Re: Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary

by Liz Eagles 17.05.19 12:44

tiki wrote:I honestly cannot understand Sandra Felgueiras logic here. I didn't think the DNA was ever that reliable as in the analysts were at fault.more than anything because they could not be that accurate. However, to keep banging that drum, the dogs were accurate but though they are not admitted in court without supporting evidence how can they be ignored. This is the death of a child we're talking about and by the hands of her own parents clearly after cadaver alerts. It simply beggars belief that this crucial evidence is as if it never happened and millions of people are chasing phantoms. Unbelievable, no wonder Goncalo Amaral has kept on pursuing the case, it has to be so frustrating and why have they not taken up offers of new DNA techniques . Is it possible that could she'd some light but then the McCanns don't want that.

These DNA techniques aren't exactly new. I watched Mark Perlin on the REALLY channel 'evidence of evil' programme last night and I don't think it was made last week.

To think that Scotland Yard and/or the PJ are not aware of current DNA techniques is to render oneself as gullible.

To buy into the laying down of a gauntlet by media is much the same.

by plebgate 17.05.19 13:17

pauloalexandre wrote:
plebgate wrote:Does Sandra now support Mr & Mrs? I haven't watched any of it and wont be but it's not clear to me on this thread where she stands.

Does she now support two people who say that they left their 3 babies alone night after night in a foreign land and in a strange flat to go out eating and DRINKING with their pals? Leaving a child who was very, very tired, who had a history of nose bleeds and had asked why they did not come when they were crying?

Why only criticise Rocky A in the Netflix film?

It doesn't add up to me.

I heard that Madeleine had nose bleeds, but only as an excuse by the family to negate the dogs' findings, in which they had detected the presence of human blood.

Did they ever mention that on other occasions?

Instead of asking me questions why not take a look around the internet and find Mr's September 07 arguido interview. You might learn something for yourself.

Maybe you could post a link as to where you heard that it was the family who used this as an excuse.

I agree with aquilla's previous posts to you.

by Guest 17.05.19 13:19

Mark Perlin, Ph.D., chief scientific and executive officer of Cybergenetics, is a 2017 Pittsburgh Smart 50 honoree and Impact award winner

Mark Perlin co-founded Cybergenetics in 1994 to interpret DNA data for medical diagnosis and gene discovery. Five years later, the business pivoted into a higher profile field: forensic analysis of crime scene DNA.

It was 10 more years before Perlin, who is the company’s chief scientific and executive officer today, first testified in a 2009 case in which a fraction of DNA was found under the murder victim’s fingernails. He had to explain to the judge — and eventually the jury — how his TrueAllele

technology separates DNA evidence from multiple sources into genotypes, then uses computers to determine how strongly the evidence matches a single person, or other evidence.
...........

This Mark Perlin's TrueAllele

has all the markings of another quasi scientific field on a par with Peter Hyatt's Statement Analysis

.

by Guest 17.05.19 13:20

plebgate wrote:
pauloalexandre wrote:
plebgate wrote:Does Sandra now support Mr & Mrs? I haven't watched any of it and wont be but it's not clear to me on this thread where she stands.

Does she now support two people who say that they left their 3 babies alone night after night in a foreign land and in a strange flat to go out eating and DRINKING with their pals? Leaving a child who was very, very tired, who had a history of nose bleeds and had asked why they did not come when they were crying?

Why only criticise Rocky A in the Netflix film?

It doesn't add up to me.

I heard that Madeleine had nose bleeds, but only as an excuse by the family to negate the dogs' findings, in which they had detected the presence of human blood.

Did they ever mention that on other occasions?
Instead of asking me questions why not take a look around the internet and find Mr's September 07 arguido interview. You might learn something for yourself.

Maybe you could post a link as to where you heard that it was the family who used this as an excuse.

I agree with aquilla's previous posts to you.

Why do you have to be arrogant?

by plebgate 17.05.19 13:24

Why don't you go away and stop playing silly games?

BYEEEEEEEEEE.

by Guest 17.05.19 13:30

plebgate wrote:Why don't you go away and stop playing silly games?

BYEEEEEEEEEE.

I was and am not playing silly games.

I haven't looked at all of the PJ files. I was just asking you if you knew a situation where they mentioned Madeleine's nosebleeds. A situation where I might have been unaware of. You respond to me in a condescending manner.

Do you also talk to people like this in real life?

by Guest 17.05.19 13:36

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 Animat11

Order !!!

by Doug D 17.05.19 13:37

Verdi @ #52

‘By all appearances the Ocean Club guest Neil Berry makes an elaborate contribution with never been seen before photographic evidence of the back end of a child said to be Madeleine McCann but is clearly considerably younger than the child in the same image said to be his daughter, who made friends with Madeleine at the child daycare. Logic dictates this claim to be a downright untruth.’

I think this is probably a genuine, but poor photo of the group with Cat Baker at parachute play, which also ties in with the register and the activity program on Sunday morning, for what worth, not like the 'blown away hat' nonsense.

by Guest 17.05.19 13:55

Do you then think that the rear view of a little girl is Madeleine McCann?

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 150319madeline-landscape

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 150319madeline-landscape

Correct me if I'm wrong, Neil Berry reportedly said his daughter made friends with Madeleine whilst at the childcare facilities. As I said up-page, the other child in this photographs appears to me to be considerably older than Madeleine McCann's 3-4 years.

Where are the other children in the lobster group - hiding in the bushes?

I don't doubt the photograph is genuine but I do doubt the reason it suddenly appeared for inclusion in the Netflix production. I believe if it's a photograph of Madeleine McCann at the Ocean Club, some time between 28th April and 3rd May 2007, it would have surfaced years ago.
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Jim Gamble, former CEO of the CEOP (geeez, it's like reading the local paper), urged tourists to upload their holiday photographs on a specific website he created for the purpose, plus the PJ files contain holiday images - where is this photograph?

As for the lobster groups activities during that week $i don\'t know$ . One of the hired childcare workers said the creche wasn't open on Sunday mornings, I think that most likely except for just introducing themselves and meeting their playmates.

by Guest 17.05.19 14:07

momac wrote:
Verdi wrote:Title of thread..

Re: Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary

Back on topic please good people.
That's all you needed to say, Verdi, instead of getting aggressive with pauloalexandre. He's new here, as I am, and it doesn't make one want to continue when you make it personal like that.

@momac,

As you appear to have an issue with the integrity of team admin, I would be very grateful if you could PM me with your grievance so we can resolve the issue in a dignified manner, rather than disrupting an active thread.

Thanks. I look forward to hearing from you.

by Doug D 17.05.19 19:40

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 Parach13

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 Creche10

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 Lobste10

Yes I do think that's MM.

Also think Jessica may well be standing on a box or something so she can hold the parachute as high as Cat to roll the ball down to the other boys. The kids are not old enough to co-ordinate the ball moving in a circular movement around the parachute, which is what older kids would try and do.

As for ages of the other four signed into Lobsters on Sunday morning:

J Berry             4

E Naylor         3

A Mann           3

W Totman      3

by Guest 19.05.19 2:33

Point taken, the child by the side of the animateur could well be standing on something.

That aside..

Creche register

End of session on the morning of Sunday 29th April 2007- 12:30pm

Fatima Maria Serafim da Silva Espada Profession: Cleaner - witness statement

At about 13.15 she went to help her mother, who was cleaning apartment I of the same block (5) situated on the first floor. She clearly remembers seeing the girl accompanied by her siblings and mother leave their apartment (5 A) and walk to the stairs leading to the floor above. She was very close to them at a distance of about 1 metre, observing their movements for a few moments because she was charmed by them. Madeleine led the way with a plate (perhaps plastic) in her hand bearing a piece of bread. As regards the clothes she was wearing she only remembers a skirt but cannot recall its description.

Thursday 3rd May 2007

2.29pm: The last photograph of Madeleine is taken at the pool. The camera clock reads 1.29pm but the family says it was out by one hour.

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 Madeleineg_228x396

Pat Brown, Criminal Profiler; Review of the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary - Page 3 Madeleineg_228x396

If the 'last photograph' - the poolside, was indeed taken on Sunday 29th April 2009, as evidence suggests, then Madeleine's clothing must have been changed once or twice between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. The testimony of the cleaner's daughter is not precise but the parachute photograph featured for the first time in the Netflix production and the the poolside photograph are very precise as regards clothing.

by Guest 19.05.19 7:49

Dear Sandra Felgueiras,

Human cadaverine and human blood.

Two dogs, independently.

In 17 places uniquely associated with the McCanns.

No other places.

That is all.

Regards,

BlueBag

by Guest 19.05.19 12:32

BlueBag wrote:Dear Sandra Felgueiras,

Human cadaverine and human blood.

Two dogs, independently.

In 17 places uniquely associated with the McCanns.

No other places.

That is all.

Regards,

BlueBag

Sandra Felgueiras: "Dogs... they are, they are dogs!" (5 Para a Meia-Noite)

by Guest 20.05.19 7:42

Sandra has been got to.

Simple.

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