Is Scotland Yard fit to carry out Madeleine McCann Review?

Tony Bennett wrote:

jd wrote:This is really interesting info re the Symingtons/Ocean Club connections. One of the many strange things about this case is KM saying 'THEY have taken her' which more than suggests she knew who had taken Maddie and wasn't expecting this to happen.

What evidence is there that she actually said this?

For that matter, what evidence is there that she actually ran down to the Tapas bar as claimed?

Port shipping company leads me to suspect that if Maddie was taken then this would be a way of getting her out of the country undetected as there would be connections, not directly linked to the Symington family, but maybe employees or someone that knew how to easily get her onto one of their ships without anyone else knowing. Underworld ring perhaps? Its also interesting that Murat is also related as a 4th cousin

What is much more interesting than that is that sniffer dogs employed by one of the world's top dog handlers found the scent of a corpse in 10 places associated with the McCanns in Praia da Luz, but nowhere else in Praia da Luz  

I am confused as to who actually owns that apartment?

Yes it was Ruth McCann. I am not sure this takes us much further.

Also, it is stated that GM in the first 30 mins after supposedly knowing Maddie had gone, phoned a good friend of his who just happened to be a diplomat and a close aide to Gordon Brown. At this particular time I would be panicked to be looking for my child rather than phoning a Gordon Brown aide! Coincidence or not that someone there also had connections direct to Sky and BBC News.

That's just one of many things about the behaviour of the McCanns and their friends which contradicts the claim that Madeleine was abducted. Take: ripping out the front cover of Madeleine's Activity Sticker Book and writing up two fabricated time lines on it. Or try: Jane Tanner not talking to the McCanns about seeing a man carrying a child until 24 hours later.  

There is something in all this which I can't quite put my finger on yet...

Lies?




Just a bit more information on Ruth McCann's late husband. Michael William McCann was born in Plymouth in 1945. His mother's maiden name was "Fanning". However, I can't find a marriage for a McCann and Fanning, so did Michael's parents marry in Scotland, for example?


Michael McCann died suddenly in 2006. At the time of his death he was living in Liverpool. This is his obituary:


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Published in the Plymouth Herald on 12th July 2006 (Distributed in Plymouth, Plympton)

McCANN Mike July 7th 2006. Suddenly at home in Liverpool. Formerly of Homer Park, Saltash, devoted husband to Ruth, dear brother to Kevin and Viv and loving uncle to Donna, Kevin and Michael. Will be sadly missed. Rest in peace


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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Mr Michael William Mccann
Ex-Director of Iebe Trading Limited

Date of Birth: 1945
Nationality: British
Location: Berkshire



Mr Michael William Mccann is British and was born in 1945. The first directorship we have on file for him was in 1998 at Institute For Education Business Excellence. Him newest directorship was with Liverpool Compact Education Business Partnership where he held the position of "Consultant". The company was established 10 Jan 1990 . So far, Michael has held 6 directorships, 0 of which are currently active, and 6 are previous.

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That Donna can't be the daughter of the Michael McCann who later married Ruth; he was born in 1945 and couldn't possibly have had a daughter old enough to be married in 1970.

It does seem more likely that he bought the property with his daughter and son-in-law but then that doesn't explain why she wasn't mentioned in his obituary.

New detectives hired by the McCanns are criticized

A former Scotland Yard detective hired to search for Madeleine McCann is conducting a private murder investigation to discredit police evidence against her parents.
But last night fears were raised that Noel Hogan might not be up to the job.
Mr Hogan, who runs a private detective agency, has re-interviewed British witnesses including the McCanns holiday friends.

He is also understood to have gone through the McCanns’ own statements in minute detail with the couple.
In a startling twist, Kate and Gerry’s lawyers have ordered that their own inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance, while on holiday in Portugal last May, should focus on the theory that the three-year-old was killed and her body hidden.
Hogan International, which specialises in asset investigations, is taking over the case after the McCanns benefactors voiced dismay at the lack of tangible progress made by the Spanish agency Metodo 3.
Sources close to the inquiry say the two firms have a history of rivalry after previously clashing over conflicting investigations.

In an exclusive interview with the Sunday Express, Mr Hogan revealed that his previous experience of missing people cases was limited to tracing beneficiaries of wills. He also admitted that despite the high profile of the Madeleine investigation, his 12-strong team of former detectives and ex-SAS men were already handling around 5,000 cases.

Speaking from his office in a rundown tower block in Aldershot, Hants, Mr Hogan refused to say how much he was being paid. He said: ‘I don’t want to become part of the circus surrounding Madeleine. I am not allowed to go into operational detail and I just do what I am told.

‘We deal with all matters of investigation, but it is true that normally the missing people we deal with are those who have inherited something and then disappeared. We have never dealt with a missing child.

‘I am not going to boast about success rates like Metodo 3, because that did nobody a favour. We have one office and there are 12 people who work here. If I need to I can bring other people in.

‘When the police have a big case they do not stop investigating all the others they are working on.

‘I have a lot of people who I know who are ex-policemen and know how to handle a criminal investigation.

‘The Portuguese police have put a complete closedown on any facts. Normally in this country you would have a liaison officer with the family.’

Another former Scotland Yard officer, who has given unofficial advice to the McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, last night voiced his concern at the appointment. He said: I cannot understand why they have chosen to go with Mr Hogan because he simply does not have the resources or the back-up to conduct a major investigation.

The advice I have given to the McCanns was to urge them to request a meeting with Scotland Yard and to ask them to take over the British side of the investigation. The Yard has a very sophisticated and well-resourced kidnap squad, which deals with more than 300 abductions a year, far more than any other force in Britain. Forces from around the world turn to them for advice.

My view is that the McCanns should not waste money with private investigators but should get the best police in Britain on the job.

I think the role of Leicestershire Police is confused. At first they sent officers to Portugal to offer liaison assistance to the McCanns but now it appears they are investigating them on behalf of the Portuguese. It has become a mess.

Last night Mr Hogan retorted: I was in Surrey Police for four years and the Met after that. I finished top of my CID course but decided to leave to start my own business.

I am not a disgraced former policeman. I deal in professional investigations and I have been doing this a long time.
Control Risks Group, which is advising the investigation on behalf of the McCanns billionaire backer Brian Kennedy, are also reported have taken on a larger role.
But no significant new lines of inquiry are being examined and, despite an overwhelming response to their Christmas appeal, the McCanns have been advised to focus on their own defence.
A source close to the family said: The investigation is working towards a resolution and we have to consider that Madeleine may have been murdered.
We have been working to the theory she may have been killed and all the possible scenarios are being considered.
Of course we hope very much that she is alive but nothing can be ruled out.

Eight months after Madeleine vanished, Portuguese detectives have made it clear they think Kate and Gerry staged an abduction in an attempt to provide a smokescreen for a more sinister crime.

marconi wrote:The theater play performed by the Met police started 2.5 years ago. Most people were convinced that it was a whitewash. They were not able to believe something else and I could understand it.
But from the very begining I believed that it was serious. Cameron's letter on the Sun, answering the McCann's, was ironical and tough. My idea was that he was fed up of the parents.
Some weeks later the Met confirmed the review.
It went slowly, it was taking ages before we could hear about what was going on. Translations, translations and after one year they presented a photo of Madeleine's, at the age of 9 and an appeal to the public to search for her.
And it was when we heard that the PJ had started their own review.
Again ages and ages, very irritating, till we heard that some authorities had being in Portugal and we had hope.
Andy Redwood a couple of times on tv and we got the Crimewatch 1,2,3.
On the first two ones, there were appeals to the public.

The Tanner man(1), who was eliminated on the second Crimewatch(2) and an appeal to the public to identify the Smith man(2).

And now Crimewatch 3 : no new appeal, no new person of interest, no reference to Mr. and Mrs. McCann  and the Tapas as being innocent.
Just a thick THANK YOU to the public.
 
Crimewatch 3 is the most eloquent statement or interview that the Met ever did in this case, I believe.
It could not be better.

I think we are arriving at the end of the play.

And we will aplaude the PJ, the Yard, all of the blogs, forums, after so many years fighting for justice for Madeleine.

marconi wrote:On Panorama Australia,  Jim Gamble says that he would be shocked if the McCanns were inolved in Madeleine's fate

awto wrote:The SY should under NO circumstance be allowed to re-open or investigate this case, it should be given to a totally independent police force with NO ties to UK
The UK for sure have a hold over Portugal in some way, how else did the master police man get fired and sued ?

The SY should under NO circumstances be allowed to handle or remove any of the collected evidence.

sallypelt wrote:Taken from Joanna's blog:

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by Marisa Rodrigues

New witnesses of the English investigation to Madeleine McCann's disappearance are going to be questioned at the request of Scotland Yard (SY). The fifth letter rogatory is already in the hands of the Judiciary Police (PJ), who will now have to schedule the questionings.

The new [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], to whom the Maddie process was recently attributed, authorized the questionings and forwarded the letter to the South PJ Directory, in Faro, so they can be carried out. JN was able to establish that there are about ten witnesses and that all of them are going to be questioned for the first time within the scope of the English investigation. Some of them are, however, already known to the Portuguese investigation and they had nothing relevant to say regarding the English child who disappeared seven years ago in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve.

Even though the English police has expressed their interest in questioning again the four men constituted as arguidos [formal suspects], that had been questioned [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], the English ended up leaving them out of this letter rogatory, which arrived to the Public Ministry in August. These new investigative steps should take place in the very same manner as it happened three months ago, with a notice for the witnesses to appear at the PJ headquarters. When the date is set, Scotland Yard may then request to the National PJ Directory to be present, without being able to intervene, just as before.

Last time they were in Portugal, on the 14th October, the English police expressed their desire to make a new letter rogatory (the sixth) requesting for the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that had been collected in the apartment from where Madeleine disappeared, namely hair samples and the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

In a meeting at the National Institute of Forensic Medicine (INML), in Coimbra, which gathered detectives and forensic experts, Andy Redwood's team also spoke about the possibility that some of the samples could be taken to England and analysed in a private lab. Until the end of the afternoon, yesterday, no request had been made in that sense to the Public Ministry of Portimão, whose role is to assess and decide on the letters rogatory.

in Jornal de Notícias, paper edition, November 4, 2014

This should NOT be allowed, they could easy contaminate the evidence, or even use it to hang someone innocent out as scapegoat, please PJ don't let them remove any evidence, make sure they are watched with a fast frame camera, while they are at Coimbra.



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