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Post by bristow 10.07.12 23:05

Highly disappointing answer from Mr. Birch!

If you are still online Mr. Birch please can you give your opinions on the cadaver, and blood dogs Eddie and Keeler.
You said you thoroughly read the files so you would of course have seen their massive significance in this case?

Must say I am not convinced this is the same person who I have seen in the videos, the style of writing etc doesn't seem too clued up.
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Post by roy rovers 10.07.12 23:10

I think you're the same guy - not an imposter. Good luck to you.

So you created a hypothesis that you are reluctant to share until the drive is dug up. How about sharing the hypothesis to demonstrate why the drive needs to be dug up?
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Post by Guest 10.07.12 23:13

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Given my hypothesis and the limiting of permatations, time became a critical component of the investigation



Why was time a critical component. This case has been unsolved for 5 years. It's not as if you are saying that you know where Madeleine is being held and could be rescued. So why not take time and think of other permatations instead of just one?? What was the rush?
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Post by Liz Eagles 10.07.12 23:13

aquila wrote:Deleted. Aquila no need for that at all. Your opinion of course, but you are being personal - calling someone names, if you do not afree with the post say so but do not call members names. I seem to remember you jumped in the other day and did the same thing for which you later apologised.

I apologise again. I find it hard to believe that such an elequent speaker on Cape-talk radio is the same person calling himself Stephen Birch on this forum. I am highly protective of the credibility of this forum as is obvious from my posts. I very much doubt that the person purporting to be Stephen Birch on this forum is indeed the real thing. That is my opinion. I challenge that person to send to this forum a video/voice link.

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Post by Guest 10.07.12 23:16

aquila wrote:
aquila wrote:Deleted. Aquila no need for that at all. Your opinion of course, but you are being personal - calling someone names, if you do not afree with the post say so but do not call members names. I seem to remember you jumped in the other day and did the same thing for which you later apologised.

I apologise again. I find it hard to believe that such an elequent speaker on Cape-talk radio is the same person calling himself Stephen Birch on this forum. I am highly protective of the credibility of this forum as is obvious from my posts. I very much doubt that the person purporting to be Stephen Birch on this forum is indeed the real thing. That is my opinion. I challenge that person to send to this forum a video/voice link.

That's better Aquila, thank you. It is perfectly good to have an opinion and to criticise posts you disagree with, but calling people names is rather below the belt.
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Post by Guest 10.07.12 23:20

Reading that I also think it could be the guy in the videos, there's a hint of the same romanticism.

I still think the whole thing is just a hoax though.
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Post by bristow 10.07.12 23:25

Stephen Birch wrote:Good evening to everyone. I hope that you all well, and that am able to shed some light on the questions that you have posted. I,ve decided to come onto this blog and inform you as to the status of the investigation. I want to state that the sole objective of this investigation is to find MADELEINE MC CANN, and to bring closure to this case for millions of people. I want to further state, that no one person owns the right to the investigation, and if it had not been for the Portuguese Police making information about the case available to the public, I would not have been able to work on this case. I,ve stated from the onset that finding MADELEINE MC CANN will narrow the investigation, and assist the Portuguese Police into solving this case. The Portuguese Police in my opinion did an excellent job under very difficult circumstances. It's not easy to conduct an investigation when language, long distances and international sitings extend the scope of works.

I familiarized myself with information provided by the Portuguese Police. I read over 12 000 pages, often walking out of my office to a rising sun. From the begining I decided to create a hypothesis, I had limited resources and limited time, so I created a hypothesis that MADELEINE died on the 3rd MAY 2007 and was buried in Praia da luz on that same evening. Anything outside that hypothesis, would create to many permatations, and I would not be able to solve the case. Given my hypothesis and the limiting of permatations, time became a critical component of the investigation. Every minute became inportant.My favourite imaginery character Sherlock Homes once said, and I quote,"if you are able to take the impossible out of the equation, the rest is academic. Inorder to do that, you must have extreme attention to detail, which I believe I have.

I am going to answer a couple of questions, obviously I cannot deal with all of them. Here goes. Well how did I get into the yard with the big dogs??? Well at night one large dog is kept in the front of the property, while all 3 other dogs sleep inside the house with Mrs Jenny Murat.That's only on cold nights. On warm nights, the dogs circulate, hence I only went in on cold windy nights.Wind played a pivotable role and I had to wait for a northerly wind to blow before entering the property.(in otherwords I was down wind of the big dog) Why did I not dig?? Well actually I really did try to dig. On my fourth entrance into the property, I went in only with a spade to dig, and after I moved the top layer of stones away with my hands, encountered a hard sticky tarr layers. I tried to dig through it, but the noise was to loud, and so I gave up. Remember it was 5am in the morning, and the sound of a spade slamming into hard tarr travels. Why did I choose that location to search?? Well can I be granted the right to hold over on that question, you see, inorder to answer that question, I need to start accusing people other than the Murat family, and I don't want to do that before we recover MADELEINE. With regard to the British press, I am deeply dissapointed that they did not cover the story, even thou the rest of the world thought it important. Lastly I am now liasing with the Portuguese Police and am waiting for a response. I hope that we can all stay focussed, that sanity can prevail, and we can establish one way or another whether MADELEINE MC CANN is buried underneath the rear pebble driveway of CASA LILLIANA. Keep well Stephen Birch

Just reposting this incase Mr. Birch has second thoughts and removes his original post.
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Post by Liz Eagles 10.07.12 23:33

Candyfloss, please confirm that a person cannot remove their own post. Only a moderator can do that. Or do I have it wrong? Bristow seems to think Stephen Birch can remove his post.
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Post by Guest 10.07.12 23:35

aquila wrote:Candyfloss, please confirm that a person cannot remove their own post. Only a moderator can do that. Or do I have it wrong? Bristow seems to think Stephen Birch can remove his post.

They cannot actually remove or delete a post, but they can edit a post as can all members for a certain period. So they can delete what they have written, but their actual name will stay and they will have to write something even a dash or say deleted. They cannot delete their whole post and name.
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Post by Liz Eagles 10.07.12 23:36

candyfloss wrote:
aquila wrote:Candyfloss, please confirm that a person cannot remove their own post. Only a moderator can do that. Or do I have it wrong? Bristow seems to think Stephen Birch can remove his post.

They cannot actually remove or delete a post, but they can edit a post as can all members for a certain period. So they can delete what they have written, but their actual name will stay and they will have to write something even a dash or say deleted. They cannot delete their whole post and name.

Thank you Candyfloss.
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Post by Jill Havern 10.07.12 23:40

aquila wrote:Candyfloss, please confirm that a person cannot remove their own post. Only a moderator can do that. Or do I have it wrong? Bristow seems to think Stephen Birch can remove his post.

They can remove their post for a short amount of time.
Mr Birch does seem to be the real Mr Birch according to his details.

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Post by Jill Havern 10.07.12 23:41

candyfloss wrote:They cannot delete their whole post and name.

Oh yes they can! laughat

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Post by Guest 10.07.12 23:44

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
candyfloss wrote:They cannot delete their whole post and name.

Oh yes they can! Questions to Mr Stephen Birch - Page 2 742129

Can they, I didn't know that, people normally delete then just say deleted or something. Have they got a cross to delete then?
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Post by Jill Havern 10.07.12 23:49

candyfloss wrote:
Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
candyfloss wrote:They cannot delete their whole post and name.

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Can they, I didn't know that, people normally delete then just say deleted or something. Have they got a cross to delete then?

Yeah they can edit or delete for a short period of time (30 minutes).

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Post by bristow 10.07.12 23:57

Yes I deleted my original post as I had copied and pasted Mr. Birch's post then decided it would be better to do a quote of his original.

There was a X to click to then you were asked if you wished to delete it.
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Post by tigger 11.07.12 9:02

For good measure I'm posting the link to the transcript of Cape Radio here too:
http://regretsandramblings.com/2012/07/07/birch-talks-to-capetalk-radio/

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Post by sweetex 11.07.12 9:08

Stephen Birch wrote:Good evening to everyone. I hope that you all well, and that am able to shed some light on the questions that you have posted. I,ve decided to come onto this blog and inform you as to the status of the investigation. I want to state that the sole objective of this investigation is to find MADELEINE MC CANN, and to bring closure to this case for millions of people. I want to further state, that no one person owns the right to the investigation, and if it had not been for the Portuguese Police making information about the case available to the public, I would not have been able to work on this case. I,ve stated from the onset that finding MADELEINE MC CANN will narrow the investigation, and assist the Portuguese Police into solving this case. The Portuguese Police in my opinion did an excellent job under very difficult circumstances. It's not easy to conduct an investigation when language, long distances and international sitings extend the scope of works.

I familiarized myself with information provided by the Portuguese Police. I read over 12 000 pages, often walking out of my office to a rising sun. From the begining I decided to create a hypothesis, I had limited resources and limited time, so I created a hypothesis that MADELEINE died on the 3rd MAY 2007 and was buried in Praia da luz on that same evening. Anything outside that hypothesis, would create to many permatations, and I would not be able to solve the case. Given my hypothesis and the limiting of permatations, time became a critical component of the investigation. Every minute became inportant.My favourite imaginery character Sherlock Homes once said, and I quote,"if you are able to take the impossible out of the equation, the rest is academic. Inorder to do that, you must have extreme attention to detail, which I believe I have.

I am going to answer a couple of questions, obviously I cannot deal with all of them. Here goes. Well how did I get into the yard with the big dogs??? Well at night one large dog is kept in the front of the property, while all 3 other dogs sleep inside the house with Mrs Jenny Murat.That's only on cold nights. On warm nights, the dogs circulate, hence I only went in on cold windy nights.Wind played a pivotable role and I had to wait for a northerly wind to blow before entering the property.(in otherwords I was down wind of the big dog) Why did I not dig?? Well actually I really did try to dig. On my fourth entrance into the property, I went in only with a spade to dig, and after I moved the top layer of stones away with my hands, encountered a hard sticky tarr layers. I tried to dig through it, but the noise was to loud, and so I gave up. Remember it was 5am in the morning, and the sound of a spade slamming into hard tarr travels. Why did I choose that location to search?? Well can I be granted the right to hold over on that question, you see, inorder to answer that question, I need to start accusing people other than the Murat family, and I don't want to do that before we recover MADELEINE. With regard to the British press, I am deeply dissapointed that they did not cover the story, even thou the rest of the world thought it important. Lastly I am now liasing with the Portuguese Police and am waiting for a response. I hope that we can all stay focussed, that sanity can prevail, and we can establish one way or another whether MADELEINE MC CANN is buried underneath the rear pebble driveway of CASA LILLIANA. Keep well Stephen Birch

English is not my first language, and I am not sure if it is Mr Birch, he speaks English fluently though. If you can point out some of the serious grammar issues I may be able to tell whether its SA English. If you talk about things such as "cannot / can not" that is definitely how we talk and write here. We hardly type out the word though - in fact we make it even shorter (tho).

I don't trust IP addresses to be honest. It could be anyone in Cape Town for that matter. What about Martin van Wyk? It seems the two of them is in competition with each other.

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Post by david_uk 11.07.12 9:11

I dont believe this guy for a minute. heard it all before. He reminds me of another Hoaxer, Coldwater, back in the 3A days. spin

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Post by jozi 11.07.12 9:25

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I use to post on Bruntys blog, it got so bad the posts disappeared while you were reading them.
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Post by marxman 11.07.12 9:43

I'm not sure if this is the same Birch fella

but he has opened up a can of worms.

As a dog owner, I am somewhat perplexed

by his lack of knowledge of dogs. He states

that he entered the property when 3 of the

4 dogs were inside, as if this would provide

a more decreit opportunity to conduct his

search. However, dogs have very acute sense

of hearing no matter if they are indoors, and

would have surely 'barked the place' thereby

setting off the dog outside. I'm sorry, but to

enter the property on numerous occasions in

the dead of night without being heard or

rumbled by these dogs I find barking mad.
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Post by Guest 11.07.12 12:28

I agree. My dogs already bark when there's someone at the gate, which is a 120 meter from the house ...
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Post by Liz Eagles 11.07.12 13:11

Supposing I believe this post is from Stephen Birch (which I don't) what is absolutely appalling is that an elderly lady's address has been given out, details of her dogs' whereabouts and how to break into her garden and avoid detection by said dogs and anyone else. That really is malicious and unnecessary imo. How would you feel if someone posted on the internet how to get onto your property? It's probably too late to delete that information but I really do think it's remiss not to remind ourselves that whoever lives in that property is now probably scared to death and is it not irresponsible to pull up the poster who gave this information?
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Post by uppatoffee 11.07.12 13:14

I think that there is already a great deal of information already in the public eye about the Murat house Aquila, including detailed layouts of the house and supposed secret chambers that exist that were printed in the press. I do not think Birch has told us anything really that is new.
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uppatoffee wrote:I think that there is already a great deal of information already in the public eye about the Murat house Aquila, including detailed layouts of the house and supposed secret chambers that exist that were printed in the press. I do not think Birch has told us anything really that is new.

Hi uppatoffee,

I agree the Murats' house has been exposed in the media. What hasn't been detailed is how to break into its garden and avoid detection by dogs or anyone else. I have a little bee in my bonnett about this information being acceptable.
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Post by Guest 11.07.12 13:26

I see what you mean Aquila but I feel that the description of getting in to the garden without being eaten by the dogs is a work of fiction anyway.

I can't see that it will encourage anyone else to try it!
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Post by Liz Eagles 11.07.12 13:37

Jean wrote:I see what you mean Aquila but I feel that the description of getting in to the garden without being eaten by the dogs is a work of fiction anyway.

I can't see that it will encourage anyone else to try it!

If I were to stand in Mrs Murat's shoes would I be so confident that there isn't some nutter out there wanting their 15 minutes of fame? I think it is not good to allow this info onto the forum. I am saying this at the risk of being heavily slated but it's my honest opinion.
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Post by russiandoll 11.07.12 14:55

Have to say I agree with you aquila. It is disturbing that an elderly woman has been dragged into the nasty mix in this way. I wonder if Mr Birch fears trouble for wasting police time with his theory, esp if it is untrue that they are taking him seriously and inviting him back to Portugal and he is feeding the media garbage.
I just hope there is method behind his apparent madness.

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Post by anil39200 11.07.12 16:23

Can you tell us the real reason for this story?
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