Re: Metodo 3 Met police follow new leads - 30 boxes taken

by Gillyspot 20.12.11 22:26

Pershing36 wrote:
Angelique wrote:

But I think they may have started typing furiously as soon the Reveiw was announced.

My feeling exactly.

I can see a new legal case on its way after the inquiry against M3. If SY dismiss their investigation as rubbish then I am sure they will be gunning for damages. You can see it can't you. M3 wasted vital time when at a crucial time when she could have been found.

They will follow the PJ in the botching the investigation. They are probably be thinking the money wasn't worth it any time soon.

But who would sue M3? I am guessing Kate & Gerry McCann were happy with their work (sic) at the time so why would they sue M3 now?

by **PeterMac** 20.12.11 22:33

Gillyspot wrote:
But who would sue M3? I am guessing Kate & Gerry McCann were happy with their work (sic) at the time so why would they sue M3 now?

Why ?
Money. Publicity. Money. Sympathy. Money. Publicity. Money ...................................

by Pershing36 20.12.11 22:34

Gillyspot wrote:
Pershing36 wrote:
Angelique wrote:

But I think they may have started typing furiously as soon the Reveiw was announced.

My feeling exactly.

I can see a new legal case on its way after the inquiry against M3. If SY dismiss their investigation as rubbish then I am sure they will be gunning for damages. You can see it can't you. M3 wasted vital time when at a crucial time when she could have been found.

They will follow the PJ in the botching the investigation. They are probably be thinking the money wasn't worth it any time soon.

But who would sue M3? I am guessing Kate & Gerry McCann were happy with their work (sic) at the time so why would they sue M3 now?

You have me at a loss. I was under the impression that M3 were released because of lack of progress?

by Gillyspot 20.12.11 22:36

PeterMac wrote:
Gillyspot wrote:
But who would sue M3? I am guessing Kate & Gerry McCann were happy with their work (sic) at the time so why would they sue M3 now?
Why ?
Money. Publicity. Money. Sympathy. Money. Publicity. Money ...................................

Possibly so but why didn't Kate & Gerry speak out about Kevin Halligen (or Helligen) case? Noticeable by their absence in this to my mind.

by Pershing36 20.12.11 22:47

If I owned M3 I would be bricking it right now. I am sure every receipt, travel destination, person's interviewed will be scrutinised by SY. I doubt the police are going to be in any hurry to praise the work of Pi's, they do not generally hold them in high regards. They see them as people who get paid 5 times the amount for doing a 1/4 of the job. I am sure there will be plenty of reports on their actions for the lawyers to get their teeth into.

by Ollie 20.12.11 22:54

I was surprised that SY took boxes from M3. I thought (maybe naively) that they would only be looking at the PJ files and liasing with the Portugal police. I wonder if the McCanns were expecting SY to visit M3?

by **Nina** 20.12.11 23:03

30 boxes are a lot of boxes even though they don't look huge according to the picture. Was it just paperwork as I would have thought that a lot of stuff would have been on computers. Did they take those too?

by Pershing36 20.12.11 23:28

Personally I can see the headline coming something on the lines of;

Maddy missing, M3 makes a meal of it

"SY has revealed that in the crucial weeks after her abduction Private investigators run up huge costs, including 1st class airline tickets to luxury locations, stayed in 5* star hotels and racked up huge expenses."

From what I have read M3 boss has been accused of things before. I sure this will be dredged up to advantage.

by Cheshire Cat 21.12.11 3:35

Nina wrote:30 boxes are a lot of boxes even though they don't look huge according to the picture. Was it just paperwork as I would have thought that a lot of stuff would have been on computers. Did they take those too?

This is what was taken in a raid on M3's office back in 1995: "In a raid on Metodo 3's Barcelona offices, police seized handguns, ammunition, listening equipment, cassettes and transcripts of taped phone calls. But the 1995 case was dropped by a judge after defence lawyers levelled accusations of police entrapment."

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But despite the fears in the article CM said "The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the agency retained their confidence and was not acting illegally for them."

by Pershing36 21.12.11 10:28

Ironic really, they hire an agency accused of illegally tapping phones, then a few years later appear at an enquiry that among other things is dealing with phone hacking.

by Guest 21.12.11 11:32

1. The couple claim to have left their 3 children alone with the patio door (directly accessible from the street) open and state that Madeleine was abducted.
2. There is no evidence of a break-in yet the couple are still free to tell the world that there was one and they can do this unchallenged.
3. They have collected millions for a fund for which there is (pardon the pun) no accountability yet people continue to donate despite the couple's non cooperation with the police
4. The public is left to believe that the McCanns are working very hard to find their missing daughter yet we now see that there is "new" evidence from the first team of detectives they hired at the expense of the public's donations
5. It takes SY who are also funded by the tax payer to "prise" this new information from those detectives which was or should have been under the McCann's noses for the last 4 years yet this is a new fantastic revelation splashed across our screens?

TBH I feel sick. Is there anyone at all with a conscience?

by Pershing36 22.12.11 15:37

Lets face it there is only a few reasons why M3 have those boxes. I can only think of 3.

1. It was left with them as they knew it was useless because they know the child cannot be found.
2. They left M3 on bad terms and they refused to release it to them.
3. M3 after hearing there was going to be an enquiry thought they better gather up a load of useless rubbish to make it look like they did something.

2 seems unlikely as I am sure they would have got it off them by some legal suit.

by jd 22.12.11 17:49

2. There is no evidence of a break-in yet the couple are still free to tell the world that there was one and they can do this unchallenged.

Yep this is the fact of the matter

by aiyoyo 23.12.11 5:58

Ollie wrote:I was surprised that SY took boxes from M3. I thought (maybe naively) that they would only be looking at the PJ files and liasing with the Portugal police. I wonder if the McCanns were expecting SY to visit M3?

They sure did, apparently. They said they were pleased the Yard were making progress.

by aiyoyo 23.12.11 6:05

Nina wrote:30 boxes are a lot of boxes even though they don't look huge according to the picture. Was it just paperwork as I would have thought that a lot of stuff would have been on computers. Did they take those too?

Maybe it wasn't M3's idea to hand over 30 boxes.

Maybe it's case of the police searched through M3's office, took what to them looked like useful to look through.
They were looking for more than leads. If it was leads they're after they could have asked M3 and those will be picked those out and given to them and 8 leads wont add up to 30 boxes imo.

by aiyoyo 23.12.11 6:28

PeterMac wrote:
"Cheshire Cat"
Bogus detectives ripping off clients or bogus detectives following instructions from clients?
Of a conspiracy between and among bogus detectives, following bogus instructions from bogus clients relayed to them through a bogus spokesman.
Who can say ?
But it all looks very strange, particularly, as you observe, SY are not trying to find Madeleine. Their remit is to review the way the so called search has been organised. And this must involve looking at the way funds were spent.

The fund is a pte ltd company, effectively the mccanns can spend it anyhow they want even if they were to splash out on luxuries, it will not not illegal to do so. Only by scrutinizing works orders, and works done or not done by the pte detectives can the Yard determined whether the pte detectives is just a front or doing authentic work.

If they can prove the mccanns pte detectives are fraudulent where money transactions and instructions between team mccanns and pte detectives are a scam, as in bogus instructions, bogus sightings, bogus claims, and bogus payments (tokenistic payments but made out to look more) and their objective wasn't about searching for Maddie then not only the Fund becomes suspicious and justify further investigation but crucially the mccanns abduction hence search stories need to be seriously looked at.

I believe if the Yard cannot get hold of the rest of PJ files and PP not cooperating with the Yard as reported then maybe the Yard is working in reverse order. If the Yard can prove fraudulent fund and the mccanns are hauled up for interrogation over it then everything else will be revealed in the process.

Otherwise I cant see what the Yard can do their review results because the investigation of the crime of homicide remains the remit of the Portuguese police.

On the hypothesis that they find irregularities in the fund, they can take the mccanns to book over the fraudulent fund because this illegal criminality is considered predominantly committed on UK soil and remit of UK law enforcers.

On the hypothesis the Yard discovered the mccanns abduction tale is a cover up for a more serious crime, there is nothing they can do about bringing the mccanns to book or prosecuting them, unless they've unearthed new evidence that PJ can use to justify a reopening of the case.