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Post by Verdi 12.04.21 14:37

turnermia wrote:how close to life is the Netflix adaptation?

Good afternoon turnermia howdy and welcome .

Not quite sure what you mean. Are you asking if the Netflix documentary is true to the circumstances relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

If so, then the answer is no, and that's an emphatic no! It's fabrication from beginning to end.

If you don't believe me just watch.

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Post by ShiningInLuz 13.04.21 12:14

Verdi wrote:In the Netflix production, Jon Clarke of the Olive Press said he received a phone call from the Daily Mail, very early Friday morning - about 7 or 7:30, asking him to rush down to Praia da Luz to report on a child who'd gone missing.  He knew little else but off he went.  During his journey he said he also received calls from the Mirror and the Sun (I think!).

I thought this rather strange as Lori Campbell, reporter for the Mirror, was sent to Praia da Luz to cover the story.

Note:  Lori Campbell is the person who raised suspicions about the behaviour of Robert Murat leading to his being made arguido.

I presume Jon Clarke would be paid for any story forthcoming, in addition to their regular reporters.  So why would they ask him to go to Portugal, knowing their own reporters were en-route?

I was looking for a credible source ( titter ) to confirm Lori Campbell's time of arrival, when I came across this little gem [acknowledgement pamalam at gerrymccannsblog]..

The net's closing in Sunday Mirror (paper edition)

Search for missing Maddy


• Police in hunt for a man acting strangely at complex
• Dad: I'm sure she'll be at 4th birthday next week

Lori Campbell Kate Mansey and Jon Clarke in the Algarve Portugal
6 May 2007


Detectives were last night closing in on a man they suspect of snatching little Maddy McCann from her holiday apartment.

They said they believed she was being held within three miles of the complex where she had been staying at Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve.

Guilhermino Encarnacao, chief of police in the region, said he had an artist's impression of the abductor but he feared that releasing it may put the three-year-old's life in danger.

He said he believed that Maddy had been taken by a sex offender, but there was also a possibility she had been kidnapped for a ransom - Maddy's parents are both doctors, her father a highly-paid heart specialist.

Mr Encarnacao said: "We have a prime suspect. A man has been seen acting strangely and we have a sketch, but we are not releasing it yet. We do not want to put the girl at risk.

"We believe the girl is still in Portugal, and probably nearby. I cannot rule out it was a paedophile who took her."

Police raised the hope that Maddy could be found as her anguished parents spent a second night waiting for news of their daughter.

Gerry and Kate McCann, both 38, of Rothley, Leics, are staying two doors down from the apartment that Maddy was taken from between 9pm and 10pm on Thursday.

Yesterday Gerry went into the apartment and emerged carrying a suitcase and a bucket and spade for younger twins Amelie and Sean, two.

The couple were later seen walking between apartment blocks in the resort with the twins, accompanied by friends.

They are being comforted by family and specially-trained officers from Leicestershire who have flown to Portugal.

One senior Portuguese detective told the Sunday Mirror yesterday: "We know of two or three local paedophiles living between Lagos and Praia da Luz. We have their names and addresses. We also have a list of English and German sex offenders living in the area from Interpol. We are following up every lead."

Yesterday Maddy's heartbroken grandmother told how the family were clinging to the hope she will be able to attend her fourth birthday party on Saturday.

Susan Healy told the Sunday Mirror: "We were looking forward to seeing her next weekend and giving her her presents, but this is just so awful.

"Her father is adamant that she will be found."

Relatives have made her a special Dr Who cake in honour of her favourite programme. Maddy had been asleep on a bed next to her brother Sean when she was snatched.

Her parents had been eating dinner at a restaurant in the Ocean Club resort 100 yards from the apartment.

They had been taking turns to check on the children every half hour as they slept. But a frantic search was launched when Kate went back to the apartment at 9.45pm and found Maddy gone.

More than 100 locals and holiday makers took part in the hunt.

Hotel workers from the Mark Warner Holiday complex held hands in a line and combed the beach while others scoured the resort and nearby roads.

A police source said they had been studying CCTV footage in petrol stations and on motorways near the resort.

There were also reports from expats that a young girl was seen walking down a road with a couple.

Last night 150 extra officers were drafted in to help with the search, as well as people from the Red Cross, Maritime Police and firemen.

It is thought someone had been spying on the apartment and broken in by forcing the shutters on the patio doors and entering the apartment when he knew the adults had gone.

The ground-floor apartment was on the edge of a public road so Maddy's abductor would have been able to make a quick getaway.

Yesterday family and friends flew in to the popular holiday resort from Liverpool, Glasgow and Canada to comfort Maddy's parents.

Looking tired and distraught, her mum Kate clasped her husband's hand as they walked out of the apartment with their twins between them to collect their belongings.

Last night the little girl's great uncle, Brian Kennedy, said: "We fear the worst, but we are hoping for the best."

Mr Kennedy insisted that the couple had acted responsibly when they left the children in the room while they had dinner at the restaurant. He said: "The children were left only in the sense that when you put your children to bed, you don't stay in the room all night.

"Madeleine is a lovely little girl, an intelligent, bright child. As parents, they are absolutely devoted to their children. You won't find more caring parents anywhere."

The seven other adults, who had been on holiday with the McCann family, left yesterday as planned, leaving the parents free to spend time with worried relatives.

Meanwhile, questions were being raised on how secure the apartments were. There was also criticism of how quickly the police reacted to Maddy's disappearance.

Paula Jones, 34, who manages the apartments where the McCann family were staying said the properties were a hot spot for burglaries. She said: "We have a real problem with break-ins at the apartments because lots of holiday makers don't double lock the patio doors.

"Burglars wait and watch the apartments so they know who is coming and going and they strike when tourists are out at the beach or in the restaurants."
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Hot on the case?

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Once again many thanks Verdi.

I have never seen this article before, and it is extremely interesting as it gives some insight into the very early stages of the PJ investigation.

2 or 3 sex paedos in a radius of 3 miles from Luz may or may not include Christian B, as at that time he was guilty in Portugal only of diesel theft.  Even though he owned up to a sex crime to a court in Portugal, he did not explain that crime was a paedo crime.  I doubt he was on the Portuguese radar 3 days after Maddie disappeared.

I have no idea whether Interpol, with information from Germany, passed on such a tip to to the PJ in their file.

The article is strongly suggestive, IMO, that at this time the PJ were focussing on anything EXCEPT the McCanns.  That may be a whoopsie that has come back to haunt 3 police forces.
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Post by Verdi 13.04.21 14:28

ShiningInLuz wrote:The article is strongly suggestive, IMO, that at this time the PJ were focussing on anything EXCEPT the McCanns. That may be a whoopsie that has come back to haunt 3 police forces.

I think it more a matter of looking at all angles, keeping an open mind to all possibilities - no matter how improbable. Routine policing. with the exception perhaps of the Metropolitan police under the guise of Operation Grange, who seemed to believe abduction was/is the only possibility.

The GNR and PJ were stark naked, so to speak, when first they were called to the crime scene. There they were told a a three year old child had disappeared from her bed in the apartment occupied by the family - that was the only lead at that juncture.

So the investigation commenced.

It was only a matter of hours before the PJ detected chinks in the information they were first fed by the McCanns and their group of friends/acquaintances. The strong emphasis of the groups story line was abduction most probably by a paedophile or organised child trafficking.

Still they, the PJ, can't dismiss instantly, or indeed ever, dismiss all other possibilities but parental involvement. That would be very unprofessional.

By fair means or foul, the UK media were quick to pick-up on the abducted by paedophile scenario.

The rest, as they say, is history.

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Post by Verdi 07.08.21 16:29

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'WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED' Madeleine McCann ALIVE after being abducted by traffickers, Netflix documentary claims


Top child protection cop Jim Gamble insists the 12-year-old mystery of missing Maddie will be solved in new Netflix documentary The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Rod McPhee

17:20, 14 Mar 2019Updated: 17:52, 15 Mar 2019

MISSING Madeleine McCann is still alive, a sensational new Netflix documentary has claimed.

It suggests that people traffickers abducted the three-year-old in Portugal in 2007 - as a top child protection cop insists the 12-year mystery will be solved.

The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann features 40 experts and key figures in the case, some of whom argue she was taken to another foreign country.

Jim Gamble, the top child protection cop in the UK’s first Maddie investigation, says: “I absolutely believe that in my lifetime we will find out what has happened to Madeleine McCann.

“There’s huge hope to be had with the advances in technology. Year on year DNA is getting better. Year on year other techniques, including facial recognition, are getting better.

“And as we use that technology to revisit and review that which we captured in the past, there’s every likelihood that something we already know will slip into position.”
WE'LL SOLVE MADDIE MYSTERY

The documentary - released tomorrow - also claims pretty Madeleine is likely to have been kept alive by child traffickers because, as a middle-class British girl, she would be more financially valuable.

Julian Peribanez, the private investigator hired by the McCanns, explains: “They usually go for lower-class kids from third world countries — that’s the main supplier of these gangs.

“The value that Madeleine had was really high because if they took her it’s because they were going to get a lot of money.”

Large sections of the eight-part series - which could see Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann sue an ex-Portuguese cop taking part - are devoted to exploring the human trafficking explanation, which regularly involves the supply of a child to desperate wannabe parents or sickening paedophiles.

The theory that she was taken by child-abusers was briefly considered when Maddie disappeared from her family’s apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal, on the evening of May 3, 2007.

She was left sleeping with her two siblings as Gerry and Kate dined in a restaurant within the Ocean Club resort where they were staying.

But the abduction line of enquiry wasn’t prioritised by bungling Portuguese cops - who instead devoted their time to trying to pin the blame on Gerry and Kate.

This detracted from the fact that the internet was increasingly normalising paedophilia, expanding their networks and fuelling the demand for child-snatching.

Mr Gamble adds in the show: “There is no doubt that human trafficking is a massive problem.

“On the internet you can go into those dark places and say, ‘This is who I am and this is what I do’. And you’re made to feel better about who you are because there’s so many others.”

The documentary explains how Portugal is also the perfect location for child traffickers because it’s a well-placed gateway allowing abducted children to be instantly taken overseas by boat or driven across Europe.

But there was is also fresh optimism from child abduction experts, including Ernie Allen, head of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in the US.
COP'S PLEDGE

He helped the McCanns in their search by creating an aged image of Maddie, who would now be 15-years-old, and tells how he has assisted in returning many other abducted youngsters to their families in similar circumstances.

In the documentary Ernie says: “There are many, many cases we can point to in which children have been found, have come home alive, after months, after years.

“There have been cases in the United States in which witnesses, people who have information haven’t come forward for decades, and then one day provide information that helps lead to the resolution of the case.”

The documentary, which will be available in full to Netflix’s 159million subscribers around the globe, has a reach which could provide a crucial witness or piece of evidence – and will also raise awareness of the case to a new generation.

Executive producer of the documentary, Emma Cooper, said: “We’re trying to lay out as much detail as we can about the case - and if it could jog someone’s memory in some way then that would be amazing.

“Keeping any search for what happened to Madeleine in the consciousness - particularly globally - is something that’s so important.

“As we show in the documentary, other children are found - so you have to hope.”

PARENTS ABSOLVED

THE couple suddenly found themselves vilified in 2007 when the Portuguese police named them as formal suspects.

Dogs were said to have detected the presence of a body, and blood on Madeleine’s toy, in their apartment and in their hire car. It led to claims the McCanns, right, had given her too much sedative to get her to sleep.

But the documentary shows how experts view the evidence as unreliable and that naming the McCanns as suspects was a desperate act by police.

Jim Gamble said: “The police were clutching at straws.”

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There were claims the McCanns had given Maddie too much sedative to get her to sleep

THE documentary suggests Madeleine could still come home alive.It points to the case of Jaycee Dugard, below — abducted aged nine in California and found 18 years later.

The series also cites Carlina White, snatched as a baby from a New York hospital in 1987. She learned the truth at 23.

The father of Elizabeth Smart — kidnapped from her home aged 14 and rescued nine months later — even contacted Kate to give words of support. Ed Smart said: “I told her to keep the faith, keep hope alive.”

BOTCHED PROBE

FROM the moment Madeleine disappeared, cops were slow to respond and secretive about what they were doing.But under pressure, they soon began to leak information and act rashly.

The film features Robert Murat, a Brit living in Praia da Luz and the first named suspect, who says he felt like he was “being set up”.

Private investigator Julian Peribanzes also says cops just wanted to blame the parents. The officer leading the probe, Inspector Gonçalo Amaral, right, was sacked in October 2007.

SICK GANGS

THE secretive world of online child abusers can be now be thrown wide open.

Julian Peribanez worked at Metodo3, a Barcelona-based private investigation agency once hired by the McCanns.

He tells the documentary he infiltrated a paedophile ring sharing obscene videos and passed their details to police.

Former Head of Cybercrime Juan Carlos Ruiloba, left, said: “In the end 23 people were questioned and 13 arrested.

“Some of these investigations may lead to these minors being found and rescued from their captors.”

SUN’S VICTORY

The Sun backed the McCanns and their search for Maddie

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The Sun backed the McCanns and their search for Maddie

YEARS after Madeleine’s disappearance, and with the probe seemingly at a standstill, the McCanns gained ­support from The Sun.

In 2011, we published an open letter from Kate and Gerry to then Prime Minister David Cameron and a petition for readers to sign, backing our plea for the Met Police to look into the case.

Labour’s ex-Home Secretary Alan Johnson says in the series: “Nothing much seemed to happen and then The Sun picked up the campaign. Suddenly we got the right result.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8631843/madeleine-mccann-alive-netflix-documentary-shock-claim/


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Post by Silentscope 07.08.21 16:42

Do not worry, Channel 5 Mark Williams - Thomas is just back in the U.K. since Thursday, working on the two Russian solution no doubt!
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Post by Verdi 02.09.21 12:45

BY EMMA DODDS | POSTED ON16 03 2019

As the 10-year anniversary of Madeleine McCann's disappearance looms, Portuguese crime expert Moita Flores claims that Maddie "died in the apartment"

Nearly 10 years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, her case continues to stay in the public eye.

With the police given an extra £85,000 by Prime Minister Theresa May to keep the case open earlier this week, the total cost comes to £11.1m.

And a Portuguese crime expert has now claimed he thinks the three-year-old died in the apartment.

Moita Flores, who used to work in connection with the Policia Judiciaria, the Portuguese police who began the initial search, said: "Maddie died in that apartment, I have no doubt."

Reported on a Portuguese website, Flores apparently asked: "Why this child when there are so many others who have disappeared?"

He then commented on the abduction theory, saying: "It would have been impossible to get through a window with a child."

The disappearance of Madeline McCann Netflix documentary: ten most shocking moments

1. Never-before seen footage of Madeleine boarding the plane
The documentary showed never-before seen footage of Madeleine boarding the plane to Portugal with her family and their friend's children.

2. Kate's‘ soul-destroying’ howl
A fellow tourist at Gerry's holiday tennis club said she overheard Kate letting out a 'soul-destroying' howl the night of Madeline's disappearance

3. Police at the scene made shocking claims
Police at the scene made shocking claims that Madeleine had probably wandered under a bush and simply fallen asleep.

4. The contaminated scene
Inspectors found a messy, contaminated scene at the McCann's apartment and were horrified by the lack of preservation of the scene – they compared it to the scene of a robbery.

5. Potential suspect
A friend on holiday with Gerry & Kate claimed she saw a man walking briskly and carrying a child similar to Maddie at 9.15pm – less than an hour before Maddie was discovered missing.

6. Madeleine's message the night before her disappearance
It was reported that Madeleine asked her mum, 'Why didn't you come last night when [the twins] were crying?'. Theories claimed that it could have been the kidnapper making their first attempt but got spooked.

7. 'Praia De Luz is a honeypot of strange people'
Although lots of locals and tourists said they felt safe and secure in the Algarve, one resident said, 'Praia De Luz is a honeypot of strange people. People come here to change themselves'. The Police Inspector also claimed there were a lot of violent drug-related crimes in the area.

8. Former suspect Robert Murat appeared in the documentary.
Former suspect Robert Murat appeared in the documentary, he gave lots of in-depth interviews surrounding his time as a former suspect in the investigation.

9. Portuguese police monitoring the Spanish border
The documentary claimed that Portuguese police monitoring the Spanish border were spotted sitting in their car for 40 minutes to avoid the rain, rather than checking cars.

10. Suspect drawing
The police initially released a suspect drawing, which was simply an oval shape with no facial features, just hair. Kate admitted to a friend that she had no faith in the Portuguese police.

Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for the McCanns told The Sun Online: "Kate and Gerry will not be fuelling any of this pure speculation with any comment whatsoever."

A source told the site: "There is no proof that Madeleine died in the holiday apartment or anywhere else, and until there is any shred of evidence her parents believe their daughter could still be alive."

They then said of Mr Flores: "This person is presenting himself as a criminal expert and is regurgitating claims made by Mr Amaral, he is repeating all the old assertions it seems for shock value."

The Mr Amaral referred to is Goncalo Amaral, the police officer who led the search for Maddie. He then wrote a book called The Truth of the Lie, claiming that Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, faked an abduction story to cover up her death.

This comes after many celebrities have recently expressed their opinions on the case.

Jodie Marsh launched a Twitter rant about the parents last month, in which she said: "If it were my child I'd be on my hands & knees digging up the earth with my bare hands."

Karen Danczuk's opinion echoed Jodie's, as she wrote: "Anyone who says McCanns are innocent, just remember they left three children under the age of four alone to go out. Either way they have guilt!"

But property expert and TV presenter Kirstie Allsopp came to the defence of the McCanns this week, tweeting: "Have always though the McCanns did nothing wrong leaving the kids asleep nearby, it's something people have done worldwide since time began."

https://closeronline.co.uk/real-life/news/portugese-crime-expert-madeleine-mccann-died-apartment-gerry-kate-moita-flores/

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A reminder..

Netflix:  The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - premiered 15th March 2019

Cast ....

   Anthony Summers
   Gonçalo Amaral
   Robbyn Swan
   Jim Gamble
   Jon Clarke
   Sandra Felgueiras
   Ernie Allen
   Robert Murat
   Susan Hubbard
   Haynes Hubbard
   Kelvin Mackenzie
   Paulo Pereira Cristovao
   Brian Kennedy
   Patrick Kennedy
   Jayne Jensen
   Neil Berry
   Julian Peribañez
   Rui Gustavo
   Justine McGuinness
   Patricia de Sousa Cipriano
   Phil Hall
   Martin Grime
   Jane Tanner
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The usual suspects.

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This Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary is niggling me as much as, if not more than the infamous Panorama Madeleine McCann Special of yesteryear.  Trying to link key players, I've just come across this more comprehensive list of the documentary casting..

Anthony Summers ... Self - Investigative Journalist 8 episodes, 2019
Maria João Vaz ... Detective 8 episodes, 2019
Gonçalo Amaral ... Self - Former Chief Investigating Coordinator 7 episodes, 2019
Robbyn Swan ... Self - Investigative Journalist 7 episodes, 2019
Jim Gamble ... Self - Former Senior Police Officer, Child Exploitation & Online Protection Centre 6 episodes, 2019
Sandra Felgueiras ... Self - Journalist, RTP Network 6 episodes, 2019
Ernie Allen ... Self - Former President & CEO, National Center for Missing & Exploited Children 6 episodes, 2019
Robert Murat ... Self - Local Resident 6 episodes, 2019
Susan Hubbard ... Self - Friend of the McCanns 6 episodes, 2019
Haynes Hubbard ... Self - Friend of the McCanns 5 episodes, 2019

Kelvin Mackenzie ... Self - Former Editor, The Sun Newspaper 5 episodes, 2019
Paulo Pereira Cristovao ... Self - Former Detective, Policia Judiciaria / ... 4 episodes, 2019
Brian Kennedy ... Self - Businessman & McCann Benefactor 3 episodes, 2019
Patrick Kennedy ... Self - Brian Kennedy's Son 3 episodes, 2019

Jayne Jensen ... Self - Tourist, Ocean Club Resort 3 episodes, 2019
Neil Berry ... Self - Tourist, Ocean Club Resort 3 episodes, 2019
Julian Peribañez ... Self - Private Investigator 3 episodes, 2019
Rui Gustavo ... Self - Journalist, Expresso Newspaper 3 episodes, 2019
Justine McGuinness ... Self - PR Advisor to the McCanns 3 episodes, 2019
Patricia de Sousa Cipriano ... Self - Lawyer & President, Portuguese Association of Missing Children 3 episodes, 2019
Phil Hall ... Self - PR Consultant & Former Newspaper Editor 3 episodes, 2019
Martin Grime ... Self - Forensic Dog Trainer & Handler 3 episodes, 2019
Jon Clarke ... Self - Freelance Journalist 2 episodes, 2019
Jorge Almeida ... Self - Investigative Journalist, RTP Network 2 episodes, 2019
Melissa Little ... Self - Police Forensic Artist 2 episodes, 2019
Robert Hall ... Self - Senior Correspondent, BBC 2 episodes, 2019
David Hughes ... Self - PR Advisor to the McCanns 2 episodes, 2019
Rogério Alves ... Self - Lawyer for Kate & Gerry McCann 2 episodes, 2019
Homayra Sellier ... Self - President, Innocence in Danger 2 episodes, 2019
Sergey Malinka ... Self - Local Resident 2 episodes, 2019
John McCann ... Self - Gerry McCann's Brother 2 episodes, 2019
Felícia Cabrita ... Self - Journalist 2 episodes, 2019
Alexander David ... Actor / ... 2 episodes, 2019
Louis Charalambous ... Self - Lawyer for Robert Murat 1 episode, 2019
Peter Hill ... Self - Editor, The Daily Express Newspaper 1 episode, 2019
Alan Johnson ... Self - British Home Secretary 1 episode, 2019
David Jones ... Self - Local Resident & Former Nightclub Owner 1 episode, 2019
Jane Tanner ... Self - Friend of the McCanns 2 episodes, 2019
Paul Stephenson ... Self - Commissioner, The Metropolitan Police 1 episode, 2019
Maria Laurinda Jones ... Self - Local Resident 1 episode, 2019
Richard Parton ... Self - Freelance Voice Analyst 1 episode, 2019
Lee Marlow ... Self - Former Journalist, Leicester Mercury Newspaper 1 episode, 2019
Barry Sadler ... Self - Local Property Developer 1 episode, 2019
Nick Carter ... Self - Former Editor, Leicester Mercury Newspaper 1 episode, 2019
Julio Barroso ... Self - Local Mayor 1 episode, 2019
Lori Campbell ... Self - Journalist, The Sunday Mirror Newspaper 1 episode, 2019
Mari Olli ... Self - Tourist 1 episode, 2019
Ray Pollard ... Self - Tourist 1 episode, 2019
Margarida Davim ... Self - Journalist 1 episode, 2019
Juan Carlos Ruiloba ... Self - Former Head of Cybercrime Unit. Policia Nacional 1 episode, 2019
Francisco Corte-Real ... Self - Professor, National Institute of Legal Forensic Medicine 1 episode, 2019
Tiago Aldeia ... Detective 1 episode, 2019
Fernando Lupach ... Actor 1 episode, 2019
Marisa Matos ... Actress 1 episode, 2019
Pedro Saavedra ... Actor 1 episode, 2019
Maria Vasconcelos ... Actress 1 episode, 2019

I don't believe Jon Clarke of the Olive Press to be a lone wolf in the apparent conspiracy to stitch-up the name of Christian Brueckner as the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine Mccann.  I believe Clarke is part of a syndicate with connections in the world of mainstream media.

Correct me if I'm wrong, memory fades, but he's getting more coverage for the book 'My Search for Madeleine' than Summers and Swann attracted wayback when their work of fiction was published.

The thing is, Madeleine McCann was a British citizen, she disappeared without apparent trace whilst on holiday with her family in Portugal but where and why does Spain come into the equation?  Apart from sightings but they were across the globe, not confined to Spain.

Team McCann financial backers, primarily the double glazing magnate Brian Kennedy, engaged the services of one dubious private detective agency, Metodo3 based in Spain .... enter the Spanish connection!  Julian Peribañez, highlighted above and co-presenter of the Netflix documentary, was previously an employee of Metodo3, the disgraced private detective agency.

Grouping together the Netflix documentary, the Discovery+ documentary, Sandra Felgeuiras' various independent productions, Jon Clarke's book and the many witnesses that appear across the board, I see a definite picture forming

The question is .... who is masterminding this elaborate hoax that pins the tale on the name Christian Brueckner?

Who indeed  think   I wonder what Clarence Mitchell is doing these days ....

ETA:  Beg pardon ifthis is not making much sense.  I've got one eye in the kettle and the other in the pot

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Who is the Fat Controller ?
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All the main players are in there aren't they?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9879074/fullcredits

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Does indeed look shifty when you look at all the characters involved.^^^
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Post by Verdi 30.11.21 1:29

Why are we still fascinated with Madeleine McCann?

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It has been almost 12 years since Madeleine McCann went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, a Portuguese resort, on 3rd May 2007, while her parents were dining with friends at a tapas restaurant mere feet away. She was only a few days away from her fourth birthday when it happened. She has never been found; there is no one in prison; there’s not even a notable suspect or clear theory. And yet, over a decade later, her story rarely drops out of the news headlines. So why are we all so completely fascinated with this case? It wouldn’t be going too far to call it an obsession: we are a nation obsessed with the disappearance of this one small child. Netflix’s documentary, The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann shows exactly that: the platform didn’t wait for the actual anniversary of the disappearance or even Madeleine’s birthday to release it. Why bother? There was already an audience waiting for it. It doesn’t claim to offer new information or a possible answer, but it doesn’t need to. There are enough theories, rumours and opinions about this case that a documentary that promises to just offer a full account of the facts can be enough to get people’s attention.

What do we learn from 'The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann?'

Does the Netflix series tell us anything we don't already know.

The sheer amount of (often conflicting) information out there might be part of the reason why we’re all so quick to absorb any information about Madeleine McCann. First of all, there are no obvious answers to be found anywhere. Not even from Madeleine’s parents. They said they were checking on their children regularly, but did they go into the apartment or just look in through the window? Why didn’t they use the crèche that was available? What kind of parents leave their children alone in an unlocked apartment, anyway? Were the McCanns irresponsible, or were they responsible— for their daughter’s death?

The McCanns weren’t the first to leave their sleeping children in their holiday apartment while they went out to dinner (they were only one couple in a group that were all doing the same that very night). But the vitriol that this has sparked from the public has been pushed to the extreme, with the suggestion that they could have killed their daughter and covered it up—as the Portuguese detective first working the case,Goncalo Amaral, accused them of. And that’s just one idea.

Missing White Girl Syndrome: a bias that sees young white girls awarded more press coverage

There might not be one clear theory, but there are plenty of theories.

Kate McCann drugged her children to help them sleep and accidently gave Madeleine an overdose. The disappearance was a staged cover-up. It wasn’t the parents at all; one of the Tapas Seven, Jane Tanner, saw a man carrying a child in pyjamas around the time Madeleine went missing: what if it was her? Subsequent sightings of similar-looking children support that theory. Madeleine might be alive and well, being raised as the daughter of whoever took her. Have you heard about the paedophile sex ring that smuggles children out of the country for the multi-millionaires that purchase them?

And then there are the facts that just don’t add up. There was blood evidence found in the McCanns’ rental car—a car they hired after Madeleine’s disappearance. Cadaver dogs alerted twice in the holiday apartment: in her parents’ bedroom and near the back patio entrance. They alerted again on Kate McCann’s clothes and on one of Madeleine’s toys—a toy that Kate was carrying around after her daughter had already disappeared. Kate refused to answer48 questions the police asked her. But the McCanns have been cleared, so it can’t be them, right? And if they were guilty, why would they fight as hard as they have done to keep their daughter’s name consistently in the press for the last 11 years?

It doesn’t help that the most crucial time in the investigation—the first hours after Madeleine went missing—were most likely mishandled by the Portuguese police. The apartment the McCann family were staying in (and the crime scene) was trampled through, evidence was lost, contaminated or simply not taken in the first place.

For amateur sleuths poring over the details, it’s a case that invites speculation, theories and debate. But it’s the lack of any clear answers—even the ability to rule out the child’s own parents, for some—that continues to fuel fascination. The case is open for onlookers to take a side. Who did it: discuss.

Away from the case itself, is the media’s continued coverage, which powers our interest. We can’t get away from it, because it’s always there. Why this case? Why is it that Madeleine McCann garners so much press when there are numerous missing children out there that go unnoticed? Part of that is down to Missing White Girl Syndrome: a bias that sees young white girls awarded more press coverage than their children of colour counterparts. Madeleine was always prime fodder: a pretty, photogenic child, whose face has launched a thousand front pages and continues to do so.

And then of course, there’s the fact that the McCanns are well-off and well-connected, which has given them advantages others haven’t. As Gerry McCann told Vanity Fair, they have marketed Madeleine to keep her name relevant in the hope that something will come of it.

Even if you don’t want to debate the finer details of the disappearance, the politics that surround it are equally open for discussion and as enduring.

So yes, we are a nation obsessed with the disappearance of a three-year-old girl who was on holiday with her family, taken while her two siblings slept nearby. For many people, this taps into their greatest fear: a child taken in the dead of night, snatched out of their bed and never found again and maybe that is yet another part of why the fascination continues. Will it ever garner more than speculation? Who knows. But the latest documentary certainly doesn’t do more than tread the same old ground, without giving any answers. There aren’t any.

https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/why-are-we-still-fascinated-with-madeleine-mccann



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Post by Verdi 30.11.21 1:30

Stuff and fluff!

We know why we are here - do you know why you are there?

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Post by onehand 30.11.21 14:06

naaa, must have been their dog that chewed on the dvd of the pj files, before they could  read them.

some bits missing, some bits guesswork. and voila, we have a new reality. 

isn't disney not a part owner of that channel?
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Post by Verdi 30.11.21 15:20

onehand wrote:some bits missing, some bits guesswork. and voila, we have a new reality.

Sounds like social media and the occasional forum infill-traitor big grin

At least here on CMOMM we sort the wheat from the chaff and endeavour to stick to the evidence and informed commentary.

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Just happened upon this from the Netflix Madeleine McCann mockuplenty..

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'It wasn't very much different than having dinner in your own back gaden ... [ sick ]

I see no ships dance !

.... and then there was the cold nights and the Tapas restaurant seating arrangements and the opaque awning.

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Madeleine McCann's parents furious tanty over detective's claim they put her life at risk

EXCLUSIVE: Goncalo Amaral used a new Netflix show to suggest missing Madeleine's parents put her life in jeopardy by publicising a distinctive mark in her right eye

ByPatrick HillNews Reporter

  21:43, 16 Mar 2019Updated12:30, 17 Mar 2019

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann were today furious after a retired detective accused them of putting her life at risk in a new documentary.

Goncalo Amaral claimed their decision to publicise a distinctive mark in her right eye put her in ­danger of being murdered.

Amaral – the former Portuguese police chief who led the search – spoke in a new Netflix series about Madeleine’s 2007 disappearance.

His decision to repeat claims he made in his book on the case renews the agony for the child’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann

A source said: “Mr Amaral doesn’t seem to have any compassion for Kate and Gerry and is only interested in publicising himself.

“To criticise them for doing ­everything they could to help find their daughter is insensitive in the extreme.

“If there is any defamatory content in there then, of course, they will consider what next steps need to be taken.”

Speaking in the eight-part film, Amaral, 59, said: “That birthmark made her stand out from all the other children.

“As a colleague of ours said, that mark was a ‘death mark’ and if we make this public it can put the child at risk. It puts her survival at risk.”

Amaral and colleagues believed that highlighting it might make a kidnapper think they had to kill her because it was impossible to hide her identity.

Eight-part Netflix ­series The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann was made available for the firm’s 139 million ­subscribers on Friday. It is believed her parents have ­refused to watch it but their lawyers are taking a look.

The programme’s British makers Pulse Films asked them to take part but they politely declined.

Producers also wanted to interview the McCanns’ family and friends, including the so-called Tapas Seven, who travelled to Praia da Luz with them in June 2007.

But they said no after Kate and Gerry, both 51, from Rothley, Leicestershire, urged them not to get involved.

Amaral, who is still embroiled in a bitter libel battle with the McCanns, also repeated a string of other ­controversial comments in the film.

In his 2008 book The Truth of the Lie, he accused Madeleine’s doctor ­parents of faking her kidnap after she accidentally died in their holiday flat. Amaral wrote the book after being dumped from the ­investigation six months in.

In the film, he admits not going straight to the crime scene – instead sending two subordinates – because he was out having a late dinner.

The documentary features ­haunting footage of Madeleine, including ­mobile phone images of her boarding a jet with her family as they head off for their fateful holiday at East Midlands Airport.

Other interviewees include Jim Gamble, ex-head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, and Bernie Allen, head of the US equivalent.

The McCanns’ ex- spokeswoman Justine McGuinness and ­former benefactor Brian Kennedy also take part.

The search for Madeleine – who was nine days from her fourth birthday when she vanished – is the biggest ever missing person investigation.

A source close to the McCanns said: “This documentary just ­regurgitates everything, the good and the bad, and frankly it doesn’t take it on at all.

“That’s what Kate and Gerry expected and is largely why they thought it wasn’t going to help and didn’t get involved.”

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Post by Andema83 03.06.22 20:02

I've subscribed to Netflix recently, and I was tempted to give the documentary about the disappearance of MM a try, but... well, I ended up reading parts of the transcript instead which, thankfully, @Jill posted here:). Here are some bits that stood out for me:

- The McCanns Portuguese lawyer, Rogelio Alves, ridiculing Goncalo amaral in the most obnoxious way (like 'You see, all he says is just fiction, and you are stupid enough to believe him - now let me tell you, because I'm smarter than you' - that guys' arrogance is beyond belief.
- Jim Gamble declaring that it was *unforgivable* what Goncalo Amaral did (i.e. writing a book about the investigation as it happened up to the point where he was removed) - wow.
- Sergej Malinka doing his part in the "let's all trash Amaral'-exercise, telling how Amaral burst into the room being "out of breath or something" and shouted at Malinka and kicked his chair - I'd assume that you typically don't just switch to physical attacks if you're out of breath, but hey, I wasn't there, what do I know; still, the story doesn't ring true to me. Didn't Malinka write a book too? - For financial gain I suppose.
- Sandra Felgueiras reminiscing about the time when it all started, i.e. when the place became awash with journalists and Sandra F. being one of them - after all, this was the one big story of her whole career, I think she takes some pleasure in remembering how it all began.
- Brian Kennedy - I did read the Summers&Swan-book, and there was one statement of BK in it that stuck with me; he said looking for Madeleine wasn't like looking for the needle in a haystack, "it's more like not even knowing where the haystack is" (I don't know the exact words, I returned the book to Amazon and can't look it up), so in other words, they never had the slightest idea, which he probably wouldn't admit on camera. Instead he said he could determine after 12 seconds that the McCanns were victims - why? How? Maybe he just knew...
- The stuff about the McCanns PIs didn't interest me in the slightest so I skipped all of that
- And so the Hubbarts took part: Weren't the McCanns said to have been furious about the Netflix documentary and were urging their friends not to participate? Well, but the Hubbarts are said to be very close with the McCanns, so much for their supposed outrage! Susan Hubbart appears to just repeat what the McCanns were saying all along, nothing new or insightful there.
- I also skipped Sandra Felgueiras storytelling about how Amaral lied to her about the DNA, we've heard that a million times by now.

So no, I don't think I'll bother with the Netflix Documentary Wink. Many people who watched it pointed out how boring it was, or, as @Verdi put it, stuff and fluff, as is almost everything that is being presented to us as 'breaking news' about the case. Sadly, no-one cares about uncovering the truth, which means to properly address the issues that are there in this case, instead we get a lot of sensational stories that have little or no substance to them or a rehash of old stories, no wonder people lose interest in this whole affair, myself included. And the Netflix docu seems to be one big and probably expensive failure.
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Snipped from my previous post:

"- Sergej Malinka doing his part in the "let's all trash Amaral'-exercise [...] Didn't Malinka write a book too? - For financial gain I suppose."

So, I read this thread

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14745-another-look-at-sergey-malinka

which I found in the section here on the forum dedicated to Malinkas forthcoming book - the book that never saw the light of day and for which he started a crowdfunding, WTF? And seeing how S. Malinka joined this forum and how he interacted with its members... narcissism was through the roof here. And his credibility is gone out of the window. So much for that.
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Post by crusader 04.06.22 12:16

Hi @ Andema83, have you read the PJ files? if not I suggest it's a good place to start.

The Netflix series and books written by "researchers" including Kate's book will not give you the answers you need.

Once you have read the PJ files you will have a good insight of the events of 2007, with this knowledge you can then compare them with books and documentaries.
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Post by Andema83 04.06.22 16:00

Hello @Crusader,
thanks for the kind advice; I did read the PJ files, admittedly in parts, however, certain questions remain unanswered, at least for me. The biggest one for me is the heavy political involvement and why the ambassador and other high-ranking diplomatic stuff were rushing to PDL so quickly, to my knowledge, no-one could offer a plausible explanation for that. Jim Gamble said in the Maddie Podcast that they just wanted to help, which, frankly, I don't buy.
I get your point that I probably won't find answers to such questions in a Netflix documentary, but I'm still hoping that journalists with their 'investigative research' might bring up new info that could move the case forward. We had a high profile missing child's case here in Germany where a mentally retared guy (who made an easy target for investigators) had been fitted up and wrongly convicted, but that wrongful conviction had been overturned, thanks to the investigative work of two journalists who increased the public pressure on those responsible.
But - whatever, maybe I'm being naive.
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Post by crusader 04.06.22 18:20

There are a lot of unanswered questions I'm afraid, and I agree there was unprecedented political involvement and direct interference with the PJ trying to do their work.

It's not beyond comprehension, an independent investitive researcher  may just find something to move the case foreword, and I hope someone does, I do have a problem with ex police and film makers leaving out important facts because it doesn't fit in with their narrative.
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