With acknowledgements and sincere apologies to Private Eye

Ladyinred wrote:
Thank you, PeterMac.

Also, I read your message on gofundme.com/Legal-DefencePJGA - brilliant.

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angel7777 wrote:

PeterMac wrote:" />

The McCcanns never said the shutters were broken and smashed...wouldn't we be more likely to find the truth if we were more accurate

The McCcanns never said the shutters were broken and smashed...wouldn't we be more likely to find the truth if we were more accurate

PeterMac wrote:They told the identical story to at least four family members and friends, who were also clearly given instructions to tell the story to the Press,
and in every case the story was the same. Smashed, broken open, forced, "jammed . . . or whatever the word is" . . .   door hanging off its hinges.

People don't make that sort of stuff up, at 1,500 miles distance. They have to be told.

Not Chinese whispers. Different people, in different parts of the country, speaking to different newspapers and radio and TV stations.
The astonishing thing is that they gave out this story AFTER the arrival of the police, and AFTER Gerry had been outside to move the shutters up and down . . .
So AFTER they knew that the story would be shown conclusively to be "untrue".


Good try.

j.rob wrote:

The McCcanns never said the shutters were broken and smashed...wouldn't we be more likely to find the truth if we were more accurate

No they didn't, they have always taken great care to pass their messages via third parties to allow for "confusion".  

But the fact remains that identical stories that the shutters were broken and "jimmied" (whatever that is) were relayed to the media next day by the people who said this was what the McCanns had told them, eg Patricia Cameron, Philomena McCann, Jon Corner.   Shurely shome mishtake, as Private Eye would say, if they had all misheard in exactly the same way.

So, nice try, but no cigar.


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Indeed. The Mucks always get other people to do their dirty work.

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Example Sentences Including 'jemmied'

I noticed you've got a decent lock on the door, and the chain, but of course any door can be jemmied.

PeterMac wrote:They told the identical story to at least four family members and friends, who were also clearly given instructions to tell the story to the Press,
and in every case the story was the same. Smashed, broken open, forced, "jammed . . . or whatever the word is" . . .   door hanging off its hinges.

People don't make that sort of stuff up, at 1,500 miles distance. They have to be told.

Not Chinese whispers. Different people, in different parts of the country, speaking to different newspapers and radio and TV stations.
The astonishing thing is that they gave out this story AFTER the arrival of the police, and AFTER Gerry had been outside to move the shutters up and down . . .
So AFTER they knew that the story would be shown conclusively to be "untrue".


Good try.

PeterMac wrote:They told the identical story to at least four family members and friends, who were also clearly given instructions to tell the story to the Press,
and in every case the story was the same. Smashed, broken open, forced, "jammed . . . or whatever the word is" . . .   door hanging off its hinges.

People don't make that sort of stuff up, at 1,500 miles distance. They have to be told.

Not Chinese whispers. Different people, in different parts of the country, speaking to different newspapers and radio and TV stations.
The astonishing thing is that they gave out this story AFTER the arrival of the police, and AFTER Gerry had been outside to move the shutters up and down . . .
So AFTER they knew that the story would be shown conclusively to be "untrue".


Good try.

angel7777 wrote:

PeterMac wrote:" />

The McCcanns never said the shutters were broken and smashed...wouldn't we be more likely to find the truth if we were more accurate

angel7777 wrote:

PeterMac wrote:They told the identical story to at least four family members and friends, who were also clearly given instructions to tell the story to the Press,
and in every case the story was the same. Smashed, broken open, forced, "jammed . . . or whatever the word is" . . .   door hanging off its hinges.

People don't make that sort of stuff up, at 1,500 miles distance. They have to be told.

Not Chinese whispers. Different people, in different parts of the country, speaking to different newspapers and radio and TV stations.
The astonishing thing is that they gave out this story AFTER the arrival of the police, and AFTER Gerry had been outside to move the shutters up and down . . .
So AFTER they knew that the story would be shown conclusively to be "untrue".


Good try.

You now claim the mccanns gave clear instructions to tell the story...how could you possibly know this to be true...Chinese whispers is exactly what it was

[color:ef54=0DD8E6]The First Reactions

[color:ef54=000000]Here we read the first reactions from Kate and Gerry's closest family and friends, immediately after they have been contacted individually with the news that Madeleine has been 'abducted'.   Note how consistent the stories are that an 'abductor' gained access to a locked apartment by breaking open the shutter on the bedroom window and escaping by the front door.   The story changed later when it became clear the shutters on the window had not been forced, were not damaged in any way and could only be opened from inside the apartment.   From that point, the McCanns became convinced that an 'abductor' had entered through 'open' patio doors and escaped through the open shuttered window.   Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, is eventually forced to admit that "There was no evidence of a break-in".   [color:ef54=000000]Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007   Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie. Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'." Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken." "Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull." "They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her." [color:ef54=000000]Link to Daily Mirror article containing this quote   [color:ef54=000000]Frantic search for toddler, 04 May 2007   [color:ef54=000000]Frantic search for toddler [color:ef54=000000]BBC East Midlands Today (video) [color:ef54=000000] [color:ef54=000000]Eileen McCann and Trish Cameron (with script) [color:ef54=000000]04 May 2007 A frantic search is continuing for a three-year-old girl who has gone missing on holiday in Portugal. (00:01:42) [color:ef54=000000] Transcript By Nigel Moore Reporter: Well, the McCann family, Gerry and Kate, with their twins and three-year-old Madeleine went on holiday to Portugal last Saturday, from their home in Rothley, in Leicestershire. They'd gone to a popular resort on the coast of the Algarve with a group of other families; nine adults; eight children; all on holiday together. Now, last night Madeleine and the twins were left sleeping in their room, while her parents had a meal in a restaurant two hundred yards away - and they did regular checks on them - but at ten o'clock last night there was a huge shock for Kate. Madeleine's aunt who lives in Scotland, takes up the story. Trish Cameron: They last checked at half past nine; they were all sound asleep, sleeping; windows shut; shutters shut. Kate went back at ten o'clock to check; the front door was lying open; the window had been tampered with; the shutters had been jammied open... or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing. Reporter: Madeleine's disappearance led to a frantic search. Some of the guests were out looking for the little girl all night; the police brought in sniffer dogs. The group of friends in Portugal with the McCanns are devastated. Rachael Oldfield: Some people are... are out looking again, as well, errm... you know, everyone at the resort has been great and they're doing everything they can to help. Reporter: The owners of the Ocean Club resort, the Mark Warner holiday firm, have offered to fly out more family members to support the McCanns. John Hill: The parents were regularly checking, errm... through the, errr... the french windows of their apartment, errm... and between, errm... errr... ten... ten o'clock and ten fifteen, errm... the alarm was raised that Maddie was missing from that room. Reporter: Today Madeleine's parents have been giving statements to the police. Their friends say they just can't believe what's happened. The family were due to fly home tomorrow to their home in Rothley.   [color:ef54=000000]Kate rings childhood friend, Linda McQueen, at 2:00am   Yesterday Linda recalled how she had spoken to Kate at about 2am on the night Madeleine vanished. "She just said, 'Somebody's taken Madeleine, somebody's taken Madeleine.' She sounded shocked and frantic and was just trying to get everything up and running to find her. It was just awful. This cold, icy feeling came over you." [color:ef54=000000]Link to Daily Mail for this quote * It seems slightly odd that Kate McCann should feel the need to phone a childhood friend at 2:00am in the morning - after all, what could she do to help? It's also interesting that Linda McQueen says that Kate 'was trying to get everything up and running to find her'. Surely, Kate would have been better employed 'up and running' looking for Madeleine herself rather than ringing a childhood friend who was in no position to offer any help. It appears to show that the McCanns were already embarked on a campaign. Why did they need to get 'everything up and running' when the police were already there? How could they think so logically at a time of high emotions, extreme stress and desperation. We have been told by friends and relatives that the McCanns were absolutely devastated and uncontrollable with grief - yet they had the calm presence of mind to undertake a carefully organised system of phone calls to friends and relatives to get 'everything up and running'. Were the friends and relatives simply used by the McCanns in order to provide a smokescreen for their real aim - which was to shift attention away from themselves and unleash a typhoon of media comments that would wipe out all oppostion to their story?   [color:ef54=000000]Kate rings another close friend, Jon Corner, at 03:00am   [color:ef54=000000]Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said Kate telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught. He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.' "They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage." After speaking to her a second time, he repeated his earlier account, but this time in stronger language He told how tearful Kate sobbed down the phone early yesterday: "Someone has taken my little girl." He continued: "She was in an absolutely hysterical state - very, very distressed. She blurted out Madeleine had been abducted. "Kate said the shutters of the room were smashed. Madeleine was missing It looks as though someone had gone straight past the twins to get to her. Kate was incredibly upset. I've spoken to her since, and she's still completely devastated. "She's also very upset that the police don't seem to be doing more to find Madeleine. She thinks there's too little happening." The Liverpool Daily Post also speaks to Jon Corner and reports a very similar conversation: Jon Corner, founder of Liverpool-based River Media, is godfather to the McCann’s twins and his wife has known Mrs McCann since they were both three. The co-founder of city centre-based River Media, and a father-of-three himself, said: “Kate phoned me in the early hours totally devastated." "She just told me that Maddy had been abducted, that the shutters of the apartment had been forced and someone had taken her." "Maddy was asleep in the room with Sean and Amelie and whoever has taken her has gone straight past the sleeping twins, left them completely alone and snatched Maddy." "Kate is just so distressed. She doesn’t know what to do. It has knocked me and everyone else for six. It doesn’t actually seem real." [color:ef54=000000]Link to Daily Telegraph article - original quote from Jon Corner [color:ef54=000000]Link to Daily Mirror article - second quote from Jon Corner [color:ef54=000000]Link to Liverpool Daily Post article - third quote from Jon Corner   [color:ef54=000000]Kate/Gerry ring another friend, Jill Renwick, at 07:00am   Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeline had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour." She said the parents went out about 8pm, checked on the children at 9pm and then when they "went back in at 10pm she was gone". Ms Renwick said: "Poor Kate and Gerry don't know where to turn. She's obviously been taken as she couldn't have gone out on her own and the shutters had been forced open." "The shutters had been broken open and they've gone into the room and taken her." Speaking to the BBC later, Ms Renwick said the McCanns, who had been holidaying with three other British families, had felt let down by police in Portugal. "I spoke to them this morning and they said the police had done nothing overnight and they felt as if they'd been left on their own. They just don't know where to turn." However, the manager at the Mark Warner resort, John Hill said the police had been doing all they could. He said around 60 staff and guests at the complex had searched until 4.30am while police notified border police, Spanish police and airports.   [color:ef54=000000]Female Tapas group member quoted Daily Mirror 05 May 2007   A woman friend of the McCanns - one of their holiday party of nine adults and eight children - said: "We went for dinner at 8.45pm in a restaurant near the apartments as we've done every night. "A parent from each family went back to check on the children every half hour. "Someone checked at 9.15. But when Kate went later Madeleine had gone. "The window shutters, which had been closed since we arrived on Saturday, were open along with the window. They can be opened from the outside. "The window opens on to a car park. The door to the room was shut. It looks as if someone has come through the window and possibly left through the door." [color:ef54=000000]Link to Daily Mirror article containing this quote * This is a very interesting quote atributed to 'a woman friend of the McCanns'. Although the woman friend is unnamed, judging by the time they say they arrived at the tapas restaurant, it is most likely this was Rachael Oldfield speaking. Fiona Payne and Diane Webster are not believed to have arrived until 8.55pm. It is interesting for 6 reasons: 1) Before Jane Tanner's appearance on Panorama in November, this was the only quote to come from a tapas group member that specifically spoke about the events of that night, May 3rd. 2) It clearly implies that the last check was done at 9.15pm, before Kate discovered Madeleine missing at 10.00pm. This fits in with Gerry's check at 9.05pm but would appear to cast doubt on Matthew Oldfield's alleged check at 9.30pm. 3) She states how the window shutters which 'had been closed since we arrived on Saturday, were open along with the window'. This makes it even more remarkable that, on 6 separate occasions, members of the group walked past them and didn't see, or register, they were wide open and supposedly damaged. Jane Tanner walked past 3 times, Russell O'Brien walked past twice and Matthew Oldfield allegedly stood in the apartment , at the entrance to the room, and had a 'cursory' look inside. The window, behind the shutter, would almost certainly have needed to be forced or smashed to gain entry - there was no evidence of any forced entry anywhere in the apartment. 4) She states that the window shutters 'can be opened from the outside' but we know this to be incorrect. It is impossible to open the shutters from the outside. The shutters are made from heavy metal and are ratcheted so they can only be opened from the inside the apartment. 5) She continues: 'The door to the room was shut'. This clearly contradicts Kate's later story that the door had been open. Kate stated that she immediately knew there had been an abduction because, as she opened the patio doors, the door slammed shut when the wind whistled through the apartment. 6) She reaffirms the version of events reported in the immediate phone calls to Kate and Gerry's family/friends, that the 'abductor' entered through the window and escaped by the front door. Yet, we are now led to believe that the abductor entered through open patio doors and escaped by the window. How could she get this so wrong when she was actually there?   [color:ef54=000000]"the apartment... was locked" Philomena McCann, Gerry McCann's sister   Philomena McCann, said on 04 May: "Some people may ask why they left the children alone in the apartment but it was locked and they had a full view of the front door and they were checking every half hour."   [color:ef54=000000]Link to Daily Mail article containing this quote   [color:ef54=000000]Philomena McCann talks to Sky News 05 May 2007   'It Is Abhorent To Suggest Bad Parenting' Last night the family of Madeline McCann made an emotional appeal for her return, 24 hours after she vanished from her bed in the Algarve while her parents were having dinner nearby. The little girl's Aunt, Philomena McCann says the family is devastated. 00:02:28 * Note: Philomena says she has spoken to Gerry ''several times'' and she is still recounting the 'abductor through the window' scenario, when she says ''It is obvious that someone, with malicious intent, went through that window.'' When Ian Woods asks: ''Is there a temptation for them to get out and try and search themselves...'' Philomena replies: ''Yeah, well, I mean for Gerry and Kate they want to get out there, they want to search everything, they want to leave nothing unturned.'' - Yet Kate later admits, in the McCanns first interview with Jane Hill from the BBC, that she never actually did any physical searching. There are also no reports that Gerry ever searched beyond the first few immediate hours after Madeleine's disappearance.   [color:ef54=000000]Gerry tells Brian Healy the shutters were broken and the door was open, 05 May 2007   "Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."   Full article:   Grandfather: evidence that three-year old was snatched [color:ef54=000000]Guardian   Sandra Laville and Dale Fuchs in Faro Saturday May 5 2007 "

Richard IV wrote:This was Trish Cameron talking about the jemmied shutters on Newsnight on Friday 4th - notice the video of MBM is already being circulated (24hrs later).  And notice the presenter says "they say she was abducted".

Rabbitte wrote:C&P'd from the above post.


Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open.Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."


I have enlarged above what gets me everytime. No valuables taken. The abiding sadness in this case, the priorities of that family, were evident from the very beginning.

I'm PeterMac wrote:They told the identical story to at least four family members and friends, who were also clearly given instructions to tell the story to the Press,
and in every case the story was the same. Smashed, broken open, forced, "jammed . . . or whatever the word is" . . .   door hanging off its hinges.

People don't make that sort of stuff up, at 1,500 miles distance. They have to be told.

Not Chinese whispers. Different people, in different parts of the country, speaking to different newspapers and radio and TV stations.
The astonishing thing is that they gave out this story AFTER the arrival of the police, and AFTER Gerry had been outside to move the shutters up and down . . .
So AFTER they knew that the story would be shown conclusively to be "untrue".


Good try.

Dr What wrote:Just re-reading some of the drivel and lies that were uttered from the very beginning, makes it quite clear why the McCanns will always actively seek to keep well away from any court room and the risk of ever being cross questioned under oath.
Their stories would unravel, they would probably unravel, and all those friends and relatives who initially stood by them and supported them, would be made to look naïve and gullible.