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Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
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Scotland Yard is still treating Madeleine McCann as a missing person, the Met Commissioner has said, despite the belief of German prosecutors that she is dead.
Dame Cressida Dick said the force was working with German investigators but had not seen all of their evidence.
Madeleine disappeared in 2007 aged three on holiday in Portugal.
Prosecutors previously said they have evidence a German child sex offender named as Christian B killed her.
But although Christian B, 43, was identified as a suspect in June, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said the evidence is not strong enough to charge him.
Suspects' surnames are not usually revealed in Germany for privacy reasons.
Who is the German suspect?
The Madeleine McCann case: A timeline
Dame Cressida said that the Met's position had not changed since the summer, when the force said its investigation - Operation Grange - remained a missing person inquiry as there is no "definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead".
She said a small team of Met Police investigators continued to work "very closely" with police in Germany and Portugal.
"We will continue until the time that it is right, either because much more light has been thrown on this or somebody has been brought to justice," she said.
"Or if we feel we have exhausted all possible opportunities. We're not at any of those stages at the moment, and the team continues."
Despite the close co-operation, she said she did not expect "every single piece of material to be shared with us".
"I'm sure they're sharing the relevant things at the relevant times with us," Dame Cressida said.
Christian B is currently serving a prison sentence for drug offences in Germany and lost an appeal last month against a further seven-year sentence for rape.
He attacked a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in Portugal in 2005, the same area where Madeleine disappeared about 18 months later.
Police believe he was regularly living in this part of Portugal between 1997 and 2007, staying in a camper van at the time he is suspected of abducting Madeleine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55181357
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is always the time to bring families and friends together with a a good old Dickensian drama.
My favourite is The Pickwick Papers but I guess A Christmas Carol is more appropriate at this festive time of year.
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Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
2 hours ago
Scotland Yard is still treating Madeleine McCann as a missing person, the Met Commissioner has said, despite the belief of German prosecutors that she is dead.
Dame Cressida Dick said the force was working with German investigators but had not seen all of their evidence.
Madeleine disappeared in 2007 aged three on holiday in Portugal.
Prosecutors previously said they have evidence a German child sex offender named as Christian B killed her.
But although Christian B, 43, was identified as a suspect in June, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said the evidence is not strong enough to charge him.
Suspects' surnames are not usually revealed in Germany for privacy reasons.
Who is the German suspect?
The Madeleine McCann case: A timeline
Dame Cressida said that the Met's position had not changed since the summer, when the force said its investigation - Operation Grange - remained a missing person inquiry as there is no "definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead".
She said a small team of Met Police investigators continued to work "very closely" with police in Germany and Portugal.
"We will continue until the time that it is right, either because much more light has been thrown on this or somebody has been brought to justice," she said.
"Or if we feel we have exhausted all possible opportunities. We're not at any of those stages at the moment, and the team continues."
Despite the close co-operation, she said she did not expect "every single piece of material to be shared with us".
"I'm sure they're sharing the relevant things at the relevant times with us," Dame Cressida said.
Christian B is currently serving a prison sentence for drug offences in Germany and lost an appeal last month against a further seven-year sentence for rape.
He attacked a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in Portugal in 2005, the same area where Madeleine disappeared about 18 months later.
Police believe he was regularly living in this part of Portugal between 1997 and 2007, staying in a camper van at the time he is suspected of abducting Madeleine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55181357
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is always the time to bring families and friends together with a a good old Dickensian drama.
My favourite is The Pickwick Papers but I guess A Christmas Carol is more appropriate at this festive time of year.
Humbug!
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Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
Scotland Yard WON'T end Madeleine McCann investigation despite German authorities' belief that missing girl was murdered
Cressida Dick said force is working 'really, really closely' with German authorities
But she said Met Police don't expect German counterparts to share all evidence
German prosecutor said he has 'concrete evidence' Brueckner, 43, killed her
By Jemma Carr For Mailonline
Published: 17:53 GMT, 3 December 2020 | Updated: 17:57 GMT, 3 December 2020
Scotland Yard has no plans to end its Madeleine McCann missing person investigation, despite German prosecutors believing she was murdered.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick said the force is working 'really, really closely' with the German authorities - but did not expect them to share all of their evidence.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters - who is leading the McCann investigation in Germany - has previously said he has 'concrete evidence' Christian Brueckner, 43, killed her.
But Dame Cressida said the force's 'small team' will continue considering Madeleine missing until 'someone has been brought to justice' or if 'all possible opportunities' have been exhausted.
German investigators believe convicted child sex offender Brueckner murdered Madeleine, then three, after abducting her from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007.
Brueckner - referred to as Christian B in Germany due to the country's strict privacy laws - was identified as a suspect in June, but prosecutors do not have enough evidence to charge him.
At the time, the Met said its active investigation into the little girl's disappearance, Operation Grange, is a missing person inquiry as there is no 'definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead'.
Dame Cressida told reporters on Thursday, the nature of the investigation has not changed.
She said: 'We're continuing to work very closely with our colleagues in the BKA (Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office) in Germany, as you know, and the PJ (Policia Judiciaria) in Portugal.
'We do have our small team still working on that and there's no significant change for us in terms of our resourcing or posture.
'As you know, we have some funding to continue that and we are continuing it.
'We will continue until the time that it is right, either because much more light has been thrown on this and, or, somebody has been brought to justice. Or, if we feel we have exhausted all possible opportunities.
'We're not at any of those stages at the moment, and the team continues.'
Christian Brueckner is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007
Asked whether the German authorities had shared everything with the Met, she added: 'So, we're working really closely with the German authorities. I would not expect necessarily every single piece of material to be shared with us. I'm sure they're sharing the relevant things at the relevant times with us.
'We are working really, really closely with them.'
Brueckner is currently serving a prison sentence for drug trafficking and is expected to remain behind bars until 2026 after losing a bid to overturn a rape conviction.
He was last year found guilty of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in the same Portuguese resort from which Madeleine vanished and sentenced to seven years in jail, at a court in Brunswick, Lower Saxony.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9015365/Scotland-Yard-WONT-end-Madeleine-McCann-investigation.html
Cressida Dick said force is working 'really, really closely' with German authorities
But she said Met Police don't expect German counterparts to share all evidence
German prosecutor said he has 'concrete evidence' Brueckner, 43, killed her
By Jemma Carr For Mailonline
Published: 17:53 GMT, 3 December 2020 | Updated: 17:57 GMT, 3 December 2020
Scotland Yard has no plans to end its Madeleine McCann missing person investigation, despite German prosecutors believing she was murdered.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick said the force is working 'really, really closely' with the German authorities - but did not expect them to share all of their evidence.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters - who is leading the McCann investigation in Germany - has previously said he has 'concrete evidence' Christian Brueckner, 43, killed her.
But Dame Cressida said the force's 'small team' will continue considering Madeleine missing until 'someone has been brought to justice' or if 'all possible opportunities' have been exhausted.
German investigators believe convicted child sex offender Brueckner murdered Madeleine, then three, after abducting her from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007.
Brueckner - referred to as Christian B in Germany due to the country's strict privacy laws - was identified as a suspect in June, but prosecutors do not have enough evidence to charge him.
At the time, the Met said its active investigation into the little girl's disappearance, Operation Grange, is a missing person inquiry as there is no 'definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead'.
Dame Cressida told reporters on Thursday, the nature of the investigation has not changed.
She said: 'We're continuing to work very closely with our colleagues in the BKA (Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office) in Germany, as you know, and the PJ (Policia Judiciaria) in Portugal.
'We do have our small team still working on that and there's no significant change for us in terms of our resourcing or posture.
'As you know, we have some funding to continue that and we are continuing it.
'We will continue until the time that it is right, either because much more light has been thrown on this and, or, somebody has been brought to justice. Or, if we feel we have exhausted all possible opportunities.
'We're not at any of those stages at the moment, and the team continues.'
Christian Brueckner is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007
Asked whether the German authorities had shared everything with the Met, she added: 'So, we're working really closely with the German authorities. I would not expect necessarily every single piece of material to be shared with us. I'm sure they're sharing the relevant things at the relevant times with us.
'We are working really, really closely with them.'
Brueckner is currently serving a prison sentence for drug trafficking and is expected to remain behind bars until 2026 after losing a bid to overturn a rape conviction.
He was last year found guilty of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in the same Portuguese resort from which Madeleine vanished and sentenced to seven years in jail, at a court in Brunswick, Lower Saxony.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9015365/Scotland-Yard-WONT-end-Madeleine-McCann-investigation.html
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Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
A member here said in an email to me yesterday
"From the moment Tony Blair's Head of Public Relations had been appointed to 'manage' the case I knew that she had died and there was a cover-up"
Sound thinking.
"From the moment Tony Blair's Head of Public Relations had been appointed to 'manage' the case I knew that she had died and there was a cover-up"
Sound thinking.
Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
And despite a few changes of administration since Blair's day, it's still rocking and rolling to this very day.
Proof enough in itself that there is an inpenetrable barrier and cover-up. The truth will never be known - or should I say acknowledged.
Proof enough in itself that there is an inpenetrable barrier and cover-up. The truth will never be known - or should I say acknowledged.
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Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
Madeleine McCann case is still a 'missing person' investigation, Met chief insists
The German police have said they have got evidence Madeleine was murdered but the evidence has not been shared with Scotland Yard
By Martin Evans, CRIME CORRESPONDENT 3 December 2020 • 7:13pm
Scotland Yard is still treating the Madeleine McCann inquiry as a missing person investigation despite German police claiming to have evidence that she was murdered, the Met Commissioner has said.
Dame Cressida Dick confirmed there was still a small team of detectives working on the case and said they would continue to do so while funding was available or until someone was brought to justice.
Madeleine disappeared from her family’s holiday apartment in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.
In June German police identified convicted sex attacker Christian Brueckner, as the prime suspect in her murder, but said they did not have enough evidence to charge him. He has denied any involvement.
In the summer Scotland Yard said they had not seen any definite evidence to confirm whether Madeleine was dead or alive.
Dame Cressida has said there had been no change to that “posture” and it remained a missing person invstigation.
Asked if the authorities in Berlin had shared all its intelligence with Scotland Yard, she said: “ I would not expect necessarily, every single piece of material to be shared with us. I'm sure they're sharing the relevant things at the relevant times with us. We are working really, really closely with them.”
She added: “We do have our small team still working on that and there is no significant change for us in terms of our resourcing or posture.
“As you know, we have some funding to continue that and we are continuing it. We will continue until the time that it is right, either because much more light has been thrown on this and, or, somebody has been brought to justice. Or, if we feel we have exhausted all possible opportunities.
"We're not any of those stages at the moment, and the team continues.”
Brueckner is currently serving a prison sentence for the rape of an American woman in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine disappeared.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/03/madeleine-mccann-case-still-missing-person-investigation-met/
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Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
Verdi wrote:
Madeleine McCann case is still a 'missing person' investigation, Met chief insists
The German police have said they have got evidence Madeleine was murdered but the evidence has not been shared with Scotland Yard
By Martin Evans, CRIME CORRESPONDENT 3 December 2020 • 7:13pm
Scotland Yard is still treating the Madeleine McCann inquiry as a missing person investigation despite German police claiming to have evidence that she was murdered, the Met Commissioner has said.
Dame Cressida Dick confirmed there was still a small team of detectives working on the case and said they would continue to do so while funding was available or until someone was brought to justice.
Madeleine disappeared from her family’s holiday apartment in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.
In June German police identified convicted sex attacker Christian Brueckner, as the prime suspect in her murder, but said they did not have enough evidence to charge him. He has denied any involvement.
In the summer Scotland Yard said they had not seen any definite evidence to confirm whether Madeleine was dead or alive.
Dame Cressida has said there had been no change to that “posture” and it remained a missing person invstigation.
Asked if the authorities in Berlin had shared all its intelligence with Scotland Yard, she said: “ I would not expect necessarily, every single piece of material to be shared with us. I'm sure they're sharing the relevant things at the relevant times with us. We are working really, really closely with them.”
She added: “We do have our small team still working on that and there is no significant change for us in terms of our resourcing or posture.
“As you know, we have some funding to continue that and we are continuing it. We will continue until the time that it is right, either because much more light has been thrown on this and, or, somebody has been brought to justice. Or, if we feel we have exhausted all possible opportunities.
"We're not any of those stages at the moment, and the team continues.”
Brueckner is currently serving a prison sentence for the rape of an American woman in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine disappeared.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/03/madeleine-mccann-case-still-missing-person-investigation-met/
What a load of nonsense from a bunch of clowns. Two police forces working together, yet one say that Madeleine is dead whilst the other isn't sure. Why hasn't Bruckner even been questioned yet? Why isn't all the information shared between the two investigations? Surely they are both working towards the same goal, to find
Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
Any Reward money for information leading to the Arrest or Conviction of any criminal in Germany CANNOT be collected by anyone employed in Law enforcement.
You cannot be “Rewarded” for doing your job!
So I do not think in that respect there is any “competition.”
I doubt if the other Police forces have it any different?
You cannot be “Rewarded” for doing your job!
So I do not think in that respect there is any “competition.”
I doubt if the other Police forces have it any different?
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Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
Silentscope wrote:Any Reward money for information leading to the Arrest or Conviction of any criminal in Germany CANNOT be collected by anyone employed in Law enforcement.
You cannot be “Rewarded” for doing your job!
So I do not think in that respect there is any “competition.”
I doubt if the other Police forces have it any different?
I agree 100% but if any police officer is going to stoop to the level of framing a patsy there has to be something in it for him? Rebekah Brooks is known to have given met police officers bribes for inside information in other cases and this one stinks of corruption.
Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
I don't understand why, after so many years have passed, a suitable patsy has not been found. With all of the tricks at their disposal, whichever agencies are involved should have been able to invent, or resurrect, somebody. Not necessarily a man. Perhaps I'm a bit simple.
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Re: Madeleine McCann still a missing person case - Dame Cressida Dick
It does make you wonder ^^^ doesn't it?
In the beginning I'm convinced the circus was performed to ensure the prime suspects were never brought before a court of law.
The stumbling block for the circus was however the release of the PJ files into the public domain. That event completely turned team McCanns act upside down. The enormous pressure to maintain their innocence and more importantly, their freedom, led to a change of direction - seemingly to create so many tentacles, the public didn't know what to believe.
Just as the authorities are now doing with the coronavirus.
There can be little or no doubt why Scotland Yard was assigned to 'take-over' in May 2011 but why they are prolonging the agony I can't explain.
Donations have dried-up, no one in their right mind would now sponsor the questionable Find Madeleine Co. Ltd. Support has dried-up, aside from the die-hard little team that roams cyberspace 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The Portuguese police have done all they can - it's all in the files. Operation Grange has been reduced from a mighty force of 40, down to 3 or 4 manning the telephones, emptying the wastepaper bins, sweeping the floor and cleaning the toilets.
Maybe it's only an act of defiance - to show us Lilliputians who's boss? To put the trolls in their place by trying to quell opposing commentary, like CMOMM .
It doesn't cost them anything in real time. All they need do is make the occasional announcement, as Dame Dick has in this ^^^ report, to make us believe there is evidence enough to continue the quasi-legal UK investigation.
Still, in the words of Abraham Lincoln .... 'You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time'
I've got news for them, we can be just as stubborn - all the time they are there, we will be close behind, not even a broomstick away!
Onwards and upwards!
In the beginning I'm convinced the circus was performed to ensure the prime suspects were never brought before a court of law.
The stumbling block for the circus was however the release of the PJ files into the public domain. That event completely turned team McCanns act upside down. The enormous pressure to maintain their innocence and more importantly, their freedom, led to a change of direction - seemingly to create so many tentacles, the public didn't know what to believe.
Just as the authorities are now doing with the coronavirus.
There can be little or no doubt why Scotland Yard was assigned to 'take-over' in May 2011 but why they are prolonging the agony I can't explain.
Donations have dried-up, no one in their right mind would now sponsor the questionable Find Madeleine Co. Ltd. Support has dried-up, aside from the die-hard little team that roams cyberspace 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The Portuguese police have done all they can - it's all in the files. Operation Grange has been reduced from a mighty force of 40, down to 3 or 4 manning the telephones, emptying the wastepaper bins, sweeping the floor and cleaning the toilets.
Maybe it's only an act of defiance - to show us Lilliputians who's boss? To put the trolls in their place by trying to quell opposing commentary, like CMOMM .
It doesn't cost them anything in real time. All they need do is make the occasional announcement, as Dame Dick has in this ^^^ report, to make us believe there is evidence enough to continue the quasi-legal UK investigation.
Still, in the words of Abraham Lincoln .... 'You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time'
I've got news for them, we can be just as stubborn - all the time they are there, we will be close behind, not even a broomstick away!
Onwards and upwards!
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