McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
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McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
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McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
29 March 2012 | Posted by Joana MoraisLeave a Comment
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Process page 4578Extract
Summarising the diligences that are reported in the process and that were carried out or coordinated by the PJ, the following should be mentioned:
- de factum preservation of the location (despite the fact that it had already been rummaged by countless persons), several collections and exams on the existence of possible residues, as well as a circumstantiated photographic report;
- installation, within the first 24 hours, of an extensive operational scheme, including the participation of several police forces and civil protection services, in a total of over 130 elements;
- reinforcement, within the next 24 hours, of said operational scheme, with the mobilization of over 300 elements from police forces and public entities;
- the operational mechanism that was implemented on the terrain included, among others, and as soon as possible, the installation of posts to control the roads and the southern terrestrial frontier with Spain, the usage of canine detection teams, the usage of exceptional search and rescue means – aerial, terrestrial and maritime -, alerts and broadcasts all over the country and abroad. Just as an example, it is mentioned that during the following weeks and in permanence, two helicopters, four ships and several off-road vehicles were used, apart from air-planes and private ships;
- in the same manner, the investigative operations were coordinated with the specific search operations, and hundreds of diligences were carried out, like the identification and hearing – both formally and informally – of citizens, the execution of door-to-door searches in the residences and tourist resorts of Vila da Luz and surrounding areas, the identification and search of vehicles, and searches on the terrain, in an area that was initially of 15 square kilometres, and then was progressively enlarged until 30 square kilometres (where special attention was given to locations like wells, passages, tunnels, dams and lakes);
The magnitude of this operation exceeded, right from the first moment, the dimension that is commonly used in similar cases, a fact that was made public, having been notoriously and widely publicized by the media.
On the following days, over 700 persons that might possess any relevant information about the disappearance were formally and informally questioned, the PJ having used, for that task, over 100 employees from several departments in Portimão, Faro and Lisbon, which worked on a consecutive basis of 24 hours per day.
Equally, all the locations where images that could be related to the case might exist, were consulted (like, for example, restaurants and petrol stations) and telephone lines from the permanent services of the departments in Faro and Portimão were made available, and a mobile police post was installed in Vila da Luz for the collection of information.
Beyond the already mentioned identifications and domiciliary door-to-door searches, the identification, contact and interview with known suspects in the area that had previously been connected to sexual criminality over minors was carried out.
Also, regarding the missing child’s parents, the PJ was careful to schedule periodic meetings with them and to designate an Official Liaison to the family as support for a permanent relationship, with the accompaniment and active collaboration of the Royal British Consulate in Portimão.
Shortly after the beginning of the investigation, continuous relationships were created with the Leicestershire Constabulary which sent, in support, various of their members to Portugal, having, equally, the PJ sending employees to the UK.
It is emphasized, specifically, that the level of cooperation and of understanding between the PJ and the Leicestershire Constabulary achieved, always, very high levels, united in the common pursuit of the missing child and the truth.
As such, the Portuguese authorities engaged an enormous and expensive panoply of technical and human resources, in the attempt to discover the missing child and the understanding of the explanation of the disappearance.
The PJ never disregarded any information or credible elements – as will be seen in this criminal process – that could have led to the realization of the disappearance, and there have been completed, during these months, more than 2000 diligences, formal and informal, in this regard.
As an example, we refer to the international cooperation, especially with Spain, the Netherlands and the UK which led to the detention and identification of individuals who tried to introduce deceptive information about the hypothetical destination or location of the child.
All of the information with any major or minor level of credibility was explored, nationally and internationally, by the PJ, with special relevance given to dozens of supposed sightings or localizations of the child, most of which, in fact, were widely publicized in the press.
The PJ, as in probably no other investigation in Portugal, withheld no effort, in the sense of providing exceptional technical means, manpower and financing towards the discovery of the child and the determination of the truth of the facts, having been completely accompanied in this effort by the Leicestershire Constabulary, the police department head-quartered in the city of Leicestershire, from where most of the elements of the holiday group are from.
As another example, just the scientific exams alone cost many tens of thousands of euros.
in Polícia Judiciária Final Report, Process pages 4577 to 4581
http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/mccann-web-of-deceit-portugal-doesnt.html?utm_source=BP_recent
29 March 2012 | Posted by Joana MoraisLeave a Comment
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Gerry: We were expecting a Metropolitan type response and I remember saying to the officers “where’s the helicopters? I want helicopters with heat seeking equipment.” And ye know the officer kind of laughed at us and said “you know this isn’t you know we don’t have a Royal Navy” and this thing... and you just... and I’m sure every single parent can understand this because everyone has lost a child momentarily and the terror and how frightening it is, be it in a supermarket or a playground or a park, and you just want everything done and you want... you want the world to stop, and, and scream, and the response ye know was slow. And that’s been one of the hardest things for us, because ye know, Madeleine could have been moved very easily and the Spanish border is only about 90 minutes away and obviously you are on the Mediterranean, and one of the aspects of why we are campaigning internationally is because she could have been taken anywhere. in The McCann's Stockholm Interview
Process page 4578
Summarising the diligences that are reported in the process and that were carried out or coordinated by the PJ, the following should be mentioned:
- de factum preservation of the location (despite the fact that it had already been rummaged by countless persons), several collections and exams on the existence of possible residues, as well as a circumstantiated photographic report;
- installation, within the first 24 hours, of an extensive operational scheme, including the participation of several police forces and civil protection services, in a total of over 130 elements;
- reinforcement, within the next 24 hours, of said operational scheme, with the mobilization of over 300 elements from police forces and public entities;
- the operational mechanism that was implemented on the terrain included, among others, and as soon as possible, the installation of posts to control the roads and the southern terrestrial frontier with Spain, the usage of canine detection teams, the usage of exceptional search and rescue means – aerial, terrestrial and maritime -, alerts and broadcasts all over the country and abroad. Just as an example, it is mentioned that during the following weeks and in permanence, two helicopters, four ships and several off-road vehicles were used, apart from air-planes and private ships;
- in the same manner, the investigative operations were coordinated with the specific search operations, and hundreds of diligences were carried out, like the identification and hearing – both formally and informally – of citizens, the execution of door-to-door searches in the residences and tourist resorts of Vila da Luz and surrounding areas, the identification and search of vehicles, and searches on the terrain, in an area that was initially of 15 square kilometres, and then was progressively enlarged until 30 square kilometres (where special attention was given to locations like wells, passages, tunnels, dams and lakes);
The magnitude of this operation exceeded, right from the first moment, the dimension that is commonly used in similar cases, a fact that was made public, having been notoriously and widely publicized by the media.
On the following days, over 700 persons that might possess any relevant information about the disappearance were formally and informally questioned, the PJ having used, for that task, over 100 employees from several departments in Portimão, Faro and Lisbon, which worked on a consecutive basis of 24 hours per day.
Equally, all the locations where images that could be related to the case might exist, were consulted (like, for example, restaurants and petrol stations) and telephone lines from the permanent services of the departments in Faro and Portimão were made available, and a mobile police post was installed in Vila da Luz for the collection of information.
Beyond the already mentioned identifications and domiciliary door-to-door searches, the identification, contact and interview with known suspects in the area that had previously been connected to sexual criminality over minors was carried out.
Also, regarding the missing child’s parents, the PJ was careful to schedule periodic meetings with them and to designate an Official Liaison to the family as support for a permanent relationship, with the accompaniment and active collaboration of the Royal British Consulate in Portimão.
Shortly after the beginning of the investigation, continuous relationships were created with the Leicestershire Constabulary which sent, in support, various of their members to Portugal, having, equally, the PJ sending employees to the UK.
It is emphasized, specifically, that the level of cooperation and of understanding between the PJ and the Leicestershire Constabulary achieved, always, very high levels, united in the common pursuit of the missing child and the truth.
As such, the Portuguese authorities engaged an enormous and expensive panoply of technical and human resources, in the attempt to discover the missing child and the understanding of the explanation of the disappearance.
The PJ never disregarded any information or credible elements – as will be seen in this criminal process – that could have led to the realization of the disappearance, and there have been completed, during these months, more than 2000 diligences, formal and informal, in this regard.
As an example, we refer to the international cooperation, especially with Spain, the Netherlands and the UK which led to the detention and identification of individuals who tried to introduce deceptive information about the hypothetical destination or location of the child.
All of the information with any major or minor level of credibility was explored, nationally and internationally, by the PJ, with special relevance given to dozens of supposed sightings or localizations of the child, most of which, in fact, were widely publicized in the press.
The PJ, as in probably no other investigation in Portugal, withheld no effort, in the sense of providing exceptional technical means, manpower and financing towards the discovery of the child and the determination of the truth of the facts, having been completely accompanied in this effort by the Leicestershire Constabulary, the police department head-quartered in the city of Leicestershire, from where most of the elements of the holiday group are from.
As another example, just the scientific exams alone cost many tens of thousands of euros.
in Polícia Judiciária Final Report, Process pages 4577 to 4581
http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/mccann-web-of-deceit-portugal-doesnt.html?utm_source=BP_recent
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Re: McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
by russiandoll 30.03.12 9:10
Who the hell does this joker think he is [ he is a joker, look at the still shot of the face of the woman opposite him listening to his garbage]
He demands a heat- seeking helicopter, doesn't ask if they have one for use and although it costs a fortune could they please please use it to try to find Maddie........ the PJ must have been gobsmacked to hear a man who claimed to have left 3 toddlers unattended demand such a thing from them, the bloody nerve of him.
the Med thing is sheer ignorance, did he never hear of the strait of Gibraltar?
As for the navy, they are one of the biggest seafaring nations in history and I think the navy was established about 800 years ago. The child went missing near the coast, of course they used ships in the search.
No wonder the face of their male interviewer was a picture, he was not buying a bit of it by the look of him.
I wish they could be presented with the bill for the cost to the Portuguese of searching for their vanished daughter
He demands a heat- seeking helicopter, doesn't ask if they have one for use and although it costs a fortune could they please please use it to try to find Maddie........ the PJ must have been gobsmacked to hear a man who claimed to have left 3 toddlers unattended demand such a thing from them, the bloody nerve of him.
the Med thing is sheer ignorance, did he never hear of the strait of Gibraltar?
As for the navy, they are one of the biggest seafaring nations in history and I think the navy was established about 800 years ago. The child went missing near the coast, of course they used ships in the search.
No wonder the face of their male interviewer was a picture, he was not buying a bit of it by the look of him.
I wish they could be presented with the bill for the cost to the Portuguese of searching for their vanished daughter
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Re: McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
by aiyoyo 30.03.12 10:51
russiandoll wrote:Who the hell does this joker think he is [ he is a joker, look at the still shot of the face of the woman opposite him listening to his garbage]
He demands a heat- seeking helicopter, doesn't ask if they have one for use and although it costs a fortune could they please please use it to try to find Maddie........ the PJ must have been gobsmacked to hear a man who claimed to have left 3 toddlers unattended demand such a thing from them, the bloody nerve of him.
the Med thing is sheer ignorance, did he never hear of the strait of Gibraltar?
As for the navy, they are one of the biggest seafaring nations in history and I think the navy was established about 800 years ago. The child went missing near the coast, of course they used ships in the search.
No wonder the face of their male interviewer was a picture, he was not buying a bit of it by the look of him.
I wish they could be presented with the bill for the cost to the Portuguese of searching for their vanished daughter
The mccanns were snoring when the search party were out there on hands and knees searching for their first born, yet this arrogant prat had the flaming cheek to come on international TV to say he expected the PJ to order Helicopter with heat detector? Covering what area I wonder since their mate Janey didnt tell the police about the egg-face man until later?
Also I should think that is another one for the Forensic Linguistic thread, because if he'd asked the PJ about helicopter why would PJ mention Royal Navy? Since when Portugal has "Royal" navy? Portugal definitely have navy but "Royal"?
I think gerry is getting his country confused.
I am sure that is a slip of tongue on Gerry's part. I don't believe PJ told him they had no"navy', let alone "royal navy'? He's making that up to embellish his story.
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Re: McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
by nomendelta 30.03.12 11:37
This could prove to be an interesting slip - why "heat seeking" helicopters? What use would they actually have been - it's clearly an answer he's blurted out to make a point so there's some thought proces behind it. But since day one they've insisted it was an "abduction" and not a murder so what use, in a holday resort of all places, would a "heat seeking" mechanism actually be? If she had been, as they would like to suggest, abducted to order then presumably there'd be a pretty secure network involved in taking care of her. She'd be more likely to be in a house with other people than hidden away in a cave so I don't quite get why he thought that would be of help.
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Re: McCann web of deceit: Portugal “doesn't have a Royal Navy”, nor “Helicopters” and is “Mediterranean”
by puzzled 30.03.12 11:49
russiandoll wrote:
He demands a heat- seeking helicopter, doesn't ask if they have one for use and although it costs a fortune could they please please use it to try to find Maddie........
If, indeed, he's telling the truth - or is this another 'detail' that he's suddenly 'remembered'. But it's unbelievable that they're still trying to play the old xenophobia card, even after all these years. Also, I doubt that if a child was reported missing here, they would use heat-seeking helicopters immediately. After all, most children who are reported missing have just wandered off, and are usually found safe not far from where they disappeared. Still, at least the interviewer doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
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