Re: What really Happened? Part 3 - Gerry

by **Jill Havern** Tue 27 Aug 2024, 4:17 pm

Justice for Maddie wrote:What have UK/Irland, Portugal, Spain/Mallorca in common?: The McCanns live there or were in holiday there. But the interesting fact is that in all these locations there is a big Masonic brotherhood. What do you guys think about the rumor/theory that Gerry is a Freemason? It's a very interesting topic and this brotherhood is very powerful.

Bernt sent his emails to Gerry using Masonic 'codes' and he responded and went to the Hill where he was caught on camera.

Just saying.

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by pinkgladioli Tue 27 Aug 2024, 5:16 pm

Little segments below from Patricia Camerons statement 15 April 2008

I remember asking him for contacts of people in Portugal so we could call them

We went Manchester and stayed at a friends house before catching the first flight of the morning on Sat 5 May 2007

We arrived in Portugal on Saturday morning, where a friend lent us a car to use, and we went to PDL

… it does make you wonder who the contacts and friends actually were and what the chances are of them purchasing tickets on the 33 Bus!

by Cake Lover Tue 27 Aug 2024, 5:21 pm

It's very handy having friends in the appropriate places, isn't it.

by Clishmaclaver Tue 27 Aug 2024, 5:49 pm

The Masonic code mentioned in Bernt's book is, indeed, interesting. Had G still been living in Glasgow, I would tend to think that he wouldn't be a Freemason (think local culture and all that ... !). He would perhaps have been more interested in joining the Catenians (is Uncle B.K. not one?) or the Knights of St. Columba, i.e. if he hadn't been too busy with studying/working/going down south to see K or too young to even consider that sort of scene.

However, G is in England and G is very ambitious!

Freemasonry doesn't prohibit Catholics from joining the fraternity, but the R.C.Church considers membership to be incompatible with the R.C. faith. Freemasons accept the existence of a Supreme Being, and religion is not a criterion for admittance.

Think about the bloodcurdling roars and G prostrating himself on the ground on the night of 3rd May!!!

by Nina Tue 27 Aug 2024, 6:01 pm

Clishmaclaver wrote:The Masonic code mentioned in Bernt's book is, indeed, interesting. Had G still been living in Glasgow, I would tend to think that he wouldn't be a Freemason (think local culture and all that ... !). He would perhaps have been more interested in joining the Catenians (is Uncle B.K. not one?) or the Knights of St. Columba, i.e. if he hadn't been too busy with studying/working/going down south to see K or too young to even consider that sort of scene.

However, G is in England and G is very ambitious!

Freemasonry doesn't prohibit Catholics from joining the fraternity, but the R.C.Church considers membership to be incompatible with the R.C. faith. Freemasons accept the existence of a Supreme Being, and religion is not a criterion for admittance.

Think about the bloodcurdling roars and G prostrating himself on the ground on the night of 3rd May

I wondered why he should prostate himself before the Portuguese police but maybe this could be a clue, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_in_Portugal

by Liz Eagles Tue 27 Aug 2024, 9:05 pm

Nina wrote:
Clishmaclaver wrote:The Masonic code mentioned in Bernt's book is, indeed, interesting. Had G still been living in Glasgow, I would tend to think that he wouldn't be a Freemason (think local culture and all that ... !). He would perhaps have been more interested in joining the Catenians (is Uncle B.K. not one?) or the Knights of St. Columba, i.e. if he hadn't been too busy with studying/working/going down south to see K or too young to even consider that sort of scene.

However, G is in England and G is very ambitious!

Freemasonry doesn't prohibit Catholics from joining the fraternity, but the R.C.Church considers membership to be incompatible with the R.C. faith. Freemasons accept the existence of a Supreme Being, and religion is not a criterion for admittance.

Think about the bloodcurdling roars and G prostrating himself on the ground on the night of 3rd May
I wondered why he should prostate himself before the Portuguese police but maybe this could be a clue, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_in_Portugal

My mother's family were Glaswegian. The men were masons.

by Justice for Maddie Tue 27 Aug 2024, 9:16 pm

Justice for Maddie wrote:What do UK/Ireland, Portugal and Spain/Mallorca have in common?: The McCanns live there or were on holiday there. But the interesting fact is that in all these locations there is a Masonic brotherhood. What do you guys think about the rumor/theory that Gerry is a Freemason? It's a very interesting topic and this brotherhood is very powerful.

History of Freemasonry

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by Justice for Maddie Tue 27 Aug 2024, 9:47 pm

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by Bluebagthepirate Wed 28 Aug 2024, 7:45 am

^^^^^

Seriously, what do they look like! Ridiculous.

by pinkgladioli Wed 28 Aug 2024, 8:49 am

Have a look at their Facebook page
There’s a post from the 27th July that is interesting

by Justice for Maddie Wed 28 Aug 2024, 9:48 am

WOW

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This nugget, gives a variety of explanations for the origin and pronunciation of the word ‘hele’, ending with a relatively definitive one.

United Grand Lodge of England

by pinkgladioli Wed 28 Aug 2024, 10:51 am

I initially thought WOW as well, especially the date it was posted as it was just before Bernt’s interview,
It made me wonder if it was some sort of message being conveyed to like minded others

Thinking about it the post is more than likely just coincidence although on the grand scale of things I deffo will not rule out that there hasn’t been some sort of possible involvement by some sort of secret society

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by Justice for Maddie Wed 28 Aug 2024, 11:35 am

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by Lyall Fri 30 Aug 2024, 8:22 pm

Sorry, I don't know where else to post this. Is the consensus on this forum that she was accidentally killed by the parents who quickly covered it up and then let the British media do the rest

2 Sept 2024

REPLY: By PeterMac

NO. IT ISN'T

by crusader Fri 30 Aug 2024, 8:39 pm

Hi Lyall, I would say welcome but I've got a feeling you wont be here long.

Are you really interested in what happened to Madeline or is your post a casual enquiry?
You clearly have no idea what this forum is about.

by Clishmaclaver Fri 30 Aug 2024, 11:31 pm

Liz Eagles wrote:
Nina wrote:
Clishmaclaver wrote:The Masonic code mentioned in Bernt's book is, indeed, interesting. Had G still been living in Glasgow, I would tend to think that he wouldn't be a Freemason (think local culture and all that ... !). He would perhaps have been more interested in joining the Catenians (is Uncle B.K. not one?) or the Knights of St. Columba, i.e. if he hadn't been too busy with studying/working/going down south to see K or too young to even consider that sort of scene.

However, G is in England and G is very ambitious!

Freemasonry doesn't prohibit Catholics from joining the fraternity, but the R.C.Church considers membership to be incompatible with the R.C. faith. Freemasons accept the existence of a Supreme Being, and religion is not a criterion for admittance.

Think about the bloodcurdling roars and G prostrating himself on the ground on the night of 3rd May
I wondered why he should prostate himself before the Portuguese police but maybe this could be a clue, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_in_Portugal
My mother's family were Glaswegian. The men were masons.

Sorry for the tardy reply. I wasn't implying that Freemasonry doesn't exist in Glasgow or, for that matter, in Scotland - far from it. I was trying to be subtle about the sectarian divide that still lingers in the West of Scotland/Central belt and, of course, N. Ireland.

Have you heard the question 'Whit fit dae ye kick wi'?'

See Tom Minogue.com for a good explanation, albeit with reference to Fife in the East coast!

by pinkgladioli Sat 31 Aug 2024, 8:48 am

IMO both sets of what ever fit you kick with, each have their own clubs that have infiltrated all walks of life, to look after their own, to the detriment of others!

by Clishmaclaver Sat 31 Aug 2024, 9:11 am

pinkgladioli wrote:IMO both sets of what ever fit you kick with, each have their own clubs that have infiltrated all walks of life, to look after their own, to the detriment of others!

Yes! Let's face it, some people will run with the hare and hunt with the hounds to get on in life.

by pinkgladioli Sat 31 Aug 2024, 9:47 am

Clishmaclaver wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:IMO both sets of what ever fit you kick with, each have their own clubs that have infiltrated all walks of life, to look after their own, to the detriment of others!
Yes! Let's face it, some people will run with the hare and hunt with the hounds to get on in life.

I’d agree that in Scotland it very possibly rife,
In the last decade alone there has been reports in newspapers of alleged cronysm involving a certain former Lord Provost in Glesga toon, bearing strong Donegal links,

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