Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

by Silentscope 21.01.22 10:30

According to TV - Programm 31.01.22 there will be a Film on SAT1?

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There has been an 0800 number published for the phone in though.

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by Guest 21.01.22 13:40

on their own program the have it listed;

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on 31 january

20:15
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SAT.1 INVESTIGATIV: NEUE SPUREN IM FALL MADDIE. IST DER DEUTSCHE CHRISTIAN B. DER TÄTER?

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Ist der Deutsche Christian B. verantwortlich für das Verschwinden von Madeleine McCann? In der Dokumentation "SAT.1 investigativ: Neue Spuren im Fall Maddie. Ist der Deutsche Christian B. der Täter?" legt ein internationales Reporter:innen-Team Hinweise und Indizien vor, die den Verdacht gegen den mutmaßlichen Täter Christian B. erhärten.
and directly after it;
22:15

SAT.1 INVESTIGATIV - DER TALK: NEUE ERKENNTNISSE IM FALL MADDIE

Im Anschluss an "SAT.1 investigativ: Neue Spuren im Fall Maddie. Ist der Deutsche Christian B. der Täter?" begrüßt Claudia von Brauchitsch in der Expert:innen-Runde "SAT.1 investigativ - der Talk: Neue Erkenntnisse im Fall Maddie" die für die Dokumentation verantwortliche Investigativ-Journalistin Jutta Rabe und weitere Gäste. Die Zuschauer:innen haben ab 21:00 Uhr die Möglichkeit, unter der kostenfreien Telefonnummer 0800-5003200 Fragen an die Gäste im Studio zu stellen.
the common site with tv listings got the programs most times pretty early on, but not all are good in keeping up to date. this is from sat 1 their own site.
maybe you can make a nice compilation of facts spoken off?

by Guest 21.01.22 13:43

o dear, i forgot the translation;

SAT.1 INVESTIGATIV: NEW LEADS IN THE MADDIE CASE. IS GERMAN CHRISTIAN B. THE PERPETRATOR?

Is the German Christian B. responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann? In the documentary "SAT.1 investigativ: Neue Spuren im Fall Maddie. Is the German Christian B. the perpetrator?", an international team of reporters presents clues and circumstantial evidence that substantiate the suspicions against the alleged perpetrator Christian B.
and directly after it;
22:15

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SAT.1 INVESTIGATIV - THE TALK: NEW FINDINGS IN THE MADDIE CASE

Following "SAT.1 investigativ: New leads in the Maddie case. Is the German Christian B. the perpetrator?" Claudia von Brauchitsch welcomes the investigative journalist Jutta Rabe, who is responsible for the documentary, and other guests in the expert round "SAT.1 investigativ - der Talk: Neue Erkenntnisse im Fall Maddie". Viewers will have the opportunity to ask questions to the guests in the studio from 9 p.m. onwards by calling the free telephone number 0800-5003200.
the common site with tv listings got the programs most times pretty early on, but not all are good in keeping up to date. this is from sat 1 their own site.
maybe you can make a nice compilation of facts spoken off?

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all times are german winter time

by **PeterMac** 21.01.22 13:55

What the case needs is one, just ONE, person asking what evidence they have for Abduction between 2125 and 2135 on 3/5/7

by Silentscope 21.01.22 18:32

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Or some ‘Concrete Evidence’?

by **Jill Havern** 22.01.22 14:12

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From facebewk:

Shared on behalf of Angi Watts

Sat 1 is a German based TV channel they are doing a documentary on Madeleine and Christian Brueckner.
Angi went on their Facebook page on their article about the documentary and left a comment about the Portuguese police, Eddie and Keela alerts, and the British police still class Madeleine as a missing child not a homicide etc.
When Angi went back on they had deleted her comments and stopped her from commenting.
So what are the Germans up to why are they trying to shut her up by doing this.
I think our groups should go and leave comments by supporting Madeleine and Goncalo Amaral it seems they are wanting to set Brueckner up.

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by Silentscope 22.01.22 14:27

Verdächtigung die Eltern ist Verboten.
Suspecting the Parents is Forbidden.

But.

If this Charade goes all the way to Court, Gerry, Kate, and everyone else will receive an Invitation as Witness. Their ‘Mitschuld’ Culpability for leaving the Children unattended would be addressed.

Brückner or his Defending team would be allowed Questions.

It looks like it will be a ‘Kangaroo’ Court anyway…

Suppression of the DNA/Hair and Medical reports from the Diana M trial prove it.

by Silentscope 23.01.22 13:54

For Members that want to watch the SAT1 production in HD, I recommend the following Internet source:

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If that is Geoblocked in your location you will need to select a German IP address on your VPN.

SAT1 is also available on Astra 19.2E Satellite and is not scrambled.

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by **sharonl** 23.01.22 18:28

Jill Havern wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

From facebewk:

Shared on behalf of Angi Watts

Sat 1 is a German based TV channel they are doing a documentary on Madeleine and Christian Brueckner.
Angi went on their Facebook page on their article about the documentary and left a comment about the Portuguese police, Eddie and Keela alerts, and the British police still class Madeleine as a missing child not a homicide etc.
When Angi went back on they had deleted her comments and stopped her from commenting.
So what are the Germans up to why are they trying to shut her up by doing this.
I think our groups should go and leave comments by supporting Madeleine and Goncalo Amaral it seems they are wanting to set Brueckner up.

OK, let's see if it stays

The German police would first need to prove that an abduction actually took place, this is highly unlikely. Then they would need to establish a point of entry, and a point of exit. Furthermore, they would need to explain all the evidence that points towards Madeleine dying in the apartment. MMRG, after much research, unanimously concluded that Madeleine dies 4 days earlier on April 29th. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

by **Jill Havern** 23.01.22 18:33

^^^^

by **Jill Havern** 24.01.22 11:54

Witness claims Madeleine McCann suspect was with her before and after disappearance

The German witness, who was living in Portugal in 2007, believes Christian Brueckner was miles away from Praia da Luz in Portugal on the day Madeleine McCann went missing from a resort there
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Christian Brueckner, the prime suspect

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A new witness has come forward in the case of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Madeleine McCann claiming to have been with the prime suspect just before and after she disappeared, it is reported.
The new witness reportedly insists [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] was calm while she was with him and says they were stopped by police who reported no suspicious activity.

The German witness, who was living in Portugal in 2007, believes Brueckner was miles away from Praia da Luz in Portugal on the day Madeleine went missing from a resort there.
A source told [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] "She says she was not with him the day Madeleine disappeared but spoke with him and again said he seemed normal."
The source said: "This testimony could be an issue."

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Madeleine was just three-years-old when she vanished (
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This comes just days after German journalists who were investigating the case claimed they have uncovered “shocking” evidence which “heavily incriminates” Brueckner.
British youngster Madeleine was just three-years-old when she vanished from her parents’ holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007.
German prosecutors claim to have evidence she is dead and named convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner as their only suspect.
Despite going public with the information in June 2020, they have still not charged him with any offence.

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Kate and Gerry McCann, whose daughter Madeleine disappeared (
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But now a team working for TV channel Sat.1 have handed the evidence to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] probing Brueckner over the infamous case.
Sat.1 investigators claim to have found fresh evidence linking Brueckner, who denies any involvement, to the crime.
They will reveal more information about their investigation in a prime-time documentary, which is yet to have an air date.

Announcing the show, Sat.1 said journalist Jutta Rabe and a team of reporters gathered new information about Brueckner.
They claim it includes proof he was near Praia da Luz when Madeleine vanished while her parents dined in a tapas restaurant.
The channel said they collected “many new clues and indications” that corroborate the suspicions of German prosecutors.

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by Silentscope 24.01.22 15:13

The likely options appear to be:

1. Cigarette ends found near the Apartment were apparently not tested for DNA.
2. Some Fingerprints found on the Shutters could not be identified.
3. Half a Fingerprint from Brückner was stored on a PJ Computer, which was lifted from a Knife used to threaten Hazel B.
4. A SIM or Memory card found buried in the Box factory was allegedly stolen from
an OC Apartment previous to the disappearance.
5. The DNA found on the spare Bed was not sent to the BKA for Testing, as it belonged to a previous Resident of 5A. Definitely not from Brückner.
6. Another letter from Brückner has turned up in Adverts for the SAT1 show, but reveals little. It appears to be dated from 2021, and is addressed to the Reporter in charge.

What date and time is the M W-T Channel 5 show screening?

by Guest 24.01.22 16:49

the german police not only raided the old box factory in neuwegersleben, but also at a living address from cb.

as far as the papers go back, it looks like they used the complaints about stench and garbage on that box factory property to get in, but that would not be something you would go in for that only with so many officers, but the already had cb as a possible suspect for child porn. the same story, without the suspect part, and the findings as accidental just painted a bit different story.

what they had was possibly not enough to raid this place, or his living address.
so after they got a hit under the dead dog, they could also raid his home, i found nothing about that home, but made him living in that factory less likely.

this what they told the press they did find at the time;

„Da der Verdacht der Kinderpornographie besteht, führt die Zentralstelle bei der Staatsanwaltschaft Halle die gesamten Ermittlungen. Es wird eine Weile dauern, bis sichergestellte Mobiltelefone, Datenträger und Computer ausgewertet sind.“

translation to english;

"Since child pornography is suspected, the central office at the public prosecutor's office in Halle is conducting the entire investigation. It will take a while until seized mobile phones, data carriers and computers are evaluated."

this is from bild, there is also a far shorter story on a more local site.

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this happened before the bka got their hands on him. there have been many findings of child porn, lots of networks that got a lot of international intention.

on the other side, we have indeed a story of a recent break in in block 5 ;

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She says that as far as she can remember, during the years that she has worked at the resort, she knows of some thefts from inside the apartments and most recently on 16th April 2007 there was a theft from an apartment in Block 5 L, from where a plasma display screen, credit cards and a mobile phone belonging to the respective guests were taken.
As far as she knows, as she prepared the papers for the insurance company, the theft took place at the end of the day and according to the guests the event happened when they had left for dinner after completing check in and having left their suitcases in the apartment.

She says that she does not remember having been told that doors or windows had been forced, the guests having said that they had just left the door on the latch, however she is not certain.
When asked, she says that she was never told of the existence of any suspects or where those responsible for the theft had been identified.
When asked, she replies that she has no knowledge of strange or unknown individuals who have been stopped or seen inside or outside of the resort during the time that she has worked there.

so yes a phone from that event could have been ended up at the box factory, or even only the simcard.

it could reading from this statement meant, the portuguese police has no knowledge of these type of break ins. and again, it could have been because the insurance was also afilliated to mark warner. and from that would not ask for a police report.

by Silentscope 24.01.22 17:59

The attempts to join the six points I listed above to Brückner all seem to come from known ‘Pro’ sources.

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Refers to the Cigarettes. Being pushed by Heriberto Janosch Gonzales.

The SIM card and half a Fingerprint story comes from the Olive press.
Being pushed by Jon Clarke.

It all points to them attempting to link the PJ Files, which are viewed as FACT to the AGENDA they wish to support?

‘What do you do when you are in a hole, and can’t get out?’
‘Dig deeper.’

by Guest 24.01.22 20:25

not in germany, they have hardly any sandy beaches to do that. they are professionals, they read books.

who we once upon a time will known as the criminal afairs of cb.

all they are doing is getting the cases together to the stories in the memoirs of cb. on their own, they are nothing. they started working on them after the raid of the box factory and the home address he used there, it must have been just a place he stayed, but was not officially registered, so the bka could take the case over, because last known legal address was in the region braunzweig.

they have to first prove the connection to other cases he did write about, to make it more plausible his tale about what happened with madeleine must also be true. they have nothing that in any direct possible way binds him to the case mccann.

these sigaret buds are indeed on the heriberto blogs, the man with the pillow climbing a window also, and the van on the satellite pictures from google. and long time a go he did write he found at some place in the stairwells of block six a hole lot of those budds. he also was very sure 3 people working for the ocean club had done it. he is a bit windy in his theorizing.

please jon clark is not a pro, never been, never will be one. i wouldn't let that one near a roll of toilet pape, without ink!
you can not even joke about that.

and even if the 6th of may a brave, but very very unlucky police officer had gotten the task to get the budds in the bag, the british labs would only could have done some more inconclusives.

and the unknown tumb prints on the shutters, a must see for that one; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJLmyakzeE dispatches oktober 2007.

also the unknown fingerprints, there is some quite nice information available, some where usable for comparison, some not. and not only in portugal!

the finger prints in the files;

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and germany;

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this one has no translation near it.

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the translation of the second one 963, did tell at least something;

Date: 11/05/2007

To: The Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation, DIC, Portimao

Subject: Madeleine Beth McCann

Following the collection of samples from the Ocean Club, Praia da Luz da L, which we sent to all Interpol offices, we inform you that:

The Interpol General Secretariat Interpol, IPSG Lyon, has informed us that these samples are unknown in the IPSG database.

IP Wiesbaden informed us that two of the samples cannot be used for comparison, the other was possible for comparison, nothing being found in our files. However IP Wiesbaden states that this sample could have been left by a woman or a youth, but not by a small girl.

With compliments.

GNI Chief

Ana Mafalda Duarte

so for that germany doesn't need something from portugal, they only have to look were it is stored. they must have enough finger prints from cb to look again. the germans got then all through interpol.

if germany in 2007 could not tell these prints could be from cb, and the pj neigter, who would have his prints on file from the 2016 diesel theft.
also each country has its own guidelines for what is an acceptable identification, in dna portugal had a very high treshold, so if more modern techniques could be used, it does not even mean they could be usable in portugal, and germany would their own threshold. we used 12 points for a standard identification, but less was possible, and it was not only the positive points, but you also have to look for points that certainly so not belong to that persons prints. so even if you find 13 the same points, if number 14 was a faulty one, you had not the right person. but 6 equal points and a pretty unique one could work. and the forensics services get usually a percentage of to be from a specific source.

but looking again would not harm.

a bigger mystery is stil, where are the prints from gerry mccann and diane webster, who both say the tested and tried the shutters from the outside.

by Silentscope 24.01.22 20:50

I am guessing that Brückner would have been fully processed by the ID Department of the PJ on Arrest for the Diesel theft.

Latest when he arrived in Prison thereafter.

He was no unwritten page before the disappearance.

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 10:39

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They are all trapped by the McCann's insistence on Thursday 3/5/7 between 9:25pm and 9:35 pm

by Silentscope 25.01.22 11:14

Strange how the German Justice system, and supporting Media outlets are all still following the ‘Brückner did it’ routine.

And the British Media now seem to be back pedalling, with Ch5 saying he was nowhere near the ‘Abduction’ at the time.

Looks like they do not want it to go to Court?
No prizes for guessing why that may be…

by Silentscope 25.01.22 17:33

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A few days ago, Sat.1 announced that it intends to continue its investigative series on January 31. The broadcaster then wants to deal with Maddie McCann, who disappeared almost 15 years ago ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ). Vox has now announced a similar documentary, which will be shown on Wednesday 26.01.21. on 20:15 German time. UTC/GMT +1.

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by Guest 25.01.22 19:34

silenthope, do you have a direct link to where that letter that jutta showed in the preview, or do you know if their is a screenshot. is the date on the letter known?

the sun has even a liveblog.

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most is old reproductions. filled with some fresh snippits.

the fresh bits come together in this part;

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by Silentscope 25.01.22 20:28

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by Silentscope 26.01.22 16:12

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I have cut the above to size, enlarged and enhanced it, but still cannot read it properly.

by Guest 26.01.22 17:45

anja could be anja p. aka silke and behind it on that post it could be bruder, brother.

the rest is meant to not read by public. the one on the earlier screenshot was readable for a bit, at least to be from cb, it starts with a bit of a rant about his former lawyer, after that i can only read bka, that must be his common rant about how the bka use faul play to link him into the diane m. case with the hair portugal couldn't find, he did not to all those nasty thinks the tell about him. an on and on.

most witnesses would have been at least for a time been part of an underground society, some only for a summer, others that stayed on, had hardly roots in their homelands, some could even have made something of themselves, but most from the inner crowd of cb would have lived exactly like him. semi-homeless, very low budgets.

we already had helge b. manfred s, the austrian michael t., nicole f., n. m. not exactly a bunch of quality in the witness stands.

and these people or the likes of then are going to tell us, they know their friend grabbed kids, killed one at least, they are sure about it, but none of those was able to find out the in the last 20 years heavily promoted phone numbers, that are out there to tell your story in anonymity, they all missed just the endless calls for information of this case, they even closed up when there was money to made, and know they know.

they all know were he was, he was not on that place some others say, but if they know, they only can now if they were together with cb. they know he had that phone, they can only know, if they were there with him and that phone. did someone told them they are actually give him exactly what he needs, an alibi.

but first things first vox is the start of the fresh season of the cashmachine, also formerly known as madeleine mccann. jon clarke ready, the sun ready, or the daily mail, or the mirror, one is more than enough, we already used to read were you read it. bild of course, der spiegel, belgium with nieuwsblad and hln, the dutch always wait til the next morning so telegraaf and ad don't have to stay awake.

by Guest 26.01.22 20:37

well vox was a complete waist of time, nothing new on the table.

it is very strange to see, that it got very normal to interview people from the media, who themselves already had interviewed people about the case. i know in the uk it is common to ask loraine kelly as an expert about this case, and you can not going any lower than that, but sandra f, yes that sandra and some german reporter of a local paper???

and again the former buddies of cb, who look to have enough to get busy with their own problems and not so nice past. like manfred s, bjorn r.

of course remakes, maybe even just copy-pasted lines of hcw, and mth.

the only one i did not have heard before, and that is mostly because of the geoblocking, was thomas muller.

karin and olivier stenard also did a passing. the german friend were he stayed in the attic for some time.

all in all, none of them told anything new.

the people behind the scenes had some nice days in the sun, driving another volkswagen around playing they were cb on route. they did some touring on the german autobahn too.

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