Re: "The Failed Investigation of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann' - YouTube video by US station LipTV - Dr Graham Hill talks utter balderdash on the case for 4 solid minutes

by whatsupdoc 03.07.15 10:25

jeanmonroe... I don't think Sonia knows anyone so big and important who's name would shock us if revealed. Vera said a similar thing back in 2007.

I think she would have been "relocated" by now if that were the case.

Trying to make a docu and get it passed to broadcast in the UK is wishful thinking. I think she should have gone elsewhere and released it months ago.

I've wished her well with the docu but there's brick walls and brick walls.

PS Probably wandering off post now.

by snook 03.07.15 12:57

Hi Sallypelt. You may not find the company listed because that is a trading name. You can buy off the shelf limited companies to set up a business then use your own trading name. It is cheaper than starting from scratch!

by Liz Eagles 03.07.15 13:04

snook wrote:Hi Sallypelt. You may not find the company listed because that is a trading name. You can buy off the shelf limited companies to set up a business then use your own trading name. It is cheaper than starting from scratch!

When a local authority such as Thurrock Council offer training and led by key speakers from two different companies with ex employees of CEOP there must be some sort of audit trail as to whom Thurrock made their cheques payable.

Are these companies registered?

I can't find them registered.

by Guest 03.07.15 13:15

I searched for KLIK yesterday and found nothing apart from what Aquila has posted.

by sallypelt 03.07.15 13:29

Ladyinred wrote:I searched for KLIK yesterday and found nothing apart from what Aquila has posted.

[size=32]KLIK[/size]

Business Name:KLIK
Time in Business:4 Years
Current Status:NORMAL
Registered Address:CO. DONEGA

http://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Business/Klik-442336

Dr Hill is a Criminologist, he is also a retired UK senior police officer and former head of Behaviour Analysis at the Child Exploitation Online Protection centre (CEOP) in London. His research interests include the behaviour of male and female child sex offenders, interviewing child sex offenders and male non-familial child abduction/murder.

Experience

2011–present

Independent Criminal Behaviour Analysis Consultant, KLIK Protective Services

1985–2011

Police Officer , Surrey Police

2000–2011

Senior Investigating Officer, Surrey Police

2007–2011

Head of Behaviour Analysis, Child Exploitation Online Protection centre (CEOP)

But, as mentioned in an earlier post, I have no idea if these two KLIK's are one and the same. However, again, as I've stated earlier, they were both created in 2011

by Guest 03.07.15 23:28

snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

Thank you snook for posting the full interview, far more informative and interesting to me that the Wayback Machine saga. Mainly because I don't understand the subject but also because it doesn't seem to be leading anywhere constructive. At least the video is there in front on you in glorious technicolour and can't be in any way disputed.

Can't comment much at present - got steam coming out of the ear'oles. Suffice to say he sounds as if he's got Redwood's right hand up one side and Gamble's left hand up the other side of his rear quarters. If anyone out there has doubts about there being a cover-up by the establishment just watch this!

by Guest 03.07.15 23:42

snook wrote:Here is the full, nearly 40 minute interview. Please note the McCanns are SOPHISTICATED PROFESSIONALS and this explains their behaviour. They are completely innocent, it was all the fault of those sardine munching Portuguese !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMlJqx1-4s&app=desktop

.... and articulate? So following his line of logic if you are a professional in any field who works under extreme pressure, your reaction to the disappearance of your young child is not the same as it would be for a non-professional? Arrogant git!

He reiterates the time worn trash about the PJ failing to eliminate the McCanns at the very beginning but likewise fails to acknowledge the fact that the PJ were prevented from effectively investigating the child's disappearance because of foreign interference.

by Rogue-a-Tory 03.07.15 23:58

He talks about the first few hours & days being so vital in a disappearance case towards the success of the investigation.

Clearly the Mcs handlers new that golden rule & did everything within their powers to screw that period up for the PJ & GA. Still, they were professional enough detectives to work through the BS & smokescreens, sadly they couldn't head off the political juggernaut that hit them once they'd achieved that breakthrough.

by Guest 04.07.15 0:25

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:He talks about the first few hours & days being so vital in a disappearance case towards the success of the investigation.

Clearly the Mcs handlers new that golden rule & did everything within their powers to screw that period up for the PJ & GA. Still, they were professional enough detectives to work through the BS & smokescreens, sadly they couldn't head off the political juggernaut that hit them once they'd achieved that breakthrough.

Quite so!

It's an insult to ones intelligence for a prig such as he to stand before the world spouting theories without any foundation whatsoever. If looking to pull the wool over the public eye, you would think all those so called professionals grouped together could come up with something more convincing than a feeble explanation based on the McCanns fabrication.

by snook 04.07.15 1:26

Most welcome Verdi. I nicked it from a FB page where I too was too angry to say much.
It Beggars belief that these people can say all this with with a straight face. I know we all need to make a living but my conscience wouldn't let me behave in this deceitful way no matter what the price tag. It does however tell us the calibre of these fine men out there protecting our children from predators ( especially those armed with a cloak of invisibility) . Any for money springs to mind. Egos stroking egos whilst trying to frighten us with tales of lurking bogeymen .
A few weeks back I read that 700k men were viewing child pornography in the UK. When the relevant bodies and police were asked where this figure came from no one would or could answer. The journalist who wrote such rot slammed the phone down when asked his source but not before he told the enquirer to 'google it' Turns out it was from the US, nothing to do with UK .All good though. Justifies keeping these experts in work guarding innocents with their qualifications no doubt invented by the self same.

by jeanmonroe 04.07.15 12:27

snook wrote:Most welcome Verdi. I nicked it from a FB page where I too was too angry to say much.
It Beggars belief that these people can say all this with with a straight face. I know we all need to make a living but my conscience wouldn't let me behave in this deceitful way no matter what the price tag. It does however tell us the calibre of these fine men out there protecting our children from predators ( especially those armed with a cloak of invisibility) . Any for money springs to mind. Egos stroking egos whilst trying to frighten us with tales of lurking bogeymen .
A few weeks back I read that 700k men were viewing child pornography in the UK. When the relevant bodies and police were asked where this figure came from no one would or could answer. The journalist who wrote such rot slammed the phone down when asked his source but not before he told the enquirer to 'google it' Turns out it was from the US, nothing to do with UK .All good though. Justifies keeping these experts in work guarding innocents with their qualifications no doubt invented by the self same.

KLIK

Business Name:KLIK
Time in Business:4 Years
Current Status:NORMAL
Registered Address:CO. DONEGAL

The good 'ol County DONEGAL 'connection'.......AGAIN?

by Guest 04.07.15 23:26

jeanmonroe wrote:
snook wrote:Most welcome Verdi. I nicked it from a FB page where I too was too angry to say much.
It Beggars belief that these people can say all this with with a straight face. I know we all need to make a living but my conscience wouldn't let me behave in this deceitful way no matter what the price tag. It does however tell us the calibre of these fine men out there protecting our children from predators ( especially those armed with a cloak of invisibility) . Any for money springs to mind. Egos stroking egos whilst trying to frighten us with tales of lurking bogeymen .
A few weeks back I read that 700k men were viewing child pornography in the UK. When the relevant bodies and police were asked where this figure came from no one would or could answer. The journalist who wrote such rot slammed the phone down when asked his source but not before he told the enquirer to 'google it' Turns out it was from the US, nothing to do with UK .All good though. Justifies keeping these experts in work guarding innocents with their qualifications no doubt invented by the self same.

KLIK

Business Name:KLIK
Time in Business:4 Years
Current Status:NORMAL
Registered Address:CO. DONEGAL

The good 'ol County DONEGAL 'connection'.......AGAIN?

All roads lead to Rome..

by Liz Eagles 05.07.15 7:14

Verdi wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:
snook wrote:Most welcome Verdi. I nicked it from a FB page where I too was too angry to say much.
It Beggars belief that these people can say all this with with a straight face. I know we all need to make a living but my conscience wouldn't let me behave in this deceitful way no matter what the price tag. It does however tell us the calibre of these fine men out there protecting our children from predators ( especially those armed with a cloak of invisibility) . Any for money springs to mind. Egos stroking egos whilst trying to frighten us with tales of lurking bogeymen .
A few weeks back I read that 700k men were viewing child pornography in the UK. When the relevant bodies and police were asked where this figure came from no one would or could answer. The journalist who wrote such rot slammed the phone down when asked his source but not before he told the enquirer to 'google it' Turns out it was from the US, nothing to do with UK .All good though. Justifies keeping these experts in work guarding innocents with their qualifications no doubt invented by the self same.

KLIK

Business Name:KLIK
Time in Business:4 Years
Current Status:NORMAL
Registered Address:CO. DONEGAL

The good 'ol County DONEGAL 'connection'.......AGAIN?
All roads lead to Rome..

Is there a reference/link to verify KLIK as being the correct company i.e. KLIK Protective Services?

I can't help but wonder if Jim Gamble's company INEQE, with its base of 'associates' and no visible employees has ever used KLIK Protective Services.

It's shadow boxing isn't it!

by Amy Dean 05.07.15 7:38

I'm not sure if this qualification checks out. I can't find the course on the website of either Lancaster University or the University of Central Lancashire. Perhaps it's been discontinued?

2010
Lancashire University, Post Graduate Certificate in Forensic Behavioural Psychology

by Guest 05.07.15 7:54

There is a forensic psychology research group at the University of Central Lancashire.

by whatsupdoc 05.07.15 9:33

Priceless moments from the McCann saga...

C-R lady lawyer: blah blah blah abduction...

Judge: What proof do you have it was an abduction?

C-R lady lawyer: Because the McCanns told me , Your Honour.

So, did Dr. Hill know the McCanns were sophisticated and articulate coz the McCanns told him? That's a lot of time studying to state something on TV without any independent witnesses. I can't believe he came to that conclusion when he met them or saw their videos.

I also thought that the rogs from the rest of the tapas doctor group were confused and wooly and just as inarticulate os Kate...not surprising when they weren't sure what to say i.e. what the arranged story was to be.

by Richard IV 05.07.15 11:45

Ineqe isn`t JG`s company - he`s just the CEO of one branch.

Oddly the Ineqe website has bits missing today. Yesterday it showed all their advisors including Miriam Rich (who previously worked for CEOP) - now it says you have to make contact with them for info on their advisors.

It seems there is a small gang of these proMcs all backing each other up JG, MW-T, Martin Brunt, Miriam Rich, Joe Sullivan, Summers & Swan and this Graham Hill guy.

M.Rich (previously known as M.A. Rosenthal married David A Rich in 2001). She seems to now have a company called Rich Communications Ltd in Woking. She backed MB when Brenda died and is a ProMc. I`ve copied her Linkedin profile before that`s changed as well.

"

Summary

I am a public relations specialist with over fifteen years’ experience of media relations, reputation management and campaign handling in both the public and commercial sectors.

I’ve spent most of my career working in high-profile law enforcement agencies dealing with the biggest issues affecting policing, public safety and security, child protection, hate crime and counter-terrorism, alongside training colleagues to deliver effective media interviews.

I have worked on some of the most significant incidents of recent times, including the murder of Soham schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence and the Paddington Rail Crash. I have had incredible opportunities to meet and learn from the very best people along the way.

Founding Rich Communications has enabled me to unleash my passion for getting exposure for new products, stories and campaigns onto the unsuspecting commercial world! I love nothing more than to get to the heart of what a business is trying to achieve and then sharing their good news with those who need to hear it. Clients I’ve worked with/am working with include those from the technology, child protection, education, charity, faith group and film production worlds – a very diverse collection with one thing in common: they know I don’t stop until I achieve what they're after.

Alongside my PR work, I deliver media, crisis management and safeguarding training to individuals and groups. Five years spent with the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) Centre has enabled me to focus on professionals within education and childcare settings but I have trained professionals from schools, charities, faith groups and elsewhere.

I’m always happy to have an informal, no commitment chat about what you need, so please feel free to get in touch."

ATP - Found a short version of the section removed from INEQE site listing some of the advisors.

https://www.aihitdata.com/company/00ABC7C0/INEQE/people

by tinkier 05.07.15 12:08

Richard IV wrote:Ineqe isn`t JG`s company - he`s just the CEO of one branch.

Oddly the Ineqe website has bits missing today. Yesterday it showed all their advisors including Miriam Rich (who previously worked for CEOP) - now it says you have to make contact with them for info on their advisors.

It seems there is a small gang of these proMcs all backing each other up JG, MW-T, Martin Brunt, Miriam Rich, Joe Sullivan, Summers & Swan and this Graham Hill guy.

M.Rich (previously known as M.A. Rosenthal married David A Rich in 2001). She seems to now have a company called Rich Communications Ltd in Woking. She backed MB when Brenda died and is a ProMc. I`ve copied her Linkedin profile before that`s changed as well.

"

Summary

I am a public relations specialist with over fifteen years’ experience of media relations, reputation management and campaign handling in both the public and commercial sectors.

I’ve spent most of my career working in high-profile law enforcement agencies dealing with the biggest issues affecting policing, public safety and security, child protection, hate crime and counter-terrorism, alongside training colleagues to deliver effective media interviews.

I have worked on some of the most significant incidents of recent times, including the murder of Soham schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence and the Paddington Rail Crash. I have had incredible opportunities to meet and learn from the very best people along the way.

Founding Rich Communications has enabled me to unleash my passion for getting exposure for new products, stories and campaigns onto the unsuspecting commercial world! I love nothing more than to get to the heart of what a business is trying to achieve and then sharing their good news with those who need to hear it. Clients I’ve worked with/am working with include those from the technology, child protection, education, charity, faith group and film production worlds – a very diverse collection with one thing in common: they know I don’t stop until I achieve what they're after.

Alongside my PR work, I deliver media, crisis management and safeguarding training to individuals and groups. Five years spent with the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) Centre has enabled me to focus on professionals within education and childcare settings but I have trained professionals from schools, charities, faith groups and elsewhere.

I’m always happy to have an informal, no commitment chat about what you need, so please feel free to get in touch."

ATP - Found a short version of the section removed from INEQE site listing some of the advisors.

https://www.aihitdata.com/company/00ABC7C0/INEQE/people

How is it possible to have so many self serving prats, I mean experts in one place. Like attracts like!

by Grande Finale 10.07.15 2:43

Tracy Edwards recommends:

Miriam Rich

http://www.tracyedwards.com/miriam.html

Miriam Rich was a founding member of staff at the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) Centre, where she advised the Chief Executive on reputational issues and led on media relations relating to all aspects of child protection. Miriam also trained CEOP´s staff - drawn from a wide range of policing and social work backgrounds - in interview delivery.

by Grande Finale 10.07.15 2:49

http://www.richcommunications.co.uk/Testimonials.html

Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent, Sky News
I’'ve worked with Miriam in her various roles over many years and have always found her a delight to deal with. She understands what I need and does her best to provide it, whether it’s video, stills, an interview, information or, simply, advice and background briefing

Dr Joe Sullivan, Director of Behavioural Analysis and Forensic Psychology, Mentor Forensic Services Ltd
"We are delighted we have brought Miriam on board to advise us on how to handle media enquiries and to guide us on appropriate and effective PR strategies. We really feel she has understood the needs of our business and translated these into an efficient and focused plan that is helping us to grow. Our company profile has risen and diversified due to the well placed media exposure Miriam has arranged on our behalf and in turn our client base has increased.

One of the crucial things for us has been how easy it is to contact Miriam, discuss and implement ideas promptly when a swift response has been needed. Her media training has given us the confidence to deal with interviews more effectively and to view them as opportunities."

Experience

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