The creche enquiry
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Why did Robert Naylor enter his own name instead of his child's name?
In total, he did this 3 out of 5 days.
Also, the real Robert Naylor was in apartment BP01 not B1.
Why did Robert Naylor enter his own name instead of his child's name?
In total, he did this 3 out of 5 days.
Also, the real Robert Naylor was in apartment BP01 not B1.
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Look at the Y in Naylor on both entries.
The top one was done supposedly by Robert Naylor, who also on that day forgot his childs name and had to cross it out.
The bottom one was done supposedly by his wife.
Yet they both have a very distinctive letter Y and the R is similar also.
Look at the Y in Naylor on both entries.
The top one was done supposedly by Robert Naylor, who also on that day forgot his childs name and had to cross it out.
The bottom one was done supposedly by his wife.
Yet they both have a very distinctive letter Y and the R is similar also.
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Title: Children at the Creche
SUNDAY APRIL 29
Jessica Berry 9.10
Elizabeth Naylor 9.10
Alexander Mann 9.15 pool
William Totman 9.15
Madeleine McCann 9.45KM 12.15 GM
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Jessica Berry2 .30
Elizabeth Naylor 2.40
Madeleine McCann 2.45 GM 5.30 GM
Ella O'Brien 2.45 - 3.00(30?)
Alexander Mann 3.00-5.30 pool
JELLYFISH April 29
AM?
Amelie 2.25 km 5.30 GM
Sean 2.25 KM 5.30 GM
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Otis
MONDAY April 30th
Jessica Berry
William
Ella O'Brien 9.15 ROB 12.35
Robert Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM 12.10 GM
Alexander Mann
Tia Patel
William
Madeleine McCann 3.15 KM 3.30 KM
Ella O'Brien 4.00 ROB ..........XXXXXX
Alexander Mann
STARFISH April 30th
Sean 9.20 - 12.15 GM
Amelie 9.20 12.15GM
Lily 9.? 12.45 ?
Sean 3.25... question time question sig
Amelie 3.25 question time question sig
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MAY 1st Tuesday
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 9.00-----------------xxxxxx
Elizabeth Naylor
William Totman
Alexander Mann
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM Tennis 12.20 GM
Madeleine McCann 2.30 GM ---------- xxxxx
Jessica Berry
Tia Patel
Ella O'Brien 2.30 CAT 5.30 ROB
William Totman
Elizabeth Naylor
Richard Mann
JELLYFISH Toddler 2 May 1 TUESDAY
Amelie 9.20GM 12.20 KM
Sean 9.20GM 12.20 KM
Lily 9.? ? 12.20 ?
Amelie 2.30 KM 5.20 KM
Sean 2.30 KM 5.20 KM
Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MAY 2nd Wednesday
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 9.30 ROB 12.30 ROB
Elizabeth Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.?(30)GM 1230 CAT
Alexander Mann
William Totman
Tia Patel
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 2.30 ROB 5.30 ROB
Madeleine McCann 2.45 KM 5.30 KHealy
Alexander
JELLYFISH May 2 Wednesday
Amelie 9.10 GM 12 25KM
Sean 9.10 GM 12 25KM
Lily ???? - 12.25 ?
Amelie 2.40KM 5.20 GM
Sean 2.40KM 5.20 GM
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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May 3rd Thursday
Jessica Berry
Madeleine McCann 9.10 GM 12.25KM
Elizabeth Naylor
William... Totman
R Mann
Ella O'Brien 9.50 ROB 12.30 ROB
Ella O'Brien 2.30 ROB 4.30 CAT
Alexander Mann
Madeleine McCann 2.50 KM 5.30 KM
William Totman
JELLYFISH May 3 Thursday
AM ?
Amelie 2.45 KM 5.25 KM
Sean 2.45KM 5.25 KM
Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
May 4th FRIDAY
Ameie 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
Sean 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
Lily 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
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SUNDAY APRIL 29
Jessica Berry 9.10
Elizabeth Naylor 9.10
Alexander Mann 9.15 pool
William Totman 9.15
Madeleine McCann 9.45KM 12.15 GM
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Jessica Berry2 .30
Elizabeth Naylor 2.40
Madeleine McCann 2.45 GM 5.30 GM
Ella O'Brien 2.45 - 3.00(30?)
Alexander Mann 3.00-5.30 pool
JELLYFISH April 29
AM?
Amelie 2.25 km 5.30 GM
Sean 2.25 KM 5.30 GM
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Otis
MONDAY April 30th
Jessica Berry
William
Ella O'Brien 9.15 ROB 12.35
Robert Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM 12.10 GM
Alexander Mann
Tia Patel
William
Madeleine McCann 3.15 KM 3.30 KM
Ella O'Brien 4.00 ROB ..........XXXXXX
Alexander Mann
STARFISH April 30th
Sean 9.20 - 12.15 GM
Amelie 9.20 12.15GM
Lily 9.? 12.45 ?
Sean 3.25... question time question sig
Amelie 3.25 question time question sig
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MAY 1st Tuesday
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 9.00-----------------xxxxxx
Elizabeth Naylor
William Totman
Alexander Mann
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM Tennis 12.20 GM
Madeleine McCann 2.30 GM ---------- xxxxx
Jessica Berry
Tia Patel
Ella O'Brien 2.30 CAT 5.30 ROB
William Totman
Elizabeth Naylor
Richard Mann
JELLYFISH Toddler 2 May 1 TUESDAY
Amelie 9.20GM 12.20 KM
Sean 9.20GM 12.20 KM
Lily 9.? ? 12.20 ?
Amelie 2.30 KM 5.20 KM
Sean 2.30 KM 5.20 KM
Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MAY 2nd Wednesday
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 9.30 ROB 12.30 ROB
Elizabeth Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.?(30)GM 1230 CAT
Alexander Mann
William Totman
Tia Patel
Jessica Berry
Ella O'Brien 2.30 ROB 5.30 ROB
Madeleine McCann 2.45 KM 5.30 KHealy
Alexander
JELLYFISH May 2 Wednesday
Amelie 9.10 GM 12 25KM
Sean 9.10 GM 12 25KM
Lily ???? - 12.25 ?
Amelie 2.40KM 5.20 GM
Sean 2.40KM 5.20 GM
Lilyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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May 3rd Thursday
Jessica Berry
Madeleine McCann 9.10 GM 12.25KM
Elizabeth Naylor
William... Totman
R Mann
Ella O'Brien 9.50 ROB 12.30 ROB
Ella O'Brien 2.30 ROB 4.30 CAT
Alexander Mann
Madeleine McCann 2.50 KM 5.30 KM
William Totman
JELLYFISH May 3 Thursday
AM ?
Amelie 2.45 KM 5.25 KM
Sean 2.45KM 5.25 KM
Lily xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
May 4th FRIDAY
Ameie 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
Sean 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
Lily 10.10 DW 12 20 DW
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AM | 29 | 30 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
in | out | in | out | in | out | in | out | in | out | |
Berry | 9.10 | 12.00 | 9.00 | 12.00 | 9.00 | 12.00 | 9.30 | 12.30 | 9.00 | 12.15 |
Naylor | 9.10 | 12.30 | 9.25 | 12.30 | 9.10 | 12.30 | 9.20 | 12.30 | 9.10 | |
Mann | 9.15 | 12.30 | 9.30 | 12.30 | 9.25 | 12.20 | 9.45 | 12.30 | 9.25 | 12.30 |
Totman | 9.15 | 12.30 | 9.00 | 12.25 | 9.20 | 12.25 | 9.45 | 12.20 | 9.25 | 12.20 |
McCann | 9.45 | 12.15 | 9.30 | 12.10 | 9.30 | 12.20 | 9.20 | 12.30 | 9.10 | 12.25 |
O'Brien | 9.15 | 12.35 | 9.00 | 9.30 | 12.30 | 9.50 | 12.30 | |||
Patel | 9.45 | 12.30 | ||||||||
PM | 29 | 30 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
in | out | in | out | in | out | in | out | in | out | |
Berry | 2.30 | 5.20 | 2.30 | 5.30 | 2.30 | 4.30 | ||||
Naylor | 2.40 | 5.20 | 2.30 | 4.00 | ||||||
Mann | 3.00 | 5.30 | 4.30 | ? | 2.50 | 5.30 | 2.45 | 5.30 | 2.30 | 5.30 |
Totman | 2.15 | ? | 2.40 | 5.30 | 3.30 | 5.15 | ||||
McCann | 2.45 | 5.30 | 3.15 | 3.30 | 2.30 | 2.45 | 5.30 | 2.50 | 5.30 | |
O'Brien | 2.45 | 3.30 | 4.00 | 2.30 | 5.30 | 2.30 | 5.30 | 2.30 | 4.30 | |
Patel | 2.30 | 2.30 | 5.30 | |||||||
did not attend that session | ||||||||||
not signed out that session or writing to feint | ||||||||||
girl | ||||||||||
boy |
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He is a adult signed into creche i dont know why Stella
MONDAY April 30th
Jessica Berry
William
Ella O'Brien 9.15 ROB 12.35
Robert Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM 12.10 GM
Alexander Mann
Jessica Berry
William
Ella O'Brien 9.15 ROB 12.35
Robert Naylor
Madeleine McCann 9.30 GM 12.10 GM
Alexander Mann
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That's when someone was entering Robert by mistake, instead of Elizabeth.
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This is April 30th.
Look at the L in Naylor and compare it with the L in Madeleine. Do you think it is similar with it's little curly lift ?
This is April 30th.
Look at the L in Naylor and compare it with the L in Madeleine. Do you think it is similar with it's little curly lift ?
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Yes and the A
NAY AND MAD
NAY AND MAD
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Did you know, out of all of the children in Madeleine's group, the only time when all of them were all there together, was in the morning on the 2nd May.
I wonder what was happening with all of the adults at that time ?
I wonder what was happening with all of the adults at that time ?
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ROSA wrote:Yes and the A
NAY AND MAD
Well spotted ROSA.
This is why the Met need to look much closer at these sheets. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,
see post on the 2nd June.
you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
see post on the 2nd June.
you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Do you know the story of the Prince and the Pauper ?
But in this case it may have been a Princess ?
I will set down a tale
It may be history, it may be only legend,
A tradition.
It may have happened, it may not have happenend.
But it could have happened.....
Mark Twain....
But in this case it may have been a Princess ?
I will set down a tale
It may be history, it may be only legend,
A tradition.
It may have happened, it may not have happenend.
But it could have happened.....
Mark Twain....
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This means Madeleine never went to kids club on 28th she died i agree with him and you Stella
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On that Saturday, the day they arrived, there was no kids club. It started on the 29th.
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Because if she died on the 28th or early hours 29th and i beleive this is more a real date of her death and the creche records if it proves this it is game over for the mccanns fullstop
M dies on 28th and they have to fake it and sign her in with helpers was naylor a helper
the kids club can only know the fake child who was signed in as madeleine
M dies on 28th and they have to fake it and sign her in with helpers was naylor a helper
the kids club can only know the fake child who was signed in as madeleine
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Stella wrote:If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,
see post on the 2nd June.
you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Stella, I can't get further back than june 19th. It says older tweets not available.
Would you be able to post the contents here?
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"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment, why would that be our fault?" Gerry
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admin wrote:The doc wrote:No matter what you dream up the Mccanns did not do anything to THEIR daughter.
You must know the McCann's personally to state that as fact?
Maybe he part of their "doc" circle.
I am just fascinated by the THEIR in capitals.
If they had such capital parental feelings you would think they would care a bit better for their children.
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The doc must be sick :puke:
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lj wrote:Stella wrote:If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,
see post on the 2nd June.
you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Stella, I can't get further back than june 19th. It says older tweets not available.
Would you be able to post the contents here?
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The point about Naylor - when I rang him, he didn't say "wot the f... you talking about, lennard?" He knew perfectly well. He knows.
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ROSA wrote:Because if she died on the 28th or early hours 29th and i beleive this is more a real date of her death and the creche records if it proves this it is game over for the mccanns fullstop
M dies on 28th and they have to fake it and sign her in with helpers was naylor a helper
the kids club can only know the fake child who was signed in as madeleine
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] You've got it in one ROSA. Remember the Prince and the Pauper trick ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Stella thankyou for all your hardwork and help i think everyone here they know how hard you and candyfloss and admin and the others work to open ours eyes and see the truth i thank you all
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Well thank you ROSA. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] But we must not forget one very important thing here. Nothing has been proven yet !!
We still have a LONG way to go to get the Met to look into this thoroughly and to do this properly, they will need to get their hands on the originals that are currently with the PJ, to forensically test all of the handwriting.
Maybe now that Pat Brown is a member here, she will also take a look into this. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The funny thing is, I have a feeling it will be another one of the guests (not mentioned) that was staying out there who will be the one to blow the whistle. We shall see.
We still have a LONG way to go to get the Met to look into this thoroughly and to do this properly, they will need to get their hands on the originals that are currently with the PJ, to forensically test all of the handwriting.
Maybe now that Pat Brown is a member here, she will also take a look into this. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The funny thing is, I have a feeling it will be another one of the guests (not mentioned) that was staying out there who will be the one to blow the whistle. We shall see.
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I will say one more thing. The creche sheets alone, is very interesting. But when you put Kiko's phone information along side SOME of it. There are a few very important things that jump out at you.
Gerry had to take a very important phone call from someone on the morning of the 3rd. At exactly the same time as Kate signs a "Madeleine" out of creche AM for the first time that week. It's usually Gerry who signs Madeleine out AM, not Kate.
Gerry had to take a very important phone call from someone on the morning of the 3rd. At exactly the same time as Kate signs a "Madeleine" out of creche AM for the first time that week. It's usually Gerry who signs Madeleine out AM, not Kate.
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AM | 29 | 30 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
in | out | in | out | in | out | in | out | in | out | |
Berry | 9.10 | 12.00 | 9.00 | 12.00 | 9.00 | 12.00 | 9.30 | 12.30 | 9.00 | 12.15 |
Naylor | 9.10 | 12.30 | 9.25 | 12.30 | 9.10 | 12.30 | 9.20 | 12.30 | 9.10 | |
Mann | 9.15 | 12.30 | 9.30 | 12.30 | 9.25 | 12.20 | 9.45 | 12.30 | 9.25 | 12.30 |
Totman | 9.15 | 12.30 | 9.00 | 12.25 | 9.20 | 12.25 | 9.45 | 12.20 | 9.25 | 12.20 |
McCann | 9.45 | 12.15 | 9.30 | 12.10 | 9.30 | 12.20 | 9.20 | 12.30 | 9.10 | 12.25 |
O'Brien | 9.15 | 12.35 | 9.00 | 9.30 | 12.30 | 9.50 | 12.30 | |||
Patel | 9.45 | 12.30 | ||||||||
did not attend that session | ||||||||||
not signed out that session |
Notice anything else interesting about the morning of the 3rd?
Look who didn't get signed out !!
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sun | mon | tue | wed | thur | |
Lobsters | 29 | 30 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
AM in | 9.45 | 9.30 | 9.30 | 9.20 | 9.10 |
AM out | 12.15 | 12.10 | 12.20 | 12.30 | 12.25 |
PM in | 2.45 | 3.15 | 2.30 | 2.45 | 2.50 |
PM out | 5.30 | 3.30 | 5.30 | 5.30 | |
KM | signed | ||||
GM | signed | ||||
Madeleine not signed out |
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Stella wrote:lj wrote:Stella wrote:If you look for Kikoratton on Twitter, note the 2 T's in ratton,
see post on the 2nd June.
you will read what happened when he telephoned this Mr Naylor. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Stella, I can't get further back than june 19th. It says older tweets not available.
Would you be able to post the contents here?
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The point about Naylor - when I rang him, he didn't say "wot the f... you talking about, lennard?" He knew perfectly well. He knows.
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Thank you Stella, very interesting!
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Stella wrote:
It is believed that she is the daughter of another family staying out there, who was not a Mark Warner guest. A poster on here by the name of Kiko has seen her picture and her name is very similar to the spelling Madeleine.
Very Interesting. Would this mean the parents of this other child were in on it, then?
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Stella wrote:
Study Gerry's handwriting. The slant at the end of the name rising up at the end. The sharp tips to the letters N and R.
Then look at the numbers. Especially the 7. Look at how the minutes after the hour are elevated. Also look for entries that line up exactly with what is above.
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Looking at the handwriting, the most noticeable thing is that in Gerry McCann's writing, on the capital N, the last stroke rises, and turns inwards. On the O'Brien writing, it also rises, but there is a little turn outwards, almost not noticeable. To me, this looks more like the Naylor writing.
What's being hinted at here? Are you saying that one of the tapas 9 was this Naylor person? Is there no independent proof that such a person existed? This matter seems to get more and more bizarre by the minute!
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Naylor didnt get sighed out on the 3rd Stella
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In her book released on 12th May Kate suddenly acknowledged that Madeleine might NOT have taken part in the sailing trip.
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BECAUSE KATE SAID SOMEWHERE ONE DAY MADELEINE WENT SAILING BUT IN HER BOOK SHE IS NOT SURE
Is this because who signed the (child fake)in forgot at the time to tell Kate what that child did or did not do ?
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BECAUSE KATE SAID SOMEWHERE ONE DAY MADELEINE WENT SAILING BUT IN HER BOOK SHE IS NOT SURE
Is this because who signed the (child fake)in forgot at the time to tell Kate what that child did or did not do ?
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