Re: McCann DISCREPANCIES : Their statements tell a 'story' that wasn't known...UNTIL NOW!

by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 17:06

Tennison wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Have you sent your research/discrepancies to the PJ?

Not to the PJ, no.

I was in contact with a few detectives at OG and I showed them my Remembering Madeleine Forum and some of its contents and the videos.

I was assured that "Everything, EVERYTHING would be looked at". (In general as well as my input)

You will notice that the top selection Category was put together specifically for them to view

Remembering Madeleine Forum
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by skyrocket 03.11.15 17:06

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] & @ HiDeHo - also interesting that the activity sheet shows mini tennis as a 'grass time' activity.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - photograph 'exif' data (dates; times; etc) which can be accessed with special software can be easily manipulated and is completely meaningless UNLESS the hardware (in this case a digital camera) is grabbed as soon as the photo has been taken and before any downloading has been done. It's very hard to see the data in the video clip but the date shown may be correct but may just be the date the photo was first downloaded from the camera's memory card. Several different dates are given in the data.

by Tennison 03.11.15 17:12

HiDeHo wrote:
Tennison wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Have you sent your research/discrepancies to the PJ?

Not to the PJ, no.

I was in contact with a few detectives at OG and I showed them my Remembering Madeleine Forum and some of its contents and the videos.

I was assured that "Everything, EVERYTHING would be looked at". (In general as well as my input)

You will notice that the top selection Category was put together specifically for them to view

Remembering Madeleine Forum
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Why not the PJ? It's their investigation is it not?

Isn't it considered that the OP is conducting a whitewash?

by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 17:17

skyrocket wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] & @ HiDeHo - also interesting that the activity sheet shows mini tennis as a 'grass time' activity.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - photograph 'exif' data (dates; times; etc) which can be accessed with special software can be easily manipulated and is completely meaningless UNLESS the hardware (in this case a digital camera) is grabbed as soon as the photo has been taken and before any downloading has been done. It's very hard to see the data in the video clip but the date shown may be correct but may just be the date the photo was first downloaded from the camera's memory card. Several different dates are given in the data.

I recall seeing a few days ago that the tennis pic was released on Saturday 5th May and may have been among the contents downloaded by Alex Woolfall.

I don't believe this photo was in the files and was therefore.maybe, taken on Kate's Canon Powershot which is the same as the Last Picture...

Not handed to the police (as far as we know from the files.

The only camera (Olympus) had no time data on it.

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by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 17:26

Tennison wrote:
HiDeHo wrote:
Tennison wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Have you sent your research/discrepancies to the PJ?

Not to the PJ, no.

I was in contact with a few detectives at OG and I showed them my Remembering Madeleine Forum and some of its contents and the videos.

I was assured that "Everything, EVERYTHING would be looked at". (In general as well as my input)

You will notice that the top selection Category was put together specifically for them to view

Remembering Madeleine Forum
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Why not the PJ? It's their investigation is it not?

Isn't it considered that the OP is conducting a whitewash?

I have spoken to the detectives seval times and for approximately 20 mins at a time.

Knowing they would not give out any information I was tuned in to reading between the lines of what they said..

I explained about how many members thought it was a whitewash.... about how Gerry and the statements showed many lies and he not only assured me that it went through the same format as other investigations...he did say at one point... 'Thats why its a murder squad'...

What reason would he have had to say that, if he didnt believe himself that this was more than just a missing child.

However... what the higher echelons decide is another matter but I'm convinced that the ground detectives were fully aware of all the issues we discuss (and apparently the computer 'geeks' as he referred to them as, keep an eye on social media sites..

Why haven't I sent t to the PJ?

Can't really answer that... Its just something I do, day to day...continually coming up with new issues..

Its not a start and finish project... its a HUGE research issue and sadly, I dont think anyone else has the time or patience to understand everything that I have discovered... sad1

by Tennison 03.11.15 17:30

Even more important, then, to send it to the people who can decipher it all - the PJ.

I would not, under any circumstances, give valuable research to Operation Grange who, as we know, do not consider the McCann couple to be suspects.

by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 17:39

Tennison wrote:Even more important, then, to send it to the people who can decipher it all - the PJ.

I would not, under any circumstances, give valuable research to Operation Grange who, as we know, do not consider the McCann couple to be suspects.

We don't know that for sure about them not considering them suspects...

I was told that they keep the investigation 'under the radar' to avoid any issues created. I was told that any 'media' interviews/comments can be understood in different ways by different people...

ie 'Parents are not suspects'

Does it mean they are telling us that because its true? (before releasing their final investigation results?)

Does it mean they are not suspects AT THAT TIME?

Does it mean they are not suspects IN THAT PARTICULAR INQUIRY? (There are several lines of Inquiry...and one of them may include the parents...

Until I hear differently, I am fully supportive that even though they dont have the ability to override a Portuguese investigation, they know exactly what happened...

I f the time comes and I am proven wrong... So be it, but I am not going to live under the shadow of negativity and waste my energy or lack motivation for something we don't know.

If the time comes I will deal with it then...

by Sophiebubbles 03.11.15 17:54

Tennison wrote:Even more important, then, to send it to the people who can decipher it all - the PJ.

I would not, under any circumstances, give valuable research to Operation Grange who, as we know, do not consider the McCann couple to be suspects.

@ Hi de Ho your work is ingenious.........please send it to the PJ as @ Tennison suggests....would do no harm, in fact would be very reassuring
they get to see your invaluable work also, just in case!!!!!!!! I honestly thought it was for them you put all your hard work together as well as
us the general public we know a lot has been witheld from PJ, I have been reading that very fact in another place (reputable) today.

by Tennison 03.11.15 17:55

@ HiDeHo Of course they know what happened. It was the British police that sent over the dogs etc.

It's the PJ who have all the files, even the ones that have not been released.

With respect, you say you have been doing your research for many years yet seem disillusioned that no one here is excited about it. Maybe they are overwhelmed with the amount of information to digest. Have they got the time to digest it? You have posted many links which would take members a long time to sift through and make sense of it all, whereas the PJ have been on the case since 2007 and will know a lot more about this case than anyone.

In my opinion the OG would like to draw an 'unsolved' conclusion to this case whereas the PJ would most likely prefer to solve it and put it to bed so that the Portuguese people can move on from a case that has caused so much damage, not least to Dr Amaral.

Dare I ask if you have sent your work to Dr Amaral then? If anyone has reason to get the McCann's into court to defend themselves, under oath, it would be him.

by plebgate 03.11.15 18:12

If British Detectives know about this forum I imagine the PJ would and also Rocky Amaral. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

by Sophiebubbles 03.11.15 18:27

Is it not a bit ambiguous to 'Imagine' Pj and Snr Amaral are up to date with all Hi de Ho's ingenious work, given the language barrier to boot?
not unlesss someone knows they are getting all this footage.....I certainly hope both are in the loop.

by plebgate 03.11.15 18:30

I imagine Pt followers of this case would have been only too happy to keep them in the loop and transcribe free of charge.

Of course you could always forward the links to them yourself Sophiebubbles.

by Guest 03.11.15 19:02

willowthewisp wrote:
Verdi wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:yes Verdi, I too for some reason thought that this activity was most likely of kids going back in evening for a short time to play before bed ? I just don't know why this is in my head ,in that way ? I am no good at trying to get back somewhere to find it either.joyce1938
I'll see if I can find something later. In the interim this is quite an interesting observation I found on YouTube..

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Hi Verdi,the person on the youtube video states, that when analysing the actual date of the Tennis photograph,states it was taken on the 5th of May 2007?

Yes, that's how I understand it. Is this a déjà vu moment as in the other 'last photograph' - the one at the poolside?

by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 19:05

Tennyson.. I don't think it is a much 'disillusioned' as much as sad...

I have it all retained in my brain. There is no 'one or two or hundred' discrepancies that are earth shattering but I will say, when viewed with the knowledge of all of them they are huge.

I can't expect anyone to 'see' what I see....

I guess the best analagy I can describe is that I see a 'movie' of the week they were on holiday, based on all their statements...which is impossible to release with any more than one character at a time because each of their storylines are not compatible with anyone else...

I 'see' what Kate tells us, Gerry, Jane etc

They are all creating different movies..Once put together it would be a mish mash of sequences that would mean nothing, although the storyline is holiday based, the individual sequences are different...

Imagine a TV sequence where three characters are supposed to be picking up a child... How can you put together a scene where one says they picked up the child alone... another went together with a friend following such and suc activity, and the third character went with the friend to pick up the child but was under different circumstances...

How could ANY producer put that scene together accurately...? They can't!

This is what I see in my head over the course of the holiday from Tuesday onward... Let's say 50 different scenes where noone tells the same story.

No amount of pointing out any one scene to onlookers that dont see ALL the issues would convince them the movie cant be made...

HOWEVER...When one looks from a different angle, the story CAN be told...

Instead of looking WHAT happened and looking at the WHY none of them could corroborate each others story (ie IT DIDN'T HAPPEN) only THEN can the movie be produced to show the REASON that none of them seemed to be telling the truth...

They had something to hide...

THEN the movie explains why its CLEARLY a blockbuster movie because the discrepancies become the EXPLANATION of a tragedy that has happened and how they tried to hide it and NOT a detailed description of what led up to the tragedy.

Thats the story I have in my head and once the discrepancies are recognised as trying to cover up something that has happened everything starts to 'fit' and is explained like puzzle pieces having a meaning after all..

It's been a journey for me to get to this point and as I said before, I feel sad that it is too long and complicated to explain to anyone...

BUT its ALL based on facts...

by Sophiebubbles 03.11.15 19:16

@ Plebgate I notice the word 'imagine' again being used, we are in scary times IMO so I would reiterate It would be good to know for certain
the PJ and Snr Amaral were aware of all @ Hi de Ho's work (which I cannot praise enough) as so much work has been researched and I do not
take that for granted.

As for me sending links, If I could I would if it gave us certainty PJ and Snr Amaral had all that vital info, unfortunately, you may have noticed
I have only started posting, although I am not new to the case in hand I am new to posting on this Forum so technically I can't, as I wouldn't
have the foggiest where to start, but there is no shame in expressing my hope that they do know everything there is to know for a just outcome
all round, just sharing my opinion.

by Guest 03.11.15 19:20

HiDeHo wrote:

Once everyone (like yourself) starts to see that not only is it a matter of WHO may be telling the truth, but more obviously whether ANY of them are telling the truth!

I think that simple statement applies to the whole groups version of all events during that week, from beginning to end. In defence of Goncalo Amaral and the PJ, I believe that reality was major stumbling block from the word go, as he realised within the first seventy two hours of MBM being reported missing.

http://truthofthelie.com/the-book/

Personally, I don't believe any of them.

by Guest 03.11.15 19:23

HiDeHo wrote:Tennyson.. I don't think it is a much 'disillusioned' as much as sad...

I have it all retained in my brain. There is no 'one or two or hundred' discrepancies that are earth shattering but I will say, when viewed with the knowledge of all of them they are huge.

I can't expect anyone to 'see' what I see....

I guess the best analagy I can describe is that I see a 'movie' of the week they were on holiday, based on all their statements...which is impossible to release with any more than one character at a time because each of their storylines are not compatible with anyone else...

I 'see' what Kate tells us, Gerry, Jane etc

They are all creating different movies..Once put together it would be a mish mash of sequences that would mean nothing, although the storyline is holiday based, the individual sequences are different...

Imagine a TV sequence where three characters are supposed to be picking up a child... How can you put together a scene where one says they picked up the child alone... another went together with a friend following such and suc activity, and the third character went with the friend to pick up the child but was under different circumstances...

How could ANY producer put that scene together accurately...? They can't!

This is what I see in my head over the course of the holiday from Tuesday onward... Let's say 50 different scenes where noone tells the same story.

No amount of pointing out any one scene to onlookers that dont see ALL the issues would convince them the movie cant be made...

HOWEVER...When one looks from a different angle, the story CAN be told...

Instead of looking WHAT happened and looking at the WHY none of them could corroborate each others story (ie IT DIDN'T HAPPEN) only THEN can the movie be produced to show the REASON that none of them seemed to be telling the truth...

They had something to hide...

THEN the movie explains why its CLEARLY a blockbuster movie because the discrepancies become the EXPLANATION of a tragedy that has happened and how they tried to hide it and NOT a detailed description of what led up to the tragedy.

Thats the story I have in my head and once the discrepancies are recognised as trying to cover up something that has happened everything starts to 'fit' and is explained like puzzle pieces having a meaning after all..

It's been a journey for me to get to this point and as I said before, I feel sad that it is too long and complicated to explain to anyone...

BUT its ALL based on facts...

HideHo, I want to say a huge thank you for your detailed research and hard work over many years. I believe what you have produced is very important. This forum is fortunate to have you here. :flower:

by Guest 03.11.15 20:19

Sophiebubbles wrote:@ Plebgate I notice the word 'imagine' again being used, we are in scary times IMO so I would reiterate It would be good to know for certain
the PJ and Snr Amaral were aware of all @ Hi de Ho's work (which I cannot praise enough) as so much work has been researched and I do not
take that for granted.

As for me sending links, If I could I would if it gave us certainty PJ and Snr Amaral had all that vital info, unfortunately, you may have noticed
I have only started posting, although I am not new to the case in hand I am new to posting on this Forum so technically I can't, as I wouldn't
have the foggiest where to start, but there is no shame in expressing my hope that they do know everything there is to know for a just outcome
all round, just sharing my opinion.

There are any number of people who have dedicated a heck of a lot of time and energy to researching this case since the beginning, thankfully some of whom have direct links with Goncalo Amaral so, I think you can rest assured he is not deprived of important information.

That aside, he is no fool. I believe he had the case sussed from the beginning but due to the McCanns and their friends lies and inconsistences + external interference mainly emanating from the UK and the McCanns hired private detectives (who were operating illegally on Portuguese territory), he was prevented from following the investigation through to a satisfactory conclusion.

Enter Operation Grange and auxiliary diligences, who must be leaping with joy when their online spooks read everything the people on the ground are thinking. How does the saying go - keep your friends close but your enemies closer?

by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 20:34

Thank you all for the nice comments but I would really prefer for it not to be about accolades..

I have been fortunate and passionate enough to spend my time on something that I consider very important... I am sufficiently proud of what I have achieved soI am not needy for acknowledgement...but I WOULD love to see members open their eyes to what may have gone on that week IF something happened to Madeleine earlier...and then see the penny drop when it comes to explaining all the odd things that happened that week...that there is a REASON the MCanns tended to distance themselves from activities with others...separate breakfasts, no lunchtime visits to friends apartments... Twins in creche in the afternoon...

Cleaner claiming a cot was in their bedroom and they DENIED it... Text messages that started to arrive Wednesday morning at 8am... the mrnng after the crying that Mrs Fenn heard...

Lots and lots of odd things happening...and there was a reason...and to have any members suddenly 'see' that 'YES!' contradictions and discrepancies of that volume do NOT happen unless there has been something to hide...

I, and others, believe we know WHAT...and THAT'S what the files tell me...

Thank you everyone for believing in me.. that makes me happy :)

by **HiDeHo** 03.11.15 20:50

Just something I wanted to add randomly here..

I was just posting it in HDH and decided that some members here may be interested to consider what he claims in this video..

According to Goncalo Amaral they never really believed Jane from the start and the reason is something which he revealed in an interview...

Apparently, accoding to Goncalo Amaral the T9 ALL entered through the patio doors and NOT the front entrances.

That information is not in the files ...you can see it here.. (link should take you to the correct portion of the video)

MUST SEE! - Gonçalo Amaral returns to Praia da Luz (Translated) Feb 2012
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SEE 18.40 into the video

by Sophiebubbles 03.11.15 20:53

Verdi wrote:
Sophiebubbles wrote:@ Plebgate I notice the word 'imagine' again being used, we are in scary times IMO so I would reiterate It would be good to know for certain
the PJ and Snr Amaral were aware of all @ Hi de Ho's work (which I cannot praise enough) as so much work has been researched and I do not
take that for granted.

As for me sending links, If I could I would if it gave us certainty PJ and Snr Amaral had all that vital info, unfortunately, you may have noticed
I have only started posting, although I am not new to the case in hand I am new to posting on this Forum so technically I can't, as I wouldn't
have the foggiest where to start, but there is no shame in expressing my hope that they do know everything there is to know for a just outcome
all round, just sharing my opinion.
There are any number of people who have dedicated a heck of a lot of time and energy to researching this case since the beginning, thankfully some of whom have direct links with Goncalo Amaral so, I think you can rest assured he is not deprived of important information.

That aside, he is no fool. I believe he had the case sussed from the beginning but due to the McCanns and their friends lies and inconsistences + external interference mainly emanating from the UK and the McCanns hired private detectives (who were operating illegally on Portuguese territory), he was prevented from following the investigation through to a satisfactory conclusion.

Enter Operation Grange and auxiliary diligences, who must be leaping with joy when their online spooks read everything the people on the ground are thinking. How does the saying go - keep your friends close but your enemies closer?

Thank you @ Verdi, I appreciate your response, I do feel much more rest assured.......I suppose you have just said some things that have enlightened me more regarding this topic.

by HelenMeg 03.11.15 22:26

Just regarding earlier discussion re tennis -it may be of use to read Bridget's account again when she mentions specific day for tennis and taking photos:

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Lets hope her 'account' doesn't come back to bite her...

by plebgate 04.11.15 1:31

Sophiebubbles wrote:@ Plebgate I notice the word 'imagine' again being used, we are in scary times IMO so I would reiterate It would be good to know for certain
the PJ and Snr Amaral were aware of all @ Hi de Ho's work (which I cannot praise enough) as so much work has been researched and I do not
take that for granted.

As for me sending links, If I could I would if it gave us certainty PJ and Snr Amaral had all that vital info, unfortunately, you may have noticed
I have only started posting, although I am not new to the case in hand I am new to posting on this Forum so technically I can't, as I wouldn't
have the foggiest where to start, but there is no shame in expressing my hope that they do know everything there is to know for a just outcome
all round, just sharing my opinion.

I also imagine some posters might find it of interest to know exactly what is being sent to PJ and Rocky.

To send a link simply highlight, copy and then paste to whichever site you want to post it on. Simples. Same as with any other site you may have posted on.

by lj 04.11.15 2:17

willowthewisp wrote:
Verdi wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:yes Verdi, I too for some reason thought that this activity was most likely of kids going back in evening for a short time to play before bed ? I just don't know why this is in my head ,in that way ? I am no good at trying to get back somewhere to find it either.joyce1938
I'll see if I can find something later. In the interim this is quite an interesting observation I found on YouTube..

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Hi Verdi,the person on the youtube video states, that when analysing the actual date of the Tennis photograph,states it was taken on the 5th of May 2007?

If the photo has been transferred to another directory or drive the "date created" will change to the date the copy was created. On my computer the date "modified" often keeps the original date.

by skyrocket 04.11.15 8:15

Interesting blog about MarkWarner Lavante Beach, Rhodes resort mini tennis.

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Note: mini court set up and use of mini tennis equipment (including 2 colour soft balls). Also, sessions seem to concentrate on standing in one position - learning how to hold a racket and how to a hit a ball. The child in question, 'Pod', is 4 years old. 3-5 year olds aren't going to be running after balls and making sweeping passing shots, they'll be lucky to make contact. Hence no running around to collect tennis balls required - either soft ones or normal ones. Although not in PDL, I would hazard a guess that tennis coaching methodology for 'little duts' as our family calls them (endearing term) is standardised, particularly across a holiday firm where sports staff are interchanged between resorts on a yearly basis.

I don't believe the 'tennis photo' was taken at a mini tennis session on any day of the week.

Also interesting on another page of the blog is the fact that the daughter, 4 year old 'Pod', received a RYA certificate to say that she had tried sailing with kids club - wonder if MBM got one too? Always wondered why there were no photos of this either - I wouldn't be surprised if the staff took photos of the kids on the yellow catamaran even if parents didn't. Surely one of the parents took a group shot of the kids in their life jackets on the day.

I also believe something happened before Tuesday May 1. I'm still not decided about the Mrs Fenn's crying incident and KM's phone usage the evening of 1 May. Interesting that some of the released records only start on 1 May i.e. 29 and 30 May having been held back by the PJ.

by Sophiebubbles 04.11.15 8:50

plebgate wrote:
Sophiebubbles wrote:@ Plebgate I notice the word 'imagine' again being used, we are in scary times IMO so I would reiterate It would be good to know for certain
the PJ and Snr Amaral were aware of all @ Hi de Ho's work (which I cannot praise enough) as so much work has been researched and I do not
take that for granted.

As for me sending links, If I could I would if it gave us certainty PJ and Snr Amaral had all that vital info, unfortunately, you may have noticed
I have only started posting, although I am not new to the case in hand I am new to posting on this Forum so technically I can't, as I wouldn't
have the foggiest where to start, but there is no shame in expressing my hope that they do know everything there is to know for a just outcome
all round, just sharing my opinion.
I also imagine some posters might find it of interest to know exactly what is being sent to PJ and Rocky.

To send a link simply highlight, copy and then paste to whichever site you want to post it on. Simples. Same as with any other site you may have posted on.

Thank you @ plebgate for taking trouble to help me be able to send links.....appreciated. @ Verdi however, put my mind at rest on said topic, so, since I
noticed I didn't manage to get my thank you post in quote box to @ Verd.... up topic, I should perhaps take on board my technical skills are not the best and
perhaps stick to simple discussing!!!! I have never posted on another Forum.......so for a 'newbie' this is me being really brave posting on here, thanks again
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and @ Verdi....I appreciate both your imputs.

by joyce1938 04.11.15 11:14

I have looked at picture of tennis court where Maddie was stood clutching tennis balls, thinking what has been said about cleaning of court, I noticed, and it may not be relevant, but the green part of the piece beside the washed MAYBE court looks a different green for a small part. Could it have been damp also, where washing overlapped? joyce1938

by Guest 04.11.15 12:30

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote: "So Rachael Oldfield is claiming in her rogatory interveiw the Tennis photo was taken by Jane on Thursday 3rd at 10.30 am."

The Rachael Oldfield has a very defective memory - hasn't she. Snipped from her witness statement taken on 11th May 2007 (when the memory is still fresh)..

[Thursday 3rd May] .. [/color]At 07h50, they went to the "Millennium" restaurant, on foot, arriving by 08h00 to have breakfast. She stated that they had been the first of the group to arrive, and, later, came David and Fiona, and two children, then Russell with his children. Jane did not come because that morning she did not feel well. They took the usual route, alone, having left the apartment by the main door, which was locked, turned right, just after that a left, reaching the main road that led to the said restaurant. They took breakfast together at the same table, including the children.

When the breakfast was over, by 09h00, the deponent took her daughter to "nursery" next to the "Tapas", while her husband Matthew went with Russell to take his daughter E**a to "nursery" at the main reception. The witness says she returned to her apartment, did some cleaning and changed clothes as she had scheduled a tennis lesson for 11h00. At 09h45 she left the apartment and went to the swimming pool area where she read a book and talked with Kate until 11h10, the time at which she went to the tennis courts since the lesson was delayed slightly. At that time her husband Matthew arrived also to play tennis until about 12h10.

[i]After class, they collected their daughter and went to the apartment of David Payne and Fiona, where thay had lunch all together. At 13h45, the three returned to their apartment, where they put down her daughter who slept for about two hours. The deponent went to play tennis with Jane until 15h00, while her husband Matthew went to the balcony of Russell to talk, or vice versa, she doesn't know exactly, their apartment being located to the side of his and there is only one other apartment between the two.

So, either Jane Tanner made a miraculous recovery and made an unmentionable appearance at the poolside/tennis courts or she was indisposed and therefore didn't make apublic appearance on the morning of 3rd May.

What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive - never were those words more appropriate than in the disappearance of MBM.

by Guest 04.11.15 15:25

@Get'emGoncalo

big grin

Thankee! Think there's a touch of the OCD (or should that be COD) about me - I can't bear to see a shabby post littered with hieroglyphics that I can't remove.

by Gaggzy 04.11.15 18:44

Verdi wrote:
HiDeHo wrote:

Once everyone (like yourself) starts to see that not only is it a matter of WHO may be telling the truth, but more obviously whether ANY of them are telling the truth!

I think that simple statement applies to the whole groups version of all events during that week, from beginning to end. In defence of Goncalo Amaral and the PJ, I believe that reality was major stumbling block from the word go, as he realised within the first seventy two hours of MBM being reported missing.

http://truthofthelie.com/the-book/

Personally, I don't believe any of them.

If any of the Tapas 9 walked into my house soaking wet and told me it was raining outside, I'd open the door and check for myself!

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