The Mystery of the Make-Up Photo - was it taken on the same day as the Last Photo?
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Re: The Mystery of the Make-Up Photo - was it taken on the same day as the Last Photo?
So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd. So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some bastard picked up on that.
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There you have it.Verdi wrote:So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd. So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some bastard picked up on that.
Jon Corner [Vanity Fair]
This text and that photo, when combined the question to why they released it is answered.
Some sort of bizarre marketing.
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Re: The Mystery of the Make-Up Photo - was it taken on the same day as the Last Photo?
None of these 21 reasons indicate the picture is taken on 29 April and might as well been taken on 3 May or another day on their vacation.Tony Bennett wrote:Whilst this topic is active on the forum, it may well be useful to post a reminder of why the Make-Up Photo may be critical to a proper understanding of what really happened to Madeleine McCann:
21 reasons for thinking the Make-Up Photo was taken on Sunday 29 April 2007
1 The Make-Up photo first appeared in a 2-minute video made by Jon Corner
2 He clearly had access to the photo in order to make the video.
3 For some reason he was in possession of lots of photos of Madeleine
4 The original story from the McCanns was that it was taken “when Maddie was playing with Mummy’s make-up”, No details of place or time were given
5 That seems unlikely in the extreme. Madeleine is wearing a necklace and a hair-bead/elastic. At the age of three it is impossible that she could have put these on herself.
6 Madeleine clearly has eye shadow, which seems neatly applied and not the sort of mess a child would make. Many observers say she is wearing lipstick and even eye-liner. If we forget about the lipstick and the eyeliner, that still leaves the question of who applied the eye shadow
7 It seems probable that this photograph was not taken on the McCanns’ camera. It certainly wasn’t among the photos handed in to the Portuguese Police by Gerry McCann, Michael Wright and Bell Pottinger’s Head of Risk on 8 and 9 May 2007
8 The background to this photo is a stucco wall apparently of yellow, dark cream or light ochre colour. This is extremely untypical of homes in the United Kingdom but extreme;y typical of houses and apartments on the Algarve coast
9 The presence of what is almost certainly an outside thermometer in the shot is another typical feature of Mediterranean houses
10 Madeleine’s face looks precisely the same age as it is on the so-called ‘Last Photo’, which many have concluded was overwhelmingly likely to have been taken on Sunday lunchtime, Sunday 29 April
11 Madeleine’s hair length is identical to that on the Last Photo
12 Madeleine’s hair colour is identical to that on the Last Photo
13 There are several indications that the Last Photo and the Make-Up photo were aken close together in time
14 In both photos, Madeleine is wearing a pink/white hair-bead or elastic. Admittedly they are in different positions but it is suggestive of an adult dressing her up
15 In both photos, Madeleine is wearing a pink dress or smock, very possibly the same dress
16 The photo is disturbing. We have four pictures of Madeleine enjoying herself on the Saturday and Sunday (Playground Photo, two Wendy House photos, and the ‘Last Photo’). Why does she look vacant, unhappy and sad?
17 Why is her head tipped back like that? Was she asked to pose like that?
18 The cameraman, whoever it was, seems to have taken this photo with the camera held below Madeleine’s waist. Why such a strange camera angle and why is her head tipped back?
19 Why are there no other photos of her in this location? Was this a one-off, or were there more photos of her?
20 Why, if this photo was indeed taken on Sunday 29 April, and if the Last Photo was also taken on 29 April, are there no other confirmed photos of Madeleine that week? (The Tennis Balls Photo doesn’t count, it was said to have been taken by up to three different people on at least two different days. Moreover, the description by Kate McCann of her charging back to get her camera, while Madeleine waited for several minutes holding some tennis balls, doesn’t ring true – see PeterMac’s two chapters on the Tennis Balls Photo in his ebook).
21 Did Madeleine suffer a ‘serious event’ of some kind soon after the Make-Up Photo was taken?
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Why might this photo have been taken on Sunday 29 April and not later in the week?
Here are at least four good reasons:
1. Madeleine appears to be wearing the same pink dress/smock that she was wearing in the 'Last Photo', which we can be certain was taken on 29 April, the only sunny, warm day that week
2. In both the Last Photo and the Make-Up Photo, Madeleine is wearing a hair bead or piece of elastic. That suggests that someone was dressing her up that day
3. We have no other photos of her that week, apart from the highly dubious and disputed Tennis Balls Photo. Thus the most likely date it was taken was Sunday
4. Lizzy HideHo has shown in her research that there are no credible, independent sightings of Madeleine after Sunday. Once again, that points us to this disturbing Make-Up Photo having been taken on Sunday
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Re: The Mystery of the Make-Up Photo - was it taken on the same day as the Last Photo?
How am I avoiding the possibility by merely saying that those 21 reason given don't necessarily indicate it was taken on 29?nyxy wrote:None of these 21 reasons indicate the picture is taken on 29 April and might as well been taken on 3 May or another day on their vacation.Tony Bennett wrote:Whilst this topic is active on the forum, it may well be useful to post a reminder of why the Make-Up Photo may be critical to a proper understanding of what really happened to Madeleine McCann:
21 reasons for thinking the Make-Up Photo was taken on Sunday 29 April 2007
1 The Make-Up photo first appeared in a 2-minute video made by Jon Corner
2 He clearly had access to the photo in order to make the video.
3 For some reason he was in possession of lots of photos of Madeleine
4 The original story from the McCanns was that it was taken “when Maddie was playing with Mummy’s make-up”, No details of place or time were given
5 That seems unlikely in the extreme. Madeleine is wearing a necklace and a hair-bead/elastic. At the age of three it is impossible that she could have put these on herself.
6 Madeleine clearly has eye shadow, which seems neatly applied and not the sort of mess a child would make. Many observers say she is wearing lipstick and even eye-liner. If we forget about the lipstick and the eyeliner, that still leaves the question of who applied the eye shadow
7 It seems probable that this photograph was not taken on the McCanns’ camera. It certainly wasn’t among the photos handed in to the Portuguese Police by Gerry McCann, Michael Wright and Bell Pottinger’s Head of Risk on 8 and 9 May 2007
8 The background to this photo is a stucco wall apparently of yellow, dark cream or light ochre colour. This is extremely untypical of homes in the United Kingdom but extreme;y typical of houses and apartments on the Algarve coast
9 The presence of what is almost certainly an outside thermometer in the shot is another typical feature of Mediterranean houses
10 Madeleine’s face looks precisely the same age as it is on the so-called ‘Last Photo’, which many have concluded was overwhelmingly likely to have been taken on Sunday lunchtime, Sunday 29 April
11 Madeleine’s hair length is identical to that on the Last Photo
12 Madeleine’s hair colour is identical to that on the Last Photo
13 There are several indications that the Last Photo and the Make-Up photo were aken close together in time
14 In both photos, Madeleine is wearing a pink/white hair-bead or elastic. Admittedly they are in different positions but it is suggestive of an adult dressing her up
15 In both photos, Madeleine is wearing a pink dress or smock, very possibly the same dress
16 The photo is disturbing. We have four pictures of Madeleine enjoying herself on the Saturday and Sunday (Playground Photo, two Wendy House photos, and the ‘Last Photo’). Why does she look vacant, unhappy and sad?
17 Why is her head tipped back like that? Was she asked to pose like that?
18 The cameraman, whoever it was, seems to have taken this photo with the camera held below Madeleine’s waist. Why such a strange camera angle and why is her head tipped back?
19 Why are there no other photos of her in this location? Was this a one-off, or were there more photos of her?
20 Why, if this photo was indeed taken on Sunday 29 April, and if the Last Photo was also taken on 29 April, are there no other confirmed photos of Madeleine that week? (The Tennis Balls Photo doesn’t count, it was said to have been taken by up to three different people on at least two different days. Moreover, the description by Kate McCann of her charging back to get her camera, while Madeleine waited for several minutes holding some tennis balls, doesn’t ring true – see PeterMac’s two chapters on the Tennis Balls Photo in his ebook).
21 Did Madeleine suffer a ‘serious event’ of some kind soon after the Make-Up Photo was taken?
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Why might this photo have been taken on Sunday 29 April and not later in the week?
Here are at least four good reasons:
1. Madeleine appears to be wearing the same pink dress/smock that she was wearing in the 'Last Photo', which we can be certain was taken on 29 April, the only sunny, warm day that week
2. In both the Last Photo and the Make-Up Photo, Madeleine is wearing a hair bead or piece of elastic. That suggests that someone was dressing her up that day
3. We have no other photos of her that week, apart from the highly dubious and disputed Tennis Balls Photo. Thus the most likely date it was taken was Sunday
4. Lizzy HideHo has shown in her research that there are no credible, independent sightings of Madeleine after Sunday. Once again, that points us to this disturbing Make-Up Photo having been taken on Sunday
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It seems rather you Moderator are very desperate to propagate your theory that it must have been on 29 and so invested in it that you're trying to make the evidence fit your narrative.
I am actually exploring that possibility but I don't take anyone's opinions as gospel. Those 4 reasons you give can indicate that the picture was taken on or around 29.
Also said it wrong and what I meant to say is that a lot of those 21 reasons don't indicate it was taken on 29 April.
I think there are some well laid out arguments on both side of the fence whether it be 3 May or in the days before.
And I am certainly not excluding either possibility.
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I thought this was a forum for open minded discussion about this case. Not where you as a moderator start calling new members "desperate to avoid a possibility" because they merely question some of the assumptions you make.
Why alienate new members like this? Do you call everyone that doesn't agree with all your assumptions at the drop of a dime desperate, is this really how you intend to persuade others of your own narrative?
It is very ironic because I am actually more in favor that something happened earlier then 3 May.
Why alienate new members like this? Do you call everyone that doesn't agree with all your assumptions at the drop of a dime desperate, is this really how you intend to persuade others of your own narrative?
It is very ironic because I am actually more in favor that something happened earlier then 3 May.
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As 'the' forum moderator, I should like to apologize on behalf of the forum for the unfortunate reception you received so soon after joining CMOMM. It was indeed a brusque unwelcome which, if you don't object, I will excuse as a sort of technical hitch.
Please be assured it has been addressed by the admin team and there will not be a repetition.
Can we start again?
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Without constructive commentary open to further scrutiny, how can we ever move forward towards the ultimate goal - justice in the name of Madeleine McCann.
If you are wavering on the subject of when the last photograph was most probably taken (not the make-up image I hasten to add), perhaps you might like to read forum member PeterMac's exemplary analysis. You are not asked nor expected to agree with anything or everything, only that you consider the evidence that supports the conclusion of the many dedicated researchers and analysts who have devoted so much personal time and energy to the subject of the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann.
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As 'the' forum moderator, I should like to apologize on behalf of the forum for the unfortunate reception you received so soon after joining CMOMM. It was indeed a brusque unwelcome which, if you don't object, I will excuse as a sort of technical hitch.
Please be assured it has been addressed by the admin team and there will not be a repetition.
Can we start again?
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If you are wavering on the subject of when the last photograph was most probably taken (not the make-up image I hasten to add), perhaps you might like to read forum member PeterMac's exemplary analysis. You are not asked nor expected to agree with anything or everything, only that you consider the evidence that supports the conclusion of the many dedicated researchers and analysts who have devoted so much personal time and energy to the subject of the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann.
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MayMuse wrote:I had a disturbing though. Gave me shivers down my spine. I almost felt sick. My thought was is the make up photo maddie after death? The victorians would do this disturbing thing with their kids, take photos and alter the images by adding make up to the corpse. Which would explain why the eyes seem lifeless and also would explain why the make up photo was altered. I really hope this is not the case. It may have been a warning to somebody.
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The make up photo is so pale. I think I am going to be sick. But to me the photo looks dead. Well it does, its pale and lifeless and the eyes have no emotion whatsoever they are glassy. I have to go.
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Sorry to repost on an old thread but I only saw this photo the other night and struggled to sleep, felt uneasy. Like a sick feeling in my stomach and yet I don't even have children yet.
I actually showed this to a few friends who have discussed the case before. Interestingly, 3 of them suggested that the blue object is a shoulder and her hair is being pulled back. One of them also suggested that she thinks Maddie could be dead in the photo due to the angle.
I note that Tony touched on the hidden messages in the initial post however he cannot see these. The video also makes me feel weird, not sure why the word information needs to come up so many times. Considering Jon Corner is a "professional".
Even worse, if this photo was taken on the Sunday and Maddie was alive. Could she have died in an incident following this picture? Still makes me feel sickly writing this now. Eww
I actually showed this to a few friends who have discussed the case before. Interestingly, 3 of them suggested that the blue object is a shoulder and her hair is being pulled back. One of them also suggested that she thinks Maddie could be dead in the photo due to the angle.
I note that Tony touched on the hidden messages in the initial post however he cannot see these. The video also makes me feel weird, not sure why the word information needs to come up so many times. Considering Jon Corner is a "professional".
Even worse, if this photo was taken on the Sunday and Maddie was alive. Could she have died in an incident following this picture? Still makes me feel sickly writing this now. Eww
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Good to see that Jon Corner has gone from strength to strengthVerdi wrote:Your question is shared by many an observer coati mundi, including me. Indeed, the entire content of Jon Corner's 2010 video appeal raises eyebrows, to say the least.
Sadly, it's the people behind sick videos that are feeding the child pornography industry.
Like every insalubrious aspect of life - if you don't feed it, it will starve and die.
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I’ve thought the same as your friend in that she’s dead. I would like to know who the ‘they’ are that Kate referred to when she called out to Gerry that ‘They’ve taken her’. Were K &G allowing people to go into their apartment to look at the children? Everything I think of feels sick and twisted but I can’t help feeling something vile went horribly wrong.PinkPanther wrote:Sorry to repost on an old thread but I only saw this photo the other night and struggled to sleep, felt uneasy. Like a sick feeling in my stomach and yet I don't even have children yet.
I actually showed this to a few friends who have discussed the case before. Interestingly, 3 of them suggested that the blue object is a shoulder and her hair is being pulled back. One of them also suggested that she thinks Maddie could be dead in the photo due to the angle.
I note that Tony touched on the hidden messages in the initial post however he cannot see these. The video also makes me feel weird, not sure why the word information needs to come up so many times. Considering Jon Corner is a "professional".
Even worse, if this photo was taken on the Sunday and Maddie was alive. Could she have died in an incident following this picture? Still makes me feel sickly writing this now. Eww
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That terrible comment that Kate made in her book about Madeleine’s perfect genitals being torn apart made feel physically sick.MTSTAR wrote:I’ve thought the same as your friend in that she’s dead. I would like to know who the ‘they’ are that Kate referred to when she called out to Gerry that ‘They’ve taken her’. Were K &G allowing people to go into their apartment to look at the children? Everything I think of feels sick and twisted but I can’t help feeling something vile went horribly wrong.PinkPanther wrote:Sorry to repost on an old thread but I only saw this photo the other night and struggled to sleep, felt uneasy. Like a sick feeling in my stomach and yet I don't even have children yet.
I actually showed this to a few friends who have discussed the case before. Interestingly, 3 of them suggested that the blue object is a shoulder and her hair is being pulled back. One of them also suggested that she thinks Maddie could be dead in the photo due to the angle.
I note that Tony touched on the hidden messages in the initial post however he cannot see these. The video also makes me feel weird, not sure why the word information needs to come up so many times. Considering Jon Corner is a "professional".
Even worse, if this photo was taken on the Sunday and Maddie was alive. Could she have died in an incident following this picture? Still makes me feel sickly writing this now. Eww
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The book was written for the twins. And now they are old enough to understand the terms, I wonder how they feel about it.
I wonder, incidentally, whether there is a copy in the house for them to see, and show to their little friends who pop round for tea and dinner at the bottom of the garden.
I wonder, incidentally, whether there is a copy in the house for them to see, and show to their little friends who pop round for tea and dinner at the bottom of the garden.
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The twins have already been damaged by media articles published about their school, a place held open for Madeleine, the school bus radio revelation about Amaral and Kate going on telly to talk about fear of leaving them in a car to pay for petrol.PeterMac wrote:The book was written for the twins. And now they are old enough to understand the terms, I wonder how they feel about it.
I wonder, incidentally, whether there is a copy in the house for them to see, and show to their little friends who pop round for tea and dinner at the bottom of the garden.
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PeterMac wrote:The book was written for the twins. And now they are old enough to understand the terms, I wonder how they feel about it.
I wonder, incidentally, whether there is a copy in the house for them to see, and show to their little friends who pop round for tea and dinner at the bottom of the garden.
Hi PeterMac, Happy Friday.
The question is, how many parents let their children visit the mccann house for tea?
How many go over and have/had play time and socializing with the twins?
How many, if any, allowed their children to have sleepovers at the mccann house?
If so, when did this start?
Do/did the mccanns let the twins go to other childrens houses for tea and or socializing?
If so when did this start?
I wonder if the twins have read the book?
Was there a copy in the house ready for the twins to read when they chose?
Did the mccanns ever read the book to the twins?
If the twins read the book and there wasn't a copy in the house, how did they read it?
If the twins read the book, did they ask kate and gerry questions about the contents?
If so would the mccanns have answered them?
If they answered them how believeable and honest were their answers?
Have kate and gerry, I wonder, ever spoken about the PJ and UK police and what they did ?
I wonder if the twins have ever asked why kate didn't answer the over 48 questions (there were more as several were compound questions which is a big no no)?
I wonder if the twins have ever asked why kate and gerry never searched for Maddie?
I wonder if the twins are allowed to talk freely about Maddie and their parents behavior and language?
If so when?
I wonder if the twins read on the internet about Maddie and the language and behavior of their parents in relation to the language and behavior of innocent parents as compared to guilty parents?
If so when did they start?
I wonder if kate and gerry have asked the twins what, if anything they remember of that vacation?
If so when?
I wonder, if the twins know more regarding what they remember about that vacation. would they tell kate and gerry everything they remember, such as, not seeing Maddie anytime after the Sunday/Monday?
If not, why?
Would it be because they thought that if they told kate and gerry they remember not seeing Maddie after a certain day, they might have an 'accident'
After all once you have killed something/someone, you have broken though that barrier and the second one is easier.
The more people/animals you kill the easier as you become more detached.
The same would go for any crime, once you have crossed that threshold and gotten away with it, you have lost that fear and it becomes easier.
Have the twins confided in each other?
Do kate and gerry fear that the twins might know something and go to the police?
Do they fear the twins might have or may decide to confide in a friend or teacher who will then go to the police?
Do the twins know something such as overhearing an argument from that vacation or during any of the last 13 years regarding Maddie such as who did what to her, what they did with her body, where they dumped her/disposed of her remains and are waiting until they reach 18/age of majority before saying or doing something as they can't be taken in to care by social services?
Have they ever looked in Maddie's bedroom at all the presents bought for her?
Given kate has told us she bought clothes for Maddie over the years, what have they done with all the toys and clothes bought for the younger Maddie such as when she was 5?
If they have moved them to the attic, have they ever looked there?
Did Amelie get all Maddie's clothes as she got older, including all the one bought for Maddie?
I wonder if there is anything kate and gerry have told the twins they cannot say/do/look at/look for?
As an aside, I wonder what would happen if a cadaver dog was brought to the house?
Am I the only one who for years, every time there was mention of police and ambulance being called to a house for an injured child wonder if it was in Rothley Towers?
Am I the only one who on hearing of someone injured/attacked in their house wonder if it is Rothley Towers?
Given all the stresses the mccanns are under from the original incident, maintaining the facade, suing various individuals and companies and , in the case of Dr. Gonçalo Amaral for over £1m, suing him in not only their names but that of the twins and Maddie and losing rather badly and having to pay not only their costs but also the costs of Dr. Gonçalo Amaral and currently trying to get that overturned by going to the ECHR, forgetting/ignoring their, I would assume Intelligent lawyers/not understanding etc that the ECHR cannot overturn a guilty verdict, cannot sue an individual only the state/relying on the tapas 7 to say nothing (If they are still talking to them)
The guilt eating away at them, especially kate,wondering if today is the day it all comes tumbling down?
Wondering if the PJ will let the Germans test the 'saliva' sample allegedly from a a young boy on the bed cover from the bed in the children's room in apartment 5a in PDL?
Having the Germans do further tests on the sample from the hire car and discovering that the 4 degraded markers that were too degraded to test then but can be tested bow due to modern advances.
The sample on the bed cover turning out to be semen as originally recorded and then mysteriously altered to saliva.
Then having to explain how semen came to be on the bed cover of a childs bed in the bedroom where Maddie was allegedly abducted from.
Having all the men provide a DNA sample for comparison and then wondering/knowing there is a match and possibly to whom.
Kate is emotionally fragile and has a vicious and violent temper as seen by her language in her book and in interviews where she uses words like"Furious, Raging, Incandescent"
Kicking and hitting things and explaining away by friends the large bruises on her wrists as her hitting the wall (although how she bruised her wrists like that hitting a wall when it would be her hands that would be hurt) and no mention of the ones on her upper arms.
All the bruises looking more like restraint bruises than temper bruises.
In one TV interview when talking about the alleged crying incident with Maddie, she held her arms out as if holding Maddie and shaking her violently when saying she should have asked her more aboutwhat happened rather than letting Maddie allegedly walk away as if nothing had happened.
In other interviews, kate spoke of committing a murder-suicide:
"It really isn't easy," coping. "Some days are better than others. ... There's days when you think, 'I can't do this anymore,' and you just want to press a button, and we're all gone, and it's all finished, and we're all together and gone. Wherever. But you can't, you know. Just occasionally you'll have a -- if you're having a really bad day, which we do. And you can't help but think that."
Not the thing any innocent parent would ever consider, especially given the belief their missing child could be found at any moment, definitely though the thoughts of a guilty parent who didn't want to do time in jail or even execution and didn't want their child(ren) living with someone else.
Over the years, the house must have been like a tinderbox, just wondering when kate will have a meltdown over a news article in the press about Dr. Gonçalo Amaral, especially when they lost (Boy it will be interesting when their cases gets dropped by the ECHR)
If it isn't then we will be asking a chit load of questions about how they can sue an individual in a criminal case when no one else has ever been allowed to and, also more importantly, who applied political pressure to get the ECHR to allow the case and why?
Media articles that don't paint them in a positive light or reminds readers about their awkward language and behavior after the alleged abductions, such as not physically searching:
Just things to ponder about?
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I wonder if the twins have...
...just things to ponder about
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The twins seem to be doing very well, actually.
For several years, they have been competing successfully in competitive sports such as swimming, athletics and cross-country, representing their school and athletics club at regional and even national events.
Kate McCann has for some time been the joint manager of the athletics club's Under-15 girls' cross-country team, a sport in which Amelia has competed very successfully for years.
This is publicly-available information on the internet, and reports about their athletic prowess regularly feature in their local newspaper, the Loughborough Echo, this one for example:
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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Re: The Mystery of the Make-Up Photo - was it taken on the same day as the Last Photo?
I expect it helps having a multi-million pound savings pot to dip in to to pay for all these sports. Many parents struggle to put food on the table, let alone pay entrance fees for swimming pools or athletics clubs.Tony Bennett wrote:Hobs wrote:
I wonder if the twins have...
...just things to ponder about
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The twins seem to be doing very well, actually.
For several years, they have been competing successfully in competitive sports such as swimming, athletics and cross-country, representing their school and athletics club at regional and even national events.
Kate McCann has for some time been the joint manager of the athletics club's Under-15 girls' cross-country team, a sport in which Amelia has competed very successfully for years.
This is publicly-available information on the internet, and reports about their athletic prowess regularly feature in their local newspaper, the Loughborough Echo, this one for example:
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Tried and failed to multi quote.
I was looking again at that blue eye-shadow pic.
Read a the last few comments, but not whole thread.
I agree with some awful suggestions.
Madeleine looks to be in a lying down position but photoshopped upright.
She could almost be in a post mortem photo.
I was looking again at that blue eye-shadow pic.
Read a the last few comments, but not whole thread.
I agree with some awful suggestions.
Madeleine looks to be in a lying down position but photoshopped upright.
She could almost be in a post mortem photo.
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As in "chapel of rest."
But this would be too sick. Surely they wouldn't put that out!?
And then I remember the words in K's book - as mentioned above. They clearly are that sick.
But this would be too sick. Surely they wouldn't put that out!?
And then I remember the words in K's book - as mentioned above. They clearly are that sick.
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I don't think you can come up with some of those suggestions unless you've actually lived them i.e. what KM has mentioned in her book (for the twins to read when they're older, ffs. )Lance De Boils wrote:As in "chapel of rest."
But this would be too sick. Surely they wouldn't put that out!?
And then I remember the words in K's book - as mentioned above. They clearly are that sick.
I can't imagine what that would do to the twins' minds.
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The book entry - bloody hell. Even if K had those thoughts, why write them down for publication? Very odd.
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Do we know where that photo was taken? Sorry if I missed that bit.
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I forgot to add that unless you've lived a crisis it's hard to even think about how you would react or say in a book. When I found my Mother dead on her bedroom floor it was a great shock and it's not something you could think about when it never happens because you don't know how you would feel or how you would react or cope until it happens.cookiemuncher wrote:I don't think you can come up with some of those suggestions unless you've actually lived them i.e. what KM has mentioned in her book (for the twins to read when they're older, ffs. )Lance De Boils wrote:As in "chapel of rest."
But this would be too sick. Surely they wouldn't put that out!?
And then I remember the words in K's book - as mentioned above. They clearly are that sick.
I can't imagine what that would do to the twins' minds.
That's why I believe that KM lived those "moments" she mentions in her book to describe them so clearly.
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Its terrible think that they dont see a problem in the makeup photo being published while she was missing. I dont know if anyone talked about it yet but her neck looks weird for me. In the left the line is not straight and in the right it looks more curved than it should be. But maybe is because of the light.
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Yes, the image has been discussed at great length - from the size and angle of the nose, right down to the mouth and sideways to the ear lobes and - that's only the beginning.
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I have an interpretation of the make-up photo that may not have been considered before. Could this have been the last photo? the last ever photo of Madeleine Post Mortem? But not in a sinister way. There is a lot of discussion around the blue colouration in the background and what item or object it could be, with suggestions ranging from a t-shirt to sun lounger or surfboard. But I have another suggestion. I think it might be the end of a dressing up dress that we are catching a glimpse of.
Gerry referred to Madeleine as a princess and we know from the videos that she loved to dress up.
What do we do when someone we love dies and we prepare them for the funeral? We dress them in something they like to wear.
The fairytale princess in Sleeping Beauty, Aurora, wore a pink dress but when they thought she had died she was laid to rest in a blue dress.
Was Madeleine wearing a Sleeping Beauty costume in this photo?
Was Madelene their sleeping beauty? The thought of death too much to bear so just endlessly asleep. (Hence the endless search)
When my mother died last year I did the same three things I think I see demonstrated here. Favourite outfit, Makeup and necklace.
She wore an outfit she loved, I painted her nails and I made her a daisy chain necklace from daisies in her garden like we did when I was a child.
I'd like to think if Madeleine is this little sleeping beauty that she is warmed by the Portuguese sun by day, bathed in the moonlight of the most extraordinary night sky and knows each twinkling star as her friend.
Gerry referred to Madeleine as a princess and we know from the videos that she loved to dress up.
What do we do when someone we love dies and we prepare them for the funeral? We dress them in something they like to wear.
The fairytale princess in Sleeping Beauty, Aurora, wore a pink dress but when they thought she had died she was laid to rest in a blue dress.
Was Madeleine wearing a Sleeping Beauty costume in this photo?
Was Madelene their sleeping beauty? The thought of death too much to bear so just endlessly asleep. (Hence the endless search)
When my mother died last year I did the same three things I think I see demonstrated here. Favourite outfit, Makeup and necklace.
She wore an outfit she loved, I painted her nails and I made her a daisy chain necklace from daisies in her garden like we did when I was a child.
I'd like to think if Madeleine is this little sleeping beauty that she is warmed by the Portuguese sun by day, bathed in the moonlight of the most extraordinary night sky and knows each twinkling star as her friend.
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Or perhaps the image is as it appears .... fake.
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