Re: Forgiveness, Prayers, Misery and Fear McCanns V Tony Bennett merged with Real Support

by brilynn 13.02.13 19:32

Tony,after meeting you ,and other forum members,last week,I can understand the immense mental strain these past years would have caused in any loving family,so I send you and your lovely family, my sincere hope that the "problems" of today will be short lived . How that despicaple pair sleep at night,is beyond me,but" they "did say in court ,they do not wish you to be imprisoned ,or punished,you just have to stop what you,ve been doing!!!!Why spend all that money ,just to "demand" that ??? but of course they only got that annoucement made on their behalf ,after the bad headlines they,d received ,re" MaCaans seeking pensioner to be imprisoned" or words to that effect,I must admit ,sitting there in court at that moment ,I felt those words "shot them right in the foot".

by Beanie 13.02.13 19:34

[quote="jay2001

This tragic case has caused so much disruption and ruined many lives. Those selfish holiday makers have caused untold misery for so many innocent people by their actions. The parents have gained fame, 'celebrity', money and financially ruined two men who disagreed with their stories. A very christian attitude IMO - words fail me![/quote

Well said jay.

Excellent article by spudgun but i am very sorry to hear the sad news, best wishes Tony.

by Inspectorfrost 13.02.13 20:02

It is a very misery and fear ridden case. Full of bullying, thuggery, xenophobia, corrupt elements and other nasty elements. (And no I do not mean the PT police Wink

. Did Ben Needham's mother create all this nasty atmosphere? When she was campaigning? Did any other parents of a missing child? No. Does anyone remember any case where the blame for everything was put onto others including professionals involved or not, as well as innocent people? Does anyone know of any case where the suspects were allowed air time to ask for witnesses to come forward to THEM directly? Does anyone know of any case where millions of pounds havebeen thrown at the parents of a missing child and they STILL complained about police,the govt, people who helped them, the list goes on. Any case where the parents have already received a million or two to help the search but start SELLING merchandise and who pay lawyers and other leeches hundreds of thousands? For what?
wave

Not to mention TM have tried to offload and farm out the guilt misery and fear and culpability on others for six years now, nasty and very unchristian strategy, if I may say so, so bound to ultimately backfire, well, apart from on the abductor which Kate forgives of course for the heinous crime

My best wishes to Tony for the crap he has had to put up with too, I think it's going to be Ok myself.

by littlepixie 13.02.13 20:31

And lets not forget Leicestershire Constabulary advertising a link to the McCanns Limited Company where the suspects raised money to pay for lawyers for their defence (and their mortgage).

Never known a Police force do that before and then refuse to remove it when it was brought to their attention.

by Inspectorfrost 13.02.13 20:35

littlepixie wrote:And lets not forget Leicestershire Constabulary advertising a link to the McCanns Limited Company where the suspects raised money to pay for lawyers for their defence (and their mortgage).

Never known a Police force do that before and then refuse to remove it when it was brought to their attention.

OBVIOUSLY told to by someone

by davidslewgoliath 13.02.13 20:53

Thank you Tony for your post stating the judgement will be made public for all to read. Here's hoping it will be a well considered and just outcome for all concerned.

by plebgate 13.02.13 21:29

Inspectorfrost wrote:
littlepixie wrote:And lets not forget Leicestershire Constabulary advertising a link to the McCanns Limited Company where the suspects raised money to pay for lawyers for their defence (and their mortgage).

Never known a Police force do that before and then refuse to remove it when it was brought to their attention.

OBVIOUSLY told to by someone

I have never heard of a man who left his three children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country several nights in a row get a standing ovation from police officers. Incredible, absolutely incredible imo.

Also I have never hard of a man who left his three children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country several nights in a row be considered for Father of the Year by a Scottish newspaper. Incredible, absolutely incredible imo.

by Inspectorfrost 13.02.13 21:48

@plebgate the grusome twosome have been nominated for all sorts

Beggars belief doesn't it?

It WILL come out in the wash though, there is no longer any reason why it won't

Thing is, people who doubted their story from the minute it came on the telly, like they suddenly woke up one day and thought oh yeah, I have nothing to do, I will go criticise an innocent family because I am jealous of them, on benefits, ugly, must be a paedo etc

Have been villified for expressing honest doubts for the most pathetic of shoot oneself in the foot reasons, and not only that but bullied, harrassed, threatened too

And by the time saint kate's book was published everyone was villified that could be

Hello SY, hope you are reading.
friends

We dont want criminals terrorising the public for speaking their minds, thanks,you should do something about it ie Gerry Mccann going on telly saying he wants to know who all these people are that criticise, thats thuggery and threat at best

by Spaniel 13.02.13 22:28

plebgate wrote:
Inspectorfrost wrote:
littlepixie wrote:And lets not forget Leicestershire Constabulary advertising a link to the McCanns Limited Company where the suspects raised money to pay for lawyers for their defence (and their mortgage).

Never known a Police force do that before and then refuse to remove it when it was brought to their attention.

OBVIOUSLY told to by someone

I have never heard of a man who left his three children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country several nights in a row get a standing ovation from police officers. Incredible, absolutely incredible imo.

Also I have never hard of a man who left his three children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country several nights in a row be considered for Father of the Year by a Scottish newspaper. Incredible, absolutely incredible imo.

Its working well isn't it? That unlocked apartment and leaving them alone, it's becoming embedded in peoples minds. The Nation's minds.
A challenge for tomorrow. Ask one person this question. "You've heard of the McCanns, what are they famous for."
I guarantee most will say leaving their kids alone. The spin worked, lies whatever worked. You only need to read the comments at the Mail to realise it worked. Almost every comment says they left their kids alone. But did they? I don't think they did.

by Guest 13.02.13 23:06

Call me stupid, but could it be possible that when Leicester police put up a link to the McCs Fund page, they would be able to monitor the reactions?

by puzzled 13.02.13 23:11

Really sorry to hear about Tony's personal problems, I hope everything eventually works out.

by lufc50337 13.02.13 23:12

Spaniel if I ever mention the McCanns the reaction I always get is 'if they were from a council house they would have been locked up for neglect' and a rant about them neglecting the kids and getting away with it.

If I try to move the conversation on about what do they think actually happened to M I just get 'I dont know but I know they should be locked up for neglect'

A lot of people focus on the neglect and don't seem to look past that, I think because the neglect was so shocking and the McCanns and the rest of the Tapas mob didn't get prosecuted for it , it really bugs people

by Inspectorfrost 13.02.13 23:32

The problem with convincing others that there is something amiss in this story is that there is little stuff that is grounded in obvious facts, the elaborate deception is hard to describe in a sentence or two, I hope SY will find those sentences

by lufc50337 13.02.13 23:50

Inspectorfrost wrote:The problem with convincing others that there is something amiss in this story is that there is little stuff that is grounded in obvious facts, the elaborate deception is hard to describe in a sentence or two, I hope SY will find those sentences

You're right it would take too long to explain all the inconsistencies and red flags to somebody who has never thought or read about it in depth.

For some reason the majority of people a) arent inquisitive about things b) believe what is in the papers and on the news

by bristow 14.02.13 0:02

Spaniel wrote:Almost every comment says they left their kids alone. But did they? I don't think they did.

I have serious doubts about that too.

by plebgate 14.02.13 0:04

Spaniel wrote:
plebgate wrote:
Inspectorfrost wrote:
littlepixie wrote:And lets not forget Leicestershire Constabulary advertising a link to the McCanns Limited Company where the suspects raised money to pay for lawyers for their defence (and their mortgage).

Never known a Police force do that before and then refuse to remove it when it was brought to their attention.

OBVIOUSLY told to by someone

I have never heard of a man who left his three children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country several nights in a row get a standing ovation from police officers. Incredible, absolutely incredible imo.

Also I have never hard of a man who left his three children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country several nights in a row be considered for Father of the Year by a Scottish newspaper. Incredible, absolutely incredible imo.
Its working well isn't it? That unlocked apartment and leaving them alone, it's becoming embedded in peoples minds. The Nation's minds.
A challenge for tomorrow. Ask one person this question. "You've heard of the McCanns, what are they famous for."
I guarantee most will say leaving their kids alone. The spin worked, lies whatever worked. You only need to read the comments at the Mail to realise it worked. Almost every comment says they left their kids alone. But did they? I don't think they did.

The point being that this what they have admitted to.
In other words if any of us plebs had admitted to it would we have received the same treatment. Errrrrr I am guessing NO.
What
we think really happened doesn't enter into it. They have admitted a
potential crime and yet they still received a standing ovationfrom the
police and it was thought he might merit a Father of the Year title from
the newspaper.
You really could not make it up

by Inspectorfrost 14.02.13 0:07

bristow wrote:
Spaniel wrote:Almost every comment says they left their kids alone. But did they? I don't think they did.

I have serious doubts about that too.

If they didn't leave them what do you think happened?
goodnite, catch up tomorrow on this

by xertial 14.02.13 0:25

This will be my second post to this forum -

I joined in order to add a note to Mr. Bennett expressing my hope that the hearing would result in the best possible outcome for him.

My second post is also a note to Mr. Bennett expressing my hope that he receives the best possible outcome.

Like many of the rest of you, I have been following this case since 2007. I have no 'favorite players' in the sideline dramas that have erupted during the last 5+ years. I don't even have 'favorite' posters or blogs that I follow (but russiandoll does seem to express many of my own views quite frequently). I cannot sign your petitions, or even write to your MPs. I'm a foreigner, and reside in the U.S.

However, I do have respect and admiration for the people who have 'put it on the line' so to speak, and have the courage to raise their voice to question what does not make sense.... no matter what country they live in. Naturally, I'm going to throw my hopes and 'wishes for the best' to like-minded thinkers. I believe your press has been manipulated. I believe that there is far more smoke and mirrors (no direct relation to the poster with that username) being used than in any other criminal event I have seen.

I don't even know what the specific crime(s) is/are anymore. At first, I believed it was a death being covered up. At some point I began to even doubt that the child existed at the time of the fateful 'holiday'. Sometimes I believe that the private investigators AND the supposed settlement from the newspaper was a pure 'money laundering' operation to get dollars from the fund back into the hands of the family and confuse the money trail. Other times I believe that the ultimate goal has always been one of obtaining a political post. I don't even know anymore if I am seeking justice for a little girl.... or if I just don't want to see 'bad people' win by manipulation and deception. Probably both.

My bottom line is that I do realize and appreciate that both Mr. Bennett and Dr. Amaral have sacrificed much in what I believe are sincere attempts to get to the truth of the matter.... and I fervently wish that I had even a 10th of their courage and/or wherewithall to do the same.

Mr. Bennett & Dr. Amaral - you have this anonymous poster's respect for your endeavors. It's not much, but it is one more voice letting you know that what you have managed to accomplish is seen and heard by many.

Finally - an Albert Einstein (quotable quote)

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything”

by Mirage 14.02.13 0:49

Thank you for your message of support Xertial which will be hugely appreciated by all, I know.
I feel these are dark and uncertain times for democracy and freedom of speech in this country.
Like you, I find this case mystifying. The only constant is that lie upon lie has been told and for some reason the public is being fed false accounts.
It is good to know America and all the world is watching this.
Thank you again for that reassurance from an outside perspective.

by listener 14.02.13 1:27

xertial wrote:

[b]"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything”

Like Harriet Harmon? (who only uses them)

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by listener 14.02.13 1:51

listener wrote:
xertial wrote:

[b]"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything”

Like Harriet Harmon? (who only uses them)

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And DC is fooked too - because what top cop is going to produce a solid conclusion that she was abducted?
(how many millions has this cost, so far?)

by jd 14.02.13 2:19

The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything”

This is a very true comment

by Smokeandmirrors 14.02.13 6:23

Xertial, love the Einstein quote, sums it all up really, and why so many people won't let this go, why we follow it year after year.

Other posters have made excellent points too, in essence, disbelief at the injustice of it all. Whichever way you look at it, there are scores of small points which don't quite seem right or are worthy of closer scrutiny (and thank goodness there are some tenacious folk here who do some impressive spade work to uncover the finer details) and as a collective whole it is both shocking and somewhat confusing. As someone said, it is very difficult to convey in a sentence or two the reasons why the abduction theory holds no water (there is simply too much evidence - volumes full), and as someone else said, the majority of the population function at a very rudimentary level, and are not "thinkers". These "non-thinkers" have just accepted the story, and all it's lies and inconsistencies, and they will no doubt accept being herded through life like sheep till the end of their days.

Letting dishonest, arrogant, dangerous people dictate to us, the way McCann is regarding Leveson, is the slippery slope to a totalitarian state. None of us should let this go. Not ever. There is no way a pair of nobodies like them should be dictating what we can read in our free press.