Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

by aliberte2 04.01.10 23:25

DCB1 wrote:At last someone has come up with a theory. Thanks marigold.

Did Mine not Count? never mind

by aliberte2 04.01.10 23:27

marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

by marigold 04.01.10 23:58

aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

by vaguely 05.01.10 0:00

marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

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When (which day) did the desperate cleaning of the apartment take place?

by vaguely 05.01.10 0:01

marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

No. Which is probably why it's best to refrain from suggesting that the parents of a missing child are paedophiles. jmvho.

by marigold 05.01.10 0:12

vaguely wrote:
marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

No. Which is probably why it's best to refrain from suggesting that the parents of a missing child are paedophiles. jmvho.

ITS A THEORY FGS

by aliberte2 05.01.10 0:32

marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

Well, There is the Freezer Material for Instance, Suggesting that Madeleine's Body was Frozen and Thawing in the Scenic. There's the McCanns Frantic Unexplained Phone Calls. There is Smith's Statement putting Gerry McCann Heading Toward the Beach with Madeleine in His Arms. There's the Blood Behind the Sofa and the Syringe Found in the Apartment.

I just Tend to Find The Pedophiliac Ring Theories involving All of the Tapas a Bit Too Far Out There without More Proof, Interviews, Research, etc. -- as Much as the News Media Makes it Out to Be Commonplace, it Isn't.

I think the Simplest Explanation is the Best -- that Either the Tapas Aren't Aware of the Cover up, Some of Them Aren't, Or that They Were Willing to Lie and Cover it Up to Save Their Foreign Necks. I Feel That if They really Had Been Part of a Pedophile Ring there Would Have Been Statements, Suspicions, Comments from Neighbors, Disgruntled Colleagues, etc.

The Most Disappointing Thing about the Case has Been the Unwillingness of Neighbors, etc. to Speak about the Tapas and the McCanns. I Don't Think it's Because of Something Sinister - I think They were Just that Boring before The Accident.

by marigold 05.01.10 1:01

aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

Well, There is the Freezer Material for Instance, Suggesting that Madeleine's Body was Frozen and Thawing in the Scenic. There's the McCanns Frantic Unexplained Phone Calls. There is Smith's Statement putting Gerry McCann Heading Toward the Beach with Madeleine in His Arms. There's the Blood Behind the Sofa and the Syringe Found in the Apartment.

I just Tend to Find The Pedophiliac Ring Theories involving All of the Tapas a Bit Too Far Out There without More Proof, Interviews, Research, etc. -- as Much as the News Media Makes it Out to Be Commonplace, it Isn't.

I think the Simplest Explanation is the Best -- that Either the Tapas Aren't Aware of the Cover up, Some of Them Aren't, Or that They Were Willing to Lie and Cover it Up to Save Their Foreign Necks. I Feel That if They really Had Been Part of a Pedophile Ring there Would Have Been Statements, Suspicions, Comments from Neighbors, Disgruntled Colleagues, etc.

The Most Disappointing Thing about the Case has Been the Unwillingness of Neighbors, etc. to Speak about the Tapas and the McCanns. I Don't Think it's Because of Something Sinister - I think They were Just that Boring before The Accident.

Agree there is a load of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence but unfortunately not enough to actually PROVE anything. Whereas, of course, there is absolutely nothing pointing to an abduction. IMO the circumstantial evidence includes, parental behaviour, the deleted phone calls (Mccann case files has a fantastic thread on this) the lying, ridiculously small time frame in which an abduction could have occurred, blood residue, Smith sighting and of course the cadaver dog alerting only to Mccann items and car. I also consider it suspicious that certain photos were photoshoppped and clearly the 'last' photo of Madeleine isn't. She looks much older in the Everton photo. Cuddlecat being washed is also very odd. Then of course we have the FUND, set up almost immediately as a FIGHTING fund and a constant whine for MONEY MONEYMONEY. ( although keeping their own hands out of their pockets)
The reason that I consider a theory to be related to paedophilia is due to government involvement at a high level, the insistence right from the start by Gerry that Madeleine had been 'taken' by a paedophile ring, the Gaspar statements and Yvonne Martin observations (just because females may not be active in paedophile rings does not exclude them being passive participants), the creepy description of Madeleine by Jon Corner, the blackout of gossip of the family by friends and neighbours, the media compliance (D notice as in Operation Ore?), the weird backing of millionaires for no obvious reason other than seeming compassion for this one family above all others.

by Slartibartfast 05.01.10 5:14

marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

Well, There is the Freezer Material for Instance, Suggesting that Madeleine's Body was Frozen and Thawing in the Scenic. There's the McCanns Frantic Unexplained Phone Calls. There is Smith's Statement putting Gerry McCann Heading Toward the Beach with Madeleine in His Arms. There's the Blood Behind the Sofa and the Syringe Found in the Apartment.

I just Tend to Find The Pedophiliac Ring Theories involving All of the Tapas a Bit Too Far Out There without More Proof, Interviews, Research, etc. -- as Much as the News Media Makes it Out to Be Commonplace, it Isn't.

I think the Simplest Explanation is the Best -- that Either the Tapas Aren't Aware of the Cover up, Some of Them Aren't, Or that They Were Willing to Lie and Cover it Up to Save Their Foreign Necks. I Feel That if They really Had Been Part of a Pedophile Ring there Would Have Been Statements, Suspicions, Comments from Neighbors, Disgruntled Colleagues, etc.

The Most Disappointing Thing about the Case has Been the Unwillingness of Neighbors, etc. to Speak about the Tapas and the McCanns. I Don't Think it's Because of Something Sinister - I think They were Just that Boring before The Accident.

Agree there is a load of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence but unfortunately not enough to actually PROVE anything. Whereas, of course, there is absolutely nothing pointing to an abduction. IMO the circumstantial evidence includes, parental behaviour, the deleted phone calls (Mccann case files has a fantastic thread on this) the lying, ridiculously small time frame in which an abduction could have occurred, blood residue, Smith sighting and of course the cadaver dog alerting only to Mccann items and car. I also consider it suspicious that certain photos were photoshoppped and clearly the 'last' photo of Madeleine isn't. She looks much older in the Everton photo. Cuddlecat being washed is also very odd. Then of course we have the FUND, set up almost immediately as a FIGHTING fund and a constant whine for MONEY MONEYMONEY. ( although keeping their own hands out of their pockets)
The reason that I consider a theory to be related to paedophilia is due to government involvement at a high level, the insistence right from the start by Gerry that Madeleine had been 'taken' by a paedophile ring, the Gaspar statements and Yvonne Martin observations (just because females may not be active in paedophile rings does not exclude them being passive participants), the creepy description of Madeleine by Jon Corner, the blackout of gossip of the family by friends and neighbours, the media compliance (D notice as in Operation Ore?), the weird backing of millionaires for no obvious reason other than seeming compassion for this one family above all others.

What you have written there amounts to nothing but speculation.
Last photo 'clearly' photoshopped because Madeleine looked older in the Everton photo?
Government paedophile rings?
Operation ore?
D notices?
Wtf?
This is why we have courts and the legal system.
Thankfully
roll

I thought this was about coherent theories?

by sans_souci 05.01.10 6:53

I was under the impression that what the OP meant by coherent theory was something based on credible facts - ie from official sources and not speculation.

For example, Marigold, you mentioned something about Madeleines body being kept in a freezer before being disposed on in the car. Where is there any solid evidence of a freezer being used?

Suggesting that there is no possibility of abduction demands that Jane Tanners statement is ignored completely, and also that Amarals 'proof' that the front door could not have been used (lock not forced or broken and nobody was authorised to have a key) is accepted.

by Old Nick 05.01.10 9:47

I think coherent fantasy is probably a better term for all the theories I have read on here so far.

by vaguely 05.01.10 9:53

"Well, There is the Freezer Material for Instance, Suggesting that Madeleine's Body was Frozen and Thawing in the Scenic"

But what is this freezer/frozen material? What did the forensic scientists say about it in their report?

ty

by vaguely 05.01.10 9:57

marigold wrote:
vaguely wrote:
marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

No. Which is probably why it's best to refrain from suggesting that the parents of a missing child are paedophiles. jmvho.

ITS A THEORY FGS

I know it's a theory. And I know you have finished your post with JMO. I was just pondering on whether you have a direct reason to suspect them of being paedophiles, or whether you were searching for a reason, a motive, to make it more likely that they were involved. i.e. You've decided they are involved, and now have to create the pieces to fit the puzzle, rather than use the pieces that are already there.

ty

by sans_souci 05.01.10 10:18

Old Nick wrote:I think coherent fantasy is probably a better term for all the theories I have read on here so far.

My solar panel based theory fits perfectly then.

by Guest 05.01.10 11:39

sans_souci wrote:
Old Nick wrote:I think coherent fantasy is probably a better term for all the theories I have read on here so far.

My solar panel based theory fits perfectly then.

Think yours is more likely than Marigold's. Has she ever seen the size of freezers in holiday apartments?

by Guest 05.01.10 13:33

marigold wrote:
vaguely wrote:
marigold wrote:
aliberte2 wrote:
marigold wrote:

In actual fact I have a few theories but one or two are too dark to put in print. I don't think it was an accident that occurred when Madeleine was alone. I think she was struck either by one of the Mccanns or one of their friends, hence the blood spray and the desperate cleaning of the apartment.I think she was buried on the beach or hidden in the church first but then moved and put into a freezer in a friends apartment in PDL, then again moved into the car to be finally buried elsewhere. The reason for the crime is where I think things get dark and sinister. I think they belong with others of their ilk to a 'ring' so they all protect each other and this ensures their silence. Also explains the protection from on high as some of the 'ring' are in elite postions. JMO.

Well, You Can Print the Theory about How Madeleine Died and the McCanns got Away With Getting Rid of the Body, Etc., Without Delving into the Lurid Theories Behind the Crime, which Have No evidence To Support Them of Any Kind, and Dr. Amaral Found no Support For -- The Gaspar Statements is Hardly Evidence of a Pedophile Ring Involving Married Females.

Yes but does any theory have any evidence to support it?

No. Which is probably why it's best to refrain from suggesting that the parents of a missing child are paedophiles. jmvho.

ITS A THEORY FGS

That someone will see on an internet forum and lo and behold, within weeks it will become "fact". never mind

by Guest 05.01.10 16:37

So far we've got Aliberte's theory, Marigold's (even if it's not based on the known evidence) and Sans'.

Can we do a poll about them?

by aliberte2 05.01.10 16:43

sans_souci wrote:

For example, Marigold, you mentioned something about Madeleines body being kept in a freezer before being disposed on in the car. Where is there any solid evidence of a freezer being used?

Suggesting that there is no possibility of abduction demands that Jane Tanners statement is ignored completely, and also that Amarals 'proof' that the front door could not have been used (lock not forced or broken and nobody was authorised to have a key) is accepted.

Definitely no Soild Proof. Only Dr. Amaral's Observation as Head of the Investigation that Some Kind of Material Leaked Out of The Wheel Well of the Scenic, as It was Being Driven to the Dogs, I Believe. And the Decomposition Process of an Open Corpse in a Hot Country Suggesting that Steps Would Have Been Taken to Ensure the Body Did Not Undergo Such a Process.

But Frankly, With What Has Come out About Amaral Lately, Plus the Obvious Mistakes Made in the Investigation, And the Fact, That I Cannot Wrap My Head Around, that Rather than Stay and Fight For His Job and Fight for Madeleine and Fight for His Reputation, Dr. Amaral Suddenly Retired and Wrote a Book... I am Not Married to the Material Leaking from the Scenic Theory. Unfortunately None of My Fellow Antis Have Seen Fit to Intellectually Consider How the McCanns Could have Done This, with the Exception of Marigold, and Even She did Not go Into Logistics. And that is What We Need - Logistics, not Another Rehashing of Acts of the McCanns that Supposedly Point to a Black Heart.

I Could See Simply Dumping a Body in the Wilds Where the Wild Dogs Are or in The Ocean Water. Although That Does Not Seem to Match the McCanns' Obvious Mourning and Distress.

I Don't Think Tanner is Lying or Deliberately Obfuscating. I Think She's Mistaken and I think She Does Believe the McCanns' Story and Believes she Saw That Man. But Eye Witness Accounts are Notoriously Unreliable, Especially as She Would Have Been Under a Great Deal of Stress and Anguish for Madeleine in the Hours After She Disappeared.

However, the Freezer Theory Being Considered Again, I Think it Was A Cooler, of the Kind Used in Tailgate Parties. They Must Be as Common in the Algrave as Dogs.

by Guest 05.01.10 18:43

aliberte2 wrote:
sans_souci wrote:

For example, Marigold, you mentioned something about Madeleines body being kept in a freezer before being disposed on in the car. Where is there any solid evidence of a freezer being used?

Suggesting that there is no possibility of abduction demands that Jane Tanners statement is ignored completely, and also that Amarals 'proof' that the front door could not have been used (lock not forced or broken and nobody was authorised to have a key) is accepted.

Definitely no Soild Proof. Only Dr. Amaral's Observation as Head of the Investigation that Some Kind of Material Leaked Out of The Wheel Well of the Scenic, as It was Being Driven to the Dogs, I Believe. And the Decomposition Process of an Open Corpse in a Hot Country Suggesting that Steps Would Have Been Taken to Ensure the Body Did Not Undergo Such a Process.

But Frankly, With What Has Come out About Amaral Lately, Plus the Obvious Mistakes Made in the Investigation, And the Fact, That I Cannot Wrap My Head Around, that Rather than Stay and Fight For His Job and Fight for Madeleine and Fight for His Reputation, Dr. Amaral Suddenly Retired and Wrote a Book... I am Not Married to the Material Leaking from the Scenic Theory. Unfortunately None of My Fellow Antis Have Seen Fit to Intellectually Consider How the McCanns Could have Done This, with the Exception of Marigold, and Even She did Not go Into Logistics. And that is What We Need - Logistics, not Another Rehashing of Acts of the McCanns that Supposedly Point to a Black Heart.

I Could See Simply Dumping a Body in the Wilds Where the Wild Dogs Are or in The Ocean Water. Although That Does Not Seem to Match the McCanns' Obvious Mourning and Distress.

I Don't Think Tanner is Lying or Deliberately Obfuscating. I Think She's Mistaken and I think She Does Believe the McCanns' Story and Believes she Saw That Man. But Eye Witness Accounts are Notoriously Unreliable, Especially as She Would Have Been Under a Great Deal of Stress and Anguish for Madeleine in the Hours After She Disappeared.

However, the Freezer Theory Being Considered Again, I Think it Was A Cooler, of the Kind Used in Tailgate Parties. They Must Be as Common in the Algrave as Dogs.

Erm No. What size cooler do you have? I'd have been lucky to fit a dead cat in mine,never mind a child !

by vaguely 05.01.10 18:46

Aliberte,

the material that leaked out of the boot - what did the forensic experts say it was?

by Guest 05.01.10 19:09

Doesn't matter what the Forensics said.
GA's seen it dripping from the boot and those policemen know what it is what they see.
Now if anybody could find that quote or interview in which he's explained it to the stupid public?

by Guest 05.01.10 19:13

How can anyone tell if spilled liquid was from a frozen corpse or just a normal spillage. I don't know why he said that,its so silly.

by vaguely 05.01.10 19:14

He wouldn't have known it was frozen unless it was tested, so obviously they said something.

What did they say about the main piece of evidence that he wrote about?

by vaguely 05.01.10 19:14

PearlB wrote:How can anyone tell if spilled liquid was from a frozen corpse or just a normal spillage. I don't know why he said that,its so silly.

Well forensics would probably have informed it was denatured.

Just can't find the report about the sample being sent to them.

by Guest 05.01.10 19:16

vaguely wrote:He wouldn't have known it was frozen unless it was tested, so obviously they said something.

What did they say about the main piece of evidence that he wrote about?

I have never seen anything in the Files relating to defrosted liquid.

by Old Nick 05.01.10 19:27

There is a secret file which contains all the damning evidence, are you not aware of this fact?

by Guest 05.01.10 19:29

Old Nick wrote:There is a secret file which contains all the damning evidence, are you not aware of this fact?

Aw No - Would that be the Amaral/PJ ones. Or the Leics. Police ones. I should remember,but I get confused.

by Guest 05.01.10 19:33

PearlB wrote:
vaguely wrote:He wouldn't have known it was frozen unless it was tested, so obviously they said something.

What did they say about the main piece of evidence that he wrote about?
I have never seen anything in the Files relating to defrosted liquid.

Hold on, slow down, Old Nick's been generous with his stock of Cava (no, it's all gone now, bottles in the trashcan).

Who's said something? What main piece of evidence?

by Perelli 05.01.10 19:48

PearlB wrote:
Old Nick wrote:There is a secret file which contains all the damning evidence, are you not aware of this fact?

Aw No - Would that be the Amaral/PJ ones. Or the Leics. Police ones. I should remember,but I get confused.

I thought it was the one Amaral has been sitting on all this time (not even the Prosecutor got to see it, it's that secret). All is going to be revealed at the libel hearing though, or so I gather.

by Guest 05.01.10 19:50

Perelli wrote:
PearlB wrote:
Old Nick wrote:There is a secret file which contains all the damning evidence, are you not aware of this fact?

Aw No - Would that be the Amaral/PJ ones. Or the Leics. Police ones. I should remember,but I get confused.

I thought it was the one Amaral has been sitting on all this time (not even the Prosecutor got to see it, it's that secret). All is going to be revealed at the libel hearing though, or so I gather.

Revealed again !! Like it was going to be in his Book? Or when he and his mates set up as private investigative team thing? Shucks, maybe he just can't read his own writing !

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