Re: Professor Horan: Ideas for a podcast about the McCann case

by Cammerigal 29.05.18 13:10

Stonesunturned; YES, do investigate the first 24 hours...from the Sunday not merely the hoax abduction day please. The hoax abuduction was very effective in initially confusing the PJ. This isn’t ‘incompetence’ and note that all of the key players spoke English, but were interviewed via translators, which produced an additional smoke screen layer
Also yes there are many coincidences; Gerry McCann DID play golf previously in PDL. His golf club members have many & historic linkages with PDL holiday homes, so he is probably familiar with the location. His fore knowledge of Robert Murat ( and his role) is both dark and unexplained. Interestingly Gerry the keen golfer never played golf that fateful week, only tennis!
PS. Be aware many shills have previously walked the similar journey path you now tread and have had ‘a go’ at reshaping opinion but all eventually crashed & burnt, The last being Sergei malinka with his crowdfunded book of the truth

by Verdi 29.05.18 13:13

There is something of the déjà vu going on here, it's history repeating itself in every word I read.

Not the first person to try and make a name for him/herself on the back of little Madeleine McCann, past and present. Professor Horan clalims many personal attributes including teaching. Well, he's sure got down with the kids - his prosaic skills are equal to that of a teenager texting a mate.

Professor Tom Horan is an imposter trying very hard to disrupt this forum and it's true purpose. Right?

spam

by **Jill Havern** 29.05.18 13:20

I don't see how he can be an imposter Verdi - he registered with the email address that's available on the internet for the Professor. And he would need to have access to that email address to activate his membership.

by Guest 29.05.18 13:30

Jill Havern wrote:I don't see how he can be an imposter Verdi - he registered with the email address that's available on the internet for the Professor. And he would need to have access to that email address to activate his membership.

He's not an imposter.

He's on Amazon and Facebook and he does do podcasts.

He's been asked to do one by team McCann in my opinion (he won't say if he's had contact with them) to make the Portuguese look incompetent and diss the dogs.

Summers and Swan II.

by Verdi 29.05.18 13:37

An imposter in so far as his presence on this forum is not honourable. Bad choice of word perhaps :dunce: .

To put it bluntly - he's taking the wee-wee.

by Liz Eagles 29.05.18 13:48

Verdi wrote:An imposter in so far as his presence on this forum is not honourable. Bad choice of word perhaps :dunce: .

To put it bluntly - he's taking the wee-wee.

His first post was a p-take. it doesn't take an intellectual genius to spot nonsense.

by **Jill Havern** 29.05.18 13:58

You've gotta admit it's brightened up a quiet, dull and thunderstormy Bank Holiday.

by Rogue-a-Tory 29.05.18 14:33

It's interesting to note that Prof Horan's interest in Madeleine arose at the same time as the Jim Duffy debate raged on the Scotsman. His views appear consistent with a contributor in that debate called Stephen Motson.

by Liz Eagles 29.05.18 14:34

Jill Havern wrote:You've gotta admit it's brightened up a quiet, dull and thunderstormy Bank Holiday.

Well I didn't plan on waking up to a flea infestation.

by sandancer 29.05.18 15:06

He may be a Professor , lecturer , researcher etc but his hostile responses ( " I'm going to ignore whatever you post , unless it agrees with me !) , indicates he's not used to having his views and opinions questioned .

Clearly No , you've got that wrong is not part of his vocabulary .

by Ladyinred 29.05.18 15:38

Tom Horan is joining a lengthening list of academics, if that is what he is, who are using their status to provide the parents with credibility and to dismiss anything that shows them as dodgy.

I recall Sharon Leal (100% innocent) at Portsmouth, John Synnott at Huddersfield, and Graham Hill who had links with Gamble.

I was initially interested in TH's viewpoint as he is a newcomer, and I find it refreshing to read a poster who has something new to contribute or provide a different perspective. Disappointing.

Poor Madeleine.

by polyenne 29.05.18 15:55

"I find it refreshing to read a poster who has something new to contribute or provide a different perspective"

It seems I'm in the minority in giving that newcomer a chance and the benefit of the doubt. He arrived here just one week ago and asked a series of questions. Some have been here for 10 years or more. Sandancer notes his "hostile responses" but is happy to gloss over some of the comments Mr Horan has himself received on this forum.

I sincerely hope that he doesn't turn out to the imposter that some think he is, but surely anyone who just might bring something new & refreshing to the table in the search for justice for Madeleine should be given a chance.

by Phoebe 29.05.18 16:06

Jill Havern wrote:Phoebe, I think you're getting Martin Grime mixed up with Smithman!

Oops. you're right GEG. That should of course read Martin GRIME.!

by **Jill Havern** 29.05.18 16:28

polyenne wrote:"I find it refreshing to read a poster who has something new to contribute or provide a different perspective"

It seems I'm in the minority in giving that newcomer a chance and the benefit of the doubt. He arrived here just one week ago and asked a series of questions. Some have been here for 10 years or more. Sandancer notes his "hostile responses" but is happy to gloss over some of the comments Mr Horan has himself received on this forum.

I sincerely hope that he doesn't turn out to the imposter that some think he is, but surely anyone who just might bring something new & refreshing to the table in the search for justice for Madeleine should be given a chance.

Why do you think he hasn't been banned?

Have you read Blue Bag's post which sums up Prof Horan's contribution to date?

Thinks the PJ are incompetent
He dismisses the dogs
Thinks Martin Grime is corrupt

And something or other to do with the morgue being the reason bodily fluids were accidentally? found in hire car. $i don\'t know$

We're on page 6 of this thread now and we're still none the wiser as to what he's really trying to achieve for his podcast other than to apparently make quite shocking excuses for Madeleine's life being tragically cut short on that fateful holiday.

by Verdi 29.05.18 16:40

As sure as eggz is eggz is eggz, he'll be back checking-in later - with a whole lot more of the same.

rolleyes

by **Jill Havern** 29.05.18 16:48

I find it fascinating how some academics turn into wotnots when dealing with the McCanns, some of whom have been listed by ladyinred upthread.

Not to mention the other wotnots - police, MP's, journalists etc.

by Ladyinred 29.05.18 16:53

polyenne wrote:"I find it refreshing to read a poster who has something new to contribute or provide a different perspective"

It seems I'm in the minority in giving that newcomer a chance and the benefit of the doubt. He arrived here just one week ago and asked a series of questions. Some have been here for 10 years or more. Sandancer notes his "hostile responses" but is happy to gloss over some of the comments Mr Horan has himself received on this forum.

I sincerely hope that he doesn't turn out to the imposter that some think he is, but surely anyone who just might bring something new & refreshing to the table in the search for justice for Madeleine should be given a chance.

I was prepared to listen. I was interested in the 24-hour period, the topic of the podcast, and what investigators focus on during this time period, why TH considers it so crucial, not only in relation to Madeleine's disappearance, but in other investigations.

by Verdi 29.05.18 17:06

polyenne wrote:"I find it refreshing to read a poster who has something new to contribute or provide a different perspective"

It seems I'm in the minority in giving that newcomer a chance and the benefit of the doubt. He arrived here just one week ago and asked a series of questions. Some have been here for 10 years or more. Sandancer notes his "hostile responses" but is happy to gloss over some of the comments Mr Horan has himself received on this forum.

I sincerely hope that he doesn't turn out to the imposter that some think he is, but surely anyone who just might bring something new & refreshing to the table in the search for justice for Madeleine should be given a chance.

To put your mind at ease, I strongly advise you to refer back to page one on this thread, through to Professor Horan's post [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on page two, to see how the thread has developed - or not as the case may be. Professor Horan's comments throughout [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are really beyond the pale, borderline disgusting in parts, certainly not the kind of thing I like to read when relating to a three year old little girl - I'm no prude but I think a Professor should know better, should set a better example.

His short posting history on the forum also reveals a basic misunderstanding of the case, contradictions as to his intentions and above all else an insolent attitude towards members when all they have done is supply the information he requested and/or answered his questions. He repeatedly claims to be only interested in the first 24 hours and then takes every opportunity to taunt members with unfounded controversial commentary that says a lot but in effect doesn't say anything.

Professor Tom Horan has received more than his deserved courtesy from CMoMM. He is pushing patience to the limit by his endless tomfoolery.

by Guest 29.05.18 17:07

Ladyinred wrote:

I was prepared to listen. I was interested in the 24-hour period, the topic of the podcast, and what investigators focus on during this time period, why TH considers it so crucial, not only in relation to Madeleine's disappearance, but in other investigations.

The first 24 hours are important.

For comparing first statements to later statements.

However it seems Prof Horan was not interested in that.

It seemed to me to be looking for reasons to criticise the Portuguese Police (and obviously dismissing dog "razzle dazzle").

And he wouldn't say if he'd been in contact with team McCann.

by Ladyinred 29.05.18 17:07

Jill Havern wrote:I find it fascinating how some academics turn into wotnots when dealing with the McCanns, some of whom have been listed by ladyinred upthread.

Not to mention the other wotnots - police, MP's, journalists etc.

That's a very polite name for them, Jill!

Regarding Tom 's reluctance to answer BlueBag's question, I did wonder whether the parents or their representatives are going to fund the podcast.

by sandancer 29.05.18 17:38

polyenne wrote:"I find it refreshing to read a poster who has something new to contribute or provide a different perspective"

It seems I'm in the minority in giving that newcomer a chance and the benefit of the doubt. He arrived here just one week ago and asked a series of questions. Some have been here for 10 years or more. Sandancer notes his "hostile responses" but is happy to gloss over some of the comments Mr Horan has himself received on this forum.

I sincerely hope that he doesn't turn out to the imposter that some think he is, but surely anyone who just might bring something new & refreshing to the table in the search for justice for Madeleine should be given a chance.

I gave him links that he requested regarding the layout of the apartment , and was perfectly willing to listen and read his comments , however he started to loose me when he referred to a child " bleeding like a stuck pig " and Martin Grime " parlayed " a role with the FBI . If you read back the warning he received from the mods referred to his hostile responses . Being informed that he's going to ignore posts that don't fit his narrow remit so don't bother posting left me cold .
Manners maketh the man , maybe I'm old fashioned that way I think the comments have been fair , and I never "gloss over " anything !

This forum is about Madeleine , not about egos . Peace.

by Ladyinred 29.05.18 20:39

I found an old thread, "First Hours after Madeleine disappeared" by HideHo which Tom Horan might find useful. Just a page long. I can't provide a link, but easy to find using the search button.

by **Jill Havern** 29.05.18 20:47

It's probably this thread, very hard to read!
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by alan 29.05.18 22:03

@ stonesunturned Could you link us to the podcast where you were discussing McCanns with your listeners, the one where they requested you carry out an "investigation". I think we would all like to hear it for various reasons.

by Verdi 29.05.18 22:22

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