LAST DAY OF LIBEL TRIAL 8th July 2014 DISCUSSION AND NEWS

SchrodingersBody wrote:Mods - any chance of an updates only thread please during the proceedings please.

It's hard to work and keep up ...

OK will try, although we may not get many.  Please put LATEST NEWS above your posts on other thread then so they can easily be picked out and moved to update only thread.....thanks.

canada12 wrote:

Not six... I think VI is Victim Impact..?

I don't quite understand the need for victim impact statements in a civil case. Surely the case is to establish if they actually are victims? As it stands it is only themselves making that claim.

canada12 wrote:

frost wrote:

candyfloss wrote:Colette Croft ‏@collywobbles54  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
SKY ticker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] hoping2 give VI statements at trial of former police chief who wrote book allegedly implicating them is M's disappearance

Am I reading that correctly 6 statements ? why 6 ? surely one would suffice 

or is it one for kate , gerry . sean . amelie , madeleine and then one on behalf of family and friends ?

Not six... I think VI is Victim Impact..?

Thanks I automatically read it as roman numerals

Gerry and his itchy nose again ha.
GO GO GONCALO!!! XXX

Morning all.

Still lurking here .

Im sure this link has been given already but when I read it earlier it was accepting comment. As usual I submitted mine, knowing it wouldnt be accepted, as usual!
Anyway, just checked the story to see if any further update and and now...Sorry we are not accepting comments..

Anyone else think this is strange?

I get a feeling any updates today will be few and far between :-(

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Clay Regazzoni wrote:

canada12 wrote:

Not six... I think VI is Victim Impact..?

I don't quite understand the need for victim impact statements in a civil case. Surely the case is to establish if they actually are victims? As it stands it is only themselves making that claim.

I think that's probably just the journalist trying to explain what's happening in a Portuguese civil case when they only have a limited understanding of English criminal procedures

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Kate and Gerry McCann return to Portugal to deliver personal statements at libel trial against former police chief

They were prevented from giving statements last month after trial adjourned
Goncalo Amaral is accused of making false allegations about the couple
His book suggested they hid their daughter's body after an accident

By Daily Mail Reporter

Published: 07:49 GMT, 8 July 2014 | Updated: 09:06 GMT, 8 July 2014

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Kate and Gerry McCann are back in Portugal today for the latest hearing in their ongoing libel trial against a former police chief.

The couple hope they will be able to deliver personal statements to the trial at Lisbon's Palace of Justice after they were thwarted last month when the case was adjourned.

Mr and Mrs McCann previously criticised former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral for what they claimed was a 'blatant and cynical' attempt to hold up the trial after he removed powers from his lawyer on the morning they were due to make statements about the effect allegations in his book had had on them.

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More pain: Kate and Gerry McCann arrive in Lisbon, Portugal, to give statements to the libel trial of former detective Goncalo Amaral whose book suggested they hid their daughter's body after she died in an accident


More pain: Kate and Gerry McCann arrive in Lisbon, Portugal, to give statements to the libel trial of former detective Goncalo Amaral whose book suggested they hid their daughter's body after she died in an accident

The couple had travelled to Lisbon on what was due to be the last day of the long-running trial over Mr Amaral's book The Truth Of The Lie, but the case was adjourned in the wake of the former detective's application.

After the hearing they spoke of their anger, accusing him of trying to wear them down and delaying justice for their missing daughter.

Madeleine, who was then nearly four, disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3, 2007, as her parents dined at a nearby restaurant with friends.
Still missing: Madeleine, who was then nearly four, disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3, 2007

The McCanns are suing for libel over claims made in Mr Amaral's 2008 book, including suggestions that they hid Madeleine's body after she died in an accident and faked an abduction.

They say the allegations damaged the hunt for their daughter and exacerbated their anguish.

If successful, the family stand to gain around £1million in damages. A judgment is not expected in the trial until later this year.

The couple's latest visit to Portugal comes after Scotland Yard detectives last week returned to the country to help interview suspects in the case.

Officers from the force's Operation Grange joined their Portuguese counterparts in Faro last week as they interviewed people of interest in relation to Madeleine's disappearance in 2007.

The suspects were believed to include three workers from the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz who have been linked to a string of burglaries in the area before Madeleine's disappearance.

The return of British detectives came after they joined their Portuguese counterparts last month in searches of three areas of land near to where Madeleine went missing.

After the searches, police said it was the 'first phase of this major investigation which has been agreed with the Portuguese' but that there was 'still a substantial amount of work yet to be completed in the coming weeks and months'.

Mr and Mrs McCann previously said that the fact police found no evidence relating to their missing daughter had reinforced their belief that she could still be alive.

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Do we have anyone in court to report proceedings? Anne Guedes?

Latest news

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The latest post from 10.48: wrote:Leanne R Baulch Ben Thompson- I'm in court now and Kate is giving evidence

scrants wrote:Do we have anyone in court to report proceedings? Anne Guedes?

I've just read on twitter that two mods from the Facebook Group are attending the court today.

Sorry, I don't know how to copy and paste from twitter.

Poe wrote:Latest news

This facebook page is giving updates (you don't have to have an account to view it)

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The latest post from 10.48: wrote:Leanne R Baulch Ben Thompson- I'm in court now and Kate is giving evidence

Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone is there.

scrants wrote:Do we have anyone in court to report proceedings? Anne Guedes?

I was about to ask the same thing then I saw this, although I can't vouch for its authenticity:

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AndyB wrote:

scrants wrote:Do we have anyone in court to report proceedings? Anne Guedes?

I was about to ask the same thing then I saw this, although I can't vouch for its authenticity:

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There are two admins from the JFM Facebook group in court apparently and one of them has passed on the same message above.

Is Mrs. giving evidence or a heartfelt speech?

plebgate wrote:Is Mrs. giving evidence or a heartfelt speech?

I'm sure it will be a heartfelt speech with a shaky wavering voice.

I do hope that sick bags are in plentiful supply for everyone who needs them.

Any McCann friends/family in the court today? or is it just the hired help.

The latest post from 10.48: wrote:Leanne R Baulch Ben Thompson- I'm in court now and Kate is giving evidence
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I hope there's a cardiologist in the court for when she histrionically 'collapses'.

Still better to happen in a court room than on an easyjet, i suppose.

WOOHOO! TB's Madeleine Foundation gets a mention from Brunty!

11:14am.

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Anyone listening to brunt on sky summing up Kate's evidence?  The madeleine Foundation, the FREEZER  

They are there. KM just finished giving evidence, according to Sky News. Lasted about an hour, she was questioned, claimed distress etc etc exacerbated, mentioned Madeleine Foundation promoting Mr Amaral's theories.. twins asked if KM+GM had hidden Madeleine (I think that's what Martin Brunt just said). 
Mr Amaral's lawyer questioned her, said searches still going on etc, KM maintained the book discouraged people in Portugal especially from searching ...

Ochosi wrote:KM maintained the book discouraged people in Portugal especially from searching ...

I defy them to find one single such person.

Good luck Mr Amaral

Claire25 wrote:Anyone listening to brunt on sky summing up Kate's evidence?  The madeleine Foundation, the FREEZER  

Yeah:

"poor Kate"

"Nobody looking for Madeleine"

Forgetting to mention SHE never 'looked' for Madeleine HERSELF!

Forgetting to mention SHE was nicely embedded in Rothley towers, not in PDL, which she had pledged NEVER to leave, without Madeleine, WHEN GA's book was published.

GA's book must of 'discouraged' and 'stopped' HERSELF and her husband from 'searching' for Madeleine, musn't it?

Because THEY didn't 'search' for Madeleine either!

I think it's fantastic that we have this forum (and others) and Facebook groups all seeking justice for Madeleine and some even flying to Portugal to show support for her  

It's good to know that so many of us instinctively want to protect children. If only this could be said for everyone   

aquila wrote:Any McCann friends/family in the court today? or is it just the hired help.

I really want to know that who the guy with them is.  Is he a lawyer, a PR person or a minder?

jeanmonroe wrote:

Claire25 wrote:Anyone listening to brunt on sky summing up Kate's evidence?  The madeleine Foundation, the FREEZER  

Yeah:

"poor Kate"

"Nobody looking for Madeleine"

Forgetting to mention SHE never 'looked' for Madeleine HERSELF!

Forgetting to mention SHE was nicely embedded in Rothley towers, not in PDL, which she had pledged NEVER to leave, without Madeleine, WHEN GA's book was published.

I hope the Judge asked her why she wasn't upset about the book until it had been out for a year and stacked up royalties.

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

Ochosi wrote:KM maintained the book discouraged people in Portugal especially from searching ...

I defy them to find one single such person.

Yep. Where's the evidence?

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

Ochosi wrote:KM maintained the book discouraged people in Portugal especially from searching ...

I defy them to find one single such person.

It's relative isn't it? To make a claim that persons have been discouraged from searching they have to show the people were searching in the first place. The sightings never stopped when the book was published. The PIs were still on the case - they still received calls from the public. So what is this "stopped searching" they keep talking about? They've never defined it.

Trust Your Instincts wrote:Morning all.

Still lurking here .

Im sure this link has been given already but when I read it earlier it was accepting comment. As usual I submitted mine, knowing it wouldnt be accepted, as usual!
Anyway, just checked the story to see if any further update and and now...Sorry we are not accepting comments..

Anyone else think this is strange?

I get a feeling any updates today will be few and far between :-(

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Merged your thread into this one Trust Your Instincts, to keep discussion in once place.