Sir Alan Sugar speaks!

by **Tony Bennett** 02.11.10 21:14

My vote for the 'top' comment to date!

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Name: Sir Alan Sugar on Nov 2, 2010
Comments: Isabel Duarte - YOU'RE FIRED!

by **Tony Bennett** 02.11.10 21:24

YNG wrote:Thx Tony for clarifying this...are you aware that it should be standard proceedure for a Review of a missing peron to take place ?

Long-term cases should be reviewed by a senior detective of at least the rank of chief inspector, who has been trained as an SIO. Reviews should take place every 28 days for the first 3 months, then at 6 months and 12 months intervals, then annually thereafter.

* Review the level of risk;

* Check for any outstanding and incomplete actions;

* Quality assure actions already taken;

* Set new actions and enquiries in order to bring the investigation to a successful conclusion;

* Make recommendations about the management and ownership of the investigation;

* Set future review date(s) as appropriate.

All the above should be recorded as policy decisions within the report.

No I didn't know that, and that's very interesting.

HOWEVER, does this apply if a foreign police force are the 'lead' investigators?

by YNG 02.11.10 21:26

Tony Bennett wrote:
YNG wrote:Thx Tony for clarifying this...are you aware that it should be standard proceedure for a Review of a missing peron to take place ?

Long-term cases should be reviewed by a senior detective of at least the rank of chief inspector, who has been trained as an SIO. Reviews should take place every 28 days for the first 3 months, then at 6 months and 12 months intervals, then annually thereafter.

* Review the level of risk;

* Check for any outstanding and incomplete actions;

* Quality assure actions already taken;

* Set new actions and enquiries in order to bring the investigation to a successful conclusion;

* Make recommendations about the management and ownership of the investigation;

* Set future review date(s) as appropriate.

All the above should be recorded as policy decisions within the report.
No I didn't know that, and that's very interesting.

HOWEVER, does this apply if a foreign police force are the 'lead' investigators?

I would think so as she is classed in the UK as a missing person ?

by Guest 02.11.10 22:06

This is better

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After the recent cancellation of an [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Kate and Gerry McCann are launching tonight, 0h in London, a new media campaign around the case of the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Gerry and Kate leaving the Court of Lisbon in 2009

In an open letter, the parents of Maddie require more support for the Portuguese and British governments could "do more" to find their daughter, who disappeared May 3, 2007 in Praia da Luz in the Algarve region, at southern Portugal.
Kate and Gerry McCann, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]now want the public to sign a petition to put pressure on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and Portuguese to conduct a "review transparent and independent of all information related to the disappearance of Madeleine. "
The announcement of the initiative of the couple was greeted with skepticism by investigators of the Portuguese police who participated in the survey: "it is they themselves who have condemned the investigation by refusing to answer a large number of questions, refusing to clarify details [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], "said an inspector from the PJ in Portugal.
"They have the opportunity to request the reopening of the investigation at any time, and they know it", added the inspector.
Maddie's parents, who had access to records of the investigation through their lawyers, are now providing their "little team" is continuing its review of available data "despite the fact that we do not have access to all information authorities of the United Kingdom and Portugal.
Kate and Gerry McCann, who have remained in almost complete silence until the announcement of the cancellation of the injunction which prohibited Gonçalo Amaral talk about the investigation, lamented today that throughout the last two years, "no police force has actively done something to help find Madeleine."

Silence for some, not others

This new "campaign" is to dismiss that night in the world, several news agencies and newspapers have been instructed to embargoed until tonight.
[color:a88b=#000]In the United Kingdom, where the couple and their close associates continue to have "influence" on most media, recent statements by the former coordinator of the investigation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Goncalo Amaral, n have been no great echo

by poppydog 02.11.10 22:16

My husband signed this about two hours ago, post no 25 or something and used his full name, asking for the case to be reopened and for kate to answer the questions. All gone now, name and comment. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by Shibboleth 02.11.10 22:21

That is because the whole thing is fake. Just like everything else about the McCanns.

by kangdang 02.11.10 22:35

ufercoffy wrote:I think it's a shame that some people are trashing the petition with stupid comments as it'll just give the McCanns and their supporters more ammunition to call us all nutters.

AnnaEsse, the MM moderator, said she just posted this

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I signed it!

Name: Swarthy Pimply Eggman on Nov 2, 2010
Comments: I was framed! Free the Eggman!

I quite agree Ufercoffy, a number of posters from both sides of the fence are showing their true colours - absolute disgrace. They have no interest in the case anymore, Madeleine is nothing more than a morbid past time for them.

by maebee 02.11.10 22:43

Shibboleth wrote:That is because the whole thing is fake. Just like everything else about the McCanns.

I agree Shibb. It has to be a fake petition. There's abbbsoooluuutely no way the Mcs would deliberately set themselves up for
"unhelpful & hurtful" comments. Oh wait, maybe I'll re-think that, almost four years and they still don't get it. They keep digging.
They don't know when to stop. Maybe now is the time when someone else will put a stop to them.

Oh and Halligen in court tomorrow . Coincidence?

by Guest 02.11.10 22:45

Here is the first story to appear in our papers

Madeleine’s mother hits out at ‘fluffy worthless promises’ as appeal fund is set to run dry

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Madeleine McCann’s mother yesterday condemned politicians for their ‘fluffy, worthless’ promises to help find her missing daughter.

The 42-year-old spoke out as she and husband revealed that their multi-million pound appeal fund will run dry within months.

Kate McCann accused the Government of giving up the hunt for the child who went missing shortly before her fourth birthday. She said a series of ministers had shrugged off her pleas for help.
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Tireless: Kate and Gerry McCann have warned the fund to find their missing daughter will run out of money

‘I don’t want to be appeased, and that’s what I feel we’re getting. We need action, I don’t need fluffy worthless words,’ she said.

The couple have written an open letter, begging for political and financial help and launched an online petition to lobby the British and Portuguese governments for a formal review of the case.
Mr McCann said: ‘We have tried in vain to get the authorities to play their part but our requests have seemingly fallen on deaf ears.’

Madeleine vanished in 2007 during a family holiday in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
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Huge effort: Madeleine McCann went missing in May 2007

Portuguese police shelved an 18-month investigation into the disappearance after clearing her parents as formal suspects, and the case has remained closed.

Mr and Mrs McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have met a series of ministers in the hope that the case will be re-opened or a cold-case review of the investigation launched.

Their hopes were raised when the Labour government looked at the feasibility of an Interpol review of the disappearance.

But when they met Home Secretary Theresa May in August, they learned the new Home Secretary had not read the report.

The McCanns have used £2million in public donations to pay for private detectives.
But heart consultant Mr McCann, also 42, said the fund would run dry early next year, and begged for donations.

Mrs McCann said: ‘We can’t stop trying to find Madeleine – or at the very least find out what’s happened.’

The Home Office said: ‘The Government wants to ensure that everything feasible is being done to progress the search.’

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by **sharonl** 02.11.10 22:56

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Last updated at 10:24 PM on 2nd November 2010

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Madeleine McCann’s mother yesterday condemned politicians for their ‘fluffy, worthless’ promises to help find her missing daughter.

The 42-year-old spoke out as she and husband revealed that their multi-million pound appeal fund will run dry within months.

Kate McCann accused the Government of giving up the hunt for the child who went missing shortly before her fourth birthday. She said a series of ministers had shrugged off her pleas for help.

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Tireless: Kate and Gerry McCann have warned the fund to find their missing daughter will run out of money

‘I don’t want to be appeased, and that’s what I feel we’re getting. We need action, I don’t need fluffy worthless words,’ she said.

The couple have written an open letter, begging for political and financial help and launched an online petition to lobby the British and Portuguese governments for a formal review of the case.
Mr McCann said: ‘We have tried in vain to get the authorities to play their part but our requests have seemingly fallen on deaf ears.’

Madeleine vanished in 2007 during a family holiday in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
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Huge effort: Madeleine McCann went missing in May 2007

Portuguese police shelved an 18-month investigation into the disappearance after clearing her parents as formal suspects, and the case has remained closed.

Mr and Mrs McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have met a series of ministers in the hope that the case will be re-opened or a cold-case review of the investigation launched.

Their hopes were raised when the Labour government looked at the feasibility of an Interpol review of the disappearance.

But when they met Home Secretary Theresa May in August, they learned the new Home Secretary had not read the report.

The McCanns have used £2million in public donations to pay for private detectives.
But heart consultant Mr McCann, also 42, said the fund would run dry early next year, and begged for donations.

Mrs McCann said: ‘We can’t stop trying to find Madeleine – or at the very least find out what’s happened.’

The Home Office said: ‘The Government wants to ensure that everything feasible is being done to progress the search

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by macy 02.11.10 22:59

There we go, BEGGING for more money. They need it for the libel case as surely it can`t now be covered on a no win no fee basis, given the unbanning of GAs book.

by littlepixie 02.11.10 23:03

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The Home Office said: ‘The Government wants to ensure that everything feasible is being done to progress THE SEARCH

Did the Home Office really say this? How can we find out?

by littlepixie 02.11.10 23:08

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by maebee 02.11.10 23:10

But heart consultant Mr McCann, also 42, said the fund would run dry early next year, and begged for donations

Move along. Nothing new to see here.

by Guest 02.11.10 23:11

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] It's been whoooshed clunked. Probably released one and a half hours too early. Wasn't supposed to be released to 00.01 [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by **sharonl** 02.11.10 23:12

Yes Littlepixie

This came in as a google alert just minutes ago I uploaded it here and then tried to twitter it, unsuccessfully. It seems that it was whoosh-cluncked within minutes, is this why?

Their hopes were raised when the Labour government looked at the feasibility of an Interpol review of the disappearance.

But when they met Home Secretary Theresa May in August, they learned the new Home Secretary had not read the report.

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by Guest 02.11.10 23:18

Have merged your topic here sharon as already being discussed here [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by **sharonl** 02.11.10 23:26

candyfloss wrote:Have merged your topic here sharon as already being discussed here [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Thanks Candyfloss, it seems that it`s the only place that it will be discussed. Why on earth was that Mail article removed? There`s something in the wind.

by Guest 02.11.10 23:29

sharonl wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Have merged your topic here sharon as already being discussed here [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Thanks Candyfloss, it seems that it`s the only place that it will be discussed. Why on earth was that Mail article removed? There`s something in the wind.

It seems there is an embargo for the pictures and news story not to be released before midnight tonight. We will wait and see what time it re-appears

by littlepixie 02.11.10 23:35

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by macy 02.11.10 23:51

front page of the Sun (click to 12)

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by Guest 02.11.10 23:54

[quote="macy"]front page of the Sun (click to 12)

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It won't let you click macy - just first page on there. Been to sky website it's the same. Probably waiting till midnight [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by Angelique 02.11.10 23:57

macey

Thank you for the link - it didn't work first time - so I tried again and got through. Only one paper then as far as I can see.

Angelique

by Angelique 02.11.10 23:58

candyfloss

I think macey meant number 12 - they are only the front pages.

Angelique

by macy 02.11.10 23:59

Thats strange. I can get in via link, then scroll thru papers til the sun appears.

Its full page and says `McCanns-We feel Maddie Hunt is over `

by Guest 03.11.10 0:00

Angelique wrote:macey

Thank you for the link - it didn't work first time - so I tried again and got through. Only one paper then as far as I can see.

Angelique

Still stuck on page 1 for me no arrow to move it on. Both links the same. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Just seen screenshot on another site - big front page article.

by Guest 03.11.10 0:07

Ha arrows appeared just after midnight

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by **sharonl** 03.11.10 0:11

McCanns tire of 'fluffy and worthless' words offered by authorities

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Published Date: 03 November 2010
By SHÂN ROSS

KATE and Gerry McCann have faced a harrowing three-and-a-half year search for their young daughter Madeleine. And the couple have finally lost patience with the lack of progress made by the police, saying they have had enough of "fluffy, worthless words" and calling for a full case review into her disappearance.

• Kate and Gerry McCann want a full review of the case - and are appealing again for the public's help. Picture: PA

Madeleine has been missing since 3 May, 2007, when, aged three, she was taken as she slept alongside her younger twin brother and sister in Praia da Luz in the Algarve, Portugal. Her parents had been dining with friends at a nearby tapas bar within their holiday complex at the time.

The McCanns, both doctors, have never given up hope their daughter will be found. But yesterday they launched a petition to lobby the UK and Portuguese governments for a joint or independent review of the case, saying they wanted "action" and "somebody to do something".

Glasgow-born Mr McCann, said: "Essentially for the last three and a half years, the authorities have not been doing anything proactive to help Madeleine. That is despite our best efforts to encourage them to do so.

"I don't think it's right that the onus should fall on us - the authorities really should be doing more."

Mrs McCann said: "I don't want to be appeased, and that's what I feel we're getting at the moment.

"We need action. I don't need fluffy, worthless words. We need somebody to do something.

"Madeleine is still missing, she's a little girl, her abductor is still out there, so by not carrying on, we are putting other children at risk. I think more needs to be done."

The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, have met former home secretaries Alan Johnson and Jacqui Smith, as well as current Home Secretary Theresa May, to discuss the issue and to ask for a review of the case.

Mr Johnson commissioned a "scoping exercise" by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre to see if a review would be helpful. Mrs McCann said when they met him, they felt they were making progress, but now they did not even know if the report had been read.

"There has not been a formal case review and I think for such a serious case like this, and with the profile of it and international aspects, that should be carried out," Mr McCann said

by Autumn 03.11.10 1:25

From the Official Find Madeleine Facebook Site

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It is exactly three and a half years since our daughter Madeleine was so cruelly taken from us. Three and a half years without her seeing her brother, her sister, her Mummy, her Daddy or her best friends. We need your support to continue to lobby the British and Portuguese Governments to undertake a joint or independent review of Madeleine’s case.
Independent review of Madeleine McCann's case
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We call on the UK and Portuguese authorities to conduct an independent and transparent review of all information in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
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by Judge Mental 03.11.10 1:30

It looks as if they have had word that the Portuguese are about to start continuing their investigations, so they want to look as if it is all their own idea to get the show back on the road.