Re: McQuiz of the Day: Who said this? Fact or Myth?

by **Silentscope** 23.01.22 18:15

9. Manuel Catarino from Correio da Mánha

In yet another attack on the British couple by the Portuguese media, "A culpa dos McCann" (The guilt of the McCanns) opens with the lines: "This story did not begin in the Ocean Club, but in London where the official truth was conspired and established: an English girl was kidnapped in the Algarve."
The author, Manuel Catarino, editorial chief of Correio da Manha then goes on to accuse Kate McCann of failing to report Madeleine's disappearance to Portuguese police, then pretending she had done so.
"Pamela Fenn offered herself immediately to call GNR (Portuguese police).
"Kate thanked her — but said it was not necessary because she'd already called them. Maddie's mother didn't say the truth.
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by **Jill Havern** 23.01.22 18:30

Silentscope wrote:9. Manuel Catarino from Correio da Mánha

In yet another attack on the British couple by the Portuguese media, "A culpa dos McCann" (The guilt of the McCanns) opens with the lines: "This story did not begin in the Ocean Club, but in London where the official truth was conspired and established: an English girl was kidnapped in the Algarve."
The author, Manuel Catarino, editorial chief of Correio da Manha then goes on to accuse Kate McCann of failing to report Madeleine's disappearance to Portuguese police, then pretending she had done so.
"Pamela Fenn offered herself immediately to call GNR (Portuguese police).
"Kate thanked her — but said it was not necessary because she'd already called them. Maddie's mother didn't say the truth.
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Eight correct answers now Mrs

by **Silentscope** 24.01.22 10:39

7. João Grade

Lawyer João Grade is quoted on Facebook as saying: “I read his book and I was convinced, as I had been before anyway, that it was not an abduction. The book does not defame the McCanns, Gonçalo Amaral does not express his opinion, but an investigative thesis.”

by **Jill Havern** 24.01.22 11:02

Silentscope wrote:7. João Grade

Lawyer João Grade is quoted on Facebook as saying: “I read his book and I was convinced, as I had been before anyway, that it was not an abduction. The book does not defame the McCanns, Gonçalo Amaral does not express his opinion, but an investigative thesis.”

Yes!

Just one more to go now....number 4.

by **Silentscope** 24.01.22 12:33

4. Beats me Jill, is that a Myth?
Or a translation from a foreign language source?

by Guest 24.01.22 17:32

was it the hairdresser of pamela fenn, the one from a short video with the chaplin bar story in it?

by **Jill Havern** 24.01.22 17:57

onehand wrote:was it the hairdresser of pamela fenn, the one from a short video with the chaplin bar story in it?

No, not the hairdresser...but she is - or was - a business owner.

It looks like this is a tricky one to answer, so this is her full quote:

“Kate passed by my door, laughing her head off, with a friend, days after her daughter disappeared. What mother has a child in an unknown location and feels like laughing? Looking back, I don’t even know how she managed to convince the people that her daughter had been stolen from her… Just compare her with Rui Pedro’s mother. I’m not going any further, because I’m a mother myself and I cannot imagine life for one minute, if I lost my daughter.”

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 10:40

No takers for the last ^^^ quote? Does everyone give up?

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 11:27

Stop the Myths forum don't like this thread

Cesspit having fun over a missing child.
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It's a shame they can't see that the 'fun' is rather about the people who are covering up the death of a missing child - other than Number 4, of course, who merely reported the laughing of the mother of the missing child days later.

by Doug D 25.01.22 11:51

It's easy when you cheat/google, but I must confess to having no recollection of her.

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 12:06

Doug D wrote:It's easy when you cheat/google, but I must confess to having no recollection of her.

OK, so who is it?

Then I can move on to the next set of quotes biggergrin

by Guest 25.01.22 12:18

well it gives something to consider for the next 10, don't you think.

and it would be much easier for us, the population there is so much smaller and it will give them at least some nice attention, they sounds as they could use some.

i think i know already what the answers are;

1, pedro, 2 pedro his left sock, 3 of course pedro, his christmas sock, i think it must be the right one.
4 pedro, his u know what i mean sock, 5 pedro, 6 pedro, hist right sock, 7 pedro, his old blue sock that is still in the dryer, 8 difficult, i still would go for pedro himself, 9 easy pedro his wool one,10 pedro his sockcover.

done!

by Doug D 25.01.22 12:49

In Praia da Luz, opinions about what happened to little Maddie that night are divided, but the vast majority believes that she died, and holds the parents responsible. Almost nobody rises to defend the McCanns. For Maria Bandeirinha, the owner of a rent a car business, the parents’ attitude is incriminating.

(Laughing quote follows)

Maria Bandeirinha says that she had photos of the little girl on her shop window, but she tore everything off when she stopped believing the McCanns’ innocence. “The other shop owners did the same. I’m increasingly on the side of Gonçalo Amaral. He knows the truth, and if he says that the little girl is dead, then she is. Kate and Gerry know it as well. Nobody believes this circus anymore.”

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 14:41

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by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 14:55

McQuiz number two:

1. "The article is full of defaming lies against my person, even including lies concerning my full name."

2. "Madeleine is a warm, life-enriching little person."

3. "Naturally it would be pretty hard to top Mr and Mrs McCann’s victory against Express Group."

4. “Anybody who has given money to help find Madeleine need have no fear that their money is being spent on lawyers fees or anything like that.”

5. "It's not bad for a bunch of amateurs."

6. "I looked around as if saying “did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?”

7. "I can assure you that at no time were statements withheld and not passed on."

8. "People aren't right 100 per cent of the time. Otherwise they wouldn't be human."

9. "Today, the only person prosecuted in the case of the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann is the officer who conducted the investigation."

10. "Still, there is no denying the quality of the liaison, with guidance, in the form of police manuals, later finding its way onto Gerry McCann's bedside cabinet."

by **Silentscope** 25.01.22 15:16

6. Dr Katharina Gaspar? From memory, not Google!

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 15:28

Silentscope wrote:6. Dr Katharina Gaspar? From memory, not Google!

Yes!

by Guest 25.01.22 15:34

no. 2 not signed message, probably kate or her ghostwriter.

it is the last sentence in a message to the public, titled 'about madeleine' on the find madeleine site.

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 15:41

onehand wrote:no. 2 not signed message, probably kate or her ghostwriter.

it is the last sentence in a message to the public, titled 'about madeleine' on the find madeleine site.

Yes.

by **sandancer** 25.01.22 16:38

No 5 - John McCann .

by Guest 25.01.22 17:39

the full text is a bit strange, maybe if you have not had heard a lot of people talk about madeleine, but its done like; chose, pick and fuse.

Madeleine was born in May 2003 - a long-awaited and very much longed for little girl. She lives in the village of Rothley in Leicester, with 1.> her mummy and daddy and little brother and sister, Sean and Amelie.<

2.Madeleine is a very happy little girl with an outgoing personality. She has always been a very popular little person, appealing to both children and adults alike with her funny and engaging chatter. She has many friends who obviously miss her dearly. Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before.
Like most girls her age, she likes dolls and dresses (and anything pink and sparkly) but with a definite taste for action-adventure too! She has an incredible amount of energy and even as a little baby, didn't seem to need much rest. She enjoys running and swimming and is an Everton fan like her mum and grandad.

3.Madeleine has always been a wonderfully loving and caring big sister to Sean and Amelie. It was certainly not the quietest house on the planet with lots of giggling, singing and the inevitable odd bit of mischief! For Sean and Amelie, there is without doubt, a very important person missing in their life.
Madeleine is a warm, life-enriching little person and will never fail we're sure, to bring joy into the life of anyone she may encounter.

1. is in that way used in their first press moment, and spoken by gerry.
2. is i think in the bewk madeleine.
3. is said also by kate's mother. i think in the 3 part video from the chilean tv??
and some smaller piece does sound as jon corner

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 18:17

sandancer wrote:No 5 - John McCann .

Yep!

by **sharonl** 25.01.22 21:21

7. Stuart Prior?

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 21:25

sharonl wrote:7. Stuart Prior?

Nope. Getting warm though.

by **Jill Havern** 25.01.22 21:33

Jill Havern wrote:McQuiz number two:

1. "The article is full of defaming lies against my person, even including lies concerning my full name."

2. "Madeleine is a warm, life-enriching little person." Kate McCann or ghostwriter on Find Madeleine site

3. "Naturally it would be pretty hard to top Mr and Mrs McCann’s victory against Express Group."

4. “Anybody who has given money to help find Madeleine need have no fear that their money is being spent on lawyers fees or anything like that.”

5. "It's not bad for a bunch of amateurs." John McCann

6. "I looked around as if saying “did anyone else hear this, or was it just me?” Dr Katarina Gaspar

7. "I can assure you that at no time were statements withheld and not passed on."

8. "People aren't right 100 per cent of the time. Otherwise they wouldn't be human."

9. "Today, the only person prosecuted in the case of the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann is the officer who conducted the investigation."

10. "Still, there is no denying the quality of the liaison, with guidance, in the form of police manuals, later finding its way onto Gerry McCann's bedside cabinet."

Correct answers so far.

by **sharonl** 25.01.22 21:58

Jill Havern wrote:
sharonl wrote:7. Stuart Prior?
Nope. Getting warm though.

Matt Baggot?

by **sandancer** 25.01.22 22:04

No 7- Bob Small ?

by **sharonl** 25.01.22 22:10

sandancer wrote:No 7- Bob Small ?

or Chris Eyre?

by **Jill Havern** 26.01.22 5:52

sharonl wrote:
sandancer wrote:No 7- Bob Small ?

or Chris Eyre?

Yes, that's correct.

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Sunday Express, Sunday November 08, 2009, paper edition only

The head of Leicestershire Police has rejected claims from a former Portuguese detective that his officers withheld a witness statement from the Madeleine McCann inquiry.

Chris Eyre, the Temporary Chief Constable, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], said "I can assure you that at no time were statements withheld and not passed on."

Goncalo Amaral, the Algarve detective who was removed the inquiry early on, made his claim in a book, which is now banned.

Mr Eyre responded after Freedom of Information requests were submitted by the Sunday Express.

A team of Leicestershire family liason officers went to Portugal on May 5 2007 to support the McCanns.

It has also emerged that the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] so as not to damage relations between Britain and Portugal.

An individual submitted Freedom of Information requests to get details of negotiations by John Buck, Britain's former ambassador to Portugal.

The then Information Commissioner Richard Thomas refused in case it caused Portugal to lose trust in Britain's discretion.
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Excerpt from The Truth of the Lie: Chapter 9

This witness statement from the couple, S.G. and K.G., is taken by the English police on May 16th, thirteen days after Madeleine's disappearance. That information, very important for the progress of the investigation, was never sent to the Portuguese police. When the Portuguese investigators learn about similar events that allegedly took place during a holiday in Greece - without, however, obtaining reliable witness statements -, they tell the English police, who, even at this point, refrain from revealing what they know on the subject.

It will only be after my removal from the investigation, in October 2007, that this statement will finally be sent to the Portuguese police. Why did the British keep it secret for more than six months? It is all the more surprising that David Payne, who had planned the trip to Majorca - of whom it was known that his behaviour towards the children was, to say the least, questionable -, is the same person who organised the holiday in Portugal, that he is one of those closest to Madeleine and that he is the first friend of the family to have been seen with Kate McCann just after the disappearance (we will talk further about this). He was still present in Vila da Luz when the English police received that witness statement: why wasn't he interviewed immediately? Without doubt, the Portuguese police could have made progress with the investigation thanks to that lead: such behaviour would merit close attention. Were we looking in the right direction? Might we have established a link with the events of May 3rd? It is difficult to seriously doubt these witnesses.