Re: Bernt Stellander interview

by **Nina** 07.10.24 12:41

If Madeleine had had an accident on the Sunday why wouldn't she be hospitalised though? Surely as parents, let alone senior medics, they would have had her checked over. It was at this time though when the McCanns breakfasts and lunches changed to them being alone in their own apartment not mixing with the rest of the group and their children which I always found so odd.

by Jojo1 07.10.24 12:42

I have every faith in you Bernt and have to say that I am in it it for the long haul, for however long it takes, to see it all through.
Every strategy takes time, patience and planning to get results whatever they may be. Timing is everything absolutely.

by **Jill Havern** 07.10.24 12:43

Nina wrote:If Madeleine had had an accident on the Sunday why wouldn't she be hospitalised though? Surely as parents, let alone senior medics, they would have had her checked over. It was at this time though when the McCanns breakfasts and lunches changed to them being alone in their own apartment not mixing with the rest of the group and their children which I always found so odd.

Because of the SA possibilty?

(Gaspars)

shhhh

by **BerntS** 07.10.24 12:53

You won't feel triumphant, because your timelines will be parked and locked in with Smithman where they belong, - in a very dark place. Some of you will still keep looking for the keys I'm destroying. That's how truth works, it brings out the worst in people, as we've seen in the latest trashing campaigns on fb by some of the biggest authorities on the case.

by **Jill Havern** 07.10.24 12:56

by **CaKeLoveR** 07.10.24 13:14

I mean triumphant about being correct that the McCann parents are guilty. I find it hard to believe that there are still people protesting their innocence. I assume they are the same people who have been so unpleasant on 'social media' towards Bernt.

by **BerntS** 07.10.24 13:18

No. The worst attacks have come from the biggest self proclaimed authorities on this case. It would be accurate to call it a campaign, as I've been approached by people they've tried to recruit to join force to discredit me.

by **crusader** 07.10.24 13:19

I wonder why they don't want the truth to come out.

by **Jill Havern** 07.10.24 13:30

Maybe cos their own theories are dismantled.

by **crusader** 07.10.24 13:40

That could very well be true. I would just like the truth to come out and end the mystery of what happened to Madeleine.
I'm happy for any of my theories to be trashed in the name of truth.

by **BerntS** 07.10.24 13:47

When you spend 17 years with a fantasy, it's hard to let him go.
They want the truth, just not by someone who "only" spent 7 years on site and who didn't study other people's work and rather did his own puzzle from only the evidence.
They find that rude.

by **PeterMac** 07.10.24 14:05

Nina wrote:If Madeleine had had an accident on the Sunday why wouldn't she be hospitalised though? Surely as parents, let alone senior medics, they would have had her checked over. It was at this time though when the McCanns breakfasts and lunches changed to them being alone in their own apartment not mixing with the rest of the group and their children which I always found so odd.

Not if she was dead as a result of the accident, found in the morning for example before breakfast.

AND THEN They cannot be seen as a family ever again. Hence the back way to the creche, the nonsense of K leavinf through the patio door with 'some' children and G through the front door, breakfast and lunch alone and all the rest we looked at when we were focussing on Sunday night/ Monday morning

by Justice for Maddie 07.10.24 14:06

How sad would that be, if she had an accident on Sunday and died on Wednesday, because they thought she would survive.

That's why all holiday photos of Maddie are from Saturday (playground photos) and Sunday (pool photo, Lolita photo and tennis balls photo).
But I'm not sure about the tennis balls photo.

https://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2016/08/chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo.html?m=1

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by Justice for Maddie 07.10.24 14:28

PeterMac wrote:
Nina wrote:If Madeleine had had an accident on the Sunday why wouldn't she be hospitalised though? Surely as parents, let alone senior medics, they would have had her checked over. It was at this time though when the McCanns breakfasts and lunches changed to them being alone in their own apartment not mixing with the rest of the group and their children which I always found so odd.

Not if she was dead as a result of the accident, found in the morning for example before breakfast.

AND THEN They cannot be seen as a family ever again. Hence the back way to the creche, the nonsense of K leavinf through the patio door with 'some' children and G through the front door, breakfast and lunch alone and all the rest we looked at when we were focussing on Sunday night/ Monday morning

And what about Maddie's crying on Tuesday night?

by **Nina** 07.10.24 14:29

Justice for Maddie wrote:How sad would that be, if she had an accident on Sunday and died on Wednesday, because they thought she would survive. That's why all holiday photos of Maddie are from Saturday (playground photos) and Sunday (pool photo, Lolita photo and tennis balls photo).
But I'm not sure about the tennis balls photo.

https://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2016/08/chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo.html?m=1

If that were the case though where would they keep her, how would they care for her without anyone realising. It is manslaughter at the very least.

by **Nina** 07.10.24 14:34

crusader wrote:I wonder why they don't want the truth to come out.

EGO.

by Justice for Maddie 07.10.24 14:49

Nina wrote:
Justice for Maddie wrote:How sad would that be, if she had an accident on Sunday and died on Wednesday, because they thought she would survive. That's why all holiday photos of Maddie are from Saturday (playground photos) and Sunday (pool photo, Lolita photo and tennis balls photo).
But I'm not sure about the tennis balls photo.

https://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2016/08/chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo.html?m=1

If that were the case though where would they keep her, how would they care for her without anyone realising. It is manslaughter at the very least.

They are all doctors or from the medical field. Maybe someone from the Tapas 7 helped? It's just a theory.

by Justice for Maddie 07.10.24 14:54

crusader wrote:I wonder why they don't want the truth to come out.

That's the big question (reputation etc.). But I fear the truth is darker than just an accident (SA etc.).

by **CaKeLoveR** 07.10.24 15:01

Nina wrote:If Madeleine had had an accident on the Sunday why wouldn't she be hospitalised though? Surely as parents, let alone senior medics, they would have had her checked over. It was at this time though when the McCanns breakfasts and lunches changed to them being alone in their own apartment not mixing with the rest of the group and their children which I always found so odd.

You are looking at it from the point of view of a decent person, Nina. You (none of us) would leap immediately into me first mode, you would indeed do everything possible to revive or help your little daughter. Putting yourself first wouldn't enter your head.

by **BerntS** 07.10.24 15:07

If they thought she'd survive a Sunday accident, they would have just taken her out from the daily creche system and come up with a story, not risking everything based on a 20 year old nanny and faking records for days, as the added risk would not have served a purpose.

And the nanny would not have leaked uncertainty of 5 or 6 children walking to the beach, if she hadn't been there since Sunday.

The only reason for faking creche records is if she's dead. If injured, they could just say she was sick.
The tennis ball photo was taken on Tuesday and she cried for 75 minutes on Tuesday night.

Keep it simple.

by Jojo1 07.10.24 15:24

crusader wrote:I wonder why they don't want the truth to come out.

I think Bernt may be referring to people on the Facebook groups who have done lots of research and analyses of the MM case who are trying to discredit Bernt, not the pro McCanns. That was my understanding of what Bernt meant. The bitching and ego tripping and disrespectful comments about Bernts work was disgusting and why Nina and I left.

Am I right in thinking, this is whom you are referring to Bernt?

by Clishmaclaver 07.10.24 17:56

BerntS wrote:If they thought she'd survive a Sunday accident, they would have just taken her out from the daily creche system and come up with a story, not risking everything based on a 20 year old nanny and faking records for days, as the added risk would not have served a purpose.

And the nanny would not have leaked uncertainty of 5 or 6 children walking to the beach, if she hadn't been there since Sunday.

The only reason for faking creche records is if she's dead. If injured, they could just say she was sick.
The tennis ball photo was taken on Tuesday and she cried for 75 minutes on Tuesday night.

Keep it simple.

Yesterday, I came across something I had either seen and forgotten about over the years, or had never seen at all. It is on this wonderfully comprehensive forum, of course, and on HiDeHo and others. Have a 'google' at it and you'll see what I mean. Probably many of you will remember about it, in any case.

J.T. was in contact with a Dr. Flaxman (Paxman, Claxman, Taxman, Postman, Candlestickman .......!) at 8.21 a.m. on the 2nd May. She received a reply at 10.05 a.m. This person was at Exeter Uni and is a DNA expert, who has worked with the FSS.

Most of us, if not all, know that K made a flurry of calls on the a.m. of Wed. 2nd.

What do you think of that?

by **AnneCGuedes** 07.10.24 18:14

Clishmaclaver wrote:Most of us, if not all, know that K made a flurry of calls on the a.m. of Wed. 2nd.

What do you think of that?

On Tuesday pm to her friend/helper Amanda.

by **BerntS** 07.10.24 18:33

They understood Maddie had cried a long time on Tuesday when they were at Chaplin's, so Kate wanted to increase dosage but wanted an opinion perhaps from her friend's husband, the pathologist... Calling on Wednesday am.

Kate did pm calls during her check on Tuesday before returning to tapas or Chaplin's. where she might have been upset with Gerry's flirting or him running off to watch champions league football, so Kate's tone scared Maddie and she woke up. That's why I think she called for daddy and not mommy.
Crime Knight concludes that is proof that Kate attacked Maddie as revenge from Gerry flirting with miss Boobie. That's a rediculous deduction, since there's a simpler and more plausible explanation.

by Clishmaclaver 07.10.24 18:43

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Clishmaclaver wrote:Most of us, if not all, know that K made a flurry of calls on the a.m. of Wed. 2nd.

What do you think of that?

On Tuesday pm to her friend/helper Amanda.

From what I've read, K called Amanda C. (pathologist's wife and friend/helper) at 7.36. 41 on the Wed. a.m. and then at 7.36.45. The call was returned at 7.50 a.m. K's calls were made about 2hrs earlier than those of other mornings.

On the Tues. evening, K's phone was activated 6 times, in rapid fire, between 22.16 and 22.27 after she had returned from the Tapas to 5A.

This is supposed to have happened 14 mins. before the crying started.

Calls, of course, were deleted.

P.J. Files

P.J. Files

by **AnneCGuedes** 07.10.24 20:10

On Tuesday evening, K called Amanda many times as she was furious about the quiz girl having been invited to their table by G. Yes, she likely woke M up, hence the crying and Daddy calling.

by Clishmaclaver 07.10.24 21:23

BerntS wrote:They understood Maddie had cried a long time on Tuesday when they were at Chaplin's, so Kate wanted to increase dosage but wanted an opinion perhaps from her friend's husband, the pathologist... Calling on Wednesday am.

Kate did pm calls during her check on Tuesday before returning to tapas or Chaplin's. where she might have been upset with Gerry's flirting or him running off to watch champions league football, so Kate's tone scared Maddie and she woke up. That's why I think she called for daddy and not mommy.
Crime Knight concludes that is proof that Kate attacked Maddie as revenge from Gerry flirting with miss Boobie. That's a rediculous deduction, since there's a simpler and more plausible explanation.

Interesting!

It doesn't say much for the two qualified anaesthetists present!

by Clishmaclaver 07.10.24 22:00

AnneCGuedes wrote:On Tuesday evening, K called Amanda many times as she was furious about the quiz girl having been invited to their table by G. Yes, she likely woke M up, hence the crying and Daddy calling.

How do you know that she called Amanda on the Tues. evening?

by **AnneCGuedes** 07.10.24 22:10

Clishmaclaver wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:On Tuesday evening, K called Amanda many times as she was furious about the quiz girl having been invited to their table by G. Yes, she likely woke M up, hence the crying and Daddy calling.

How do you know that she called Amanda on the Tues. evening?

I think Amanda's nb appears in the PJFiles call registers. No time now to check.

by **Silentscope** 07.10.24 23:39

On Wednesday 2nd May 2007, Kate McCann called her friend 'Amanda' at 7.36.41 and again at 7.36.45. This was around two hours earlier than any of mobile activations on any other morning: so Kate McCann was 'up with the larks'. Amanda returned the calls at 7.50. There is no record of how long any of these calls lasted or whether they were SMSs. They were all deleted from memory.

Source: https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DELETED_CALLS.htm

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