Re: Re: Email and Missingabroad

by Guest 31.01.13 9:03

Jean wrote:I think that name-calling shouldn't play a part here. Let's leave it to the experts elsewhere!

I'm unsure why the McCanns didn't want to be mentioned on a genuine charity's website. They have screamed from the rooftops from Day One to publicise themselves and - occasionally - Madeleine, so what was the problem here?

I agree, but this lady is just full of it and it makes me so very mad !

And the only reason they did not want it on their website is so they could controll ALL the information coming in, trying to make their lie live longer !

by Angelique 31.01.13 9:17

Moa wrote:

I agree, but this lady is just full of it and it makes me so very mad !

And the only reason they did not want it on their website is so they could controll ALL the information coming in, trying to make their lie live longer !

Bobbin wrote:
"The cracking of this case has always depended upon a whistle blowing event.
Sir Christopher Meyers and MissingAbroad did not, to my mind, deliberately, whistleblow, it's just that their spontaneous, open and honest remarks have had the same effect. "

moa

Nail on head.

by aiyoyo 31.01.13 10:02

Jean wrote:

I'm unsure why the McCanns didn't want to be mentioned on a genuine charity's website. They have screamed from the rooftops from Day One to publicise themselves and - occasionally - Madeleine, so what was the problem here?

Because it is bleeding obvious they are playing a game. They just want people to give them money. If they allow others to help them then they wont get any money, simple as that.

On one hand they told MA not to help them, they will do it their way; while on the other hand they were telling the public : look at poor us, no one is helping us, we are left alone to do the search, we need MONEY...give us MONEY so that we can search. They also didn't want PPC to control the press because there is no money to be had from that, preferring to sue because they can get $$$

Walter Scott · by david_uk 31.01.13 10:08

Novak41 wrote:
Moa wrote:And Novak, thanks for blocking your tweets so only your 21 followers can see them :)

LOL - "Im all about truth and honest" - You lied on here and now you hid them so noone can see that you are just as bad as the rest of the Mccann supporters !

U Troll !

I think Moa that you are proving all my points for me. Someone attacked my computer last night and it either came from this forum or twitter. So forgive me if I now make my tweets private. Intimidation, really?? A new low??. Oh btw due to these threats this is my last post here. You really all need to grow up a bit. Just my opinion, of course!

Who attacked her computer!! did she leave it unattended while she went out for a drink!?. Maybe it was a crow or some other large bird got into your house Novak. Maybe, if it was laptop a magpie was trying to carry it away to it could see what all this tweeting is about?

by Guest 31.01.13 10:21

Novak41 wrote:

And folks that is it. I simply wanted to check that the email was genuine. Nothing more, nothing less. And look, I'm admitting that it was genuine as well, not trying to cover it up or lie which I have seen anti McCanns do on many occasions. I wasn't concerned about the email being public, just genuine. It was MA that were concerned about it being public given the nature of their business.

Really? From the tweet I have that is not what you were saying now was it??

by Guest 31.01.13 10:30

Novak41 wrote:
Moa wrote:And Novak, thanks for blocking your tweets so only your 21 followers can see them :)

LOL - "Im all about truth and honest" - You lied on here and now you hid them so noone can see that you are just as bad as the rest of the Mccann supporters !

U Troll !

I think Moa that you are proving all my points for me. Someone attacked my computer last night and it either came from this forum or twitter. So forgive me if I now make my tweets private. Intimidation, really?? A new low??. Oh btw due to these threats this is my last post here. You really all need to grow up a bit. Just my opinion, of course!

Your computer was attacked ? Really ? U want me to believe that? And Im glad you made your tweets private, now no one can see your stupid lies ! Except for your 21 followers that is big grin

And the only one who needs to grow up is you, running like a 4 year old telling MA someone publict an Email not in favour of Mccann !

by Guest 31.01.13 10:36

candyfloss wrote:
Novak41 wrote:

And folks that is it. I simply wanted to check that the email was genuine. Nothing more, nothing less. And look, I'm admitting that it was genuine as well, not trying to cover it up or lie which I have seen anti McCanns do on many occasions. I wasn't concerned about the email being public, just genuine. It was MA that were concerned about it being public given the nature of their business.

Really? From the tweet I have that is not what you were saying now was it??

Not from the tweets I have as well, you where so proud when you got an answer you even PM one of the other Mccann supporters about it ! First when you got busted your tone changed into a more panicking one foot in each camp "I just wanted to see if it was genuin " What was so hard to believe it was genuin anyway ? Because the context shocked you? That your heroes acually had done what the email said ?
Only comfort for you is that its never to late to change your believes and start helping Madeleine getting the truth out there!

by mahlersghost 31.01.13 11:00

I am so confused as to what is going on here tonight but my one request is to mahlersghost please for the love of God use some paragraphing! You're stuff is great to read but some nod to writing properly would be wonderful, it would be much easier to read your posts.

/quote]

I apologise to the poster. I am pleased though that CJW has enjoyed what I have written.

It must be old age catching up with me now that I am a number of years retired from teaching several academic subjects. I get a bit lax in this format. Maybe I'm feeling a bit thin-skinned this morning. No excuse for poor formatting.

by Guest 31.01.13 11:27

Just seen this on twitter, haven't read it yet........

STATEMENT FROM MISSINGABROAD RE RECENT SPECULATION....

Missing Abroad‏@MissingAbroad

Statement in response to recent speculation http://www.missingabroad.org/news/statement-missing-abroad … #mccann

by **HiDeHo** 31.01.13 11:29

Nina wrote:Can someone very kindly explain to me how twitter works, ? I know that thousands upon thousands of people use it, from the man in the street right up to the higher echelons so how do they all communicate? It is a very powerful tool to spread information but I just don't get how it works.

Nina, I have very little knowledge of Twitter and I hate Facebook (even though I admin a Facebook group lol) but I will explain all that I know, which is very little so it may be easier to understand! Re: Email and Missingabroad - Page 3 110921

Re: Email and Missingabroad - Page 3 110921

Twitter is a method of making a comment (about 140 characters) or giving links to the world to anyone who follows a specific topic or follows you.

Choose an email account to use and open a Twitter account.

The basics of Twitter is that the # symbol before a topic name will automatically add that posting to the list of Tweets in that 'search' .

eg #mccann on your posting means it will be added to the 'Search' for those following #mccann. You will be able to view all the comments regarding McCann (including tweets about advertising of McCann cookies or whatever!)

You can create a manual message to send to others following #McCann or you can easily send an automatic link from many places that have the Twitter button.

eg. For a manual message Click on the little square with a feather and a window pops up allowing you to type in your message. Limited to 140 characters you may choose to highlight it should be 'sent' to the McCANN search by adding the # to the McCann name in the post or you can add it at the end. I believe it may automatically find its way to McCann seach if that name is included even without the # sign.

To send automatically eg Youtube, find the Twitter button, click on it and it should automatically give the link. You can then add your comment (keeping the comment and link less than 140 characers) add the 'search' you want it added to by adding #mccann #mccanns at the end so everyone that follows that search will see it.

Dependent on the interest in the content of your tweets, others will choose to 'follow' you and your tweets will automatically be shown to them on their page when tweeted (but for someone like me I never look at that page so never see the tweets of those that I follow. I only occasionally search to see tweets of a specific topic #mccann #mccanns #savile etc).

You can choose to 'follow' someone else and once they are alerted they may also choose to follow you.

Once you do a search for a topic you choose to follow you can save it in your 'Saved Searches' put #mccann in the search box and it will bring up all the top tweets for mccann...Click on ALL and you can see the latest tweets and as a new tweet is tweeted it automatically shows there are new tweets.

There are also options on your home page to see the history if you have been 'mentioned' in a tweet. Whether someone tweeted to you or mentioned your name in a tweet.I only use my @HiDeHo account to send out videos. If someone likes the videos (or comment or other link) they can choose to retweet it, hence sending it back to the top of the eg 'mccann' search page or to their many followers , who in turn may do the same creating the potential of your tweet multiplyng exponentially and, ultimately 'trending' on Twitter.

One example you can help make a difference is to tweet the videos, which is simple.

1) Once you see a video posted in here....click on the bottom right of the embedded video where it says 'YouTube'.

That will open the Youtube page for that video.

2) Click on 'share' and it will open up some buttons including Facebook and Twitter.

3) If you have Facebook or twitter and click on those buttons, a message window including the title and link of the video will open up. All you have to do is add #mccann #mccanns to the end (so it appears in McCann searches) and click send.

Same with Facebook (without the #mccann) and it will automatically appear on your Facebook page.

Whether you can understand my post I don't know...(Maybe someone can correct me if I am wrong) but if you can open an account you can just follow the last steps to send a video tweet, or put #mccann in the search box, click on 'See all tweets' and retweet any of the tweets that you choose...Simple. (maybe...lol)

by Guest 31.01.13 11:33

candyfloss wrote:Just seen this on twitter, haven't read it yet........

STATEMENT FROM MISSINGABROAD RE RECENT SPECULATION....

Missing Abroad‏@MissingAbroad

Statement in response to recent speculation http://www.missingabroad.org/news/statement-missing-abroad … #mccann

by tiny 31.01.13 11:50

Bet cr have been on to them,

by ShuBob 31.01.13 11:59

candyfloss wrote:Just seen this on twitter, haven't read it yet........

STATEMENT FROM MISSINGABROAD RE RECENT SPECULATION....

Missing Abroad‏@MissingAbroad

Statement in response to recent speculation http://www.missingabroad.org/news/statement-missing-abroad … #mccann

Oh dear!

So the matter is of such seriousness that a statement had to be released Re: Email and Missingabroad - Page 3 110921

. Perhaps, the McCanns were worried about the prospect of TB capitalising on this matter next week. If he wants to, he still can.

Even if one believes the reason the McCanns didn't initially want to be associated with site, what is their reason NOW?

by Guest 31.01.13 12:00

Missing Abroad has received an unprecedented amount of enquiries in the
last 48 hours regarding Madeleine McCann. These enquiries have
predominantly been asking why Madeleine is not featured on our website.

Unfortunately,
a large amount of interest has been generated in this and many people
have speculated and come to their own, incorrect, conclusions.

At
the time Madeleine disappeared, Missing Abroad did not exist. Instead,
The Lucie Blackman Trust website (The organisation that runs Missing
Abroad) posted a banner and links to a downloadable poster of Madeleine
to assist in the search.

The Lucie Blackman Trust did not
feature missing persons at the time and was a personal safety website.
It featured detailed news updates about the horrific death of Lucie
Blackman in Tokyo.

We understand that at the time it was not
desired to draw a comparison between Lucie and Madeleine and given that
Lucie’s case was regularly featured in the international news we agreed.
We were called by a member of staff helping the McCann family who asked
us to remove the content. Therefore we removed the links and banner
from the website.

At the time the media and publicity
surrounding Madeleine’s case was far greater than the attention our
website was receiving. Even today, it is doubtful that Missing Abroad
could achieve anything that would significantly boost Madeleine’s
profile.

It is incorrect to surmise that Kate and Gerry McCann
refused the services of Missing Abroad – there were no such services at
the time.

It is incorrect to surmise that Kate and Gerry McCann insisted the content was removed – they did not.

Any family that does want a missing person publicised on the Missing Abroad website can request to do so.

Missing
Abroad requests that all speculation, publication of private emails
without consent, and all activities that detract from the search for all
missing persons immediately ceases. We are consulting with police and
offer our full support to the McCann family and the Metropolitan Police
review.

Our primary concern is the search for missing persons
abroad. These activities have weakened our ability to help all families
in need.

http://www.missingabroad.org/news/state ... ing-abroad

***
Bizarre statement from an organisation dealing with "Missing Abroad" persons ...

by ShuBob 31.01.13 12:02

Châtelaine wrote:
Bizarre statement from an organisation dealing with "Missing Abroad" persons ...

Quite.

by DIBarlow 31.01.13 12:05

Backtracking seems to be TMs favourite pastime?

How can anyone find a correlation between the quite specific content and observation of the email and the latest 'announcement' by Missing Abroad?

Quite simply there isn't any.

However, it seems that Missing Abroad are fairly confident ('it is doubtful that...') that Madeleine's profile is as big and as global as it could possibly be? After all, if Missing Abroad, specifically there for people missing abroad, can't 'significantly boost' a profile of someone 'missing abroad', who on earth could?

What was the claim from the parents about 'damaging the search' again?

by ShuBob 31.01.13 12:13

DIBarlow wrote:

"However, it seems that Missing Abroad are fairly confident ('it is doubtful that...') that Madeleine's profile is as big and as global as it could possibly be? After all, if Missing Abroad, specifically there for people missing abroad, can't 'significantly boost' a profile of someone 'missing abroad', who on earth could?"

Good point, DIBarlow. I think the MA statement has done more harm than the initial email ever could.

by bristow 31.01.13 12:17

Missing Abroad requests that all speculation, publication of private emails
without consent, and all activities that detract from the search for all
missing persons immediately ceases.

That sounds a familiar phrase.

What the heck is going on? Sounds like they have spoken to KM for sure.
Don't the Mccann's realise this sort of behaviour just makes them appear more and more suspicious?

Missing abroad would have been far wiser to say nothing, this statement makes them sound worryingly political.

by pennylane 31.01.13 12:44

tiny wrote:Bet cr have been on to them,

Yep... the fat cat, bully boys Re: Email and Missingabroad - Page 3 867230

by tiny 31.01.13 12:48

Abroad requests that all speculation, publication of private emails
without consent, and all activities that detract from the search for all
missing persons immediately ceases. We are consulting with police and
offer our full support to the McCann family and the Metropolitan Police
review.
why would they be consulting with police?

by nobodythereeither 31.01.13 12:54

"All activities that detract from the search" ?!?!?!?!

Like requesting that information about a child missing abroad be removed from a website specifically set up to publicise information about people missing abroad?

Or does that not "detract from the search"?

This just gets more and more bizarre.

ETA: And yes, why would they - now - be consulting with police?

by Guest 31.01.13 12:57

We still have the original email, and this contradict what they wrote in the first place.

And even tough their campaign is well known around the world, I'm sure having her information on their website would not be unhelpful in anyway.

The mccann obviously will not have ppl looking for their daughter, if they would her information would be on every possibly missing person Website out there!

It's really not complicated , but when trying to dismiss truth and throwing in all this lies it becomes complicated. Exactly what they have been doing from day 1 !

We all know their story is a big lie, it goes high up, but the truth will come out one day, it always does and always will . It may not seem or feel that way , but it will at one point. But the more ppl involved in the lie, the more ppl will fall with them thus longer it takes before the truth comes out. Savile case is a good example of that.

The intuition is your soul speaking to you, always trust it !

by Guest 31.01.13 13:16

Re: Email and Missingabroad - Page 3 Missin10

Just thought I'd post the screenshot here as we all know how these things tend to go "whoosh clunk". winkwink

by Guest 31.01.13 13:36

I'm so mad ! This is a total and utterly lie !

They Said before knowing this would reach the public that Kate and Gerry wanted it removed because they had their own campaign and did not need their help.
And now it's because of the association with the LB case they wanted it removed. Only one can be true so is it what was said before or after the call from the angry TM ? I know wich one I believe in !

I will gladly sirculate their lies side by side, what can they do, arrest me for it ? If so BRING IT ON !

Walter Scott · by david_uk 31.01.13 13:41

So much protection....just how awful is this truth

by tiny 31.01.13 13:43

Moa wrote:I'm so mad ! This is a total and utterly lie !

They Said before knowing this would reach the public that Kate and Gerry wanted it removed because they had their own campaign and did not need their help.
And now it's because of the association with the LB case they wanted it removed. Only one can be true so is it what was said before or after the call from the angry TM ? I know wich one I believe in !

I will gladly sirculate their lies side by side, what can they do, arrest me for it ? If so BRING IT ON !

Moa,calm down,we all know the first email was correct,but thats what cr do,frighten people and it has worked with missing abroad.

by tiny 31.01.13 13:45

david_uk wrote:So much protection....just how awful is this truth

i would say bad,very bad.poor Madeleine

by Guest 31.01.13 13:50

tiny wrote:
Moa wrote:I'm so mad ! This is a total and utterly lie !

They Said before knowing this would reach the public that Kate and Gerry wanted it removed because they had their own campaign and did not need their help.
And now it's because of the association with the LB case they wanted it removed. Only one can be true so is it what was said before or after the call from the angry TM ? I know wich one I believe in !

I will gladly sirculate their lies side by side, what can they do, arrest me for it ? If so BRING IT ON !

Moa,calm down,we all know the first email was correct,but thats what cr do,frighten people and it has worked with missing abroad.

I will not calm down ! I'm sick and tiered of the lies coming from that child neglecting couple ! May they be bitten by karma ,soon, very soon. I hope the world fall in their head !

by tiny 31.01.13 13:56

Moa wrote:
tiny wrote:
Moa wrote:I'm so mad ! This is a total and utterly lie !

They Said before knowing this would reach the public that Kate and Gerry wanted it removed because they had their own campaign and did not need their help.
And now it's because of the association with the LB case they wanted it removed. Only one can be true so is it what was said before or after the call from the angry TM ? I know wich one I believe in !

I will gladly sirculate their lies side by side, what can they do, arrest me for it ? If so BRING IT ON !

Moa,calm down,we all know the first email was correct,but thats what cr do,frighten people and it has worked with missing abroad.

I will not calm down ! I'm sick and tiered of the lies coming from that child neglecting couple ! May they be bitten by karma ,soon, very soon. I hope the world fall in their head !

yes moa we are all sick and tired of the lies from the mccanns ,but when no one in authority will speak up for Madeleine the only thing we can do is spread the word and piont out all the lies they have told.oh yes karma will catch them and justice for Madeleine will prevail.