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OPERATION GRANGE. STATEMENT FROM Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley
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worriedmum wrote:''We don't have evidence telling us if Madeleine is alive or dead. It is a missing person’s inquiry but as a team we are realistic about what we might be dealing with - especially as months turn to years.''
Eddie, Keela and Martin Grime. FSS. Are we living in a parallel universe?
Quite unlike the Claudia Lawrence case then, which police have treated as a murder when she too vanished.
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It’s ok, good ol’ Tracey spells it out for us.
As Rowley says on the video clip (but not in the written statement) “We've achieved a complete understanding of it all” but what he omits to say is ‘but based on the OG remit we still haven’t got an effing clue!’
We also get the 'September is d-day' definitive from Trace. Wonder where she made this one up from.
More money in the Kandohla coffers for this I suppose:
MADDIE BREAKTHROUGH
Top Brit cop hunting for Madeleine McCann says he is following up ‘critical leads’ on 10th anniversary of tot’s disappearance
Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said there are "significant investigative avenues" that are of "great interest"
By Tracey Kandohla and Lauren Fruen
25th April 2017, 9:00 pm
Updated: 25th April 2017, 10:10 pm
THE top British detective hunting for Madeleine McCann has revealed he is following up “critical” leads on the tenth anniversary of the tot’s disappearance.
Speaking ahead of the 10-year anniversary Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said they are following up “significant” leads.
Asked if police were any closer to solving the case than they were six years ago when the UK investigation was launched, Mr Rowley said: “I know we have a significant line of inquiry which is worth pursuing, and because it’s worth pursuing it could provide an answer, but until we’ve gone through it I won’t know whether we are going to get there or not.
“Ourselves and the Portuguese are doing a critical piece of work and we don’t want to spoil it by putting titbits of information out publicly.”
He declined to expand on the nature of the working theories or reveal whether any suspects were currently being considered, saying that disclosing further detail would not help the investigation.
Mr Rowley said: “We’ve got some critical lines of inquiry, those link to particular hypotheses, but I’m not going to discuss those because those are very much live investigation.
“We’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be and we are pursuing those.”
He described the possibility of a “burglary gone wrong” as a “sensible hypothesis” which has not been “entirely ruled out”.
The Scotland Yard chief admits there is still a “lot unknown” about the case after nearly 10 years and fear they may never solve it.
Mr Rowley said his diminished team of officers were “hurting” because they can’t guarantee finding the answer to end Maddie’s parents’ nightmare.
He said: “I so wish I could say we will definitely solve it but a small number of cases sadly don’t get solved.
“I just can’t quite guarantee it. It always hurts that you can’t guarantee success but we will do everything we reasonably can do to try and get there.”
The senior officer constantly tries to buoy up desperate Kate and Gerry McCann by telling them: “We will do everything reasonably possible to try and find an answer.”
Mr Rowley said: “All the different hypotheses have to remain open and we’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be.”
They include that Maddie fell prey to a sex fiend or become the victim of a “burglary gone wrong.”
One thing, for certain, he said is that the three-year-old did NOT simply wander out of the Portuguese holiday apartment on her own accord as some criminal experts have suggested.
Mr Rowley said there was “no definitive evidence” proving Maddie – who would now be aged 13 – is alive or dead.
He said that however Maddie left the Praia da Luz flat in May 2007 while her parents were dining nearby with pals, it was an abduction.
He added: “She wasn’t old enough to make a decision to set off and start her own life.”
Mr Rowley said Operation Grange – the investigation set up on the orders of former Prime Minister David Cameron six years ago – was “a missing people inquiry” and not a murder inquiry.
He said: “We understand why, after this many years, people will be pessimistic, but it’s important we keep an open mind.
“We’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be and we are pursuing those.”
Ex GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, today described their “decade of pain” in a posting on the Find Maddie website, saying: “Thankfully there is an active police investigation to try and find Madeleine and bring her abductor to justice. There are no new appeals that the police wish to make at this moment in time.”
The couple from Rothley, Leics, have vowed never to give up searching for their eldest child.
Mr Rowley said the team had not “entirely ruled out” that possibility of “a burglary gone wrong” saying it’s a “sensible hypothesis.”
Maddie, who had been left alone with her younger twin siblings Sean and Amelie, could also have been snatched by a paedophile – “one key line of inquiry.”
Refusing to go into detail, the officer said they had a “significant line of inquiry worth pursuing” which could “provide an answer.”
But he admitted it was painfully slow going, saying: “We don’t know whether we’re going to get there or not.”
Four un-named suspects identified in 2013 and among 600 people of interest to the investigation were ruled out after extensive interviews and searches.
But Mr Rowley remains confident that “significant investigative avenues” are still of “great interest” to his force and the Portuguese police, who are assisting them.
Since May 2011 detectives have sifted through a huge pile of 40,000 documents in the near £12 million inquiry paid for by the taxpayer through Home Office funding – and which has previously been blasted for being “a ridiculous waste of public money” by watchdog The Metropolitan Police Authority.
The team, which has been cut from 30 officers at the peak to now just four, continue to receive information each day and occasionally some extra useful nuggets.
Last month they received an extra £85,000 funding to continue until September at which point the inquiry is set to be shelved.
Despite failing to unearth any significant clues leading to Maddie’s whereabouts, Mr Rowley insists they have achieved “an awful lot.”
He said: “I think people get seduced perhaps by what they see in TV dramas where the most complex cases are solved in 30 minutes or 60 minutes. What we started with here was something extraordinary.
“We've achieved a complete understanding of it all. We've sifted out many of the potential suspects, many of the people of interest and where we are today is with a much smaller team focused on a small number of remaining critical lines of inquiry that we think are significant.”
He defended the vast amount the controversial hunt has cost, saying: “Big cases can take a lot of resources and a lot of time. We've tried to be careful about public money and as we've started with that massive sifting we've reduced the number of resources and the funding's reduced accordingly.”
He continued: “But we will stick with it as long as the funding's available and as long as there are sensible lines of inquiry to pursue.”
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As Rowley says on the video clip (but not in the written statement) “We've achieved a complete understanding of it all” but what he omits to say is ‘but based on the OG remit we still haven’t got an effing clue!’
We also get the 'September is d-day' definitive from Trace. Wonder where she made this one up from.
More money in the Kandohla coffers for this I suppose:
MADDIE BREAKTHROUGH
Top Brit cop hunting for Madeleine McCann says he is following up ‘critical leads’ on 10th anniversary of tot’s disappearance
Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said there are "significant investigative avenues" that are of "great interest"
By Tracey Kandohla and Lauren Fruen
25th April 2017, 9:00 pm
Updated: 25th April 2017, 10:10 pm
THE top British detective hunting for Madeleine McCann has revealed he is following up “critical” leads on the tenth anniversary of the tot’s disappearance.
Speaking ahead of the 10-year anniversary Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said they are following up “significant” leads.
Asked if police were any closer to solving the case than they were six years ago when the UK investigation was launched, Mr Rowley said: “I know we have a significant line of inquiry which is worth pursuing, and because it’s worth pursuing it could provide an answer, but until we’ve gone through it I won’t know whether we are going to get there or not.
“Ourselves and the Portuguese are doing a critical piece of work and we don’t want to spoil it by putting titbits of information out publicly.”
He declined to expand on the nature of the working theories or reveal whether any suspects were currently being considered, saying that disclosing further detail would not help the investigation.
Mr Rowley said: “We’ve got some critical lines of inquiry, those link to particular hypotheses, but I’m not going to discuss those because those are very much live investigation.
“We’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be and we are pursuing those.”
He described the possibility of a “burglary gone wrong” as a “sensible hypothesis” which has not been “entirely ruled out”.
The Scotland Yard chief admits there is still a “lot unknown” about the case after nearly 10 years and fear they may never solve it.
Mr Rowley said his diminished team of officers were “hurting” because they can’t guarantee finding the answer to end Maddie’s parents’ nightmare.
He said: “I so wish I could say we will definitely solve it but a small number of cases sadly don’t get solved.
“I just can’t quite guarantee it. It always hurts that you can’t guarantee success but we will do everything we reasonably can do to try and get there.”
The senior officer constantly tries to buoy up desperate Kate and Gerry McCann by telling them: “We will do everything reasonably possible to try and find an answer.”
Mr Rowley said: “All the different hypotheses have to remain open and we’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be.”
They include that Maddie fell prey to a sex fiend or become the victim of a “burglary gone wrong.”
One thing, for certain, he said is that the three-year-old did NOT simply wander out of the Portuguese holiday apartment on her own accord as some criminal experts have suggested.
Mr Rowley said there was “no definitive evidence” proving Maddie – who would now be aged 13 – is alive or dead.
He said that however Maddie left the Praia da Luz flat in May 2007 while her parents were dining nearby with pals, it was an abduction.
He added: “She wasn’t old enough to make a decision to set off and start her own life.”
Mr Rowley said Operation Grange – the investigation set up on the orders of former Prime Minister David Cameron six years ago – was “a missing people inquiry” and not a murder inquiry.
He said: “We understand why, after this many years, people will be pessimistic, but it’s important we keep an open mind.
“We’ve got some thoughts on what we think the most likely explanations might be and we are pursuing those.”
Ex GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, today described their “decade of pain” in a posting on the Find Maddie website, saying: “Thankfully there is an active police investigation to try and find Madeleine and bring her abductor to justice. There are no new appeals that the police wish to make at this moment in time.”
The couple from Rothley, Leics, have vowed never to give up searching for their eldest child.
Mr Rowley said the team had not “entirely ruled out” that possibility of “a burglary gone wrong” saying it’s a “sensible hypothesis.”
Maddie, who had been left alone with her younger twin siblings Sean and Amelie, could also have been snatched by a paedophile – “one key line of inquiry.”
Refusing to go into detail, the officer said they had a “significant line of inquiry worth pursuing” which could “provide an answer.”
But he admitted it was painfully slow going, saying: “We don’t know whether we’re going to get there or not.”
Four un-named suspects identified in 2013 and among 600 people of interest to the investigation were ruled out after extensive interviews and searches.
But Mr Rowley remains confident that “significant investigative avenues” are still of “great interest” to his force and the Portuguese police, who are assisting them.
Since May 2011 detectives have sifted through a huge pile of 40,000 documents in the near £12 million inquiry paid for by the taxpayer through Home Office funding – and which has previously been blasted for being “a ridiculous waste of public money” by watchdog The Metropolitan Police Authority.
The team, which has been cut from 30 officers at the peak to now just four, continue to receive information each day and occasionally some extra useful nuggets.
Last month they received an extra £85,000 funding to continue until September at which point the inquiry is set to be shelved.
Despite failing to unearth any significant clues leading to Maddie’s whereabouts, Mr Rowley insists they have achieved “an awful lot.”
He said: “I think people get seduced perhaps by what they see in TV dramas where the most complex cases are solved in 30 minutes or 60 minutes. What we started with here was something extraordinary.
“We've achieved a complete understanding of it all. We've sifted out many of the potential suspects, many of the people of interest and where we are today is with a much smaller team focused on a small number of remaining critical lines of inquiry that we think are significant.”
He defended the vast amount the controversial hunt has cost, saying: “Big cases can take a lot of resources and a lot of time. We've tried to be careful about public money and as we've started with that massive sifting we've reduced the number of resources and the funding's reduced accordingly.”
He continued: “But we will stick with it as long as the funding's available and as long as there are sensible lines of inquiry to pursue.”
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It's all just too sickening for words.
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Again not in the written statement, just in the video clip for some reason:
‘Firstly, the parents involvement. That was dealt with at the time, the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material, we’re happy that’s completely dealt with, and there’s no reason whatsoever to reopen that or to start rumours that that’s a line of investigation, ……..’
so confirming absolutely that OG was working to a restricted remit and not taking everything back to square one.
Also seemingly very much at odds with the recent Portuguese Supreme Court ruling in the Amaral case where it was made abundantly clear that the McCanns were never cleared based on the archiving:
(2. The Supreme Court stated, in its ruling, that the above is no argument because the McCanns were not considered innocent by the investigation and the case was archived because not enough evidence was found to charge them.)
If we had a MSM with any balls, Rowley could be in for some serious hammer tomorrow, but as we all know he won't be.
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Amaral on Portuguese TV Monday night apparently. Could be interesting.
‘Firstly, the parents involvement. That was dealt with at the time, the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material, we’re happy that’s completely dealt with, and there’s no reason whatsoever to reopen that or to start rumours that that’s a line of investigation, ……..’
so confirming absolutely that OG was working to a restricted remit and not taking everything back to square one.
Also seemingly very much at odds with the recent Portuguese Supreme Court ruling in the Amaral case where it was made abundantly clear that the McCanns were never cleared based on the archiving:
(2. The Supreme Court stated, in its ruling, that the above is no argument because the McCanns were not considered innocent by the investigation and the case was archived because not enough evidence was found to charge them.)
If we had a MSM with any balls, Rowley could be in for some serious hammer tomorrow, but as we all know he won't be.
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Amaral on Portuguese TV Monday night apparently. Could be interesting.
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Well of course Poulton would be in the know - she goes cheek by jowl with LBC.Doug D wrote:From Paul Rees on 'Controversy' site:
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Cut to the chase - there is no Metropolitan Police update.
A blog post by Mark 'roll over' Rowley does not constitute an official statement - not now not ever.
Move on..
A blog post by Mark 'roll over' Rowley does not constitute an official statement - not now not ever.
Move on..
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The McCann defence league has been doing this for the past ten years. They whip-up a frenzy of anticipation and then sit back and watch the fall-out - it works every time.
If only the public could see they are being duped.
If only the public could see they are being duped.
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Scotland Yard to make an announcement.
First and foremost Mr Mark Rowley,you have a duty of Care to properly investigate a Criminal offence against a person,in this case Mark,a missing Three year old child at the time of her disappearance named Madeleine McCann.
This is the person you owe the duty of care to not to provide an answer to the parents?
The same Parents who for years have stated,they were in No Rush to have the Case Re-Opened?
Let us hope that Mr Mark Rowely reconsider his position as an Assistant Commander in the Metropolitan Police Service in light of this Statement?
Let us hope that Prime Minister Theresa May be questioned as to how the Operation Grange Remit-Abduction and DCS Andy Redwood,explain what"Back to Square one"is,but choose to ignore the evidence of Martin Grimes Police Dogs,Eddie,Keela,FSS results?
When Mark Rowley gave this performance,(MR)thought he was Auditioning for the new Statue outside of Belgravia Police Station,the Laughing Policeman From Blackpool,as surely now they are going on Britain's Got Talent,Keystone Cops,what an embarrassment to Honest serving Police officers!!?
This is the person you owe the duty of care to not to provide an answer to the parents?
The same Parents who for years have stated,they were in No Rush to have the Case Re-Opened?
Let us hope that Mr Mark Rowely reconsider his position as an Assistant Commander in the Metropolitan Police Service in light of this Statement?
Let us hope that Prime Minister Theresa May be questioned as to how the Operation Grange Remit-Abduction and DCS Andy Redwood,explain what"Back to Square one"is,but choose to ignore the evidence of Martin Grimes Police Dogs,Eddie,Keela,FSS results?
When Mark Rowley gave this performance,(MR)thought he was Auditioning for the new Statue outside of Belgravia Police Station,the Laughing Policeman From Blackpool,as surely now they are going on Britain's Got Talent,Keystone Cops,what an embarrassment to Honest serving Police officers!!?
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Very true. If there is ever going to be a breakthrough in this case, it won't come from the British establishment. I am just hoping that if the Portuguese Police Files are released for public viewing, an already increasingly sceptical public will apply pressure on the UK authorities.Doug D wrote:Again not in the written statement, just in the video clip for some reason:
‘Firstly, the parents involvement. That was dealt with at the time, the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material, we’re happy that’s completely dealt with, and there’s no reason whatsoever to reopen that or to start rumours that that’s a line of investigation, ……..’
so confirming absolutely that OG was working to a restricted remit and not taking everything back to square one.
Also seemingly very much at odds with the recent Portuguese Supreme Court ruling in the Amaral case where it was made abundantly clear that the McCanns were never cleared based on the archiving:
(2. The Supreme Court stated, in its ruling, that the above is no argument because the McCanns were not considered innocent by the investigation and the case was archived because not enough evidence was found to charge them.)
If we had a MSM with any balls, Rowley could be in for some serious hammer tomorrow, but as we all know he won't be.
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This is so completely mind-blowingly outrageous.Doug D wrote:Again not in the written statement, just in the video clip for some reason:
‘Firstly, the parents involvement. That was dealt with at the time, the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material, we’re happy that’s completely dealt with, and there’s no reason whatsoever to reopen that or to start rumours that that’s a line of investigation, ……..’
I want to scream.
This is cover-up.
Pure and simple.
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I share your feelings BlueBag!BlueBag wrote:This is so completely mind-blowingly outrageous.Doug D wrote:Again not in the written statement, just in the video clip for some reason:
‘Firstly, the parents involvement. That was dealt with at the time, the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material, we’re happy that’s completely dealt with, and there’s no reason whatsoever to reopen that or to start rumours that that’s a line of investigation, ……..’
I want to scream.
This is cover-up.
Pure and simple.
However, I believe the Met will continue to fail in their endeavor to whitewash this crime, and Goncalo Amaral will ultimately have the last and only convincing word.
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Somebody... SOMEBODY.... has to challenge Rowley over that blatantly false claim about the parents involvement has been dealt with.
The parents have not been cleared... that is a Portuguese legal FACT.
Is there any way for the public to hold him to account?
Police complaints?
The parents have not been cleared... that is a Portuguese legal FACT.
Is there any way for the public to hold him to account?
Police complaints?
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Three articles about the McCann case in today's Daly Mail. One of them has a video of the Mark Rowley interview but my nerves wouldn't cope with listening to it. I did read the article though and this is a quote
" He also ruled out that Madeleine's parents Gerry and Kate McCann were involved in her abduction and said she could still be alive."
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Given that there is no evidence of an abduction, could this be sloppy speaking or something else ? He could have said disappearance if he had wished to be accurate.
" He also ruled out that Madeleine's parents Gerry and Kate McCann were involved in her abduction and said she could still be alive."
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Given that there is no evidence of an abduction, could this be sloppy speaking or something else ? He could have said disappearance if he had wished to be accurate.
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A met Police email is here:
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I assume Mark Rowley will have a similar email?
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I assume Mark Rowley will have a similar email?
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If you look at the comments they are critical of the expense and also the parents leaving the kids alone.justagrannynow wrote:Three articles about the McCann case in today's Daly Mail. One of them has a video of the Mark Rowley interview but my nerves wouldn't cope with listening to it. I did read the article though and this is a quote
" He also ruled out that Madeleine's parents Gerry and Kate McCann were involved in her abduction and said she could still be alive."
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Given that there is no evidence of an abduction, could this be sloppy speaking or something else ? He could have said disappearance if he had wished to be accurate.
However there is a dog that is not barking.
(Two actually).
Carefully moderated comments.
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When I went to bed last night the headline on the Sky News page was about SY ruling out their 4 main suspects...overnight that has been whoosh/clunked and replaced by a headline emphasising their pursuit of a "significant" lead.
I personally feel that is very clearly because the previous headline is negative - it could lead people to think "oh well, if they've ruled out the 4 people they suspected who does that leave...?" whereas the more positive headline this morning is much friendlier to the McCann publicty machine.
I personally feel that is very clearly because the previous headline is negative - it could lead people to think "oh well, if they've ruled out the 4 people they suspected who does that leave...?" whereas the more positive headline this morning is much friendlier to the McCann publicty machine.
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Extract from "J'accuse", an open letter to the President of France 1898 from Émile Zola revealing the state cover-up of the guilt of Esterházy in the Dreyfus affair ...
"I repeat with the most vehement conviction: truth is on the march, and nothing will stop it. Today is only the beginning, for it is only today that the positions have become clear: on one side, those who are guilty, who do not want the light to shine forth, on the other, those who seek justice and who will give their lives to attain it. I said it before and I repeat it now: when truth is buried underground, it grows and it builds up so much force that the day it explodes it blasts everything with it. We shall see whether we have been setting ourselves up for the most resounding of disasters, yet to come."
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Of course, the truth broke through as it always does. And when it did it left an indelible stain on all who colluded in the cover up and upon France itself.
"I repeat with the most vehement conviction: truth is on the march, and nothing will stop it. Today is only the beginning, for it is only today that the positions have become clear: on one side, those who are guilty, who do not want the light to shine forth, on the other, those who seek justice and who will give their lives to attain it. I said it before and I repeat it now: when truth is buried underground, it grows and it builds up so much force that the day it explodes it blasts everything with it. We shall see whether we have been setting ourselves up for the most resounding of disasters, yet to come."
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Of course, the truth broke through as it always does. And when it did it left an indelible stain on all who colluded in the cover up and upon France itself.
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Mirage wrote:Extract from "J'accuse", an open letter to the President of France 1898 from Émile Zola revealing the state cover-up of the guilt of Esterházy in the Dreyfus affair ...
"I repeat with the most vehement conviction: truth is on the march, and nothing will stop it. Today is only the beginning, for it is only today that the positions have become clear: on one side, those who are guilty, who do not want the light to shine forth, on the other, those who seek justice and who will give their lives to attain it. I said it before and I repeat it now: when truth is buried underground, it grows and it builds up so much force that the day it explodes it blasts everything with it. We shall see whether we have been setting ourselves up for the most resounding of disasters, yet to come."
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Of course, the truth broke through as it always does. And when it did it left an indelible stain on all who colluded in the cover up and upon France itself.
Yes the truth will keep marching on, and trample right over Operation Grange's pathetic attempt to rewrite history!
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Yellow and Black3 minutes ago
You have to hand it to the McCann's as they have kept up the act of complete innocence for ten years without missing a beat. That has taken a bit of doing. One day we will know what happened
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Rosey May1 minute ago
Maybe they have a gun pointing at their heads too. This sad situation goes higher in authority. What's that little saying OH yea "HERE PIGGY PIGGY"
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Rosey May7 minutes ago
The police are at best pathetic these two parasites are killer's. The police are protecting them they're pooing their pants because the truth will eventually come out but not before they've destroyed people's lives who get too close to finding the truth.
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Paul Andrews10 minutes ago
Guilty as sin in my view! If the British police won't question them then they have got away with it, disgusting!
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gamebird justsayin'1 hour ago
There are many reason's the question the parent's, over £11 million's worth. Either question them or close the case completely. The police have achieved absolutely nothing, that money would have been used better on the NHS or school's funding.
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chiangmai11 hour ago
Please keep giving we are innocent really and we need another holiday.maybe a world cruise this time.honest we did nothing wrong
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Bea Smith2 hours ago
So the cops think the parents are innocent eh? Well britain does not!
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Areyouthere1 hour ago
Speak for yourself ,not me.
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Rosey May6 minutes ago
They killed their little girl they are sub humans
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PAUL ARCHER1 hour ago
@Bea Smith
A lot of Cops think they are covering up the truth.
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Matt mould3 hours ago
Poor child disgusting parents. How can you choose booze over your own children.
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Larry Palmer3 hours ago
If you are a detective, how do you keep your clients paying you? You tell them, periodically that there are " new " leads. The funds for Maddie, are for finding her, not to fund her parents lifestyle, or to fund there legal fees, and court costs. From the first time i saw the parents on the news, i thought there was something wrong. Nothing has changed my thoughts. This pair are leeching from the kindness of well wishers, and their donations. Because there is little evidence against them, does not mean they are not guilty.
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Walter Oldfartknocker3 hours ago
There are no leads, there have been no leads for over 6 years now. This case is closed, because the police refuse to question the two remaining suspects.
When will these two leave the limelight and get on with their lives?
I find it personally offensive that these two are hogging the headlines now for the past 2 months straight, and are always seeking newspaper headlines. That is the not the behaviour of two innocent people.
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PAUL ARCHER5 hours ago
The reality is, the Mccann's lost in the Portuguese Court cases, and it was said in the judgement that the Mccann's hadn't been rules out of involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
Rowley's speech was a whitewash.
SY have no idea what happened, and are clearly protecting the Mccann'supporters.
It is also a poor attempt to justify wasting millions on a failed investigation.
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Rosey May3 minutes ago
The police are covering their backs. Maybe some high up the chain parasite doesn't want to be found out too
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Tom Slekn7 hours ago
lies
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Walter Oldfartknocker3 hours ago
@Tom Slekn They have never acted like innocent people.
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Yellow and Black3 minutes ago
You have to hand it to the McCann's as they have kept up the act of complete innocence for ten years without missing a beat. That has taken a bit of doing. One day we will know what happened
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Rosey May1 minute ago
Maybe they have a gun pointing at their heads too. This sad situation goes higher in authority. What's that little saying OH yea "HERE PIGGY PIGGY"
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Rosey May7 minutes ago
The police are at best pathetic these two parasites are killer's. The police are protecting them they're pooing their pants because the truth will eventually come out but not before they've destroyed people's lives who get too close to finding the truth.
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Paul Andrews10 minutes ago
Guilty as sin in my view! If the British police won't question them then they have got away with it, disgusting!
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gamebird justsayin'1 hour ago
There are many reason's the question the parent's, over £11 million's worth. Either question them or close the case completely. The police have achieved absolutely nothing, that money would have been used better on the NHS or school's funding.
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chiangmai11 hour ago
Please keep giving we are innocent really and we need another holiday.maybe a world cruise this time.honest we did nothing wrong
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Bea Smith2 hours ago
So the cops think the parents are innocent eh? Well britain does not!
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Areyouthere1 hour ago
Speak for yourself ,not me.
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Rosey May6 minutes ago
They killed their little girl they are sub humans
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PAUL ARCHER1 hour ago
@Bea Smith
A lot of Cops think they are covering up the truth.
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Matt mould3 hours ago
Poor child disgusting parents. How can you choose booze over your own children.
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Larry Palmer3 hours ago
If you are a detective, how do you keep your clients paying you? You tell them, periodically that there are " new " leads. The funds for Maddie, are for finding her, not to fund her parents lifestyle, or to fund there legal fees, and court costs. From the first time i saw the parents on the news, i thought there was something wrong. Nothing has changed my thoughts. This pair are leeching from the kindness of well wishers, and their donations. Because there is little evidence against them, does not mean they are not guilty.
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Walter Oldfartknocker3 hours ago
There are no leads, there have been no leads for over 6 years now. This case is closed, because the police refuse to question the two remaining suspects.
When will these two leave the limelight and get on with their lives?
I find it personally offensive that these two are hogging the headlines now for the past 2 months straight, and are always seeking newspaper headlines. That is the not the behaviour of two innocent people.
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PAUL ARCHER5 hours ago
The reality is, the Mccann's lost in the Portuguese Court cases, and it was said in the judgement that the Mccann's hadn't been rules out of involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
Rowley's speech was a whitewash.
SY have no idea what happened, and are clearly protecting the Mccann'supporters.
It is also a poor attempt to justify wasting millions on a failed investigation.
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The police are covering their backs. Maybe some high up the chain parasite doesn't want to be found out too
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Tom Slekn7 hours ago
lies
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@Tom Slekn They have never acted like innocent people.
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Re: Scotland Yard to Make announcement about Madeleine Mc Cann
Justagrannynow:
‘video of the Mark Rowley interview but my nerves wouldn't cope with listening to it. I did read the article though and this is a quote’
‘Given that there is no evidence of an abduction, could this be sloppy speaking or something else ? He could have said disappearance if he had wished to be accurate.’
It’s only 5 minutes out of your life and worth a view to see him actually say ‘they have a full understanding’, his admittance that the McCann’s are untouchable under the OG remit as they were fully investigated by the PJ, which of course the Supreme Court has confirmed in the last couple of weeks was not the case, and a load of waffle about what is an abduction, even if it isn’t.
Having gone on a video record with all this crap, one day it’s just got to come back and bite him on the bum. Hopefully plenty of people have already saved the video so it can never be completely whooshed.
‘video of the Mark Rowley interview but my nerves wouldn't cope with listening to it. I did read the article though and this is a quote’
‘Given that there is no evidence of an abduction, could this be sloppy speaking or something else ? He could have said disappearance if he had wished to be accurate.’
It’s only 5 minutes out of your life and worth a view to see him actually say ‘they have a full understanding’, his admittance that the McCann’s are untouchable under the OG remit as they were fully investigated by the PJ, which of course the Supreme Court has confirmed in the last couple of weeks was not the case, and a load of waffle about what is an abduction, even if it isn’t.
Having gone on a video record with all this crap, one day it’s just got to come back and bite him on the bum. Hopefully plenty of people have already saved the video so it can never be completely whooshed.
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Please watch the video blue bag. He does not say this, this is media spin. What he does say is about the parents involvement, " that was dealt with at the time,the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material we're happy that's completely dealt with..."
Am i the only one that's reading this as a good thing?? He nowhere says the parents are innocent or cleared or not persons of interest. I don't really understand why people expect him to say "Yup the parents did it, that's the last line of inquiry".
There is a copy of the full transcript, questions included, on the OFM site but I don't know how to bring it over to here.
Am i the only one that's reading this as a good thing?? He nowhere says the parents are innocent or cleared or not persons of interest. I don't really understand why people expect him to say "Yup the parents did it, that's the last line of inquiry".
There is a copy of the full transcript, questions included, on the OFM site but I don't know how to bring it over to here.
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Doug D wrote:Justagrannynow:
‘video of the Mark Rowley interview but my nerves wouldn't cope with listening to it. I did read the article though and this is a quote’
‘Given that there is no evidence of an abduction, could this be sloppy speaking or something else ? He could have said disappearance if he had wished to be accurate.’
It’s only 5 minutes out of your life and worth a view to see him actually say ‘they have a full understanding’, his admittance that the McCann’s are untouchable under the OG remit as they were fully investigated by the PJ, which of course the Supreme Court has confirmed in the last couple of weeks was not the case, and a load of waffle about what is an abduction, even if it isn’t.
Having gone on a video record with all this crap, one day it’s just got to come back and bite him on the bum. Hopefully plenty of people have already saved the video so it can never be completely whooshed.
Retirement with full pension perhaps?
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I've written to DCI Nicola Wall again this morning.
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Re: Scotland Yard to Make announcement about Madeleine Mc Cann
So from the horses mouth:
Q: Just to be clear you did not interview the McCanns as potential suspects?
MR: No
Q: Just to be clear you did not interview the McCanns as potential suspects?
MR: No
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Maybe their "last critical line of enquiry" will do just that?Doug D wrote:So from the horses mouth:
Q: Just to be clear you did not interview the McCanns as potential suspects?
MR: No
MR: Did you abduct your daughter as per our remit?
K&G: No, and that's an emphatic NO.
OK, case closed.
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Just look at the difference in the comments on The Sun, where they are not censored and the Daily Mail where they are!
No comments saying the parents should be looked at in the DM, a plethora of comments saying they should be questioned and it's a cover-up in The Sun!
No comments saying the parents should be looked at in the DM, a plethora of comments saying they should be questioned and it's a cover-up in The Sun!
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ChippyM wrote:Just look at the difference in the comments on The Sun, where they are not censored and the Daily Mail where they are!
No comments saying the parents should be looked at in the DM, a plethora of comments saying they should be questioned and it's a cover-up in The Sun!
Good point. This is the latest comment in The Sun. (Just copied and pasted - can't do screen shot)
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Where does it say they have no reason to investigate the parents in that statement? In a video interview Mark Rowley says ''‘Firstly, the parents involvement. That was dealt with at the time, the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material, we’re happy that’s completely dealt with"
Yet we know this year the Portuguese Supreme court ruled "..."It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case. .....the archive ruling raises serious concerns relating to the truth of the allegation that Madeleine was kidnapped."
The original Portuguese investigation also concluded that ; “She died in the apartment as a result of a tragic accident and the parents simulated an abduction after failing to care of their children,” Tavares de Almeida, former chief inspector at Portimao police station during the initial months of the investigation, told the court in Lisbon. “These were the conclusions of a police report signed by me on September 10 2007,” he added.
So how can Scotland Yard ignore this and be happy to ignore it? Why does the media keep repeating these statements that the parents have been cleared?"
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Bubble wrote:Please watch the video blue bag. He does not say this, this is media spin. What he does say is about the parents involvement, " that was dealt with at the time,the original investigation, by the Portuguese, all the material we're happy that's completely dealt with..."
Am i the only one that's reading this as a good thing?? He nowhere says the parents are innocent or cleared or not persons of interest. I don't really understand why people expect him to say "Yup the parents did it, that's the last line of inquiry".
There is a copy of the full transcript, questions included, on the OFM site but I don't know how to bring it over to here.
From the transcript:
"Q: Just to be clear you did not interview the McCanns as potential suspects?
MR: No"
I don't see anything good about that.
Did they do the bog standard policing?
Nope.
EVERYTHING but.
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