My Thanks to All for your Support!It has been a crazy last few days but I wanted to stop in and say "Thanks!" to each and every one of you who have posted encouraging words and your support for the road ahead. I have been quite quiet since four months ago

It has been a crazy last few days but I wanted to stop in and say "Thanks!" to each and every one of you who have posted encouraging words and your support for the road ahead. I have been quite quiet since four months ago when my book was pulled from Amazon and some wondered why. Now you know! Taking a legal route to get answers, to stop the crushing of Freedom of Speech, and to seek justice and truth is not normally my preferred route. However, it may be the only route in the case. Even if the McCanns are not guilty of anything more than neglect and obstruction of a police investigation, their behaviors have had an impact on missing child cases, support funds, police handling of such cases, and the media. All of this needs to be addressed openly, in the UK and the US and everywhere else in the world.

BTW, if you haven't seen my new post up at Women in Crime Ink, please take a read!

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2011/11/freedom-of-speech-mccanns-and-searching.html

Again, my thanks for being here, fighting for answers, and lending me your support.

Pat Brown

Excellent post Pat. Good luck with the search for the truth.

Pat, you have the chance right at your fingertips now to get justice for Madeleine. All the best to you.

The McCanns have gone too far. Simple. Well done Pat for having the guts to take them on.

It's only right that you defend yourself from these criminals Pat. Well done xxxx

good luck and perhaps we will soon be nearer he truth

Bonnybraes is doing a good job of spontaneous combustion over on JATYK seeing you posting here

Excellent post though Pat, and I hope it all goes very well for you. Madeleine needs people like you and Tony and Goncalo.

2012 looks like a good year for Madeleine but not so good for her lousy parents.

Pat... and wishing you all the best in your quest for truth and justice for little Madeleine.

Thank you Pat. I am glad you are helpng Goncalo Amaral - he has been bullied, ridiculed and has had his career stolen from him. How dare these people abuse him in this way! Tonight it seems as if the scales of justice are a little more balanced and with that, increased hope that there will be justice for Madeleine McCann. Once again thank you so much.

Pat Brown wrote:Even if the McCanns are not guilty of anything more than neglect and obstruction of a police investigation, their behaviors have had an impact on missing child cases, support funds, police handling of such cases, and the media.

Exactly. And they can't be allowed to continue. They must be stopped from damaging more people's lives.
Good luck with your search for Maddie in Portugal

Well done Pat keep up the good work.

Me and the other twitterati are supporting you all the way on the black hole that is twitter.

Thank you Pat, you are a great source of inspiration and hope to those of us who long for this epic façade to be brought to a close; and for justice to prevail for Maddie, a little girl so badly let down by her parents.


May God bless you

I am glad to hear that you are not lying down and are coming out fighting on this one Pat. It is so very important that we still continue to try. At one time the McCanns & Co would have been stopped in their tracks right away but this world has gone through an almighty change whereby some people are getting the upper hand & getting away with it for far too long.
Its all about to change and I am so glad there are people like you and Tony and Mr Amaral. I stand beside you all xx

Pat Brown wrote:Even if the McCanns are not guilty of anything more than neglect and obstruction of a police investigation, their behaviors have had an impact on missing child cases, support funds, police handling of such cases, and the media.

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Pat
You hammered the nail right on the head!
Even if not about truth for a child, it's about time someone stand up to that intimidating pair using of dubious legitimacy public donated fund to silence free speech by suing people.

It's about time the mccanns odd behaviour associating to a missing child, and not the mccanns plight, is put under spotlight. Their suppression of the police files and litigations against all and sundry need to be exposed.

A wise decision! And a much applauded one. I look forward to hearing how this court case develops.

Thank you Pat for coming onto our forum and giving us information on your up and coming case against the McCanns. I think you will know that 99% of members here are level headed people who are educated, fair, and seek justice for Maddie and for freedom of speech (we get the few odd trolls). All of us are right behind you every step of the way and would love to be in the courtroom with you in February. What the McCanns did to you via carter ruck is nothing short of trying suppress your freedom of speech (like to us and to Tony in particular), not to mention they stopped your course of business, and you have no idea what a good thing you are doing with this. Their nasty underhand tactics and abuse of their positions to stop anyone with an opinion has to be challenged. Your case is very important and you have to break these people who are trying to stamp down on people and our liberties with their money and power. Its what I call a subtle form of dictatorship without the armoury

You won't need me to say this but I will, just be careful with what you say on the internet before the case. These so called powers are watching and will use anything you say against you in court so make sure of your words. And keep your cards up your sleeve and don't give any indication of them until it is time in court and only in court

To the pro mccanns on forums like JAYTK, they are not real people so are not worth spending a second of time on. They are either kids or uneducated ones, who if they came to you for a job you would never ever give them one as they are not capable. They are ones who cannot get on the real world and in real life, they have no idea what real life is about, their only outlet is to expel their venom and hatred on the internet and the more popular the subject they can expel their hatred on, the more they feel in some way important & get their kicks. They are not able to get their kicks in any other way

I think you have said clearly enough you will not settle for an out of court settlement and you are not interested in this, you are determined to seek justice for Maddie, for freedom of speech and for your own personal business reasons. Personally, I think you have to get both mccanns on their own in the box. Until now they have been protected by ring of powers of the UK, but in a courtroom they will be vulnerable on their own which they have proven on many occasions. Don't let them get away with what Dr Conrad Murray has been doing in the Jackson case, letting his lawyers speak for him. They will twist, lie and distort anything as they are desperate nasty creatures. You have to get the mccanns themselves in that box on their own, with your lawyer they will crumble as they cannot deal with the pressure of the lies by themselves and you will get the to the truth

One final thing, I understand your 4 reasons for the search fund you have set up. But I think in your search it would be a good idea to also bare in mind that this scam was pre set up before the holiday. There is more than enough evidence to support this except for the dogs, and if the real Maddie was ever there on that particular holiday. I think you will find a lot of answers & success by investigating the directors of the Madeleine Fund

Cranks theories like JD`s do not help the image of non-supporters!

jd wrote:There is more than enough evidence to support this except for the dogs,

Well quite. Enough said I think.

We are all entitled to our opinions, its a free country

Besides how can you be sure it is crank. You think 100% the dogs are right and thats that, so your mind cannot be open to other possibilities. Though I tend to believe the dogs too, you still cannot be 100% certain at this point in time

I don't think it is enough said...thats ridiculous and insulting

This is a forum for debate JD, whether someone agrees with you or not, you are free to post as you wish. We just have to accept that some genuine posters will not agree with you and there will always be a few who are not here to debate.

As it goes, (takes mod hat off now and speaking as an individual) I think there is evidence to support your theory and also to explain the dogs findings. So you see, we all have different ways of thinking and we should all accept that.

I didnt give that comment lightly, ive been around all the main forums regarding Maddy case since the first day of The Mirror forum and they all started to lose integrity and respect from people on the outside when they read about fantastical conspiracy theories and I find it a shame and annoys me. Anyone remember everyone getting sucked unto `Coldwaters` nonsense!. Your post itself was great, until I got to the last paragraph. I never mentioned anything about `the dogs` either!!, I just dont beleive this was a pre-planned affair. or there is any evidence that points toward that theory.

Stella wrote:This is a forum for debate JD, whether someone agrees with you or not, you are free to post as you wish. We just have to accept that some genuine posters will not agree with you and there will always be a few who are not here to debate.

As it goes, (takes mod hat off now and speaking as an individual) I think there is evidence to support your theory and also to explain the dogs findings. So you see, we all have different ways of thinking and we should all accept that.

Exactly Stella and I totally agree with you

This is why I say how I feel and expect them to come under scrutiny, this is the only way I can get to the truth. I have been honest enough to say despite my theory which I have strong reasons to believe in more than anything in this scam, what is breaking it down are the dogs. This is something I cannot explain to fit in with my theory at the moment, and am looking to find the answer via all the members on here with their expertise and knowledge until something makes sense and fits in

I just found the way PeterMac worded his disagreement of my theory as being patronising and insulting.....Highlighting the dogs and quoting 'enough said I think'....this is not discussing a disagreement or giving any credit to someone who has a different opinion and is effectively saying 'you are stupid'...and I really resent this and only expect trolls to be treated like this

jd, as you know, I recently came under a lot of scrutiny and sometimes I think you just have to turn the other cheek and do your best to move on. If we have something to contribute, it is best to focus on that, not other posters.

Stella wrote:jd, as you know, I recently came under a lot of scrutiny and sometimes I think you just have to turn the other cheek and do your best to move on. If we have something to contribute, it is best to focus on that, not other posters.

True. I think I was more surprised than anything as PeterMac is normally articulate and respectful, and makes valuable contributions. Maybe a troll hacked into his account this morning!

No. It is very difficult to understand the true meaning of some posts. We do not see facial expressions or the tone of how things are intended. Maybe PeterMac was just referring to a recent thread where the dogs findings had been completely disected, to the point where it could not be proven that their findings identified the actual spot where death had occurred. Only where a dead body had once been. Do you see, maybe as we have already discussed this, he was simply stating that in effect we have already 'been there, done that'.

I wouldn't dwell on this jd, we need to save our energy for bigger and much better things to come.

Stella wrote:No. It is very difficult to understand the true meaning of some posts. We do not see facial expressions or the tone of how things are intended. Maybe PeterMac was just referring to a recent thread where the dogs findings had been completely disected, to the point where it could not be proven that their findings identified the actual spot where death had occurred. Only where a dead body had once been. Do you see, maybe as we have already discussed this, he was simply stating that in effect we have already 'been there, done that'.

I wouldn't dwell on this jd, we need to save our energy for bigger and much better things to come.

jd wrote:

Stella wrote:No. It is very difficult to understand the true meaning of some posts. We do not see facial expressions or the tone of how things are intended. Maybe PeterMac was just referring to a recent thread where the dogs findings had been completely disected, to the point where it could not be proven that their findings identified the actual spot where death had occurred. Only where a dead body had once been. Do you see, maybe as we have already discussed this, he was simply stating that in effect we have already 'been there, done that'.

I wouldn't dwell on this jd, we need to save our energy for bigger and much better things to come.

As I say to my wife sometimes, we agree to disagree. We don't get a divorce!

For the Maddie case, all views and ideas should be thrown into the pot. My personal view is that Madeleine met her demise prior to 3 May but that there was no pre-planning. I believe a business meeting took place in Praia Da Luz rather than a family holiday (nothing sinister, perhaps to gain funding for a medical project, with GM there in his capacity as a cardio expert) and Madeleine died either in an accident or was the victim of an attack from outside of the family.

The Gaspar statements as well as Yvonne Martins statements worry me greatly. Particularly as the Gaspar statements were held back by the Leicester Police. The Gaspar statements reveal a family holiday in a big house, for K.Gaspar a genuine family holiday and a chance to relax and enjoy the warmth of Majorca. However, within that group, Mrs Gaspar observed behaviour that would set alarm bells ringing when Madeleine disappeared.

GO GO GO Pat!!!

I am so excited about that, I can't wait to see this evil couple in a court of law...

They were lucky until now but things change..

Thank you Pat, and good luck!!!