Alex Woolfall 'knows': 'The Last Photo', and other photos of Madeleine in Praia da Luz

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jozi wrote:Sorry for posting here but just seen this and wondered if anyone else has seen it or can explain ?

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The only thing I can explain is that this site has a "Donate tab".

jeanmonroe wrote:This is from GM's Statement, Leveson:

Jon Comer, a good friend and godparent to the twins, used his media experience to
release a number of pictures of Madeleine to the whole of the UK media in the early
hours of the 4th May 2007 to publicise her image.
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But NONE of them bore any resemblance to the 'Maddie by pool' photo did they?

If that one had been 'released' on the 4th May 2007 then people might have said 'oh yeah i saw THAT little girl yesterday by the pool'
or
"i saw THAT little girl two days ago"

But they were only shown  pictures that bore absolutely no resemblance to any child in PDL that week, or any other week.

Little bit weird!

I'd imagine even Jeremy Wilkins would have had difficulty in 'recognising' Madeleine from those pictures, even though he and Bridget SAW Madeleine before the pool picture!

Cherry Blossom wrote:

jeanmonroe wrote:This is from GM's Statement, Leveson:

Jon Comer, a good friend and godparent to the twins, used his media experience to
release a number of pictures of Madeleine to the whole of the UK media in the early
hours of the 4th May 2007 to publicise her image.
____________________________________________________________________

But NONE of them bore any resemblance to the 'Maddie by pool' photo did they?

If that one had been 'released' on the 4th May 2007 then people might have said 'oh yeah i saw THAT little girl yesterday by the pool'
or
"i saw THAT little girl two days ago"

But they were only shown  pictures that bore absolutely no resemblance to any child in PDL that week, or any other week.

Little bit weird!

I'd imagine even Jeremy Wilkins would have had difficulty in 'recognising' Madeleine from those pictures, even though he and Bridget SAW Madeleine before the pool picture!

Agree with all your points, they couln't show the pool photo because they didn't have it untill GM arrived back from his trip home

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Gerry did return home to collect photographs (old report) 20 May 2007
Alone, the father of Madeleine McCann began the saddest journey of his life Daily Mail - Online link has been removed

Madeleine's aunt, Philomena McCann revealed: "They're both finding it so incredibly difficult. They can't grieve but they can't be normal. They're just focused on finding Madeleine, because that's all that matters.

"Gerry wants to go through all the photographs and pick some to put on the website. The more images there are, the more she will be in people's minds."

For just 3 days after arriving back in Praia da Luz, from this trip back to the UK to collect photographs and videos, the 'last photograph' of Madeleine suddenly appeared - 21 days after Madeleine had been reported missing. (May 24, 2007 The last family picture of Madeleine McCann [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.])

If the pool photo had been on the camera they would have put it out, but it wasn't, imo it was one of many he had brought from home, which leads me to believe they had a holiday there a few months before

Or another thought was Madeleine superimposed on the pool photo?

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Now you see her on Gerry's LEFT!
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Now you don't!
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Now you see her, again, on Gerry's RIGHT!

Majik, innit?

Cherry Blossom wrote:Alice said "Curiouser and Curiouser Has Further Down The Rabbit Hole We Go"

So it seems Matt Oldfield was the first to set off the chain of abduction on 4 May. Alex Woolfall supposedly gave his interview to The Times 6 October, was he covering his own back?

Now this I find strange

We know that Alex Woolfall sat with the McCanns on May 5th and went through the images on their digital camera to find good pictures of Madeleine for publication.



Was it as early as the 5th? I didnt realise that. OMG, Alex Woolfall 'knows'.....

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] reported: 'The McCanns had photographs of Madeleine on their digital camera, which Mr Woolfall began transferring to a laptop computer. "I said to Kate, 'Let’s try to identify pictures where her face is visible'. Downloading the images was a very difficult process for them. It was upsetting.

"They were trying to do two things at once: one, emotionally deal with what was actually, really happening to them; two, operate in some sort of logical way to help get her back." Mr Woolfall transmitted the photographs to the Press Association in London, from where they were distributed to the media. The portfolio included the now famous image of Madeleine wearing a hat on a tennis court.'

It is surely extraordinary that the 'last photograph' of Madeleine, showing her full face, should not have been chosen for release at that time. Even if the photograph had been grainy and indistinct, it's significance to the investigation, as the last 'living' picture of Madeleine, cannot be overstated.

This is from GM's Statement, Leveson:

Jon Comer, a good friend and godparent to the twins, used his media experience to
release a number of pictures of Madeleine to the whole of the UK media in the early
hours of the 4th May 2007 to publicise her image.

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Wjy would Corner release photo's to the UK media on the 4th, then Woolfall send photo's on the 5th when they were from the same camera, so I imagine would be the same photo's?

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Kate Mccann: The night she went missing there was about 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought 'that can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was just total fear. I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left. But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken.

Ayniia wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Kate Mccann: The night she went missing there was about 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought 'that can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was just total fear. I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left. But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken.

She never thought for one second that she walked out, when just days before ( as said by someone I don't recall who ) Madeleine had walked out and hid in the garden?
As to the last photo I don't believe it was taken the day they say it was, but how could I when most of the things they say are not true? Why did it only surfaced after Gerry went to the UK? The supposed pictures of the vacation are all so weird. I can't believe the tennis photo and the last pool picture were taken just days apart. Then if I look at the Donegal pictures then I get a huge headache.

Hicks wrote:

Ayniia wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Kate Mccann: The night she went missing there was about 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought 'that can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was just total fear. I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left. But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken.

She never thought for one second that she walked out, when just days before ( as said by someone I don't recall who ) Madeleine had walked out and hid in the garden?
As to the last photo I don't believe it was taken the day they say it was, but how could I when most of the things they say are not true? Why did it only surfaced after Gerry went to the UK? The supposed pictures of the vacation are all so weird. I can't believe the tennis photo and the last pool picture were taken just days apart. Then if I look at the Donegal pictures then I get a huge headache.

Someone has been busy!

I have tried to post several links relating to the interview where Kate's mother said that M was a sleepwalker and because of that she took medication. Every link I have found so far has been removed.  

I will keep trying.

Hicks wrote:

Hicks wrote:

Ayniia wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Kate Mccann: The night she went missing there was about 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought 'that can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was just total fear. I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left. But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken.

She never thought for one second that she walked out, when just days before ( as said by someone I don't recall who ) Madeleine had walked out and hid in the garden?
As to the last photo I don't believe it was taken the day they say it was, but how could I when most of the things they say are not true? Why did it only surfaced after Gerry went to the UK? The supposed pictures of the vacation are all so weird. I can't believe the tennis photo and the last pool picture were taken just days apart. Then if I look at the Donegal pictures then I get a huge headache.

Someone has been busy!

I have tried to post several links relating to the interview where Kate's mother said that M was a sleepwalker and because of that she took medication. Every link I have found so far has been removed.  

I will keep trying.

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windchime wrote:Just a quick question - is it at all possible that Amalie could also have been 'added' to this picture??

NOPE

I have always thought the weather in this picture does not relate to the time of year they were there so wondered if it was an earlier picture of GM alone by the pool?? Is it possible to see the picture with GM alone??

Sorry I know there is another thread re the last picture so please feel free to move this question over there

jay2001 wrote:If Madeleine was genuinely abducted the latest photo would've been the one given out so that people in PDL could confirm if they'd seen her.  By putting the red dress photo on that only spread confusion, which Gerry admitted was good.  To wait nearly 3 weeks to publicise the pool photo is shocking. 

SO, there must be a good reason for that isn't it?

There also appears to be some dispute about when the tennis photo was taken and who took it.  How many sunhats did Madeleine and Amelie have?  Alex Woolfall surely would know which of the latest pix were on the camera and that camera should've been given immediately to the PJ.  Like everything in this case nothing is straightforward.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hicks wrote:

Hicks wrote:

Ayniia wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Kate Mccann: The night she went missing there was about 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought 'that can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was just total fear. I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left. But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken.

She never thought for one second that she walked out, when just days before ( as said by someone I don't recall who ) Madeleine had walked out and hid in the garden?
As to the last photo I don't believe it was taken the day they say it was, but how could I when most of the things they say are not true? Why did it only surfaced after Gerry went to the UK? The supposed pictures of the vacation are all so weird. I can't believe the tennis photo and the last pool picture were taken just days apart. Then if I look at the Donegal pictures then I get a huge headache.

Someone has been busy!

I have tried to post several links relating to the interview where Kate's mother said that M was a sleepwalker and because of that she took medication. Every link I have found so far has been removed.  

I will keep trying.

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Hicks, First time I've heard the name Guilhem Buttut, and him seeing hard evidence on pill overdose. This is interesting reading with info about KM's diary:

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Is this why she made such a hue and cry about it being out of her hands?

sar wrote:Interesting conclusion to the telegraph article.  Wonder what the linguists make of this?


"As far as Kate and I are concerned there is no evidence to suggest that Madeleine is dead. We are 100 per cent together on this, not one grain of suspicion about each other."

jeanmonroe wrote:Hampshire constabulary
Witness Statement

Statement of: Stuart William Martin

Occupation: Detective Constable 1755

Date: 9th May 2007

2. On 8th May at 21.00 hours, the following was delivered to my home address by PC 178 Barham, requesting they be examined to establish if they contained pictures and video footage of a hotel complex in Praia da Luz.

3. Video tape from Sony Handicam Video Camera Re Praia da Luz holiday 28/4/07-5/5/07 (NALF 1)
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What was on that VIDEO TAPE?

It seems to imply that it was in use 2 DAYS after Madeleine went 'missing' (5th May 2007)

WHOSE camera was the video tape recorded on?

WHO owned the Sony Handicam Video Camera?

Video being checked in case there were 'inappropiate' images of someone up to 'no good'
Video being checked in case it might have caught a 'crime' being carried out by certain 'people' or 'holidaying group'?

Cherry Blossom wrote:Hicks, you raise some interesting points, is there a thread on the subject? 

Back to topic

snipped form sharoni's post

Another question is how did this camera get into the hands of a Hampshire Police Officer who examined it on Tuesday 8 May, apparently in his own home.

Who took it there, presumably by plane, and on whose authority?

Were any images deleted from the memory stick? I think they were. Who deleted them and why?

Also, we are talking about 'the McCanns' camera' as if they only had one camera. Did they perhaps have more than one?

Another question: why are there so few photos of her that week?

Plus, who actually took the 'tennis balls' photo?


Hampshire constabulary

Witness Statement

Statement of: Stuart William Martin

Occupation: Detective Constable 1755

Date: 9th May 2007

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2. On 8th May at 21.00 hours, the following was delivered to my home address by PC 178 Barham, requesting they be examined to establish if they contained pictures and video footage of a hotel complex in Praia da Luz.

3. Video tape from Sony Handicam Video Camera Re Praia da Luz holiday 28/4/07-5/5/07 (NALF 1)

On 9th May 2007 at 08.30 I delivered this video camera in the sealed bag number CD 48113 to the imaging unit at Hampshire Police Support headquarters, Netley for examination. I conducted no examination of this bag and contents.

Why didn't he examin this video camera has he did the others?

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I've found nothing on who requested they be sent to Hampshire, maybe the PJ didn't know they'd gone and only recieved the report back. Were they sent before PJ could get their hands on them?

PeterMac wrote:

sar wrote:Interesting conclusion to the telegraph article.  Wonder what the linguists make of this?


"As far as Kate and I are concerned there is no evidence to suggest that Madeleine is dead. We are 100 per cent together on this, not one grain of suspicion about each other."

It is a very strange statement certainly.
"As far as Kate and I are concerned there is no evidence"  seems to imply that as far as other people are concerned - there might well be.
What can it possibly mean ?
That they are deliberately ignoring or blocking out the evidence of her death, as too painful for contemplate and have told themselves that until they see a body they 'dare not believe it'.  ?
And then in the second sentence it changes dramatically to talk about "suspicion"
Suspicion of what, precisely.
Why put those two opposing concepts in the same paragraph, or even on the same day.
They are not linked
Unless of course . . . .

Does Hobs have a view, I wonder.

aiyoyo wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:Hicks, you raise some interesting points, is there a thread on the subject? 

Back to topic

snipped form sharoni's post

Another question is how did this camera get into the hands of a Hampshire Police Officer who examined it on Tuesday 8 May, apparently in his own home.

Who took it there, presumably by plane, and on whose authority?

Were any images deleted from the memory stick? I think they were. Who deleted them and why?

Also, we are talking about 'the McCanns' camera' as if they only had one camera. Did they perhaps have more than one?

Another question: why are there so few photos of her that week?

Plus, who actually took the 'tennis balls' photo?


Hampshire constabulary

Witness Statement

Statement of: Stuart William Martin

Occupation: Detective Constable 1755

Date: 9th May 2007

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2. On 8th May at 21.00 hours, the following was delivered to my home address by PC 178 Barham, requesting they be examined to establish if they contained pictures and video footage of a hotel complex in Praia da Luz.

3. Video tape from Sony Handicam Video Camera Re Praia da Luz holiday 28/4/07-5/5/07 (NALF 1)

On 9th May 2007 at 08.30 I delivered this video camera in the sealed bag number CD 48113 to the imaging unit at Hampshire Police Support headquarters, Netley for examination. I conducted no examination of this bag and contents.

Why didn't he examin this video camera has he did the others?

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I've found nothing on who requested they be sent to Hampshire, maybe the PJ didn't know they'd gone and only recieved the report back. Were they sent before PJ could get their hands on them?

Yeah, he received the video camera on the 8th, then returned it the next day to  another Police HQ, without examining it.  Believable?  
Who is going to be able to prove the veracity of his statement one way or another?

Who authorised for it to be sent to HIS HOME in the first place ?  
Why was it not sent directly to the Hamshire Police Support headquarters?  
Why was there a need to be routed to his HIS HOME first?  For what purpose?
Either he has the proper tool and proper record-keeping- procedures to examine it or he hasn;t.  
If he hasn't who directed for it to be sent to his private address when this is an official and sensitive job?