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Post by Guest 18.05.17 23:27

Thanks to forum owner Jill Havern alias Get'emGoncalo, without whom this would not be possible.

At last I see light at the end of the dark tunnel - not directly but this following of ex-Met Police officers/whistleblowers could have dynamic impetus towards finally seeing justice for little Madeleine McCann, the child with no voice.

bravo   You have my deepest respect Boss.

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Post by Nina 18.05.17 23:50

Verdi wrote:Thanks to forum owner Jill Havern alias Get'emGoncalo, without whom this would not be possible.

At last I see light at the end of the dark tunnel - not directly but this following of ex-Met Police officers/whistleblowers could have dynamic impetus towards finally seeing justice for little Madeleine McCann, the child with no voice.

bravo   You have my deepest respect Boss.

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I will second all of that Verdi.

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Nina wrote:
Verdi wrote:Thanks to forum owner Jill Havern alias Get'emGoncalo, without whom this would not be possible.

At last I see light at the end of the dark tunnel - not directly but this following of ex-Met Police officers/whistleblowers could have dynamic impetus towards finally seeing justice for little Madeleine McCann, the child with no voice.

bravo   You have my deepest respect Boss.

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I will second all of that Verdi.
Nina, I see this as a new beginning. 

The past few weeks of 10th anniversary hype have caused so much dissension and unnecessary distraction - what better than a following of genuine ex-Met Police to add to the dedication epitomized by CMoMM to further the cause for justice for little Madeleine McCann.

Without the Boss none of this would have been possible.

Thank you again Boss!

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Post by Guest 19.05.17 0:42

Come on all you lurkers and silent enigmas - show us yer metal.

CMoMM membership has surged in the the past weeks, now is the time to grasp the nettle.

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Post by Guest 19.05.17 7:12

This forum has a level head.

And that is a unusual and fantastic thing on the internet.

Thanks Jill for the guts to do this.
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Post by sandancer 19.05.17 9:43

BlueBag wrote:This forum has a level head.

And that is a unusual and fantastic thing on the internet.

Thanks Jill for the guts to do this.


CMOMM rises head and shoulders above ALL others .

Despite the constant ridicule and abuse from others , Jill you have remained strong along with the great researchers who wish only justice for Madeleine and the twins .

You all have my greatest respect and admiration and I am proud to say I am a member of CMOMM .

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Post by Mirage 19.05.17 9:56

I used to wonder how people down through history would put themselves in harm's way in the cause of justice.

I now understand what impels decent people to rail against, then fight and fight and fight injustice

Thank you CMOMM comrades, all. And most of all thank you Jill.
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Post by sallypelt 19.05.17 10:27

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BlueBag wrote:This forum has a level head.

And that is a unusual and fantastic thing on the internet.

Thanks Jill for the guts to do this.


CMOMM rises head and shoulders above ALL others .

Despite the constant ridicule and abuse from others , Jill you have remained strong along with the great researchers who wish only justice for Madeleine and the twins .

You all have my greatest respect and admiration and I am proud to say I am a member of CMOMM .

Yes,  I agree. This forum deals with the REAL issues, and keeps a dignified silence when it comes to gossip forums. You know the forums in question. They are the ones who “aren’t concerned with membership” or readers, but then spend days talking about THEIR numbers. “Quality over quantity” is a slogan that one poster uses. Sadly, it has neither quality NOR quantity. Moreover, they look silly when they post how “friendly” their forum is, then, again, spend days slagging of certain members of  CMoMM forum. You couldn’t make it up, could you?

 
Keep up the good works, Jill, you are doing a fantastic job”
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Post by plebgate 19.05.17 11:27

YAY.  Have said many times about the courage of Jill, Tony, Peter, Sharonl and the many others who will not give up on any injustice.

This forum has the potential to be huge not only for Maddie but for all people who seek justice for whatever reason.  The word is spreading but be on alert because there are many who will seek to do their very best to undermine this site and this cannot be allowed to happen.

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Post by Jill Havern 19.05.17 11:36

What a lovely thread and I'm so proud of you all for being members here and sticking with us in this fight for justice for Madeleine.

Sallypelt, my philosophy for the forum you refer to is quite simply this: Why go to an empty well and come back with an empty bucket?

CMOMM is where the real action is for Madeleine Beth McCann, aged three. We are pro-active for her, we write letters to Operation Grange, the Prime Minister, the Home Secretary, the Commissioners.

We submit FOI requests, we start Petitions, we research, we write books and make films. We have blogs, we have facebook groups, we have twitter accounts.

We have our critics, some of them fierce, one of them has issued a death threat, another has received an official Police warning, some come here simply to disrupt....but we boot them out and we soldier on regardless for Madeleine Beth McCann.

And of course Brenda Leyland lost her life because of this case - she was a member here, despite not posting. Ex Deputy Chief Constable Jim Gamble congratulated Martin Brunt for his doorstepping of Brenda, under false pretences. None of the genuine truthseekers anywhere on the internet has taken kindly to this evil act.

Once we know who the next Prime Minister is, we will be sending our next letter to him or her. It's already in draft form and will be posted here on the forum, and various other places on the internet, just as our other letters have been.

And now we have a new following of police whistleblowers. The MET police have come out in force to sabotage the Maddie investigation, so we will just have to up our game and fight back harder won't we?

Keep the faith. We ain't done yet. No siree.

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Post by Jill Havern 19.05.17 11:57

My blog title is McCanns' Abuse of Power, which I chose back in 2007.

My username here is Get'emGonçalo - a name I chose back in 2008 when I joined the old 3A's forum.

My twitter username is Abuse of Power which I chose back in 2009.

How very apt.

It all fits very well with the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann.

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Post by jan smith 19.05.17 12:04

I've been a member of CMoMM for a while now but haven't commented before .. lack of courage, knowledge and considerably less articulate than the majority of the posters, but after years of despair and hopelessness, I actually feel quite positive and yes, cautiously excited, that justice will be done.

Jill and the other hard working researchers, posters and contributors - you all have my admiration and utmost respect and I thank you all for never giving up and making this forum the very best - and yes, I too am proud to be a member. 

I'm sure there are a lot of "lurkers" like me that haven't posted for whatever reason but are grateful to have found a respected and dignified source of reliable information, let's keep up the momentum and ensure justice prevails - for everyone.
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Post by Jill Havern 19.05.17 12:07

jan smith wrote:I've been a member of CMoMM for a while now but haven't commented before .. lack of courage, knowledge and considerably less articulate than the majority of the posters, but after years of despair and hopelessness, I actually feel quite positive and yes, cautiously excited, that justice will be done.

Jill and the other hard working researchers, posters and contributors - you all have my admiration and utmost respect and I thank you all for never giving up and making this forum the very best - and yes, I too am proud to be a member. 

I'm sure there are a lot of "lurkers" like me that haven't posted for whatever reason but are grateful to have found a respected and dignified source of reliable information, let's keep up the momentum and ensure justice prevails - for everyone.
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Get'emGonçalo wrote:What a lovely thread and I'm so proud of you all for being members here and sticking with us in this fight for justice for Madeleine.
Come on now - you can't pin the blame on anyone else for this one bignono .

This thread is for you and you alone yes nod .
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Post by JRP 19.05.17 12:22

jan smith wrote:I've been a member of CMoMM for a while now but haven't commented before .. lack of courage, knowledge and considerably less articulate than the majority of the posters, but after years of despair and hopelessness, I actually feel quite positive and yes, cautiously excited, that justice will be done.

Jill and the other hard working researchers, posters and contributors - you all have my admiration and utmost respect and I thank you all for never giving up and making this forum the very best - and yes, I too am proud to be a member. 

I'm sure there are a lot of "lurkers" like me that haven't posted for whatever reason but are grateful to have found a respected and dignified source of reliable information, let's keep up the momentum and ensure justice prevails - for everyone.
My first time posting on a forum ! big grin

As the 3rd clicker of your Like Button... I think more of the silent members should take part in the discussions, it adds voices, and it's important that others know it's not just imaginary numbers on this forum which some suggest, but real people. 
And we care about someone we never knew, and the years of wrong doing need to be put right.
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Post by Jill Havern 19.05.17 12:24

Verdi wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:What a lovely thread and I'm so proud of you all for being members here and sticking with us in this fight for justice for Madeleine.
Come on now - you can't pin the blame on anyone else for this one bignono .

This thread is for you and you alone yes nod .
Thank you, but I think you'll find I can. big grin

And here's why....

Without members there would be no forum!

Not one like this anyway. winkwink

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Post by wills 19.05.17 12:37

I have followed this excellent site/forum for over 15 months, but only recenty joined. All the information I needed to know (well not all obviously) has been on show here. Splendid and honest site. Well done all and hope this sorry matter will be resolved soon and justice is activated.
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Post by jan smith 19.05.17 13:05

@JRP not sure how to highlight your post and comment direct .. sorry.
Yes, you're right course, we all have a voice and it's important for it to be heard, especially to prove we're all genuine.  
So, if you are lurking silently in the sidelines, come on, be brave, write a post and press send ! You'll feel even more of a part of this great forum.


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Post by Guest 19.05.17 14:16

plebgate wrote:YAY.  Have said many times about the courage of Jill, Tony, Peter, Sharonl and the many others who will not give up on any injustice.
Yes indeed, their dedication has been duly acknowledged on many ocassions, as you rightly point out - they are never forgotten.

This particular dedication intended for Jill Havern alone, was inspired by the recent following by ex-Met Police officers/whistleblowers that she has attracted on social media.  It would of course be fanatastic if one or more joined the forum but if not, I feel confident they will easily find their way to CMoMM and at least read.

I see this as the most significant breakthrough since release of the PJ files into the public domain, potentially the beginning of a new era - exposing wide spread corruption within the UK establilshment and in particular the dubious authenticity of Operation Grange.  Ultimately, if carefully managed and successful, this could lead to wider recognition of all the work undertaken over the years by the very people you mention and many more besides and the goal of CMoMM - justice for Madeleine McCann.

Without Jill Havern's courage and dedication this would never have been possible.
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Verdi wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:What a lovely thread and I'm so proud of you all for being members here and sticking with us in this fight for justice for Madeleine.
Come on now - you can't pin the blame on anyone else for this one bignono .

This thread is for you and you alone yes nod .
Thank you, but I think you'll find I can. big grin

And here's why....

Without members there would be no forum!

Not one like this anyway. winkwink
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Post by Sapphire 19.05.17 16:59

I'm another recently joined member and mainly did so in order to be able to catch up where I left off as I've been reading in here for some time.  Still wading through the vast amount of information available on here.

Jill should be rightly proud of this forum in the pursuit of justice for Madeleine, and it makes such a difference to be able to read without having to put up with the diversionary tactics of trolls and WUMs. 

Well done Jill!
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Post by princess_leia 19.05.17 17:06

Get'emGonçalo wrote:What a lovely thread and I'm so proud of you all for being members here and sticking with us in this fight for justice for Madeleine.

Sallypelt, my philosophy for the forum you refer to is quite simply this: Why go to an empty well and come back with an empty bucket?

CMOMM is where the real action is for Madeleine Beth McCann, aged three. We are pro-active for her, we write letters to Operation Grange, the Prime Minister, the Home Secretary, the Commissioners.

We submit FOI requests, we start Petitions, we research, we write books and make films. We have blogs, we have facebook groups, we have twitter accounts.

We have our critics, some of them fierce, one of them has issued a death threat, another has received an official Police warning, some come here simply to disrupt....but we boot them out and we soldier on regardless for Madeleine Beth McCann.

And of course Brenda Leyland lost her life because of this case - she was a member here, despite not posting. Ex Deputy Chief Constable Jim Gamble congratulated Martin Brunt for his doorstepping of Brenda, under false pretences. None of the genuine truthseekers anywhere on the internet has taken kindly to this evil act.

Once we know who the next Prime Minister is, we will be sending our next letter to him or her. It's already in draft form and will be posted here on the forum, and various other places on the internet, just as our other letters have been.

And now we have a new following of police whistleblowers. The MET police have come out in force to sabotage the Maddie investigation, so we will just have to up our game and fight back harder won't we?

Keep the faith. We ain't done yet. No siree.

Having been around from 2007 - Sun Forum initially, HTFM, Daily Mirror, 3As, and a couple of others that have come and gone...this by far is the best of them all, one of the main reasons being, how actively involved members are, the dedication here has been immense. I see you as the driving force behind it all Jill. When I've felt down about this case, your posts have cheered me up, you're positivity has been greatly appreciated by me as I am sure to many others. I am more of an obsessive lurker than a contributor, although, I have been more active the last couple of months. 

Yes there are sometimes heated debates, but it's always good to hash things out, members won't always agree on the same things, but there is one important thing that we all agree on.....we all want justice for Madeleine McCann and this is what matters most. There is rarely a day that goes by when I don't think about Madeleine. One day I believe we will see justice done, I hope it's sooner rather than later. 

So I just wanted to join in this homage, and say thank you from the bottom of my heart to you Jill and all the other members for their determination over the years!
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Post by Patience 19.05.17 17:31

Congratulations from me also, Jill. 

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Post by saloongirl 19.05.17 18:38

I will raise my ugly head to also say thank you for running such a level headed, polite, informative, friendly forum. Thank you Jill and all members.
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saloongirl wrote:I will raise my ugly head to also say thank you for running such a level headed, polite, informative, friendly forum. Thank you Jill and all members.
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Post by Truth4Maddie 20.05.17 11:40

Hi guys,

I just wanted to say a huge thank you & also that everyone who has contributed to this forum you have my utmost respect. 
When MM went "missing" I was only 17 at the time & didn't know all the political ins/outs or anything other than what was being printed in the press. Ten years on & I had just started taking an active interest in the case at the start of April when the anniversary of her "disappearance" was approaching and I heard of the new "leads" that were being investigated. 
Maybe it was now because I have a beautiful little daughter myself, all I remember was that KM & GM had left them alone but not much else. 8 weeks later, having read through masses of files, watching Richard D Halls videos, reading Peter Macs book as well as many insightful posts on this forum I feel all of this hard work that has been done by these people, with nothing in it for them apart from realising the truth is coming to a head. These are exciting times, a part of me wishes I had been interested from the start but another part of me is very glad it's now as all the facts are laid bare for all who care to see them. I will follow this forum until the truth is realised & thank you to everyone for their input, small or large. 

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Post by Nina 20.05.17 11:55

Truth4Maddie wrote:Hi guys,

I just wanted to say a huge thank you & also that everyone who has contributed to this forum you have my utmost respect. 
When MM went "missing" I was only 17 at the time & didn't know all the political ins/outs or anything other than what was being printed in the press. Ten years on & I had just started taking an active interest in the case at the start of April when the anniversary of her "disappearance" was approaching and I heard of the new "leads" that were being investigated. 
Maybe it was now because I have a beautiful little daughter myself, all I remember was that KM & GM had left them alone but not much else. 8 weeks later, having read through masses of files, watching Richard D Halls videos, reading Peter Macs book as well as many insightful posts on this forum I feel all of this hard work that has been done by these people, with nothing in it for them apart from realising the truth is coming to a head. These are exciting times, a part of me wishes I had been interested from the start but another part of me is very glad it's now as all the facts are laid bare for all who care to see them. I will follow this forum until the truth is realised & thank you to everyone for their input, small or large. 

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You raised a point of being only 17 back in 2007 and now 10 years later taking an active interest in the case. We are all 10 years older but it is interesting to note that those who were not far from childhood back in 2007 are now joining groups.
You have got the advantage now of the police files and various books and videos to watch, as well as a wealth of research results too. This forum has it all in one place and if you have any questions there is a thread for asking questions in.

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Post by Truth4Maddie 20.05.17 12:20

ANina wrote:
Truth4Maddie wrote:Hi guys,

I just wanted to say a huge thank you & also that everyone who has contributed to this forum you have my utmost respect. 
When MM went "missing" I was only 17 at the time & didn't know all the political ins/outs or anything other than what was being printed in the press. Ten years on & I had just started taking an active interest in the case at the start of April when the anniversary of her "disappearance" was approaching and I heard of the new "leads" that were being investigated. 
Maybe it was now because I have a beautiful little daughter myself, all I remember was that KM & GM had left them alone but not much else. 8 weeks later, having read through masses of files, watching Richard D Halls videos, reading Peter Macs book as well as many insightful posts on this forum I feel all of this hard work that has been done by these people, with nothing in it for them apart from realising the truth is coming to a head. These are exciting times, a part of me wishes I had been interested from the start but another part of me is very glad it's now as all the facts are laid bare for all who care to see them. I will follow this forum until the truth is realised & thank you to everyone for their input, small or large. 

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Hi Truth4Maddie and welcome to the forum  hello
You raised a point of being only 17 back in 2007 and now 10 years later taking an active interest in the case. We are all 10 years older but it is interesting to note that those who were not far from childhood back in 2007 are now joining groups.
You have got the advantage now of the police files and various books and videos to watch, as well as a wealth of research results too. This forum has it all in one place and if you have any questions there is a thread for asking questions in.

Hi Nina, 

Yes it is a very valid point, as many people my age will start to realise. My partner has 7 or 8 really good friends that all meet up at least once a week or try to, since they left school and they all still live local to us. They were at my home a few weeks back and they love a debate, MM was on the news so I just asked what do they think? This of course started a 2-3 hour debate for the entire time they were here, with myself quoting doezens of facts from CmoMM some of which left them all stunned. Now the girls who are in a relationship have spoken to their partners since & asked me to send them links to useful articles like Peter Macs E-book and they are all slowly realising the truth. I was also quoting facts about the case to a lot of my friends parents who were not necessarily pro McCann, but hadn't given much thought to what may have actually happened and most of them hadn't a clue but now feel something was covered up. 

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Post by dogsdontlie 20.05.17 13:04

BlueBag wrote:This forum has a level head.

And that is a unusual and fantastic thing on the internet.

Thanks Jill for the guts to do this.
I completely agree with what's been said here about Jill. The hard work and persistence, but also immense courage to persevere with the quest for justice and truth.
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Post by jeanmonroe 20.05.17 13:24

@Nina

"You raised a point of being only 17 back in 2007 and now 10 years later taking an active interest in the case. We are all 10 years older..."

Speak for yourself, Nina!

I am, and always will be, erm.......39!
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