Madeleine Parents Back In Portugal Resort

by maebee 11.12.09 22:28

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Kate-And-Gerry-McCann-Return-To-Praia-Da-Luz-Where-Madeleine-Went-Missing/Article/200912215498381?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15498381_Kate_And_Gerry_McCann_Return_To_Praia_Da_Luz_Where_Madeleine_Went_Missing

Kate and Gerry McCann have returned to Praia da Luz where their daughter Madeleine went missing in 2007.
It is the first time Mrs McCann has returned to the resort on the Algarve coast.

Sky News Crime correspondent Martin Brunt, who is in Portugal, said: "I understand they are planning to visit the Ocean Club complex from where Madeleine disappeared.

"It will be an important and emotional visit, especially for Kate McCann."

Madeleine: Vanished in 2007

Earlier on Friday, in Lisbon, the McCanns' court battle with an ex-police chief who believes Madeleine is dead was postponed for a month.

Brunt said: "I understand the McCanns have taken a three-hour car journey down from Lisbon after the aborted case.

"This is the first time Kate McCann will have returned to the resort. Gerry has been back at least once to take part in a TV documentary.

"And Kate has always said that - spiritually, at least - she felt very close to her daughter in Praia da Luz.

"How long they will stay and who they will meet isn't known.

"But they might find some resistance to their presence there because there were protests outside the court today and that anti-McCann feeling that was a little in evidence is a lot stronger in Praia da Luz."

by Guest 11.12.09 22:30

Thanks for that info maebee. I thought it was very poignant at the end of the Sky report when they said they were also asking for a million pounds in compensation!

by maebee 11.12.09 22:32

Today is a huge day in the case we've all been following for the past 2 and a half years. I was a bit disappointed to log on here this evening and see the usual in-fighting threads and very little mention of today's events. Today could very well be the turning point we've all been waiting for.

by Guest 11.12.09 22:35

I thought the case will have been big news to much of the public in the UK due to the sanitised Press coverage of the case. I think it will be news to some people that the mccanns were suspected of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance and will lead to more questions being asked and people digging deeper into the case.

by Guest 11.12.09 22:37

Cherry wrote:Thanks for that info maebee. I thought it was very poignant at the end of the Sky report when they said they were also asking for a million pounds in compensation!

That is the sum that Amaral made from his fiction book isn't it?

by twinkle 11.12.09 22:38

Turning point in what way maebee?

by Guest 11.12.09 22:38

Cherry wrote:I thought the case will have been big news to much of the public in the UK due to the sanitised Press coverage of the case. I think it will be news to some people that the mccanns were suspected of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance and will lead to more questions being asked and people digging deeper into the case.

You think it will be news to some people?

Really?

The same people who seen the scores of lurid headlines in the summer of 2007?

never mind

by Guest 11.12.09 22:40

Ho, I am sure that that PDL people will give them what-for! Imagine then tearing through Europe on a truth quest!

by Guest 11.12.09 22:41

the point I was making was that for a lot of the public it all seems to be about money with the Mccanns - and by their own accounts it has shown a small proportion of the money donated has been spent on actually looking for Madeleine - so I think the comment made at the end of the report re-emphasises for a lot of people it is more about the Mccanns making money.

by Guest 11.12.09 22:42

Raffle wrote:
Cherry wrote:I thought the case will have been big news to much of the public in the UK due to the sanitised Press coverage of the case. I think it will be news to some people that the mccanns were suspected of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance and will lead to more questions being asked and people digging deeper into the case.

You think it will be news to some people?

Really?

The same people who seen the scores of lurid headlines in the summer of 2007?

That just Just the Tip of the Iceberg! Look at what's gone on since then! Begging for more money! Hiring Con Men PIs! Everything the McFrauds say and do is all a message to the public that they think they are fools!

by Guest 11.12.09 22:45

aliberte wrote:
Raffle wrote:
Cherry wrote:I thought the case will have been big news to much of the public in the UK due to the sanitised Press coverage of the case. I think it will be news to some people that the mccanns were suspected of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance and will lead to more questions being asked and people digging deeper into the case.

You think it will be news to some people?

Really?

The same people who seen the scores of lurid headlines in the summer of 2007?

That just Just the Tip of the Iceberg! Look at what's gone on since then! Begging for more money! Hiring Con Men PIs! Everything the McFrauds say and do is all a message to the public that they think they are fools!

Nobody is an expert on who to hire if their child is taken. Shame they've had a bunch of charlatans offering their services and they were taken in by them. Poor Madeleine.

by Guest 11.12.09 22:46

twinkle wrote:Turning point in what way maebee?

Dr. Amaral is to finally have his day in court and look at that Witness List! Scotland Yard! All on his side!

by Guest 11.12.09 22:47

aliberte wrote:
twinkle wrote:Turning point in what way maebee?

Dr. Amaral is to finally have his day in court and look at that Witness List! Scotland Yard! All on his side!

There is at least a month before he drags his sorry butt into court though. That is if he himself doesn't get the swine flu and it gets postponed again.

by Guest 11.12.09 23:00

What is interesting is why metodo 3 were hired in the first place, they were said to have no experience in finding missing children and apparently did not have a good reputation. Cannot understand why a firm which actually specialised and had vast experience in finding missing children were not hired.

by Guest 11.12.09 23:03

Cherry wrote:What is interesting is why metodo 3 were hired in the first place, they were said to have no experience in finding missing children and apparently did not have a good reputation. Cannot understand why a firm which actually specialised and had vast experience in finding missing children were not hired.

Ask an expert in that field. The parents of a missing child wouldn't be experts, likely they were told what they wanted to hear, ie, that they could find their daughter.

by Guest 11.12.09 23:08

As far as I know it was Brian kennedy who hired metodo 3, and I cannot believe that he would not have done checks on any company he hired and would know whether or not that company specialised in missing children. It is very interesting.

by Finally 11.12.09 23:13

Hi

Maybe people wonder why the McCanns or their representative didn't check out their past success with finding missing people, afterall you would be more likely to look for a good families lawyer for a divorce than you would a conveyancing lawyer surely.

On the other side of the coin, with the turmoil that they no doubt were going through I suppose you might accept any help from anyone that offered it at the time. Under those circumstances perhaps their representatives should have been a little hotter in checking the detective companies out before allowing the McCanns to sign up with them.

Take care

by twinkle 11.12.09 23:35

For me personally I think it is far too easy to criticise.
Who knows what is the right or wrong thing to do in such circumstances. Who knows when it is okay to laugh, smile, cry, what to wear, what to say and when to say it.
I certainly would never hope to be in the situation to ever find out either.
It certainly seems that far too many people seem to think they know how it SHOULD have been done, but the sad fact is NOBODY knows how it feels to lose a child except those that have, or has the right to pass pavement comment on how they should have acted facing such public scrutiny.

by maebee 12.12.09 0:51

twinkle wrote:Turning point in what way maebee?

Hi twinkle,
An awful lot has happened today. It is a turning point. The McCanns and Dr. Amaral are about to face each other in court. This is something that hasn't happened since May 3rd 2007. It is a huge development in the case of the missing child Madeleine Beth McCann.

by **Tony Bennett** 12.12.09 1:07

maebee wrote:
twinkle wrote:Turning point in what way maebee?

Hi twinkle,
An awful lot has happened today. It is a turning point. The McCanns and Dr. Amaral are about to face each other in court. This is something that hasn't happened since May 3rd 2007. It is a huge development in the case of the missing child Madeleine Beth McCann.

I had feedback today from some people who know of my interest in Madeleine McCann and also know that we don't have a TV.

The comments included:

"Did you see how angry they both looked?"

"Why can't we read this book anyway and make up our own minds?"

and

"Did you hear all those Portuguese people shouting them down? They're not wanted in Portugal".

If there is a fair trial of the McCanns' libel claim against Amaral (and I have serious doubts as to whether it will be fair), it will surely become one of the trials of the century.

If it starts to go Amaral's way, expect a lengthy adjournment for some cooked-up reason.

by maebee 12.12.09 1:12

"Why can't we read this book anyway and make up our own minds?"

Thanks to the good doctors' actions, a lot more people will be doing just that.

by Guest 12.12.09 3:37

Tony Bennett wrote:
maebee wrote:
twinkle wrote:Turning point in what way maebee?

Hi twinkle,
An awful lot has happened today. It is a turning point. The McCanns and Dr. Amaral are about to face each other in court. This is something that hasn't happened since May 3rd 2007. It is a huge development in the case of the missing child Madeleine Beth McCann.
I had feedback today from some people who know of my interest in Madeleine McCann and also know that we don't have a TV.

The comments included:

"Did you see how angry they both looked?"

"Why can't we read this book anyway and make up our own minds?"

and

"Did you hear all those Portuguese people shouting them down? They're not wanted in Portugal".

If there is a fair trial of the McCanns' libel claim against Amaral (and I have serious doubts as to whether it will be fair), it will surely become one of the trials of the century.

If it starts to go Amaral's way, expect a lengthy adjournment for some cooked-up reason.

Like swine flu?

by aiyoyo 12.12.09 12:00

With people directly involved in the investigations as witnesses who can testify that the book is a reflection of the investigations' files I dont see how Amaral can lose the case. It will be interesting to see what mccanns will tell the UK press if the ruling went against them.

by Ruby 12.12.09 15:40

Clarrie would find some way of spinning it to their advantage, no doubt.

roll

Seen JM's blog? The McCann's lawyer reckons 90% of people are against the McCanns.

With lawyers like her, who needs enemies laugh

by Darling Girl 12.12.09 17:11

twinkle wrote:For me personally I think it is far too easy to criticise.
Who knows what is the right or wrong thing to do in such circumstances. Who knows when it is okay to laugh, smile, cry, what to wear, what to say and when to say it.
I certainly would never hope to be in the situation to ever find out either.
It certainly seems that far too many people seem to think they know how it SHOULD have been done, but the sad fact is NOBODY knows how it feels to lose a child except those that have, or has the right to pass pavement comment on how they should have acted facing such public scrutiny.

Twinkle, I wonder why posters from all sides can't agree on the reality of the situation. There were mistakes made on all sides. The McCanns and the Portuguese authorities are far from perfect. Across the forums, it comes down to who is less perfect than who.

Neither side do anything to promote their case. The more extreme McCann supporters defend every move the McCanns have made. They make excuses for everything. The rabid
opposers would defend Amaral to the death.

The McCanns should never have turned their missing child into a media circus. Gerry McCann, to me appears to revel in publicity and as for Clarence...it would take too much forum space for me to rant about him.

Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

Mr Bennet. You had no rights to interfere either. You don't KNOW what happened to Madeleine McCann any more than I do or anyone else on these forums. I only hope your God will forgive you if the child is still alive and living in desperate conditions, while you bang your drum and stir up even more hatred toward the family. It wasn't your place to rabble rouse on such a sensitive issue, no way, not ever. Not only that, you have intensified the warring factions on these forums and added more shit to the mix with your own private war with Debbie Butler.

I could go on. Bonnybraes,Muratfan, Magic, Bren, JJp, Photon, Butler, Bennet - and anyone else who has piggybacked this case for their own personal gain, go away and fight your crusades amongst yourselves and stop sullying the case of a missing child any further than you have done already.

by Guest 12.12.09 17:38

Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?

by Guest 12.12.09 17:53

Raffle wrote:
Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?

raffle, its two and a half years on. Madeleine is the best known child on this planet. They have just had this new CEOP campaign which went worldwide. Dont you think anyone with any info would have come forward by now. Specially with a 1 million reward on offer (although they might not have heard about that cos it is never mentione)

by Guest 12.12.09 18:01

candyfloss wrote:
Raffle wrote:
Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?

raffle, its two and a half years on. Madeleine is the best known child on this planet. They have just had this new CEOP campaign which went worldwide. Dont you think anyone with any info would have come forward by now. Specially with a 1 million reward on offer (although they might not have heard about that cos it is never mentione)

Obviously not. And I don't mean that nastily, there could be any number of combinations why people haven't/couldn't/won't come forward. Being told her parents killed her will likely be a huge factor in someone's mind somwehere who either advertenly or inadvertently holds the missing piece of the puzzle.

by Darling Girl 12.12.09 18:08

Raffle wrote:
Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?

Of course it does. But stifling the books existence does the McCanns themselves a disservice. A press release stating that they refute Amarals claims and will continue to search for their daughter would be enough. Keeping up the awareness and focusing on Madeleine and her plight would garner more support than wasting time taking Amaral to shreds. What is the point? Anyone desperate enough to read the book has found the means to do so already. The 'damage' is done.

by Guest 12.12.09 18:19

Even their efforts to ban the book wouldn't have been so bad, if and when the judgement is taken by the court upon hearing the case in January. I can cope with that if it is heard fairly on both sides. It is this constant going for the money that gets up most people's noses. They seem to want to sue everyone. They even said the would sue the PJ at one time, although they thought better of that. What is wrong with having an apology. Money won't bring Madeleine back.