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Post by aiyoyo 01.04.11 8:34

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Post by Guest 01.04.11 10:57


Thank you aiyoyo thumbsup Same old story, How many times are they going to print this, with just a different headline. Front page .




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Post by ufercoffy 01.04.11 11:06

If the book will be the key to finding their daughter why did Kate wait for 4 years to write the damn thing?

Yes, April Fool's Day indeed. tease

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Post by ufercoffy 01.04.11 11:09

The McCanns have always claimed Madeleine was abducted by paedophiles yet they say this:

"They also hope “whoever may be with her is treating her with the love and respect she so deserves”.

Oh I see so that's what paedophiles do is it?

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Post by PeterMac 01.04.11 12:05

1 A Plea and a Warning are slightly different things.
2 It would surely be a disaster for the McCanns if Madeleine were actually returned BEFORE the book publication.
3 Do people in the USA routinely read the Express ? Because that is where she is supposed to be, isn't it ? Or perhaps the paperboy delivers English language newspapers to the Hellish Lair.

As you say, April 1st. Chocolate bunnies laying eggs and all that sort of thing.
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Post by aiyoyo 01.04.11 13:42

PeterMac wrote:1 A Plea and a Warning are slightly different things.
2 It would surely be a disaster for the McCanns if Madeleine were actually returned BEFORE the book publication.
3 Do people in the USA routinely read the Express ? Because that is where she is supposed to be, isn't it ? Or perhaps the paperboy delivers English language newspapers to the Hellish Lair.

As you say, April 1st. Chocolate bunnies laying eggs and all that sort of thing.

Read elsewhere that April 1st is liar day in Portugal - what irony.

Their case had been high profile for so long, now suddenly km expects people to turn the pages and follow her down memory lanes, yes memoir, and hopefully that will trigger memories leading to Maddie.

I wonder who she hopes will buy her book...her case had been so high profile beamed into global households who hasnt heard of it. Why do people suddenly need to buy her book now just to jog their memories. If people knew anything didnt the mccanns think they would have come forward by now.

4 years later using a book to jog memory - who's she kidding?
ufercoffy made a good point - why did km wait 4 years to do this for Maddie?
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Post by PeterMac 01.04.11 14:10

"ufercoffy made a good point - why did km wait 4 years to do this for Maddie?"
Because the money has only just started running out ?
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Post by Guest 01.04.11 14:17

PeterMac wrote:"ufercoffy made a good point - why did km wait 4 years to do this for Maddie?"
Because the money has only just started running out ?


Yes, and perhaps if written earlier, she wouldn't have had to rely on friends to jog her memory?
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Post by ufercoffy 01.04.11 15:29

PeterMac wrote:"ufercoffy made a good point - why did km wait 4 years to do this for Maddie?"
Because the money has only just started running out ?

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I think I love you PeterMac roses . I used to think I loved erm....Jo, Jason, Peter, MarthaB, Mike Gunnill but you are so much better than any freelance photojournalist could ever hope to be at picking away at the McCann's lies and deceit. Who needs an entrapment journalist working for Carter Ruck when we have our very own policeman who isn't fooled by these child neglectors who want to pay off their mortgage? clapping

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Post by aiyoyo 01.04.11 16:22

www.express.co.uk


Friday April 1,2011
By Lesley Perman-Kerr

THE constant gnawing pain of a lost child is something so destructive that one can only stand in awe of parents who find ways to survive a situation seemingly without end, waiting for some glimmer of hope.

They are always under a cloud of self-recrimination and intrusive thoughts of what might have been and what could be, if only...

Writing a book is a chance to take some control where often there seems nothing but helplessness.

It is a chance for Mrs McCann to say everything that she wants to say about the abduction and, most importantly, everything she wants to say to her daughter. By living their emotional roller coaster in the public eye in the hope that it might help bring Madeleine home, the McCanns have exposed themselves to a public scrutiny which has not always been kind. Now Mrs McCann has bravely stepped back into the arena hoping to touch the hearts of the kidnappers or perhaps even bring Maddie some comfort. And, of course, would that that could happen.

Kidnappers, particularly those who take children, do not march to the same tune as normal, decent people. They do not care that parents are distraught and that families are broken.

They do not care if they cause an innocent child immense fear and distress. If they did they wouldn’t do it. It’s as simple as that.

What might happen though is that someone on the periphery, maybe someone related to whoever took Maddie or with some connection to the kidnapper or their location, will read the book and as a result decide to come forward.

For while someone who is prepared to kidnap, in particular those who would take a child, will not care about the devastation they cause, it is entirely possible that someone on the periphery may be troubled enough finally to come forward.

There will be someone out there who knows something, even if the knowing is just an uneasy feeling or a sense something is not quite right.

Wish the mccanns would make up their mind! So it's kidnap now!

And, the book is her chance to say everything she wants to say to Maddie!
Like Maddie's captor is going to read it to her..verbatim.
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Post by *~Melody~* 01.04.11 18:24

aiyoyo wrote:Wish the mccanns would make up their mind! So it's kidnap now!

Isn't kidnap the same as abduction?
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Post by Guest 01.04.11 18:51

*~Melody~* wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:Wish the mccanns would make up their mind! So it's kidnap now!

Isn't kidnap the same as abduction?


I always thought that kidnapping usually involves a ransom and is for monetary gain, whereas abduction is someone taken away without consent and held, and this may be for many reasons. You even have ex spouses abducting their kids. Don't know what the law is though, if they are two different things.
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Post by PeterMac 01.04.11 19:18

"Kidnappers, particularly those who take children, do not march to the same tune as normal, decent people. They do not care that parents are distraught and that families are broken.
They do not care if they cause an innocent child immense fear and distress. If they did they wouldn’t do it. It’s as simple as that.
What might happen though is that someone on the periphery, maybe someone related to whoever took Maddie or with some connection to the kidnapper or their location, will read the book and as a result decide to come forward.
For while someone who is prepared to kidnap, in particular those who would take a child, will not care about the devastation they cause, it is entirely possible that someone on the periphery may be troubled enough finally to come forward.
There will be someone out there who knows something, even if the knowing is just an uneasy feeling or a sense something is not quite right."


Or possibly...
Child neglectors, particularly those who neglect children, do not march to the same tune as normal, decent people. They do not care that siblings are distraught and that families are broken.
They do not care if they cause an innocent child immense fear and distress. If they did they wouldn’t do it. It’s as simple as that.
What might happen though is that someone on the periphery, maybe someone related to whoever neglected Maddie or with some connection to the neglectors or their "Fund", will read the book and as a result decide to come forward.
For while someone who is prepared to neglect, in particular those who would neglect, and even cover up the death of a child, will not care about the devastation they cause, it is entirely possible that someone on the periphery may be troubled enough finally to come forward.
There will be someone out there who knows something, even if the knowing is just an uneasy feeling or a sense something is not quite right."

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Post by aiyoyo 02.04.11 7:04

*~Melody~* wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:Wish the mccanns would make up their mind! So it's kidnap now!

Isn't kidnap the same as abduction?

er er...NO! Kidnap has money as motive.

Was random demanded from the mccanns? NO.
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Post by aiyoyo 02.04.11 7:12

PeterMac wrote:"Kidnappers, particularly those who take children, do not march to the same tune as normal, decent people. They do not care that parents are distraught and that families are broken.
They do not care if they cause an innocent child immense fear and distress. If they did they wouldn’t do it. It’s as simple as that.
What might happen though is that someone on the periphery, maybe someone related to whoever took Maddie or with some connection to the kidnapper or their location, will read the book and as a result decide to come forward.
For while someone who is prepared to kidnap, in particular those who would take a child, will not care about the devastation they cause, it is entirely possible that someone on the periphery may be troubled enough finally to come forward.
There will be someone out there who knows something, even if the knowing is just an uneasy feeling or a sense something is not quite right."


Or possibly...
Child neglectors, particularly those who neglect children, do not march to the same tune as normal, decent people. They do not care that siblings are distraught and that families are broken.
They do not care if they cause an innocent child immense fear and distress. If they did they wouldn’t do it. It’s as simple as that.
What might happen though is that someone on the periphery, maybe someone related to whoever neglected Maddie or with some connection to the neglectors or their "Fund", will read the book and as a result decide to come forward.
For while someone who is prepared to neglect, in particular those who would neglect, and even cover up the death of a child, will not care about the devastation they cause, it is entirely possible that someone on the periphery may be troubled enough finally to come forward.
There will be someone out there who knows something, even if the knowing is just an uneasy feeling or a sense something is not quite right."

SomeONE out there ? Try someHUNDREDS

Apparently their plea is fallen on dead ears or there simply is NO ONE out there who knows something because those people who know differently are cocooned under the mccanns blanket and they are not capable of uneasy feeling or a sense something (their silence) is not right.

o/t

Has anyone seen the mc-petition?
I noted JT signed but didnt leave comment.
Fiona Payne did - she felt a full review from both sides is long overdue (something like that).

As for the rest of their tapas friend...they didnt sign if I am not wrong...because they didnt appear anywhere in the top pages and I cant be arsed to search through..the rest. But would have thought if they're truly mccanns friends and still are their signatures would appear on those top pages as that of CM BK...
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Post by aiyoyo 03.04.11 9:36

DAILY STAR SUNDAY

MCCANNS FACE QUIZ


MADELEINE McCann’s parents are set to be quizzed in court later this year in connection with their daughter’s disappearance.

Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leics, will face lawyers acting on behalf of the Portuguese detective who led the hunt for Madeleine.

They are suing former police chief Goncalo Amaral for more than £1million damages over claims he made about them.

Amaral, who believes Madeleine is dead, is due to call the McCanns in his bid to defend himself.

Last night the couple’s lawyer Isabel Duarte said she expects the libel trial to take place this year.

She said: “It could be June or July but most likely September. He can call them if there are things they can contribute (to his case).”

Madeleine went missing during a family holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007

Oh dear, expect tears in Rothley chamber. cream to the run story.
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Post by Mike 03.04.11 9:50

I hope Kate's book sells really well so that she'll have plenty of money to pay Dr Amaral for practically ruining his life and that of his wife and children when all he was doing was his job. Maybe Dr Amaral should wait a year or so to ensure the profits are good, just like the McCanns did with his book. But I doubt Dr Amaral is vindictive like the McCanns. I'm sure he would rather see them in a criminal court than a libel court.
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Post by Guest 03.04.11 11:43

An interesting few months ahead. It is good that the McCanns book is coming out before the trial. I'm sure Mr.Amaral's lawyers will scrutinise every word.

Surely, they can't possibly hope to win the libel trial, after the book ban was overturned, and then the McCann's appeal was turned down.
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Post by ufercoffy 03.04.11 12:01

Maybe that's the real reason Kate has a 'heavy heart', candyfloss winkwink

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Post by PeterMac 03.04.11 12:56

candyfloss wrote:An interesting few months ahead. It is good that the McCanns book is coming out before the trial. I'm sure Mr.Amaral's lawyers will scrutinise every word.
Surely, they can't possibly hope to win the libel trial, after the book ban was overturned, and then the McCann's appeal was turned down.
I really wonder if it will now come out.
Not only Mr Amaral's lawyers, but also the McCann's own Carter-Ruck, and Dewey Cheatum and Howe, the "Fund" lawyers, will be pouring over every syllable and comma. Not to mention the PJ, Leicester Police, the Tapas 7, Mitchell, Mark Warner, and everyone with an ounce of caring left for the fate of Madeleine.

I have a strange suspicion that the lies, sorry - the contradictions, between what anyone concerned has said about the book . . . .
- and remember we have had definitively
• from a close family member a long time ago saying it was finished,
• and then from the McCanns that Kate was still working on it,
• and then in the press that she was still writing it,
• but also in the press a day or so later that it HAD BEEN translated into several languages

. . indicate that it may never see the light of day.
There are only 26 working days left before the date of release.
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Post by aiyoyo 03.04.11 18:55

PeterMac wrote:
I really wonder if it will now come out.
Not only Mr Amaral's lawyers, but also the McCann's own Carter-Ruck, and Dewey Cheatum and Howe, the "Fund" lawyers, will be pouring over every syllable and comma. Not to mention the PJ, Leicester Police, the Tapas 7, Mitchell, Mark Warner, and everyone with an ounce of caring left for the fate of Madeleine.

I dont agree with you there. Surely, CM is among their close families and friends who got to read or help co-edit the book before even the draft was dispatched to publisher preview. If it got dispatched, which I am inclined to think so, because publisher usually like to sight draft if not of complete book then at least some chapters to gauge saleability possibility before deciding to take it or not.

I have a strange suspicion that the lies, sorry - the contradictions, between what anyone concerned has said about the book . . . .
- and remember we have had definitively
• from a close family member a long time ago saying it was finished,
• and then from the McCanns that Kate was still working on it,
• and then in the press that she was still writing it,
• but also in the press a day or so later that it HAD BEEN translated into several languages

All this yo-yo-ing back and forth between finished and still working on it could possibility mean, finished but not finalised as 'FINAL' version because km it had to be pepertually and constantly reviewed and revised according to the unfolding development of things. Like for example, book unbanned, advice to go easy on scatching Amaral and/or PJ, couldnt decide best to say she was taken, abducted or kidnapped, or maybe even revising on grammar, puntuaction, spelling, and anything else close friends and families may suggesgt at last minute.

And maybe also still working on it because she's trying to get it translated into as many languages as possible in case abductor doesnt read in any of the three languages they'd already planned being English, Spanish, or Portuguese. Now, that would be truly nightmarish for km because she wanted the abductor to read it and give back Maddie. And if the abductor couldnt read it, her plea would be furtile, not that it stands any hell of a chance to start with, even if the abductor's multi-lingual and very abled in those 3 languages.

She also wanted Maddie to read it and then 'feel what' no one has a clue. Surely she didnt expect Maddie to come home by herself, especially not after having learnt from the book her mum left her in the dark on foreign soil, didnt cooperate with police, didnt even bother to answer 48 simple questions, and waited not one not two not three but FOUR years later to write this book that she hoped will trigger people's conscience only to delay release further until after Royal Wedding. Just what Royal Wedding has got to do with the search for Maddie is an enigma.

Maddie probably no longer have memory of her parents. Besides at the rate mccanns PIs throw up periodically the gallavanting abductor Maddie could well be trained to speak and read in arabic or chinese or even timbuktu language. If the mccanns hadt realised they're making themselves look ridiculous with all these ludicrous dribbles and big dream on remarks they never will.

. . indicate that it may never see the light of day.
There are only 26 working days left before the date of release.

One thing is for sure, the hypothetical abductor wont be quacking in his boots. The blond who took 4 years to realise 'hey, I havent got Maddie back yet, maybe it's time to start looking for her and asking her captor to let her come home because mummy suddenly missed her...but something is not right...wait a minute...isnt there the royal wedding...oh what the heck....maybe I'll ask him later after the royal wedding is done and dusted. Maddie can wait another month or so after all she'd waiting 4 years now what's a few more weeks.

Oh rest assured the book will see the light of day. Already Amazon is having early stocks clearance - buy one get two other titles free. Genial.


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aiyoyo wrote:One thing is for sure, the hypothetical abductor wont be quacking in his boots.

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Post by ufercoffy 03.04.11 20:45

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:One thing is for sure, the hypothetical abductor wont be quacking in his boots.

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Post by aiyoyo 04.04.11 6:03

being a quack: a quack psychologist who complicates everyone's problems.


Sorry guys, I am thinking the hypothetical abductor is complicating issue for everyone hence 'the quack' - wrong? Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 2346296870 Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 359723
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Post by Jill Havern 04.04.11 13:28

aiyoyo wrote:
being a quack: a quack psychologist who complicates everyone's problems.


Sorry guys, I am thinking the hypothetical abductor is complicating issue for everyone hence 'the quack' - wrong? Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 2346296870 Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 359723

big grin ok, thought you meant quaking in their boots, rather than making duck impersonations! winkwink
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Does any know whether the mccann can refuse to attend their own instigating libel trial?
I would have thought not, otherwise Amaral will win by default isnt it?

Amaral will win anyway whether the mccann show up or not, except if they refused to show up it would deprive team Amaral the chance to ask to quiz them. At most they could refuse to answer questions which will likely be what's going to happen which wouldnt look good to the Judge.
Either way they're between a rock and v hard place.

I'm sure they are looking forward to attending and answering under oath. Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 181154 Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 181154 Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles 181154
Not attending can be contrued badly on them as how can they file those charges then refuse to stand their ground. On one of their charges ie depression, why werent they depressed after Maddie went missing, why 2-/12 years later post Amaral's book.
Besides if they are really depressed as they claimed how come they are out and about raising fund? How come km can function and still pen a book? Seems they're not depressed when it comes to money hey!
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Post by Angelique 07.04.11 2:06

I agree it's not going to be easy for the McCanns to prove that their health has been affected by GA's Book.

Kate said herself a fews days after Madeleine went missing that she was able to sleep through the night. So no issues with that then. If either of them were on medication they would have to show medical records of the fact - they are usually one step ahead of the game so have they really got proof - ie. medication/prescription records. It would have to have appropriate dates to correlate to when his Book was on sale. How are they going to separate the affect of the "abduction" as opposed to the affect of GA's Book. Or am I missing something ?

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Post by aiyoyo 07.04.11 3:21

If they've got medical certification for depression, what about the twins welfare?

Wonder which of the mccanns claimed they suffered depression - kate or gerry? Both seem to still function normally with gm still going to work and kate's writing a book.
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Post by Tony Bennett 07.04.11 17:30

Angelique wrote:I agree it's not going to be easy for the McCanns to prove that their health has been affected by GA's Book.

Kate said herself a few days after Madeleine went missing that she was able to sleep through the night. So no issues with that then...
Their health was very bad though. So bad that we thought the General Medical Council should be contacted to review the McCanns' 'fitness to practice'.

Here's an extract from our letter, in which we told the GMC exactly what the McCanns had claimed about their health when they served their writ on Goncalo Amaral back in early summer 2009:

The Madeleine Foundation

Combating child neglect

Website: www.madeleinefoundation.org.uk

Monday 13 July 2009

Chairman,
Fitness to Practise Committee,
General Medical Council,
St. James’s Buildings
79 Oxford Street
MANCHESTER
M1 6FQ.

Dear Sir/Madam

re: Fitness to Practise: Dr Gerald McCann and Dr Kate McCann (formerly Dr Kate Healy)

I write to bring to your attention a report about the above couple, both doctors, published in the Sunday People yesterday.

Dr Gerald McCann and Dr Kate McCann are the parents of Madeleine McCann, who was reported missing by her mother at around 10.00pm on Thursday 3 May 2007. The circumstances of her disappearance remain mysterious and as yet unsolved. They were made official suspects of involvement in their daughter’s disappearance in September 2007, a status that lasted until July 2008 when the Portuguese judicial authorities concluded that at that time there was insufficient evidence to charge them or anyone else with a crime against Madeleine.

Yesterday, the Sunday People published an article based on what they said was a 34-page libel writ served in Portugal against Goncalo Amaral. The McCanns and their advisers have already announced in the press that they intended to sue Mr Amaral for libel. Mr Amaral was the senior investigating officer in the case until he was removed from the investigation in controversial circumstances in October 2007. A month earlier, he was the man responsible for declaring the McCanns to be official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance.

The Sunday People says it has translated the libel writ from the Portuguese. The McCanns are claiming damages of £1 million from Mr Amaral. I wish to bring to your attention the medical and psychological condition of these two doctors, one of whom continues to practise, and both of whom we understand to be on the GMC Register.

The writ says of Dr Kate McCann that she is ‘deeply and seriously depressed”. The writ goes on to describe both of the McCanns as suffering from:

· permanent anxiety,
· insomnia,
· lack of appetite,
· irritability,
· indefinable fear.

In the writ, according to the Sunday People, the McCanns further describe both of themselves as:

· “totally destroyed”,
· “irreparably damaged”, and
· “totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view”.

The question that arises is whether either of these doctors is fit to practise or indeed to remain on the GMC Register, at least until these serious psychological problems, suggestive of mental illness, subside. We suggest that the appropriate committee of the GMC should consider (a) suspending them from the GMC until a psychiatrist deems that they have recovered from the above symptoms and (b) providing them with the expert psychiatric help and counselling that anyone exhibiting such severe symptoms should receive from the N.H.S. Presumably if the McCanns are exhibiting these symptoms there are reports available from their G.P. or a psychiatric specialist confirming those symptoms.

The other possibility of course, is that the McCanns are grossly exaggerating the extent of their depression or even lying about it, in order to make as much money as possible from Mr Amaral. If that were the case, there would definitely be a whole series of other questions about their fitness to remain in practice and remain on the GMC Register. Many videos and still images exist of the McCanns laughing and joking and appearing to be anything but severely depressed. That would suggest at least the possibility that they have deliberately exaggerated their sadness at and reaction to the loss of Madeleine in order to make as much money as possible from their proposed libel action...
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