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Post by Guest 23.06.11 12:25

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Why did Robert Naylor enter his own name instead of his child's name?

In total, he did this 3 out of 5 days.

Also, the real Robert Naylor was in apartment BP01 not B1.
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 12:36

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Look at the Y in Naylor on both entries.

The top one was done supposedly by Robert Naylor, who also on that day forgot his childs name and had to cross it out.

The bottom one was done supposedly by his wife.

Yet they both have a very distinctive letter Y and the R is similar also.
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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 12:42

Title: Children at the Creche 

SUNDAY APRIL 29
Jessica Berry 9.10
Elizabeth Naylor 9.10
Alexander Mann 9.15 pool
William Totman 9.15
Madeleine McCann 9.45KM 12.15 GM

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Jessica Berry2 .30
Elizabeth Naylor 2.40
Madeleine McCann 2.45 GM 5.30 GM
Ella O'Brien 2.45 - 3.00(30?)
Alexander Mann 3.00-5.30 pool

JELLYFISH April 29

AM?


Amelie 2.25 km 5.30 GM
Sean 2.25 KM 5.30 GM
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Otis





MONDAY April 30th
Jessica Berry
William
Ella O'Brien 9.15 ROB 12.35
Robert Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM 12.10 GM
Alexander Mann

Tia Patel
William
Madeleine McCann 3.15 KM 3.30 KM
Ella O'Brien 4.00 ROB ..........XXXXXX
Alexander Mann

STARFISH April 30th
Sean 9.20 - 12.15 GM
Amelie 9.20 12.15GM
Lily 9.? 12.45 ?


Sean 3.25... question time question sig
Amelie 3.25 question time question sig
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

MAY 1st Tuesday
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 9.00-----------------xxxxxx
Elizabeth Naylor
William Totman
Alexander Mann
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM Tennis 12.20 GM

Madeleine McCann 2.30 GM ---------- xxxxx
Jessica Berry
Tia Patel
Ella O'Brien 2.30 CAT 5.30 ROB
William Totman
Elizabeth Naylor
Richard Mann

JELLYFISH Toddler 2 May 1 TUESDAY

Amelie 9.20GM 12.20 KM
Sean 9.20GM 12.20 KM
Lily 9.? ? 12.20 ?

Amelie 2.30 KM 5.20 KM
Sean 2.30 KM 5.20 KM
Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





MAY 2nd Wednesday
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 9.30 ROB 12.30 ROB
Elizabeth Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.?(30)GM 1230 CAT
Alexander Mann
William Totman
Tia Patel


Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 2.30 ROB 5.30 ROB
Madeleine McCann 2.45 KM 5.30 KHealy
Alexander


JELLYFISH May 2 Wednesday
Amelie 9.10 GM 12 25KM
Sean 9.10 GM 12 25KM
Lily ???? - 12.25 ?


Amelie 2.40KM 5.20 GM
Sean 2.40KM 5.20 GM
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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May 3rd Thursday
Jessica Berry
Madeleine McCann 9.10 GM 12.25KM
Elizabeth Naylor
William... Totman
R Mann
Ella O'Brien 9.50 ROB 12.30 ROB



Ella O'Brien 2.30 ROB 4.30 CAT
Alexander Mann
Madeleine McCann 2.50 KM 5.30 KM
William Totman


JELLYFISH May 3 Thursday

AM ?

Amelie 2.45 KM 5.25 KM
Sean 2.45KM 5.25 KM
Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


May 4th FRIDAY
Ameie 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
Sean 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
Lily 10.10 DW 12 20 DW

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Post by Guest 23.06.11 12:45

AM2930123
inoutinoutinoutinoutinout
Berry9.1012.009.0012.009.0012.009.3012.309.0012.15
Naylor9.1012.309.2512.309.1012.309.2012.309.10
Mann9.1512.309.3012.309.2512.209.4512.309.2512.30
Totman9.1512.309.0012.259.2012.259.4512.209.2512.20
McCann9.4512.159.3012.109.3012.209.2012.309.1012.25
O'Brien 9.1512.359.00 9.3012.309.5012.30
Patel 9.4512.30
PM2930123
inoutinoutinoutinoutinout
Berry2.305.20 2.305.302.304.30
Naylor2.405.20 2.304.00
Mann3.005.304.30?2.505.302.455.302.305.30
Totman 2.15?2.405.30 3.305.15
McCann2.455.303.153.302.30 2.455.302.505.30
O'Brien2.453.304.00 2.305.302.305.302.304.30
Patel 2.30 2.305.30
did not attend that session
not signed out that session or writing to feint
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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 12:54

MONDAY April 30th
Jessica Berry
William
Ella O'Brien 9.15 ROB 12.35
Robert Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM 12.10 GM
Alexander Mann
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 12:56

That's when someone was entering Robert by mistake, instead of Elizabeth.
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 13:21

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This is April 30th.

Look at the L in Naylor and compare it with the L in Madeleine. Do you think it is similar with it's little curly lift ?
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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 13:26

Yes and the A
NAY AND MAD
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 13:28

Did you know, out of all of the children in Madeleine's group, the only time when all of them were all there together, was in the morning on the 2nd May.

I wonder what was happening with all of the adults at that time ?
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 13:29

ROSA wrote:Yes and the A
NAY AND MAD

Well spotted ROSA.

This is why the Met need to look much closer at these sheets. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 13:32

If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,

see post on the 2nd June.

you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 13:48

Do you know the story of the Prince and the Pauper ?

But in this case it may have been a Princess ?

I will set down a tale

It may be history, it may be only legend,

A tradition.

It may have happened, it may not have happenend.

But it could have happened.....

Mark Twain....
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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 13:52

This means Madeleine never went to kids club on 28th she died i agree with him and you Stella
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 14:02

On that Saturday, the day they arrived, there was no kids club. It started on the 29th.
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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 14:14

Because if she died on the 28th or early hours 29th and i beleive this is more a real date of her death and the creche records if it proves this it is game over for the mccanns fullstop
M dies on 28th and they have to fake it and sign her in with helpers was naylor a helper
the kids club can only know the fake child who was signed in as madeleine
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Post by lj 23.06.11 14:30

Stella wrote:If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,

see post on the 2nd June.

you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Stella, I can't get further back than june 19th. It says older tweets not available.
Would you be able to post the contents here?

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Post by lj 23.06.11 14:33

admin wrote:
The doc wrote:No matter what you dream up the Mccanns did not do anything to THEIR daughter.
 

You must know the McCann's personally to state that as fact?

Maybe he part of their "doc" circle. titter


I am just fascinated by the THEIR in capitals.

If they had such capital parental feelings you would think they would care a bit better for their children.

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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 14:40

The doc must be sick :puke:
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 14:59

lj wrote:
Stella wrote:If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,

see post on the 2nd June.

you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Stella, I can't get further back than june 19th. It says older tweets not available.
Would you be able to post the contents here?

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The point about Naylor - when I rang him, he didn't say "wot the f... you talking about, lennard?" He knew perfectly well. He knows.

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Post by Guest 23.06.11 15:01

ROSA wrote:Because if she died on the 28th or early hours 29th and i beleive this is more a real date of her death and the creche records if it proves this it is game over for the mccanns fullstop
M dies on 28th and they have to fake it and sign her in with helpers was naylor a helper
the kids club can only know the fake child who was signed in as madeleine

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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 15:05

Stella thankyou for all your hardwork and help i think everyone here they know how hard you and candyfloss and admin and the others work to open ours eyes and see the truth i thank you all
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 15:12

Well thank you ROSA. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] But we must not forget one very important thing here. Nothing has been proven yet !!

We still have a LONG way to go to get the Met to look into this thoroughly and to do this properly, they will need to get their hands on the originals that are currently with the PJ, to forensically test all of the handwriting.
Maybe now that Pat Brown is a member here, she will also take a look into this. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

The funny thing is, I have a feeling it will be another one of the guests (not mentioned) that was staying out there who will be the one to blow the whistle. We shall see.
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 15:42

I will say one more thing. The creche sheets alone, is very interesting. But when you put Kiko's phone information along side SOME of it. There are a few very important things that jump out at you.

Gerry had to take a very important phone call from someone on the morning of the 3rd. At exactly the same time as Kate signs a "Madeleine" out of creche AM for the first time that week. It's usually Gerry who signs Madeleine out AM, not Kate.
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 16:20

AM2930123
inoutinoutinoutinoutinout
Berry9.1012.009.0012.009.0012.009.3012.309.0012.15
Naylor9.1012.309.2512.309.1012.309.2012.309.10
Mann9.1512.309.3012.309.2512.209.4512.309.2512.30
Totman9.1512.309.0012.259.2012.259.4512.209.2512.20
McCann9.4512.159.3012.109.3012.209.2012.309.1012.25
O'Brien 9.1512.359.00 9.3012.309.5012.30
Patel 9.4512.30
did not attend that session
not signed out that session

Notice anything else interesting about the morning of the 3rd?

Look who didn't get signed out !!
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Post by Guest 23.06.11 16:24

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AM in9.459.309.309.209.10
AM out12.1512.1012.2012.3012.25
PM in2.453.152.302.452.50
PM out5.303.30 5.305.30
KMsigned
GMsigned
Madeleine not signed out
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Post by lj 23.06.11 17:17

Stella wrote:
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Stella wrote:If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,

see post on the 2nd June.

you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Stella, I can't get further back than june 19th. It says older tweets not available.
Would you be able to post the contents here?

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Post by puzzled 23.06.11 17:35

Stella wrote:

It is believed that she is the daughter of another family staying out there, who was not a Mark Warner guest. A poster on here by the name of Kiko has seen her picture and her name is very similar to the spelling Madeleine.

Very Interesting. Would this mean the parents of this other child were in on it, then?
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Post by puzzled 23.06.11 17:42

Stella wrote:
Study Gerry's handwriting. The slant at the end of the name rising up at the end. The sharp tips to the letters N and R.

Then look at the numbers. Especially the 7. Look at how the minutes after the hour are elevated. Also look for entries that line up exactly with what is above.

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Looking at the handwriting, the most noticeable thing is that in Gerry McCann's writing, on the capital N, the last stroke rises, and turns inwards. On the O'Brien writing, it also rises, but there is a little turn outwards, almost not noticeable. To me, this looks more like the Naylor writing.

What's being hinted at here? Are you saying that one of the tapas 9 was this Naylor person? Is there no independent proof that such a person existed? This matter seems to get more and more bizarre by the minute!
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Post by ROSA 23.06.11 21:03

Naylor didnt get sighed out on the 3rd Stella
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Post by ROSA 24.06.11 0:21

In her book released on 12th May Kate suddenly acknowledged that Madeleine might NOT have taken part in the sailing trip.
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BECAUSE KATE SAID SOMEWHERE ONE DAY MADELEINE WENT SAILING BUT IN HER BOOK SHE IS NOT SURE
Is this because who signed the (child fake)in forgot at the time to tell Kate what that child did or did not do ?
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