 (PJ Ref XV) Interview of Carole Anne TRAMMER - she was interviewed on 22nd April 2008. The interview was recorded on DVD. Please see the copy of her DVD, 1 copy of the transcript, a copy of her witness statement, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing her interview. See also a copy of her 3 exhibits :
CT/10 - Plan of block of apartments at Ocean Club.
CT/11 - Plan of the Ocean Club in Praia Da Luz.
CT/12 - Photo taken on Balcony of Apt 5G on Sunday 29th April 2007.
11. Page 57 (PJ RefXVII) Request to provide Madeleine McCann's dental records. A copy of the dental records was obtained on 15th May 2008, and is enclosed. A statement producing these as an exhibit is also enclosed.
12. Page 57 (PJ Ref XVIII) - CONFIDENTIAL - Request for copies of examination completed by the Forensic Science Service). Enclosed within a sealed envelope are 1 examination report and 2 statements from the Forensic Science Service. These have been sealed to maintain the integrity of the information. CONFIDENTIAL.
Page 4343 (Page 5 of 5)
From Second Letter of Request, received by UKCA 4th February 2008.
13. Page 20. Interview of Michelle THOMPSON - she was interviewed on 7th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
14. Page 20. Interview of Emma KNIGHTS - she was interviewed on 30th April 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
15. Page 21. Interview of Amanda COXON - she was interviewed on 2nd May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
16. Page 22. Interview of Linda Ruth McQUEEN - she was interviewed on 7th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
17. Page 22. Interview of Nicky GUI (Nicky Toni GILL) - she was interviewed on 7th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
18. Page 22. Interview of Justine McGUINNESS - she was interviewed on 12th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
19. Page 23. Interview of Peter Neal PATTERSON - he was interviewed on 8th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
Respectfully submitted for your attention and consideration.
(signed)
Mick Graham
Detective Inspector
A total of : -
25 statements
26 DVD's
26 Transcripts
21 exhibits
1 report
- supplied to UKCA on 16th May 2008.
Delivered by (name) signed A M Smith DC 1239
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Table of Contents : Processo Vol 16...(Pages PDF 208-212)....Pages 4339 to 4343—"Letter from Home Office re rogatory request with report"
Processo Vol 16....Page 4339 (Page 1 of 5)
Home Office
UK Central Authority
5th Floor, Fry Building, 2 Marsham Street, London, SW1P 4DF
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Our Reference : MLI/07/210/2104
Your Reference : Po no 176/2008, Lo CIMP
16th May 2008
Joana G. Ferreira
Procuradoria-Geral Da Republica
Gabinete Do Procurador-Geral
Rua Da Escola Politecnica no 140
1269-269 Lisboa
SENT VIA DHL
Dear Sir/Madam
RE : LETTERS OF REQUEST FOR LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN THE MATTER OF
MADELEINE MCCANN.
Further to our letter of 9th May 2008, please find enclosed further evidence that we received from Leicestershire Police into the requested assistance.
If you need to use the evidence for any other proceedings, which are not outlined in the original request, you must seek the Authorisation of the UK Central Authority in advance the material being used for those proceedings.
Thank you.
Yours faithfully
(signed)
Mrs Nash
UKCA
Home Office
For and on Behalf of the Secretary of State
Page 4340 (Page 2 of 5)
From : D/Insp. Mick Graham
Dept : Major Crime Unit
To : Frances Kennah UKCA
Date : 9th May 2008
Subject : Madeleine McCann (Operation Task)
This report is the second response to the requests contained within the International Letters of Request submitted by the Portuguese Authorities in respect of the Investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. This second submission of documents comprises of a total of 25 witness statements, 26 DVD's, 26 transcripts, 21 exhibits and 1 report.
First Letter of Request - 23rd January 2008.
1. Page 12 (PJ Ref I) Interview of David PAYNE - he was interviewed on 11th April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a copy of his witness statement and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview. See also a copy of his exhibits :
DP/100 - Hand sketch of apartment block at Ocean Club.
DP/101 - Hand sketch of Floor Plan at David Payne's Apartment at Ocean Club.
2. Page 17 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Fiona PAYNE - she was interviewed 0n 10th April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a copy of her 2 witness statements and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview. See also a copy of her exhibits :
FP/100 - Plan of the Tapas Bar table at the Ocean Club.
FP/101 - Rough plan of their apartment.
FP/102 - Rough plan of their apartment in relation to other members of the group.
Page 4341 (Page 3 of 5)
3. Page 20 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Dianne WEBSTER - she was interviewed on DVD on 11th April 2008, and the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 2 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 2 transcripts, a copy of her witness statement and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview.
4. Page 23 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Russell James O'BRIEN - he was interviewed on 8th April 2008, and 10th April 2008. The interview of 10th April 2008, was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 4 DVD's, 1 copy of
each of the 4 transcripts, a copy of his 3 witness statements including a statement regarding his evidence given on 8th April 2008, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interviews.
Please see a copy of DC Giere's exhibit :
AJG/207 - 'Apt Plan shown during I/V'.
Please see a copy of each of Mr O'Brien's 4 exhibits :
RJO/100 - Sketch Map - Praia Da Luz.
RJO/101 - Table Plan - Tapas Restaurant.
RJO/102 - Search Sketch - Praia Da Luz.
RJO/103 - Phone List.
5. Page 27 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Jane Michelle TANNER - she was interviewed on 8th April 2008, and the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 7 DVD's, 1 copy of each of the 7 transcripts, a copy of her
statement, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing her interview. See also a copy of her 2 exhibits :
JT/1 - Map of Tapas Bar/Apartments etc.
JT/2 - Marked copy of DM/2.
6. Page 33 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Matthew David OLDFIELD - he was interviewed on 9th April 2008, and the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, a copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a copy of his witness statement, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing the interview. See also a copy of his exhibit :
MO/1 - DM/2 showing route of Matthew OLDFIELD from Tapas to Apartment.
7. Page 37 (PJ Ref I) Interview of Rachael Mariamma Jean MAMPILLY - she was interviewed on 9th April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD. Please see enclosed 1 copy of each of the 3 DVD's, a copy of each of the 3 transcripts, a
copy of her 2 witness statements, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing her interview. See also a copy of her 4 exhibits :
RMJM/100 - Table Plan - Tapas Restaurant.
RMJM/101 - Sketch Map - Praia Da Luz.
RMJM/102 - Sketch of Car Park.
RMJM/103 - Phone List.
Page 4342 (Page 4 of 5)
8. Page 44 (PJ Ref VI) Interview of Michael WRIGHT - he was interviewed on 1st May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
9. Page 45 (PJRef VI) Interview of Kenneth Arthur WALKDEN - he was interviewed on 29th April 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
10. Page 56 (PJ Ref XV) Interview of Carole Anne TRAMMER - she was interviewed on 22nd April 2008. The interview was recorded on DVD. Please see the copy of her DVD, 1 copy of the transcript, a copy of her witness statement, and a copy of the Detective's statement evidencing her interview. See also a copy of her 3 exhibits :
CT/10 - Plan of block of apartments at Ocean Club.
CT/11 - Plan of the Ocean Club in Praia Da Luz.
CT/12 - Photo taken on Balcony of Apt 5G on Sunday 29th April 2007.
11. Page 57 (PJ RefXVII) Request to provide Madeleine McCann's dental records. A copy of the dental records was obtained on 15th May 2008, and is enclosed. A statement producing these as an exhibit is also enclosed.
12. Page 57 (PJ Ref XVIII) - CONFIDENTIAL - Request for copies of examination completed by the Forensic Science Service). Enclosed within a sealed envelope are 1 examination report and 2 statements from the Forensic Science Service. These have been sealed to maintain the integrity of the information. CONFIDENTIAL.
Page 4343 (Page 5 of 5)
From Second Letter of Request, received by UKCA 4th February 2008.
13. Page 20. Interview of Michelle THOMPSON - she was interviewed on 7th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
14. Page 20. Interview of Emma KNIGHTS - she was interviewed on 30th April 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
15. Page 21. Interview of Amanda COXON - she was interviewed on 2nd May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
16. Page 22. Interview of Linda Ruth McQUEEN - she was interviewed on 7th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
17. Page 22. Interview of Nicky GUI (Nicky Toni GILL) - she was interviewed on 7th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
18. Page 22. Interview of Justine McGUINNESS - she was interviewed on 12th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
19. Page 23. Interview of Peter Neal PATTERSON - he was interviewed on 8th May 2008, and a statement obtained, please see enclosed copy.
Respectfully submitted for your attention and consideration.
(signed)
Mick Graham
Detective Inspector
A total of : -
25 statements
26 DVD's
26 Transcripts
21 exhibits
1 report
- supplied to UKCA on 16th May 2008.
Delivered by (name) signed A M Smith DC 1239
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You might need to reduce your caffeine intake. Try camomile tea instead.ufercoffy wrote:Nothing to get "hugely excited" about? It doesn't take much for me to get a teensy weensy bit excited - just the fact that you're writing to the Leicester plods has got my mind racing!
Do we know anything about 'Mick Graham' by the way?
There is still an investigation into the internationally-renowned disappearance of a 3-year-old British girl which is apparently being led by this humble 'D.I.' from Leics Constabulary.
Has no-one made him up to 'D.C.I.' yet?
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In all seriousness, that is a conclusion that cannot be drawn, 'Ruby'.Ruby wrote:Obv not a freemason yet [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
It is a documented fact, revealed by former Freemasons, that within police forces, those who have higher rank in the Freemasons [there being 33 degrees altogether] can pull rank and give orders to those who are above them in the police hierarchy.
Disturbing, but true.
The Freemasons are still, especially in the police forces of this country, much much stronger than people realise.
Please observe the paragraphs I've highlighted in red this 2008 Daily Telegrpah report on the [still unresolved] Daniel Morgan case:
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Six arrested over private eye murder in 1987
Six men including a former police detective have been arrested over the axe murder of a private eye 21 years ago.
By Nick Allen
Published: 12:33AM BST 22 Apr 2008
[Daniel Morgan Photo: PA]
Private investigator Daniel Morgan, 37, was found with an axe embedded in his head in a pub car park in Sydenham, south London.
The unsolved case has hung over Scotland Yard ever since amid suggestions that Mr Morgan was about to expose a drugs network involving corrupt police officers. One of those held on suspicion of murder is Jonathan Rees, 53, Mr Morgan’s business partner in Southern Investigations.
The pair were drinking together in the Golden Lion pub half an hour before the body of Mr Morgan, a father of two, was found outside the pub.
Also arrested was Sid Fillery, 61, a former detective sergeant at Scotland Yard, who was involved in the orginal investigation into the murder. Mr Fillery later went to work at Southern Investigations.
There have been five inquiries into Mr Morgan’s murder and the latest, code named Operation Abeleard, was conducted from a secret location outside Scotland Yard.
The arrests followed evidence from “super-grasses” at least one of whom is now under police protection.
Builder James Cook, 53, Glenn Vian, 49, and his brother and Garry Vian, 47, have also been arrested on suspicion of murder.
The sixth man, a serving police constable, was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in a public office. He is accused of leaking information.
His arrest was not connected to the murder but to recent events linked to the other five arrests.
At the request of Mr Morgan’s family officers involved in the latest investigation were required to declare that they were not Freemasons.
His brother Alastair Morgan said: “This is a major step forward after a long, frustrating battle to find out who killed Daniel. I am excited at the developments but there’s a long way to go and nobody has yet been charged. The last 21 years of our lives have been completely over-shadowed by my brother’s murder.”
Mr Morgan was killed by four blows from a Chinese-made axe. His £900 Rolex watch was missing but the £1,100 cash he was carrying was still in his pocket.
Scotland Yard Assistant Commissioner John Yates, who is in overall charge of the investigation, said: “Since that tragic event there have been numerous investigations into his death, none of which have been able to establish who was responsible.
“The current investigation has shown that there are still people out there who have highly pertinent evidence about this case.”
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Email sent to Ricardo Paiva from Graham Michael - Leicester Police
19 March 2008 16:39
(processo/16 – VOLUME XVIa.pdf P84, 85 )
Vol. XVI p. 4214
Dear Ricardo,
I refer to our recent telephone call conversations and can confirm that we will starting the interview process w/c 7th April 2008. I hope the e-mail sent on Thursday 13th March helps with your arrangements for your accommodation.
I am in receipt of your e-mail regarding further questions for John Lowe at the FSS and I will forward them for him to answer.
As discussed on Friday, we have made contact with the holiday group ( Paynes, Webster, O’Brien, Tanner, Oldfield, Manpilly ) regarding their availability for the proposed dates for a re-enactment in Portugal. We are still awaiting response from Jeremy Wilkins.
Before they will fully commit to attending they have the following questions that they reguest are answered:-
1 – Why do the PJ want them to take part in the re-enactment?
2 – What is the aim, what are the PJ trying to achieve with the re-enactment?
3 – Why so close to the anniversary?
4 – Why don’t the PJ use actors?
5 – Will the footage of the re-enactment be released to the press/TV etc?
6 – What protection is there for the friends in relation to the media coverage/likely frenzy?
Would you please speak with the Director regarding these questions and consider how you would like us to respond. I would be grateful for a prompt response as this will hopefully ensure that the witnesses are available to attend.
Yours Sincerely
Mick Graham
Detective Inspector
Major Crime Unit
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Email sent from Ricardo Paiva to Graham Michael / Stuart Prior
20 March 2008 11:56
(processo/16 – VOLUME XVIa.pdf P86,87 )
Vol. XVI p. 4216 and 4219 (4217 is the same, in Portugese)
Hello good morning Mick.
In answer to the questions raised by the holiday group regarding the re-enactment in Praia da Luz, Mr Paulo Rebelo wishes to clarify them as follows:
1 – Why do the PJ want them to take part in the re-enactment?
The PJ wants them to take partin the re-enactment because they were the ones who experienced the situation. Therefore they are in the best conditions to reproduce it.
2 – What is the aim, what are the PJ trying to achieve with the re-enactment?
The PJ is trying to find out, with accuracy, the circunstances of the events occurred, using for that purpose the exact place of events and the same persons who took part in it.
3 – Why so close to the anniversary?
Only now has the PJ contitions to carry out these procedings, and also because it is desirable that the weather conditions are as similar as possible to those at the time of the events.
4 – Why don’t the PJ use actors?
The reason is because only the persons involved can clarify, with accuracy and at the same place, their position and movements.
5 – Will the footageof the re-enactment be released to the press/TV etc?
The PJ won’t release any pictures/footage to the press.
6 – What protection is there for the friends in relation to the media coverage/like frenzy?
The place will be isolated and press interference will be avoided to its maximum.
The re-enactment will be carried out in one single day, at the exact time the events occurred.
However, the witnesses are requested to stay in Portugal for a couple of days more, in order to allow the production of all the material which shall be analysed, checked and signed by the persons involved.
Best regards.
Ricardo Paiva
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Email sent to Ricardo Paiva from Graham Michael / cc. Stuart Prior, Gary Watts, Nigel Baraclough
28 March 2008 16:33
(processo/16 – VOLUME XVIa.pdf P89 )
Vol XVI p. 4218
Dear Ricardo,
An update for you, as discussed this morning;
We have spoken on a number of ocasions with the holiday group and they are still undecided whether they will agree to attend Portugal to take part in this process.
As a group, they are waiting to see if Gerry and Kate McCann will be invited to attend and participate in the re-enactment. It is my understanding that if Gerry and Kate do not participate in this process, then the decision will be that they will not attend.
In addition, the group have stated that they would require written reassurances about how the process was going to be conducted before agreeing to attend.
Therefore, until these issues are resolved we are unable to get a firm commitment from the holiday group to attend on either of the proposed dates.
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Email sent to Ricardo Paiva from Graham Michael - Leicester Police
19 March 2008 16:39
(processo/16 – VOLUME XVIa.pdf P84, 85 )
Vol. XVI p. 4214
Dear Ricardo,
I refer to our recent telephone call conversations and can confirm that we will starting the interview process w/c 7th April 2008. I hope the e-mail sent on Thursday 13th March helps with your arrangements for your accommodation.
I am in receipt of your e-mail regarding further questions for John Lowe at the FSS and I will forward them for him to answer.
As discussed on Friday, we have made contact with the holiday group ( Paynes, Webster, O’Brien, Tanner, Oldfield, Manpilly ) regarding their availability for the proposed dates for a re-enactment in Portugal. We are still awaiting response from Jeremy Wilkins.
Before they will fully commit to attending they have the following questions that they reguest are answered:-
1 – Why do the PJ want them to take part in the re-enactment?
2 – What is the aim, what are the PJ trying to achieve with the re-enactment?
3 – Why so close to the anniversary?
4 – Why don’t the PJ use actors?
5 – Will the footage of the re-enactment be released to the press/TV etc?
6 – What protection is there for the friends in relation to the media coverage/likely frenzy?
Would you please speak with the Director regarding these questions and consider how you would like us to respond. I would be grateful for a prompt response as this will hopefully ensure that the witnesses are available to attend.
Yours Sincerely
Mick Graham
Detective Inspector
Major Crime Unit
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Email sent from Ricardo Paiva to Graham Michael / Stuart Prior
20 March 2008 11:56
(processo/16 – VOLUME XVIa.pdf P86,87 )
Vol. XVI p. 4216 and 4219 (4217 is the same, in Portugese)
Hello good morning Mick.
In answer to the questions raised by the holiday group regarding the re-enactment in Praia da Luz, Mr Paulo Rebelo wishes to clarify them as follows:
1 – Why do the PJ want them to take part in the re-enactment?
The PJ wants them to take partin the re-enactment because they were the ones who experienced the situation. Therefore they are in the best conditions to reproduce it.
2 – What is the aim, what are the PJ trying to achieve with the re-enactment?
The PJ is trying to find out, with accuracy, the circunstances of the events occurred, using for that purpose the exact place of events and the same persons who took part in it.
3 – Why so close to the anniversary?
Only now has the PJ contitions to carry out these procedings, and also because it is desirable that the weather conditions are as similar as possible to those at the time of the events.
4 – Why don’t the PJ use actors?
The reason is because only the persons involved can clarify, with accuracy and at the same place, their position and movements.
5 – Will the footageof the re-enactment be released to the press/TV etc?
The PJ won’t release any pictures/footage to the press.
6 – What protection is there for the friends in relation to the media coverage/like frenzy?
The place will be isolated and press interference will be avoided to its maximum.
The re-enactment will be carried out in one single day, at the exact time the events occurred.
However, the witnesses are requested to stay in Portugal for a couple of days more, in order to allow the production of all the material which shall be analysed, checked and signed by the persons involved.
Best regards.
Ricardo Paiva
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Email sent to Ricardo Paiva from Graham Michael / cc. Stuart Prior, Gary Watts, Nigel Baraclough
28 March 2008 16:33
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Vol XVI p. 4218
Dear Ricardo,
An update for you, as discussed this morning;
We have spoken on a number of ocasions with the holiday group and they are still undecided whether they will agree to attend Portugal to take part in this process.
As a group, they are waiting to see if Gerry and Kate McCann will be invited to attend and participate in the re-enactment. It is my understanding that if Gerry and Kate do not participate in this process, then the decision will be that they will not attend.
In addition, the group have stated that they would require written reassurances about how the process was going to be conducted before agreeing to attend.
Therefore, until these issues are resolved we are unable to get a firm commitment from the holiday group to attend on either of the proposed dates.
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Thank you Jill .It just goes to show how much this lot were really interested in helping to find Madeleine. They should have moved heaven and earth to help with the enquiry. Being worried about a"media frenzy" is just jaw dropping. All about them. This makes my blood boil. How dare the "pro's" accuse Tony and the "anti's" of not wanting Madeleine found, when the very people that could have shed some light on the investigation didn't want to attend. A reconstruction could have thrown up some new lines of enquiry, enacting the situation may sometimes make someone remember something they had omitted. How could actors know exactly what they did that night. The interviews they gave are impossible to follow, and vary so much, having all the people together, acting it out, and discussing would undoubtedly been of great help. Perhaps if someone has got to hand the replies the Tapas 7 gave, for their not attending should be posted again, for anyone new to this forum to read them.
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Response from Fiona and David Payne:
"Following great consideration, we regret to inform you that we do not wish to attend the proposed re-enactment in Portugal."
Dear Stuart.
Apologies for the late reply.
We gather now that at least Jez Wilkins, Matt and Rach and Dave/Fi are not going/able to make the re-enactment. Given the prosecutor's requirement for all to be in attendance or none at all, and the absolute nature of the planned date, the decision appears to be academic ...
I hope you are well.
Best wishes,
Russel & Jane
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"Following great consideration, we regret to inform you that we do not wish to attend the proposed re-enactment in Portugal."
Dear Stuart.
Apologies for the late reply.
We gather now that at least Jez Wilkins, Matt and Rach and Dave/Fi are not going/able to make the re-enactment. Given the prosecutor's requirement for all to be in attendance or none at all, and the absolute nature of the planned date, the decision appears to be academic ...
I hope you are well.
Best wishes,
Russel & Jane
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This with thanks to the mccannfiles
The Archiving of the Madeleine Process: Section E
The Archiving of the Madeleine Process: Section E Joana Morais blogspot
By Astro
21 July 2009
E – About the interest of the reconstruction
Taking into account that there were certain points in the arguidos' and witnesses' statements that revealed, apparently at least, contradiction or that lacked physical confirmation, it was decided to carry out the "reconstruction of the fact", a diligence that is consecrated in article 150 of the Penal Process Code in the sense of duly clarifying, on the very location of the facts, the following very important details, among others:
1 – The physical, real and effective proximity between Jane Tanner, Gerald McCann and Jeremy Wilkins, at the moment when the first person walked by them, and which coincided with the sighting of the supposed suspect, carrying a child. It results, in our perspective, strange that neither Gerald McCann nor Jeremy Wilkins saw her, or the alleged abductor, despite the exiguity of the space and the peacefulness of the area;
2 – The situation concerning the window to the bedroom where Madeleine slept, together with the twins, which was open, according to Kate. It seemed then necessary to clarify if there was a draught, since movement of the curtains and pressure under the bedroom door are mentioned, which, eventually, could be verified through the reconstitution;
3 – The establishment of a timeline and of a line of effective checking on the minors that were left alone in the apartments, given that, if it is believed that such checking was as tight as the witnesses and the arguidos describe it, it would be, at least, very difficult to reunite conditions for the introduction of an abductor in the residence and the posterior exit of said abductor, with the child, namely through a window with scarce space. It is added that the supposed abductor could only pass, through that window, holding the minor in a different position (vertical) from the one that witness JANE TANNER saw (horizontal);
4 – What happened during the time lapse between approximately 6.45/7 p.m. – the time at which MADELEINE was seen for the last time, in her apartment, by a different person (David Payne) from her parents or siblings – and the time at which the disappearance is reported by Kate Healy – at around 10 p.m.;
5 – The obvious and well-known advantages of immediate appreciation of evidence, or in other words, the fulfilment of the principle of contiguity of evidence in order to form a conviction, as firm as possible, about what was seen by Jane Tanner and the other interposers, and, eventually, to dismiss once and for all any doubts that may subsist concerning the innocence of the missing [child's] parents.
In this sense, the legal procedures were followed, according to the norms and conventions that are in force, and the appearance of the witnesses was requested, inviting them to be present inclusively appealing to solidarity with the McCann couple, as it is certain that since the beginning they adhered to that process diligence.
Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.
We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.
in: Processo 201/07.0 GALGS - Volume XVII - pages 4636-4638 (Public Prosecutor's Archiving Dispatch)
The Archiving of the Madeleine Process: Section E
The Archiving of the Madeleine Process: Section E Joana Morais blogspot
By Astro
21 July 2009
E – About the interest of the reconstruction
Taking into account that there were certain points in the arguidos' and witnesses' statements that revealed, apparently at least, contradiction or that lacked physical confirmation, it was decided to carry out the "reconstruction of the fact", a diligence that is consecrated in article 150 of the Penal Process Code in the sense of duly clarifying, on the very location of the facts, the following very important details, among others:
1 – The physical, real and effective proximity between Jane Tanner, Gerald McCann and Jeremy Wilkins, at the moment when the first person walked by them, and which coincided with the sighting of the supposed suspect, carrying a child. It results, in our perspective, strange that neither Gerald McCann nor Jeremy Wilkins saw her, or the alleged abductor, despite the exiguity of the space and the peacefulness of the area;
2 – The situation concerning the window to the bedroom where Madeleine slept, together with the twins, which was open, according to Kate. It seemed then necessary to clarify if there was a draught, since movement of the curtains and pressure under the bedroom door are mentioned, which, eventually, could be verified through the reconstitution;
3 – The establishment of a timeline and of a line of effective checking on the minors that were left alone in the apartments, given that, if it is believed that such checking was as tight as the witnesses and the arguidos describe it, it would be, at least, very difficult to reunite conditions for the introduction of an abductor in the residence and the posterior exit of said abductor, with the child, namely through a window with scarce space. It is added that the supposed abductor could only pass, through that window, holding the minor in a different position (vertical) from the one that witness JANE TANNER saw (horizontal);
4 – What happened during the time lapse between approximately 6.45/7 p.m. – the time at which MADELEINE was seen for the last time, in her apartment, by a different person (David Payne) from her parents or siblings – and the time at which the disappearance is reported by Kate Healy – at around 10 p.m.;
5 – The obvious and well-known advantages of immediate appreciation of evidence, or in other words, the fulfilment of the principle of contiguity of evidence in order to form a conviction, as firm as possible, about what was seen by Jane Tanner and the other interposers, and, eventually, to dismiss once and for all any doubts that may subsist concerning the innocence of the missing [child's] parents.
In this sense, the legal procedures were followed, according to the norms and conventions that are in force, and the appearance of the witnesses was requested, inviting them to be present inclusively appealing to solidarity with the McCann couple, as it is certain that since the beginning they adhered to that process diligence.
Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.
We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.
in: Processo 201/07.0 GALGS - Volume XVII - pages 4636-4638 (Public Prosecutor's Archiving Dispatch)
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From MCF
Table of Contents : Processo Vol 16..(PDF page 214)....Page 4345—"Letter from Matthew Oldfield indicating he will not attend 2008.05.23"
Vol 16 Page 4345 (Page 1 of 1)
2x Suxxxxxxxx Gaxxxxx
London
SW xx 8xx
Date 23rd May 2008
Maria Luisa Nascimento Duarte
Ministério Público de Portimão
Av. Miguel Bombarda
Palácio da Justiça
no 2 Piso
8501-960 Portimão
Reference : 3951283
Dear Sir,
I write with reference to the Notification dated 9th May 2008, which I received on Saturday 17th may 2008.
I am hereby informing you that I will not be attending the proposed Reconstruction in Portugal on 29th and 30th May 2008. I have reached this decision after considering advice from our Lawyers.
Yours faithfully,
Matthew David Oldfield
Why would you need to take advice from lawyers , if it were me, I would just rush off there and do anything to help
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What were they scared of? is the big question.
Or - Do the McCanns have some kind of control over their group of 'friends'?
Edit - Could it be as simple as them not wanting an official record made of them neglecting young children/babies?
Or - Do the McCanns have some kind of control over their group of 'friends'?
Edit - Could it be as simple as them not wanting an official record made of them neglecting young children/babies?
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listener wrote:What were they scared of? is the big question.
Or - Do the McCanns have some kind of control over their group of 'friends'?
Edit - Could it be as simple as them not wanting an official record made of them neglecting young children/babies?
I would love these e-mails to be in the public domain then people would see for themselves how little the McCanns and their friends did to assist the PJ in their investigations
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I am sure we could put together a little (downloadable) article on our website to include these e-mails which also, 'Autumn', expose the extremely chummy and cosy relationship between 'Stu' Prior and the 'Tapas 9'. But not of course before we've brightened those 'Irish Eyes' with our demolition job on the Chinagirl 'rebuttal'Autumn wrote:listener wrote:What were they scared of? is the big question.
Or - Do the McCanns have some kind of control over their group of 'friends'?
Edit - Could it be as simple as them not wanting an official record made of them neglecting young children/babies?
I would love these e-mails to be in the public domain then people would see for themselves how little the McCanns and their friends did to assist the PJ in their investigations...
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Tony Bennett wrote:I am sure we could put together a little (downloadable) article on our website to include these e-mails which also, 'Autumn', expose the extremely chummy and cosy relationship between 'Stu' Prior and the 'Tapas 9'. But not of course before we've brightened those 'Irish Eyes' with our demolition job on the Chinagirl 'rebuttal'Autumn wrote:listener wrote:What were they scared of? is the big question.
Or - Do the McCanns have some kind of control over their group of 'friends'?
Edit - Could it be as simple as them not wanting an official record made of them neglecting young children/babies?
I would love these e-mails to be in the public domain then people would see for themselves how little the McCanns and their friends did to assist the PJ in their investigations...
Or will it be 'tears before bedtime'??
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