Re: What really happened? Part 1 - The timeline

by Honesty 14.09.24 21:51

What time would that have been?

by **PeterMac** 14.09.24 21:53

The whole business of "Screaming' is culturally determined.
Compare the funeral Of Arafat, every one screaming and tying to tear the coffin off the carriage and rip the shroud into pieces, beating their breasts, tearing their hair, throwing themselves onto the ground, and screaming .
– with the Funeral of the Late Princess of Wales. Total reverent Silence, in London before and after the ceremony, and then right up the M1 to Althorpe. Millions of people behaving in a dignified manner.

Women who are being 'abused' largely do NOT scream. Classes exist to try to teach them how to do it. And how to deliver a single sharp physical repost . . . But they don't do this naturally.
Screaming is NOT a normal reaction.

by Jojo1 14.09.24 21:58

Expressions of grief which had to be suppressed until the right time would allow them to, and then all that pent up emotion came pouring out in dramatic fashion? Over dramatic by the McCanns imo

by Nina 14.09.24 22:14

I heard a scream and realised it was me. A policeman stood in our hall and told me our grandson had taken his own life. I didn't know I was going to scream as you would know what you were going to say, it just happened.
I am writing this not for any sympathy or comment about our grandson James but just to let you know that sometimes screams come from your body and you have no control over it so if someone did scream that night in PdL it could well have been a genuine scream from the heart.

by Clishmaclaver 14.09.24 22:35

Jojo1 wrote:Expressions of grief which had to be suppressed until the right time would allow them to, and then all that pent up emotion came pouring out in dramatic fashion? Over dramatic by the McCanns imo

I can't help but be a devil here and come out with a 'reach too far'. LOL

Was K hoping that there would be a member of the Eastern Star in their midst once the nannies, etc, arrived? Hahaha!

by AnneCGuedes 14.09.24 23:05

Honesty wrote:What time would that have been?

After G came back to 5A and before the GNR arrived. According to Analyst 7792 Eaton, the men's movements are difficult to pinpoint, the conclusion being that "in the confusion following the disappearance of Madeleine it would be possible that one of the men or Fiona Payne 'escaped' to join in the searches again later."

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by pinkgladioli 14.09.24 23:13

I know this isn’t a scream, I seen a clip on YouTube where to me she looks genuinely upset and crying
As for him he repulses me, I truly think he is and extremely dangerous man especially to anyone who dare cross him!

You’ll find the clip on YouTube by entering the following into the search box
McCLIP What was said that made Kate cry?

by Jojo1 15.09.24 0:16

I suppose nobody knows how one might react at times of great stress and distress. The body and mind can react in unexpected ways and in ways we don't understand. Everyone reacts differently. The mother in me and my last career experiences has me believing that Kates screams were silent till 3rd May when she let it all out, as it was only then that she was allowed to. However I also think there were dramatics also

by AnneCGuedes 15.09.24 0:24

Jojo1 wrote:I suppose nobody knows how one might react at times of great stress and distress. The body and mind can react in unexpected ways and in ways we don't understand. Everyone reacts differently. The mother in me and my last career experiences has me believing that Kates screams were silent till 3rd May when she let it all out, as it was only then that she was allowed to. However I also think there were dramatics also

But was the strange scream and G's strange roaring related to M's death or to her body's destiny ?

by Jojo1 15.09.24 4:23

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Jojo1 wrote:I suppose nobody knows how one might react at times of great stress and distress. The body and mind can react in unexpected ways and in ways we don't understand. Everyone reacts differently. The mother in me and my last career experiences has me believing that Kates screams were silent till 3rd May when she let it all out, as it was only then that she was allowed to. However I also think there were dramatics also

But was the strange scream and G's strange roaring related to M's death or to her body's destiny ?

I don't know Anne, maybe both. but shock and grief responses can happen to any when least expected and manifests in all kinds of ways at different times.

by Cake Lover 15.09.24 8:30

Everything they did and said was totally in their own interests, and I doubt that this 'scream' was any different. They could have been arguing, for example 'This wouldn't have have happened if you hadn't invited that woman to join us'.

by Honesty 15.09.24 8:41

Nina wrote:I heard a scream and realised it was me. A policeman stood in our hall and told me our grandson had taken his own life. I didn't know I was going to scream as you would know what you were going to say, it just happened.
I am writing this not for any sympathy or comment about our grandson James but just to let you know that sometimes screams come from your body and you have no control over it so if someone did scream that night in PdL it could well have been a genuine scream from the heart.

I am very sorry, Nina.

A friend's grandson also, tragically, took his own life. The first he became aware that something was terribly wrong, was the telephone ringing and his wife screaming.

A relative went to visit her father in hospital, but he had sadly passed away suddenly just before she arrived. She said she screamed when they told her.

by AnneCGuedes 15.09.24 16:50

Cake Lover wrote:Everything they did and said was totally in their own interests, and I doubt that this 'scream' was any different. They could have been arguing, for example 'This wouldn't have have happened if you hadn't invited that woman to join us'.

Who does things against their own interests ? Salcedas had never heard such a scream, I understood what he meant because of my experience of an uncontrollable, indescribable and terrifying scream.
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