Re: BRICK Reviews

by **Ladyinred** 02.09.24 21:16

What members, or do you mean Facebook members?

by **Jill Havern** 02.09.24 21:17

Let's face it, he wouldn't do another podcast with James English just to say the same stuff as last time.

by Justice for Maddie 02.09.24 21:18

Will the new podcast be in September? Can't wait.

by Jojo1 02.09.24 21:19

Ladyinred wrote:What members, or do you mean Facebook members?

Yes Facebook group members

by **Jill Havern** 02.09.24 21:19

Yes, I think Peter said September or October - can't quite remember now.

by **Nina** 02.09.24 21:22

Ladyinred wrote:That's quite shocking, Nina, banning for supporting a book and its author. How oppressive is that?.

Facebook is a world I'm totally unfamiliar with. Are there many Madeleine groups out there? I know Jill has one, is it similar to this forum?

Yes there are a few and also a few pro McCann groups too. I have never seen before what is happening now though. It's taken over what the groups have been like before which was good practise. I want no part of it.

by Jojo1 02.09.24 21:23

Jill Havern wrote:Let's face it, he wouldn't do another podcast with James English just to say the same stuff as last time.

Oooh I'm excited to hear that he is doing another with James English

by **Ladyinred** 02.09.24 21:30

Nina wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:That's quite shocking, Nina, banning for supporting a book and its author. How oppressive is that?.

Facebook is a world I'm totally unfamiliar with. Are there many Madeleine groups out there? I know Jill has one, is it similar to this forum?
Yes there are a few and also a few pro McCann groups too. I have never seen before what is happening now though. It's taken over what the groups have been like before which was good practise. I want no part of it.

Bernt has ruffled a few feathers, then. Isn't that what usually happens when there are developments in the case, particularly this one, involving an "outsider" like Bern t who can potentially cause problems for those involved in the disappearance.

by Jojo1 02.09.24 21:34

Jill Havern wrote:Mine is The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann...spookily enough.

Just aswell I've got some admin though, cos I'm banned from Facebook.

I am going to check if I am a member on your Facebook group Jill.

Oops indeed. Can't get over you being banned from facebook. Have you been Carter rucked?

by **Nina** 02.09.24 21:36

Ladyinred wrote:
Nina wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:That's quite shocking, Nina, banning for supporting a book and its author. How oppressive is that?.

Facebook is a world I'm totally unfamiliar with. Are there many Madeleine groups out there? I know Jill has one, is it similar to this forum?
Yes there are a few and also a few pro McCann groups too. I have never seen before what is happening now though. It's taken over what the groups have been like before which was good practise. I want no part of it.

Bernt has ruffled a few feathers, then. Isn't that what usually happens when there are developments in the case, particularly this one, involving an "outsider" like Bern t who can potentially cause problems for those involved in the disappearance.

Oh we expect that but this latest is from supposed pro Madeleine groups and really is sickening watching all the attempts to score points and the brown nosing, if you will excuse my crudeness.

by **Ladyinred** 02.09.24 21:46

Perhaps some groups have been infiltrated by troublemakers.

by **Jill Havern** 02.09.24 21:47

Jojo1 wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:Mine is The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann...spookily enough.

Just aswell I've got some admin though, cos I'm banned from Facebook.

I am going to check if I am a member on your Facebook group Jill.

Oops indeed. Can't get over you being banned from facebook. Have you been Carter rucked?

Nope, I've been Zuckerberged...for posting Vernon Coleman videos...it's been well over a year now.

by **Silentscope** 02.09.24 22:31

https://www.weforum.org/people/mark-zuckerberg/

On the Dark side he is...

by **Jill Havern** 02.09.24 22:42

He's vile

So was that twitter geezer before Elon took over.

by **AnneCGuedes** 02.09.24 22:52

PeterMac wrote:
As Gerry told us "Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand. An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended"

But these aren't G's words, they were dictated to him by Jim Gamble who revealed it in the 2019 Netflix doc. JG was ‘suspicious’ of the couple, G was his target. While arguing it was a good message to send to the kidnapper, JG built a trap. JG didn't seem to understand that G, first and foremost a pragmatist, wouldn't waste energy lamenting the past. JG believed that he could get G to confess his involvement in his daughter's disappearance without seeing that Gerald would not be affected because he had faced up to what had happened and moved on. G said he regretted not having been there to protect his daughter but, unable to do anything about it, he was moving on and concentrating on whatever he could to find her. So G published JG's words as if they had come from him. Was he afraid of being misunderstood and did he delete his blog for this reason? As usual, JG offered no explicit reason why he changed his mind from anti-MC to staunchly pro-MC.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4055161/madeleine-mccann-dad-gerry-investigator-messages-disappearance-netflix/

by **AnneCGuedes** 02.09.24 22:58

Cake Lover wrote:I think if there was a sudden impulse, it was G. McCann's self preservation leaping to the front. Look after me first.

Preservation of what was left of the family/career/life style must have passed his mind very quickly.

by **AnneCGuedes** 02.09.24 23:10

crusader wrote:From Pat Brown

I have seen a number of comments pointing out this or that in Bernt’s book that I did not address. Unless I went through his book and commented on each and every statement, I simply could not include everything in this video. My purpose was to address the main issues: why May 2nd makes little sense, why Smithman is still the most important clue, and why where her body is buried does not matter unless it is found. This is why I urge people to read more, especially if you have never read my book or Amaral’s, you may not understand the major issues.
Show less

Up to BS's time and manner of removal of the body, he's less inaccurate, more precise than PB who hasn't read enough the PJFiles I'm afraid. Had she taken seriously experiences with cadaver dogs, she wouldn't stick to May 3rd (imo).

by **AnneCGuedes** 03.09.24 0:26

Argumentum ad personam is never a good idea.

by pinkgladioli 03.09.24 8:23

2nd May 2024 in Portugal
Bernt Stellander press conference re the book Sudden Impulse takes place

2nd May 2024 London
Ex PM Gordon Brown writes to Police demanding investigation into News International he does an interview with Robert Peston ITV, he makes a point of mentioning Madeleine McCann Case =
“You’ve got to look at the Madeleine McCann case, was News International and were there journalists and were the Private Investigators involved in invading the privacy at the moment of their greatest grief at the moment they were their most vulnerable

3rd May 2024
The Mccann’s fail to turn up at the anniversary service held annually for their Daughters dissapearance

25th July 2024
Gerry McCann rears his ugly head wanting the new Labour Government wanting to open an enquiry into Leveson part 2

August 1st 2024
James English interview with Bernt Stellander is released on YouTube 4 weeks in and it has already attracted 1.1million views

September 1st 2024
In the last couple of weeks we have seen attempts to discredit Bernt Stellander

by **PeterMac** 03.09.24 8:31

Pat is fixated on Smithman and it runing the risk of 'interpreting' the bits of evidence we have to fit her hypothesis
Like Clarke has done, and Wolters for that matter.

If I understand her position correctly, Smithman = Gerry carries the body down to the rocks just south of the Smithman point, hides her under an upturned boat, and tehn niops back ot the Tapas in time for the next Act

THEN - and this is the killer - he or they return during the night, retrieve the body and carry it along the beach to Rocha Negra where they hide it again.

I make no observation about the Full moon, cloudless sky, number of Police and tourists and dogs searching everywhere, fishing boats in the bay from around 3am, Smithman timing 9;58pm at the earliest, Alarm timing anywhere from 9:30pm to 10pm. or a lot more.

I am not saying it is wrong. I just don't see how it can work. And I see NO evidence for any of it.

by pinkgladioli 03.09.24 8:45

Is it known what date the Smith’s first contacted the Police re the sighting they reported ?
Did they report what they say they seen, was it the 4th May directly after their Daughter in Ireland contacted them or later?

I know there police statement states 26 May did he report it before then?

by **crusader** 03.09.24 10:02

I'm not saying Pat B is right, I just don't know, but let's go along with it to see if what she say's could work.
The first part where Gerry or whoever put's Madeleine under an upturned boat on the beach, possible.
The second part where they went back later, removed Madeleine and hid her somewhere else, also possible.
The searches were called off at 4am, Kate said her and Gerry waited until daylight and then went out to search, it's possible they removed Madeleines body then.
But hiding the body under an upturned boat is risky, if Gerry could lift it, so could a man involved in the search and the search did include the beach area.
People in the search said they opened bins and looked behind walls, surely someone would have looked under a boat.
At the time the search was for a missing child, a perfect hiding place for a live child would be under a boat.

by pinkgladioli 03.09.24 10:13

For a live child?

Personally if I was part of a search for a missing child which included a beach area with boats it’s one the first places I would look to search

by Cake Lover 03.09.24 10:24

P.B. is a criminal profiler; perhaps a geographic profiler would have a better idea of the hiding, and subsequent hiding pace?

by **Bluebagthepirate** 03.09.24 10:50

Why do people still think Gerry was walking around with a high risk of meeting someone like had happened to him 45 minutes earlier?

I don't get it.

by **crusader** 03.09.24 11:05

pinkgladioli wrote
For a live child?

Yes, the searchers thought that they were looking for a child that had wandered off.
So at that point nobody suspected that Madeleine was dead.
They could have thought she was hiding somewhere, under a boat maybe.

by **crusader** 03.09.24 11:08

Bluebag wrote
Why do people still think Gerry was walking around with a high risk of meeting someone like had happened to him 45 minutes earlier?

I don't get it.

Somebody was walking around with a child though.

by pinkgladioli 03.09.24 11:10

To be honest I don’t get it either, not only the risk of meeting someone, but allegedly walking in a downward direction with a corpse in tow on roads and pavements that some are made up of small Portuguese paving tiles that your constantly watching your feet as they can be lethal and feel slippy underfoot even wearing sensible shoes

I also don’t get if this sighting is seen as being so important why it was the 26 May before the Smiths gave statements
Did they report the sighting straight after being contacted by their daughter who was in Ireland on the 4th May?
Or wait until they were back in Ireland before doing so?
Or have they made previous earlier statement held back by the PJ?

by **Nina** 03.09.24 11:28

I hope this link will open. Lots of photographs of the fishing boats of the Algarve. Now how the devil can Gerry lift one of these over to secrete a child under I find impossible. Maybe it's owner can because he has the knack, the brawn and the history of doing it but not Gerry despite all his keep fit regimes.

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/algarve-fishing-boat.html?sortBy=relevant

by **crusader** 03.09.24 11:34

Perhaps a small fiberglass canoe would have been possible but anyone looking for a missing child would look under there.
I'm inclined to think it never happened.
And the ego's would have been on display, any of the searchers that night would have wanted to be the one to find her.
They would have left "No boat unturned"

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