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Another look at the Last photo

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by PeterMac on 06.01.19 14:13

Bougainvillaea 
on my balcony, 
two minutes ago, 
1511 Spanish time
Sunday 6th JANUARY 2019


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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by aquila on 06.01.19 16:50

Pesky stuff, a rat run onto your balcony, blooms its bracts whenever the sun takes a fancy to shine on your walls.

Has nothing to do with the last photo and quite frankly I am annoyed that NE who claims to be an ex police officer offers up this nonsense.

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by Verdi on 06.01.19 20:30

I can't resist the temptation to plug this at every given opportunity big grin .

Whoever took this photograph winkwink  I thank you ....  sarcastic .


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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by NickE on 06.01.19 21:29

As I said, it has been discussed many times before but I had never seen that May 4 clip before.
I just thought it was s little bit strange because there's no flowers in full colour on the sunny wall in the clip but it just happened to be a couple of meters to the left in the more shadow in the background in TLP.
I thought they bloom better and faster in direct sunlight, maybe I've got wrong informatio and maybe it's completley normal but it was a relevant question so keep calm folks.

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by PeterMac on 07.01.19 7:14

Short answer - pruning.

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by Equity on 07.01.19 16:14

My only problem with the last photo is hindsight.

We are all looking at this from the point of view of an observer, who also has the cruelest and most astute adviser - hindsight.

If you were GM however how could you possibly know that after you released the ‘’last photo’, which you say was taken at a very specific time and date, there didn’t exist some overwhelming evidence that you were in fact lying. How did GM know with absolute certainty, other holidaymakers were not in the vicinity of the pool around the same time and had video or photographic evidence that the McCann’s were not present?

Are we suggesting the McCann’s staked out the pool around that time to ensure nobody else was there who could subsequently tell the PJ they were alone and saw no sign of the McCann family?

They were restricted as to the time the pool would have to be deserted on the Thursday as it would have to be very close to the time the actual photo was taken on the Sunday. Did they check no one just happened to be taking a photo of the pool from a balcony around that time - a photo from another holidaymaker that could subsequently prove their ‘last photo’ wasn’t taken on that day?

How were they 100% certain that they were not observed on the Sunday when the photo was actually taken - at this time MBM would still have been alive so would they even be thinking about who may or may not have passed them by the pool. How were they 100% certain that someone didn’t note they were wearing exactly the same clothes and sitting in exactly the same position as in the ‘last photo’ and could approach the PJ to say this photo must have been taken on the Sunday not Thursday?

If you put yourself in GMs position wouldn’t this be an incredible risk to take?

Were the PJ and the media pressurising them in the days leading up to them releasing the ‘last photo’ to prove MBM was actually still alive around Thursday lunchtime? Did GM feel he had no alternative but to take this risk? If the ‘last photo’ had not been released the risk would have been zero - by releasing the ‘last photo’ there was undoubtedly a risk, no matter how small, that some holidaymakers or a member of staff could have come forward and proved they were lying.

When he released the ‘last photo’ he knew that the publicity was unprecedented so would have been aware that if they had been observed, without their knowledge, that information would be highly likely to be divulged to the PJ - yet he still released the ‘last photo’?

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by PeterMac on 07.01.19 16:46

It is an interesting point. 

There does, in fact, "exist some overwhelming evidence that [they] were in fact lying. "
The Meteorological reports, 
dozens of timed and dated photos on Flickr 
contemporaneously recorded diary entries about the weather by a person whose profession was watching and recording weather
weather reports from airports
statements from various persons including the Tapas 7
meteorological satellite images

I think that although we are seeing the situation with hindsight, the McCanns lacked foresight.
Had they thought it through properly they would have never come up with broken shutters, whooshing curtains, sedation - (which as we remember they suspected, then denied, then suspected again, then denied vehemently and with threats, only finally to admit that it MUST have happened), Tanner-person, Spotty-person, Harrison-person, Gypsies, Moroccans, and all the rest of the nonsense
They would have had a far more coherent story, with a more credible time-line.

As you observe, the entire thing was a risk.  For a considerable time they got away with it, and through sheer force of finance and the use of agrumentum ad baculam managed to shut down observations tending to suggest there were lacunae in the fabula.

More recently even this strategy seems to have deserted them, and they have reverted to the silence which would have served them better from the start.

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by ferrotty on 07.01.19 16:59

Did not the UK police ask for all holiday makers to send their photo's in, could this be a way to get rid of the evidence although with digital photo's you can always keep copies.

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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by Jill Havern on 07.01.19 17:29

ferrotty wrote:Did not the UK police ask for all holiday makers to send their photo's in, could this be a way to get rid of the evidence although with digital photo's you can always keep copies.
I believe that was McCann-supporter Jim 'waybackmachine' Gamble of CEOPS fame wasn't it?
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Re: Another look at the Last photo

Post by aquila on 07.01.19 17:55

Jill Havern wrote:
ferrotty wrote:Did not the UK police ask for all holiday makers to send their photo's in, could this be a way to get rid of the evidence although with digital photo's you can always keep copies.
I believe that was McCann-supporter Jim 'waybackmachine' Gamble of CEOPS fame wasn't it?

Send photos to Jessops (gone bust now as a High Sreet retailer and massive job loss).
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