Skripal poisoning.

So,the Metropolitan Police force may have found the largest initial source of the poisoning to be attached to the Home of Mr Skripal's front Door,weeks later!
Therefore, Mr Skripal and his daughter(same Door) must have infected the inside of his Car and wherever they had contact to the Pub,eaterie,park bench etc.
But still No revelation of who was responsible for planting the Nefarious Toxins into Society,with exception to the Russian's,Putin?
One point that keeps reverberating is the"Russian's are bad!
So,if the Russian's are bad,nasty,not to be trusted person's,then why are the UK Government allowing the City of London to act as a conduit to release possible illegal Funds obtained by Oligarchs, £ 4.5 Billion pounds to purchase Properties and Investment products,what does this make the people of London operating this system Saints?
£820,000 paid into the Conservative coffers in 2017,£160,00 to play Tennis with Boris,they must have mixed up the personell with the former Wimbeldon Tennis Champion and a buffoon from the Cabinet Office,what is it about Cabinets?
Jacob Rees Mogg and the conglomerates he represents have Russian Businessmen with Offshore Accounts to Bermuda,little wonder that Jacob is insistent on Brexit,as they wouldn't want those European Union cohorts raping the Offshore Assets held by the Oligarchs,would we,eh Jacob ?
The Russian's came in to support President Assad in Syria,when cohorts from the Conservative Party were quick to back the Arab spring uprising in the Middle East,Egypt,Libya,Iraq,eh dodgy Dave Cameron, George Osbourne,Tony Blair,backers UN Resolutions 273?
So, the nasty Russians helped to elect President of the United States of America ahead of"Crooked Hillary" for Crooked Donald?
The"Remoners"keep insisting the Brexit referendum was fixed by associations to Cambridge Analytca,SCL,Conservative Party associates,contracts for business and who was behind the Brexit Campaign,Gove,Johnsen,Mogg,£350 Million pound a week returned to the UK Tax payer,eh Boris?
Now the UK electorate can work out what Con stands for,they just need to work out the second part,Conserve,which means you have something to lose,that needs to be protected,now lets take the Votes away from those Benefit Scroungers?
But do not forget it is those nasty Russian's you cannot trust,us Europeans,NATO allies need to stick together,article 5,remember the Ukraine,Crimea problem,forcing out elected personel for cronies?

The UK, because of Brexit negotiations, seem to be falling out of favour with our European neighbours and so it might be useful if a situation occurred that provided the catalyst for a "coming (back) together". Now, if this situation also provided a similar re-establishing of closer relations with The USofA then that would be very nice indeed. NATO was the cherry on the cake.

And what better adversary than horrible old Russia.

Once harvested, Porton Down (or whatever it's called these days) was quite speedy in identifying Novichok presumably because it has some against which to compare. But does it have a little less than it did a month ago ??

PS   perhaps Portugal aren't quite so gullible !!

polyenne wrote:Once harvested, Porton Down (or whatever it's called these days) was quite speedy in identifying Novichok presumably because it has some against which to compare. But does it have a little less than it did a month ago ??

Good point.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:


http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/03/28/revealed-pentagons-70-million-chemical-biological-program-at-porton-down-in-uk/

Makes you wonder whether the"guinea pigs"were "Human" guinea pigs carried out in the first week of March 2018,now how long have the Father,daughter been ill in Hospital,yet  No reports of the first Doctors attending the Skripals became infected but the Police Officer did?
Glaido style Ops within the UK,with our ever so honest MI5/6!

Who was the “friend” that suggested the life support was switched off just the daughter was regaining consciousness? That seemed strange imo.

Terry May was/is looking very weak on the Brexit front but she is now being hailed  as the second Thatcher by her colleagues for her tough stance against Russia.

The World is with her against Russia and Brexit negotiations are being quietly carried out without much reporting from the Press.

What surprise is in store for us all when the Russian business dies down?

  How much of our money and rights will have been given away?
  
Never mind we have a tough leader in Terry May.   lol.

See post #2 above !!

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20180403/282029032789216

Maybe he got an Easter present.....a Novichocolate egg

So, because Russia was allegedly the sole developer and producer of Novichok they alone are guilty of the Salisbury incident.

It thus follows that, if a BMW driver knocks over and kills someone, Germany is responsible.

And yes, I know not all BMWs come directly from Germany but you get my drift.

So Yulia Skripal claims it was “attempted assassination”.

According to my dictionary, her and/or her father Sergei are therefore political or religious leaders. Hmm, not sure about that

Assassination...murder for political or religious reasons.

I'm amazed they've survived.

I'd like to know how Britosh Intelligence knew exactly what strain of "Russian" nerve agent was used.

Did they have some to compare?

(That is a rhetorical question).

And allegedly it was only ever made in 1 Russian laboratory so understanding the source was a doddle !

But it’s where the batches went from source.....as BlueBag has quite rightly intimated.

Two intriguing blogs from Craig Murray in the last couple of days.

The two photos are clearly taken by different cameras, based on the position of the gates, but are they the same tunnel or is it purely coincidence?

Met Police up to their usual incompetent tricks?

 
The Impossible Photo 1066
 
5 Sep, 2018  in Uncategorized by craig | View Comments
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I have traveled through Gatwick many times but cannot call to mind precisely where they are. Can anybody pinpoint the precise place in the airport? Before or after passport control? Before or after baggage collection? Before or after customs? The only part of the airport this looks like to me is shortly after leaving the plane after the bridge, and before joining the main gangway to passport control – in which case passengers are not split into separated channels at the stage this was taken. I can’t recall any close corridors as long as this after passport control. But I am open to correction.



Skripals – The Mystery Deepens 
6 Sep, 2018  in Uncategorized by craig | View Comments
 
The time that “Boshirov and Petrov” were allegedly in Salisbury carrying out the attack is all entirely within the period the Skripals were universally reported to have left their home with their mobile phones switched off.
A key hole in the British government’s account of the Salisbury poisonings has been plugged – the lack of any actual suspects. And it has been plugged in a way that appears broadly convincing – these two men do appear to have traveled to Salisbury at the right time to have been involved.
But what has not been established is the men’s identity and that they are agents of the Russian state, or just what they did in Salisbury. If they are Russian agents, they are remarkably amateur assassins. Meanwhile the new evidence throws the previously reported timelines into confusion – and demolishes the theories put out by “experts” as to why the Novichok dose was not fatal.
This BBC report gives a very useful timeline summary of events. 
At 09.15 on Sunday 4 March the Skripals’ car was seen on CCTV driving through three different locations in Salisbury. Both Skripals had switched off their mobile phones and they remained off for over four hours, which has baffled geo-location.
There is no CCTV footage that indicates the Skripals returning to their home. It has therefore always been assumed that they last touched the door handle around 9am. 
But the Metropolitan Police state that Boshirov and Petrov did not arrive in Salisbury until 11.48 on the day of the poisoning. That means that they could not have applied a nerve agent to the Skripals’ doorknob before noon at the earliest. But there has never been any indication that the Skripals returned to their home after noon on Sunday 4 March. If they did so, they and/or their car somehow avoided all CCTV cameras. Remember they were caught by three CCTV cameras on leaving, and Borishov and Petrov were caught frequently on CCTV on arriving.
The Skripals were next seen on CCTV at 13.30, driving down Devizes road. After that their movements were clearly witnessed or recorded until their admission to hospital.
So even if the Skripals made an “invisible” trip home before being seen on Devizes Road, that means the very latest they could have touched the doorknob is 13.15. The longest possible gap between the novichok being placed on the doorknob and the Skripals touching it would have been one hour and 15 minutes. Do you recall all those “experts” leaping in to tell us that the “ten times deadlier than VX” nerve agent was not fatal because it had degraded overnight on the doorknob? Well that cannot be true. The time between application and contact was between a minute and (at most) just over an hour on this new timeline.
In general it is worth observing that the Skripals, and poor Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley, all managed to achieve almost complete CCTV invisibility in their widespread movements around Salisbury at the key times, while in contrast “Petrov and Boshirov” managed to be frequently caught in high quality all the time during their brief visit.
This is especially remarkable in the case of the Skripals’ location around noon on 4 March. The government can only maintain that they returned home at this time, as they insist they got the nerve agent from the doorknob. But why was their car so frequently caught on CCTV leaving, but not at all returning? It appears very much more probable that they came into contact with the nerve agent somewhere else, while they were out.
“Boshirov and Petrov” plainly are of interest in this case. But only Theresa May stated they were Russian agents: the police did not, and stated that they expected those were not their real identities. We do not know who Boshirov and Petrov were. It appears very likely their appearance was to do with the Skripals on that day. But they may have been meeting them, outside the home. The evidence points to that, rather than doorknobs. Such a meeting might explain why the Skripals had turned off their mobile phones to attempt to avoid surveillance.
It is also telling the police have pressed no charges against them in the case of Dawn Sturgess, which would be manslaughter at least if the government version is true.
If “Boshirov and Petrov” are secret agents, their incompetence is astounding. They used public transport rather than a vehicle and left the clearest possible CCTV footprint. They failed in their assassination attempt. They left traces of novichok everywhere and could well have poisoned themselves, and left the “murder weapon” lying around to be found. Their timings in Salisbury were extremely tight – and British Sunday rail service dependent. 
There are other possibilities of who “Boshirov and Petrov” really are, of which Ukrainian is the obvious one. One thing I discovered when British Ambassador to Uzbekistan was that there had been a large Ukrainian ethnic group of scientists working at the Soviet chemical weapon testing facility there at Nukus. There are many other possibilities.
Yesterday’s revelations certainly add to the amount we know about the Skripal event. But they raise as many new questions as they give answers.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk

Doug D wrote:Two intriguing blogs from Craig Murray in the last couple of days.

The two photos are clearly taken by different cameras, based on the position of the gates, but are they the same tunnel or is it purely coincidence?

Met Police up to their usual incompetent tricks?

 
The Impossible Photo 1066
 
5 Sep, 2018  in Uncategorized by craig | View Comments
 

UPDATE

I am prepared to acknowledge that, given the gate design, they could have passed through different gates in exact synchronicity and this may be a red herring. I am leaving this post up here as it is good to acknowledge mistakes.

 

Russia has developed an astonishing new technology enabling its secret agents to occupy precisely the same space at precisely the same time.

 

These CCTV images released by Scotland yard today allegedly show Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov both occupying exactly the same space at Gatwick airport at precisely the same second. 16.22.43 on 2 March 2018. Note neither photo shows the other following less than a second behind.

 

 

 
 

The only possible explanations are:

1) One of the two is travelling faster than Usain Bolt can sprint

2) Scotland Yard has issued doctored CCTV images/timeline.

I am going with the Met issuing doctored images.

 

3) There's more than one tunnel and they split up. If you look at the '8' on 02/03/2018 there's a blemish on the wall on one that doesn't appear on the other.

Can anybody pinpoint the precise place in the airport? Before or after passport control? Before or after baggage collection? Before or after customs? The only part of the airport this looks like to me is shortly after leaving the plane after the bridge, and before joining the main gangway to passport control – in which case passengers are not split into separated channels at the stage this was taken. I can’t recall any close corridors as long as this after passport control. But I am open to correction.

Those gates are immediately before one enters the public arrivals hall. After going through the red or green channel at Gatwick, you go through automatic doors, turn left and past a duty-free shop on the right. The gates are dead ahead and, from memory, there are at least 4 of them.

There is no CCTV footage that indicates the Skripals returning to their home. It has therefore always been assumed that they last touched the door handle around 9am. 

What a load of baloney. If there was CCTV available that could have picked out the Skripals at their front door, it would also have picked out the "amateur assassins" smearing the Novichok. DUH !

If you look at the '8' on 02/03/2018 there's a blemish on the wall on one that doesn't appear on the other.

That "blemish" may well be the other guys silhouette as, IIRC, the side glass to those channels is opaque.