Re: Kate McCann London Marathon interview and abuse on internet on Daybreak 17/4/13

by aiyoyo 22.04.13 18:13

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Give her some thick gold necklaces, and a cigar held in chunky ringed fingers, who does she remind us of? Same creepy cheshire cat smile on wrinkled face and stringy bottled blond hair.....?

by **Nina** 22.04.13 18:43

Smokeandmirrors wrote:The post below is based on an assumption that this so-called "threat" relates the gun remark made on a Facebook page. If this assumption is incorrect, and another actual, genuine threat has been made that is unknown to us, and which the Police determine to be genuine and serious, warranting further investigation, then clearly the views below would need to be moderated, as in no way would I ever seek to condone or excuse a real threat.

If what I understand from the gun remark is correct, it was a daft remark which was never meant to be seen as serious and the person who said it was mortified. Now, if this account is true, and there is nothing to suggest otherwise, then it was one of a thousand daft remarks made on FB, Twitter and forums every minute of every day. There are journalists, comedians, celebrities etc who regularly spout pretty vile stuff publicly and never seem to get hot water about it. Or a little slapped wrist at most.

Also, IIRC, it was Muratfan who reported the remark allegedly. The VERY SAME individual who has entire vile website dedicated to the harassment, libel and hate of Tony Bennett. It is curious that Kate McCann does not appear to condemn threatening behaviour to members of the public if it comes from one of her supporters. Muratfan has long waged a hideous campaign that goes several steps beyond in terms of depravity, that any McCann sceptic has done from what I have seen. Yet nothing is said about that is it?

The gun incident was no death threat, the words " I am going to kill Kate McCann" were never explicitly said. The police saw no real threat and "moved on" pretty sharpish. No action was seen as necessary, so no crime was committed. So trying to "cash in" on the non-event, some weeks after it happened, making a mountain out of a molehill, is demonstration enough why many people find Mrs McCanns motives somewhat "dubious" when recounting such incidents. To say that she had received a death threat is simply a gross exaggeration. This was posted on a small Facebook page, as a foolish remark. She did not receive it. She either found it while scouring the net for unflattering content or was alerted to it by a third party. Therefore, unless someone actually contacted her directly and informed her that they intended to take her life, there was no death threat made to her. And that's a fact whether she likes it or not. Gaining PR mileage on the back of an untruth, that is taking the "game" off the green and into the rough. Wrong at every level. And liable to fan the flame of dissent yet further.

Remember her saying she felt like killing Murat? Was that a death threat? Wishing Amaral to fear terror also leaves a nasty taste in ones mouth. But that's OK, because her lawyers "cleared" the contents of her book when she said these things.

It's all very well Lorraine Kelly simpering in a vacuous fashion on an over-stuffed sofa, but she is party to perpetuating this myth without checking her facts. The total bias she and others of her ilk demonstrate is just shockingly unprofessional and empty headed. Fine to support the McCanns as we all have freedom of choice and she obviously genuinely likes Kate, but when a story is repeated time and again which has little or no basis in fact, please don't be so naive as to think this won't, in the long run, cause more harm than good. SY will be aware of this so called "threat", and they will know that no further action was necessary as the police spoke to the culprit, but they WILL take notice if Kate continues to grossly misuse this for her own gain. By twisting a minor incident in this fashion, the SY review team will undoubtedly raise an eyebrow when considering the veracity of other "accounts of the truth".

If there was a real genuine threat, one which the Police were aware of, not only would Kate not have run the marathon, but she probably would have been advised not to go on TV or broadcast the fact. If it were a real threat, I doubt she would have wanted to seek publicity or attention at this time.

Time someone learnt when to button it.

All correct Smokeandmirrors, I was there reading when the remark was made, when each post got sillier with a lot of lol and smilies. No way a death threat. However if there has been a serious death threat then the appropriate action will have been taken and I am amazed that Kate brought it to the attention of the masses in this interview.

by **tigger** 22.04.13 20:52

aiyoyo wrote:

Give her some thick gold necklaces, and a cigar held in chunky ringed fingers, who does she remind us of? Same creepy cheshire cat smile on wrinkled face and stringy bottled blond hair.....?

Just occurs to me that that forehead looks well and truly botoxed to me.

by **Nina** 22.04.13 20:57

tigger wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:

Give her some thick gold necklaces, and a cigar held in chunky ringed fingers, who does she remind us of? Same creepy cheshire cat smile on wrinkled face and stringy bottled blond hair.....?

Just occurs to me that that forehead looks well and truly botoxed to me.

Yes she does have a smooth unfurrowed brow. That is what comes of leading a good christian home loving life.

by loopzdaloop 22.04.13 21:59

PeterMac wrote:Back onto the Thread
The Express is surely winding them up.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/393008/Kate-McCann-hit-by-vile-web-trolls-over-marathon-run
Kate McCann hit by vile web ‘trolls’ over marathon run
KATE McCann revealed yesterday she has received sickening internet abuse as she prepares to run the London Marathon.
By: David Pilditch Published: Fri, April 19, 2013

Kate McCann talks about the London Marathon on ITV

Kate – whose daughter Madeleine went missing in Portugal six years ago – spoke out ahead of Sunday’s race. In one incident last month police investigated after an internet “troll” threatened to gun her down during the gruelling event.
To me this is a classic "Go on, sue us. We want our money back"

Its disgusting that the express would use photos like this of them when they know fully well how the Mccann's feel about them using photos which depict positive affect.

Bentall (1992) makes a compelling argument as to the nature of the dysfunctional nature of these sorts of biological abnormalities.

Evidence that happiness
is statistically abnormal has already been discussed
and, despite the lack of clear data, there is at least some
reason to suppose that happiness confers a biological
disadvantage, at least in the short term. Consistent
clinical evidence of an association between happiness,
obesity and indulgence in alcoholic beverages has
existed from before the time of scientific medicine. (Julius Caesar, for example, is reputed to have asked
for the company of fat men on these grounds (24)).
Given the well-established link between both alcohol
and obesity and life-threatening illnesses it seems
reasonable to assume that happiness poses a moderate
risk to life. The common observation that happiness
leads to impulsive behaviour is a further cause for
concern.

It has been shown that happy
people, in comparison with people who are miserable
or depressed, are impaired when retrieving negative
events from long-term memory (29). Happy people
have also been shown to exhibit various biases of
judgement that prevent them from acquiring a realistic
understanding of their physical and social
environment. Thus, there is consistent evidence that
happy people overestimate their control over
environmental events (often to the point of perceiving
completely random events as subject to their will), give
unrealistically positive evaluations of their own
achievements, believe that others share their
unrealistic opinions about themselves, and show a
general lack of evenhandedness when comparing
themselves to others

(more can be read here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1376114/pdf/jmedeth00282-0040.pdf)

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by **PeterMac** 22.04.13 23:55

Never trust a thin cook.

by aiyoyo 23.04.13 10:11

tigger wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:

Give her some thick gold necklaces, and a cigar held in chunky ringed fingers, who does she remind us of? Same creepy cheshire cat smile on wrinkled face and stringy bottled blond hair.....?

Just occurs to me that that forehead looks well and truly botoxed to me.

Now then.............now then............

by zodiac 23.04.13 13:20

PeterMac wrote:Back onto the Thread
The Express is surely winding them up.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/393008/Kate-McCann-hit-by-vile-web-trolls-over-marathon-run
Kate McCann hit by vile web ‘trolls’ over marathon run
KATE McCann revealed yesterday she has received sickening internet abuse as she prepares to run the London Marathon.
By: David Pilditch Published: Fri, April 19, 2013

Kate McCann talks about the London Marathon on ITV

Kate – whose daughter Madeleine went missing in Portugal six years ago – spoke out ahead of Sunday’s race. In one incident last month police investigated after an internet “troll” threatened to gun her down during the gruelling event.
To me this is a classic "Go on, sue us. We want our money back"

No wonder the Madely one thought she was beautiful:

http://thesteepletimes.com/media-mouthpieces/judy-finnigan/

“If you don’t like the heat, keep off the publicity trail”.

by plebgate 24.04.13 9:03

aiyoyo wrote:

Give her some thick gold necklaces, and a cigar held in chunky ringed fingers, who does she remind us of? Same creepy cheshire cat smile on wrinkled face and stringy bottled blond hair.....?

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To me she's got more lines on her face in that photo than a railway network - if that's what training for a marathon does my advice would be to steer clear of it.

Edited to add - links to interview no longer available due to itv copyright.

by sheila.edwards 24.04.13 19:52

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by Guest 24.04.13 21:15

sheila.edwards wrote:
candyfloss wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

I think that video is not available now sheila from what a poster said earlier in this thread.
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by Olympicana_Reloaded 25.04.13 1:35

“Missing White Woman Syndrome and Fear of Crime"

Transcript:

Recently, National Public Radio ran a story about coverage of what they call “women-in-peril” stories—that is, stories that focus on crimes against young white women, particularly those involving abduction. Jaycee Dugard and Elizabeth Smart, both kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and held captive for long periods, were the focus of intense media attention. ABC News appears to be particularly emphasizing this type of coverage; they scored an exclusive interview with Dugard and have hired Smart as a contributor; her first appearance included a discussion of Dugard’s case.

Of course, no one would deny that both Dugard and Smart underwent horrifying ordeals, and it’s not surprising that their stories drew the public’s attention. However, the media frenzy over these cases reflects a focus that has gotten a name among media critics: Missing White Woman Syndrome. That is, media coverage tends to be higher when victims are young, White, conventionally-attractive women. Research indicates that crimes with white female victims do indeed receive disproportionate coverage. For instance, in a study of local newspaper coverage of 640 homicides in Columbus, Ohio, Richard Lundman found that murders involving a white female victim were more likely to be covered and received higher profile coverage, such as front-page stories. This pattern held even when he controlled for other factors that might influence newsworthiness, such as type of weapon used, age of those involved, neighborhood, and even how uncommon the murder is in terms of the gender, race, and social class of the victim and perpetrator.

The disproportionate coverage that crimes such as the abduction of Elizabeth Smart generate can lead to distortions in our perceptions of risk. While they are shocking, the crimes perpetrated against Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Dugard are, in fact, quite rare. And middle-class white women are at very low risk of being the victims of violent crime in general.

But exposure to news coverage of these types of crimes may increase levels of fear among white women. Researchers at Florida State University looked at how TV coverage of the sexual assault and murder of two teenage girls in Houston affected viewers’ fear of crime, gathering their data in the immediate aftermath of the media frenzy about violent crime, gang violence, and related topics. They found that the only group whose fear of crime was influenced by watching TV stories about the murders was middle-aged white women. Non-white women, and all men, despite being objectively more likely to be victimized, did not become more fearful. The researchers suggest that white women substitute media coverage for direct experience of victimization. That is, generally research indicates that a person’s prior experience with crime (whether as a victim or knowledge of someone who was) is a strong predictor of their fear of becoming a victim; if you’ve been victimized once, it makes sense that you’d be more likely to think it could happen again. But white women who watch the news see a disproportionate number of white female victims, leading to a perception that white women are in much more danger than they actually are. The message here is that media coverage has real-world implications; the TV and print media stories we see can influence our perceptions of ourselves and the world around us. And insofar as white female victims are deemed most newsworthy, media coverage can skew our perceptions of how risky our lives are and which groups are most in need of increased protection from criminal behavior.

by jeanmonroe 25.04.13 12:10

With regard to Jaycee Dugard, whose case the mccanns quote constantly, her step father, Carl Probyn TOOK and PASSED 4 (four) lie detector tests in regards to any involvement in her diaappearance.
The McCanns have never taken a lie detector test.
The McCanns endlessly cite the Dugard case but i have NEVER heard them MENTION the stepfather taking, and passing, lie detector tests.
You'd think they would VOLUNTEER, every day, to take a test, wouldn't you?
Just so the world knows they have left no stone unturned.
IMO, the McCanns have lied but those lies haven't be detected by a lie detector test, because they REFUSE to take one, or any of the super slueths at SY reviewing their case.
WHY won't they take a lie detector test?

by Smokeandmirrors 25.04.13 14:02

jeanmonroe wrote:With regard to Jaycee Dugard, whose case the mccanns quote constantly, her step father, Carl Probyn TOOK and PASSED 4 (four) lie detector tests in regards to any involvement in her diaappearance.
The McCanns have never taken a lie detector test.
The McCanns endlessly cite the Dugard case but i have NEVER heard them MENTION the stepfather taking, and passing, lie detector tests.
You'd think they would VOLUNTEER, every day, to take a test, wouldn't you?
Just so the world knows they have left no stone unturned.
IMO, the McCanns have lied but those lies haven't be detected by a lie detector test, because they REFUSE to take one, or any of the super slueths at SY reviewing their case.
WHY won't they take a lie detector test?

The only conceivable reason is if you knew the outcome, and knew it would be unfavourable.

When the McCanns first offered to do one years ago, I reckon they expected the response to be "No, no, totally unnecessary. We believe you completely". Perhaps the answer was " Absolutely, we'll send a driver for you now, can you be ready in 10 minutes?".

Incidently, right at the beginning of this case, was it Gerry who refused to have the twins drug tested? My memory is not what it should be and it may have been an internet myth. Does anyone remember?

by plebgate 25.04.13 14:45

The time for the twins to have been tested for drugs was the night Maddie went missing. I (and others have frequently posted) would have been banging down the police department's door demanding a drug test on the twins especially as I have read that Mrs. thought that Maddie seemed to be excessively tired on being picked up from the creche. ALARM BELLS TIME surely?
I cannot believe what I read at times, I just cannot.

Now I wonder why the video has been pulled? Copy right issues was the reason given but you only have to look on youtube to see any number of ITV vids. posted. Wonder why???

Will we be seeing Jeremy Kyle's uploads being removed because of copy right issues?

by DIBarlow 25.04.13 18:10

During the London marathon coverage, where thankfully I avoided any sighting of the odious Mrs M, I found my thoughts turning to the thousands of runners and the whole scale of it all.

I have been to watch the event in the past and one really does have to experience it there and then to really appreciate the enormity of it all.

Anyhow, I began to work out who might be the 'odd one out' in the 30k plus.

A series of filters could be applied. Male, female, married, single, parent, grandparent and so on. And then to the myriad of good causes for whom many were running.

But how many of the runners on Sunday had, say, been on holiday with their kids and perhaps temporarily lost one? A few I'd guess.

But ultimately of course, my question was, how many of those in the race had gone on holiday and returned with one less child than they'd gone with?

by **PeterMac** 22.05.13 8:59

Brilliant photo of Kate at the finish line of the Marathon.
This is from their OWN web site. http://www.findmadeleine.com/images/kate_finish_line1.jpg

Look at the caption tucked into her belt !
Kate McCann London Marathon interview and abuse on internet on Daybreak 17/4/13 - Page 4 Kate_finish_line1

Kate McCann London Marathon interview and abuse on internet on Daybreak 17/4/13 - Page 4 Kate_finish_line1

We don't even need to photoshop it.

by Guest 22.05.13 9:16

I'd like to claim the credit for mentioning this first!

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t6909-doctor-on-the-run#153921

I did notice back then that Kate wasn't the only runner with the money logo but strangely I can't now find photos of anyone else with it.

by **PeterMac** 22.05.13 10:39

The more people who mention it the better !
What are their publicity and protection people thinking !

by Guest 22.05.13 10:54

I have now found some images of runners with the "Virgin money" logo - Kate included.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/athletics/london-marathon-2013-results-winners-1845229

by deafoldbat 22.05.13 13:29

Regarding the lie detector issue - they would only take one if they were allowed to set the questions!
(Sorry, cant find the source for this at the moment)

by plebgate 28.04.15 8:22

Did anyone spot Mrs. running the London marathon on Sunday?

I saw some but not all of it. Did I miss her?

by Amy Dean 28.04.15 9:22

Was she due to take part? I didn't see anything about it.

by plebgate 28.04.15 9:24

Don't know, that's why I was asking.

by Amy Dean 28.04.15 11:25

I think that the only London Marathon she did was the one in 2013.

by jeanmonroe 28.04.15 11:34

I haven't 'heard'

But did Huge Grant 'sponsor' ANY 'Missing People' charidy 'runners' in last Sunday's 2015 London Marathon to the 'tune' of £5,000, ala KM in 2013?

If not, WHY not?

by Amy Dean 28.04.15 11:41

Missing People has its own run on 2nd May on Clapham Common.

April Jones's father is due to take part.

by jeanmonroe 28.04.15 11:55

Amy Dean wrote:Missing People has its own run on 2nd May on Clapham Common.

April Jones's father is due to take part.

I had quite 'forgotten' about the Clapham Common 'annual' Missing People 'run'

The 'run' where, last year, G&KM and the 'Oldfields' were erm, 'placed' four square at the head of the 'starting' line, (GM without, not wearing, his GQWB)

LOTS of 'photos' of THEM, not so many of the um, 'also rans'! (who had been 'running/taking part' for YEARS, BEFORE the Mc's 'hijacked' their 'run'!)

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/ClaphamCommon_18_05_2014.htm

by Guest 28.04.15 12:40

plebgate wrote:Did anyone spot Mrs. running the London marathon on Sunday?

I saw some but not all of it. Did I miss her?

Yer daft apeth, try looking for a pair of Adidas good quality all terrain weatherproof pink trainers, impregnated with organic dog repellent with lifelong guarantee - not a pink carnation or even a pink shirt.

Failing that, try for a Popeye and Olive Oyl tribute double-act. smilie

by lj 28.04.15 13:48

Verdi wrote:
snipped
Failing that, try for a Popeye and Olive Oyl tribute double-act.

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