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Post by sharonl 18.04.12 22:04

Published on Wednesday 18 April 2012 15:59
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THE father of a British girl who went missing in Germany 30 years ago wants the Prime Minister to meet with her family as he did with the parents of Madeline McCann.

David Cameron promised to look into the case of Hartlepool youngster Katrice Lee, who disappeared from a British Army base in Germany in 1981, during Prime Minister’s Questions today.

It comes as Spanish police received a report of a possible sighting in the Costa Del Sol of missing youngster Madeline McCann, who went missing in Portugal in 2007.

Katrice’s family have battled for the Military Police to release files relating to the two-year-old’s disappearance for the past three decades.

Now her dad Richard Lee, from the Stockton Road area of Hartlepool, says Mr Cameron should meet with Katrice’s mum, just as he did with the parents of Madeline McCann.

Mr Lee, 62, said: “What I would like to see that Prime Minister do is at least give Katrice’s mother an interview.

“If Maddy McCann’s parents can go and see the Prime Minister then Katrice’s mother should be able to as well.

“There seems to be a two-tier system with missing children, those who have and those who have not.

“And I don’t say this to be nasty or bitter, but the McCanns have spent millions of pounds on their campaign.

“They’ve had better treatment and better media coverage.

“We haven’t been at this for four years, we’ve been at this for three decades, and I think the way that this family has been treated is despicable.”

Caroline Dinenage, who is the local MP for Katrice’s mother, Sharon, of Gosport, Hampshire, raised the issued in the House of Commons yesterday.

Mr Cameron met the McCanns while he was campaigning as the leader of the opposition.

When the McCanns sent him an open letter after he became Prime Minister he replied saying that the Metropolitan Police would be re-investigating the disappearance.
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Post by Guest 19.04.12 8:58

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4337-call-for-review-of-missing-girl-case-katrice-lee

As I mentioned on 8th February, this case illustrates what normally happens when children disappear.
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“If Maddy McCann’s parents can go and see the Prime Minister then Katrice’s mother should be able to as well.

“There seems to be a two-tier system with missing children, those who have and those who have not.

And I don’t say this to be nasty or bitter, but the McCanns have spent millions of pounds on their campaign.

“They’ve had better treatment and better media coverage.

“We haven’t been at this for four years, we’ve been at this for three decades, and I think the way that this family has been treated is despicable.”

Caroline Dinenage, who is the local MP for Katrice’s mother, Sharon, of Gosport, Hampshire, raised the issued in the House of Commons yesterday.

DC has opened a can of worms.
Is he now going to be impartial to all parents with a missing child who approached him for help? Let's see!

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Post by jay2001 19.04.12 12:29

Will Sharon, Sara Payne and Winnie Johnson also be invited to number 10 on International Missing Children's Day? It worries me that as team mc always hog the limelight and gatecrash various events for others that DC won't be able to sanction SY agreeing with the PJ's results.

Suppose it depends on what he thinks will be a vote winner.
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Post by jay2001 19.04.12 13:39

Sorry about mentioning Sara Payne - her child's body was found, but poor Winnie still hasn't found where her son's buried.
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Post by Guest 19.04.12 14:45

Who's the Sharon that you mentioned, Jay2001?
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Post by uppatoffee 19.04.12 14:53

Sharon is Katrice Lee's mum.

It must be really galling for other parents of missing children to see the disparity in treatment between the McCanns and themselves. Good on Katrice's dad for standing up for himself and drawing attention to their struggle for attention after all these years.
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Post by PeterMac 19.04.12 15:23

And the Matthews woman ? Her daughter was reported missing, if you remember.
Just because she was subsequently found doesn't alter that fact.
Equal treatment for all, I say !
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Post by jay2001 19.04.12 21:17

Sorry Jean and thanks uppatoffee - just catching up after being out and getting drenched!

Also forgot Kerry Needham, as she's been treated abysmally by various governments. Keep having senior moments and forgetting all sorts and there's plenty of confusion already in this case.

As for Karen Matthews she'd probably get on like a house on fire with the lady chav. It tickles me (not) that Tom Wells the Sun journo writes a lot about vile mum Matthews and yet lauds the lady who inspired the vile mum. Bunch of two faced hypocrites taking murkymoney and perpetuating the propaganda.
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Post by Miraflores 17.06.13 9:08

Good to see that this case has been re-opened:

(And no mention of another missing little girl to hijack the story.)
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Post by suzyjohnson 17.06.13 9:22

Out of interest. Aside from Katrice Lee, Madeleine McCann and Ben Needham, does anyone know of any other British children who have disappeared abroad and never been found?

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Post by Guest 17.06.13 9:48

I certainly can't think of any other cases offhand.

I presume that CCTV wasn't widespread in 1981 - it could have helped to solve the mystery.

So strange that this case received little, if any, coverage at the time and for many years thereafter.
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Remember watching this at the time, the mom and sister of Katrice Lee on This Morning...... notice how many mentions of Madeleine McCann.
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Post by plebgate 17.06.13 9:54

Maybe the family have complained about the amount of time and money spent on Maddie's case compared to their child's disappearance?

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Post by Guest 17.06.13 10:01

Katrice Lee case to be re-investigated 22.11.12
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Post by tiny 17.06.13 10:07

plebgate wrote:Maybe the family have complained about the amount of time and money spent on Maddie's case compared to their child's disappearance?



And so they should. what is so special about the mccanns to have all the help and money spent on them and others nothing
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Post by suzyjohnson 17.06.13 10:45

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:'I certainly can't think of any other cases offhand. I presume that CCTV wasn't widespread in 1981 - it could have helped to solve the mystery. So strange that this case received little, if any, coverage at the time and for many years thereafter.'








NFWTD, I think perhaps this might have been because the family were actually living in Germany, not just on holiday like the McCanns.

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Post by Guest 17.06.13 11:16

Maybe so but, as a British army family, I'd have thought they would have had the same coverage as if they had lived in the U K. 

I think that the Needham family was actually planning to settle on Kos; they weren't only there on holiday and even they got more coverage than the Lees.
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Post by suzyjohnson 17.06.13 14:01

Fair comment NFWTD.

It was thirty years ago though, maybe we weren't old enough to notice the news so much at the time? And there was no Crimewatch, internet.
Different times I suppose.

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Post by sheila.edwards 17.06.13 17:04

on this morning clip
They stated maddy WAS a stranger abduction abroad! if pm going to help this family now as well that shows hes not being unfair and presumably missing people are still helping them all as well.
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Post by Newintown 17.06.13 17:50

sheila.edwards wrote:on this morning clip
They stated maddy WAS a stranger abduction abroad! if pm going to help this family now as well that shows hes not being unfair and presumably missing people are still helping them all as well.

Sheila - I can never understand your comments at the best of times, they are so garbled and muddled, but my take on what you say here is the complete opposite to what everyone else is saying on this forum.   "Stranger abduction abroad", that only gives the impression that SY are still looking at an abduction and you saying the PM is going to help this family now that shows he's not being unfair (yet, they're going with "stranger abduction") - are you on the same planet as the rest of us??

Or have I got the wrong end of what you're saying?

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Newintown wrote:
sheila.edwards wrote:on this morning clip
They stated maddy WAS a stranger abduction abroad! if pm going to help this family now as well that shows hes not being unfair and presumably missing people are still helping them all as well.

Sheila - I can never understand your comments at the best of times, they are so garbled and muddled, but my take on what you say here is the complete opposite to what everyone else is saying on this forum.   "Stranger abduction abroad", that only gives the impression that SY are still looking at an abduction and you saying the PM is going to help this family now that shows he's not being unfair (yet, they're going with "stranger abduction") - are you on the same planet as the rest of us??

That's rather unfair and uncalled for Newintown, wasn't sheila talking about the Katrice Lee case and the PM helping them? That was according to them a stranger abduction abroad. That's what i understood.
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Post by Newintown 17.06.13 18:08

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sheila.edwards wrote:on this morning clip
They stated maddy WAS a stranger abduction abroad! if pm going to help this family now as well that shows hes not being unfair and presumably missing people are still helping them all as well.

Sheila - I can never understand your comments at the best of times, they are so garbled and muddled, but my take on what you say here is the complete opposite to what everyone else is saying on this forum.   "Stranger abduction abroad", that only gives the impression that SY are still looking at an abduction and you saying the PM is going to help this family now that shows he's not being unfair (yet, they're going with "stranger abduction") - are you on the same planet as the rest of us??

That's rather unfair and uncalled for Newintown, wasn't sheila talking about the Katrice Lee case and the PM helping them?  That was according to them a stranger abduction abroad. That's what i understood.

Many apologies to Sheila, I got confused as to who we were talking about with so many messages to catch up with.  I haven't posted for some time.  I still find most of her postings very difficult to understand/decifer though, as someone else commented a while ago.

ETA: I thought I wasn't going mad, I've just re-read Sheila's post and it was stated that "Maddy" was a stranger abduction on the "this morning" clip.  I do now understand that it wasn't Sheila's quote but what was said on the programme - sorry Sheila!  roses

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Post by Guest 17.06.13 20:35

suzyjohnson wrote:Fair comment NFWTD.

It was thirty years ago though, maybe we weren't old enough to notice the news so much at the time? And there was no Crimewatch, internet.
Different times I suppose.
Sadly I can't say that I was too young to notice - I have a son who was 3 when Katrice disappeared!

I may be wrong but I simply don't remember there being any coverage at the time.
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Post by suzyjohnson 17.06.13 20:49

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suzyjohnson wrote:Fair comment NFWTD.

It was thirty years ago though, maybe we weren't old enough to notice the news so much at the time? And there was no Crimewatch, internet.
Different times I suppose.
Sadly I can't say that I was too young to notice - I have a son who was 3 when Katrice disappeared!

I may be wrong but I simply don't remember there being any coverage at the time.


Oh, I see, and you would probably have remembered then, I found that somehow the news always hits home when you have a child yourself of similar age

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Post by Newintown 17.06.13 21:07

sheila.edwards wrote:on this morning clip
They stated maddy WAS a stranger abduction abroad! if pm going to help this family now as well that shows hes not being unfair and presumably missing people are still helping them all as well.

As usual Sheila your post is not very clear. Who actually said that "Maddy was a stranger abduction abroad" on the "This Morning" interview, was it when the newspaper headlines were being discussed in view of the Katrice Lee case?

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Post by sharonl 17.06.13 21:08

suzyjohnson wrote:Out of interest. Aside from Katrice Lee, Madeleine McCann and Ben Needham, does anyone know of any other British children who have disappeared abroad and never been found?

I would like to think that the ICMEC, PACT or Missing people charities should be able to provide us with a long list of children who have gone missing abroad.

Failing that, there is the national centre for genuinely missing children http://www.ncmec.eu/page.php?Id=18
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Post by Newintown 17.06.13 21:34

sharonl wrote:
suzyjohnson wrote:Out of interest. Aside from Katrice Lee, Madeleine McCann and Ben Needham, does anyone know of any other British children who have disappeared abroad and never been found?

I would like to think that the ICMEC, PACT or Missing people charities should be able to provide us with a long list of children who have gone missing abroad.

Failing that, there is the national centre for genuinely missing children  http://www.ncmec.eu/page.php?Id=18

The 3 charities you list,ICMEC, PACT or Missing people only seem to be interested in the monies they receive in, not actually doing anything substantial to find "missing" people with the money they get.

Obviously the McCanns took a leaf out the charities above and started their own "missing person" charity i.e.the Find Madeleine "Fund" in that same vein i.e. you can take in a lot of money on the pretence of searching for missing people i.e. Madeleine, but in fact you don't really have to do any real searching as the general public who contributed so much don't really know that, or won't query it.

With regard to the "Missing People" charity it would be good to know how many streets K.McCann has walked down searching for missing people or how many soup kitchens she's visited to see how many missing people are on the list of "the missing people" she is supposed to be helping.

Hello Kate, how are your feet these days pounding all those streets looking for missing people, have you found any one missing person yet?   Please let us know if so.

ETA: I fogot to ask Kate McCann is she knows what a soup kitchen is.  If she is really serious about helping "Missing People" I suggest she gets off her arse and does some real work like visiting soup kitchens around the UK trying to find missing people who may be homeless; I will then think she is serious about being an Ambassador for "Missing People" instead of a figurehead who is afraid of getting her hands dirty.

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Post by sheila.edwards 17.06.13 21:47

Sorry all I am busy at mo. just watched the katrice clip and quickly wanted to comment. Meant I was shocked to hear the Chief executive of Missing People charity stating on this morning for all to hear "Maddy WAS A STRANGER ABDUCTION ABROAD." I don't think that should be allowed Who told him that is what I wondered ! know they have social workers working with them ? do they work closely with police. I thought  maddy missing was still a mystery and case still being reviewed. That was not mentioned at all. Everyone to their own opinion as far as im concerned. To me there is no evidence ive seen to accept  that is a fact as was stated as a fact. I do think its nice to see other families being helped though.hope clearer now,don't wish to confuse anyone and will put more effort into postings
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Post by Miraflores 17.06.13 21:51

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suzyjohnson wrote:Fair comment NFWTD.

It was thirty years ago though, maybe we weren't old enough to notice the news so much at the time? And there was no Crimewatch, internet.
Different times I suppose.
Sadly I can't say that I was too young to notice - I have a son who was 3 when Katrice disappeared!

I may be wrong but I simply don't remember there being any coverage at the time.

Nor me. My children are now 34 and 32 so much the same age as Katrice and I don't remember a word about it.
I do remember some coverage of Ben Needham at the time, but absolutely nothing like the McCanns - within  less than 24 hours the press was screaming about an abducution.
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