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“It was perfectly clear to us that the McCanns themselves had nothing at all to do with the actual disappearance. It was just obvious from everything stacked up that they were where they were when the child went missing.”

Simon Foy - Metropolitan Police former head of homicide.
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“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

George Orwell, 1984


How profound - how very profound!

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Friday 4th May 2007

By this time our friend Jon Corner, a creative director in media production in Liverpool, was circulating photographs and video footage of Madeleine to the police, Interpol and broadcasting and newspaper news desks. This was in accordance with the standard advice of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in the US, which advocates getting an image of a missing child into the public domain as soon as possible.


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"Kate and Gerry are realistic enough to know that Madeleine may be dead and it would be a tragedy that she is found as such, because it rules out the hope that she is alive... But any widening of the search area is encouraging and we would welcome that. If she is dead then she is dead, but not by their hand."

"There are wholly innocent explanations for any material that the police may or may not have found."

Clarence Mitchell
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Post by Jill Havern 05.08.18 13:19

Martin Brunt:

"When most of us initially heard what had happened we all thought "chavvy family from some estate in Essex who weren't looking after their children properly" but the fact that these were two middle-aged, middle-income or, even high-income professionals, doctors, it did rather take on a different hue."

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Post by Jill Havern 05.08.18 13:44

Rachael Oldfield was quite happy to leave her sick baby, G****, unattended in a dark hotel room but didn't like to go and check on her because it was...erm, you know, er... dark.


Section of interview at Leicestershire Major Crime Unit:

DC 1578 Andrew GIERC “In through the front door”?

Reply “Mmm yeah, I mean the patio doors were locked, erm yeah I didn’t really like going up there by myself, it was, like going through that car park was quite dark and there was never anyone around, it was a bit, you know made me feel a bit uneasy”.

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Post by Jill Havern 09.08.18 8:24

Pedro Frias, the judge who has now released a murderer, is the same one who decided to arrest a man over the theft of a mobile phone and to free another one who shot a firearm inside the police station in Portimão. Among so many other cases where Pedro Frias adopted uncommon decisions, there is also the Maddie case, in which he prevented the Polícia Judiciária from accessing and using the McCann couple’s phone taps and text messages.

source: Duarte Levy at Wordpress, 18.03.2009

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Paulo Reis: "Does anyone know why didn't Mr. Gerry McCann filed a complaint against the daily newspaper that wrote, on it's front page, that he was not the biological father of Madeleine McCann?"

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COLETTE DOUGLAS HOME
May 05 2009

She has glossy hair, held back from her face in an Alice band and her dress has a traditional Peter Pan collar. Her eyes look warm and happy. She is smiling. It would be easy to imagine, if the shot were full length, a bicycle resting against a picket fence beside her, or a small pony in a field waiting to be saddled.

The newly-published age progression image of Madeleine McCann shows a well cared for, happy child.

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Post by Guest 17.08.18 15:51

I've seen some cranky theorizing over the past 11+ years but I think this little gem found in the PJ files takes the proverbial biscuit..

TO: Interpol Lisbon

Subject: Madeleine McCann - Yellow Alert F-131/5-2007

We are sending an attached message that was posted on the public Interpol site on 23rd May 2008.

We ask you to take the necessary measures and let us know the results of your investigations in the light of this message.

Hello,

blah

>> Given that Maddie is probably buried inside a bag (as is suggested by the laboratory examinations carried out on the car) she could possibly be found with the use of a metal detector.
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Gerry's long-term agenda:

“We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing. It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that”
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"I have no doubt we will be able to sustain a high profile for Madeleines disappearance in the long term."
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"On Tuesday evening, we took part in the Rothley & Soar Valley Lions 10K road race here in the village. Twenty of us (family and friends) wore our Madeleine t-shirts and that together with cheers of encouragement from spectators, made it all worthwhile. It was a really enjoyable evening and a fantastically well-supported event.

We’re already talking about next years run! Hopefully we wont be needing to wear our t-shirts for that one."

findmadeleine.com: General Update - 19th June 2009
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Gerry McCann and the long-term agenda

'On the flight to Berlin, Gerry wearily admitted the couple's campaign to find Madeleine could last years.

They refuse to leave Praia da Luz while their precious daughter is still missing.

Asked how long they might stay there, he said: "Well, our kids don't start school for three years.'

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Matt Baggott: When stepping down in Leicestershire he admitted that one of his big regrets was the continued failure to locate Madeleine McCann, the young girl who disappeared in Portugal in May 2007.


Maybe Mr Baggott also regrets these?

1) Sent a family liasion officer to PDL
2) Brought in numerous other Forces to assist
3) Provided a Police escort from the Airport to Rothley for the Prime Suspects
4) Assisted in collecting a pillow from Rothley & Delivered it to the FSS
5) Assisted in getting M Harrison to Portugal & then ignored his report
6) Provided a Link from the Leics Police website to the Prime Suspects Find Madeleine website
7) Travelled to Portugal to prevent 'certain information' from reaching the Public
8 ) Witheld for 6 months witness statements incriminating one of the T7
9) Communicated with the T9 in a highly casual, friendly & wholly unprofessional manner
10) Went to the High Court & allowed TM to get their hands on 141 (or thereabouts) pieces of information

11) Continued to support the Private Company of the prime suspects by advertising a link to the web-site
12) Advised the T9 that they saw no value in them returning to PDL for the reconstruction
13 ) Allowed the tapas group to read their previous statements, and each other's depositions, allowed the tapas to change and edit the answers, led the answers, boycotted the recordings of the said statements
14) Leaked documents to journalists and to the McCann Team.

I doubt he wonders, or regrets, why the Police have failed to locate three-year-old Madeleine McCann.

Job done. For some reason...


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Edward Smethurst: "We are currently demanding €1.2 million in damages, but we are reserving the right to increase this value as soon as we can ascertain what profits have been generated from the sale of this book.”

How did that work out for you Mr Smethurst? And have you paid Mr Amaral yet after you lost?

Greedy b*st*rds didn't sue Mr Amaral as soon as the book was released, but waited a year until it had sold many copies. That's how distraught the McParents were.

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Friday 4th May 2007

I was taken into a large room containing several desks. Gerry had asked João Carlos if he could be allowed to stay with me while I was questioned because he was extremely worried about my psychological state. I was grateful to João Carlos for agreeing, with the proviso that Gerry remained seated behind me. I appreciate now that this would not be acceptable practice in most police investigations.

Every now and then Gerry would put a hand on my shoulder or give me a reassuring squeeze.

madeleine by KATE MCCANN
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I bet he did, I bet he did eyebrows !

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Post by Jill Havern 25.08.18 10:39

Martin Samuel, Daily Mail:

"I do not believe any police officer fails to comprehend the significance of finding Madeleine; not just for her parents, but for the mental health of the nation."

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1269926/Madeleine-McCann-heartrending-dilemma.html#ixzz0mYyDK5RC]Mail

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At our insistence, Stuart [Prior of Leicestershire Constabulary] contacts the FSS and asks them if they think the Portuguese are idiots. We hear him saying:

“With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England.”

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"If I'm honest, I’d been quite nervous about seeing the videos of the dogs....."

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Post by sandancer 03.09.18 23:28

Verdi wrote:"If I'm honest, I’d been quite nervous about seeing the videos of the dogs....."

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

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" If I'm honest " 

One of Kates favourite phrases .

Trouble is she doesn't know the meaning of the word !  thinking

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That's what struck me - not I am honest or honestly or to be honest but if I'm honest !!!

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Post by willowthewisp 04.09.18 12:49

Verdi wrote:At our insistence, Stuart [Prior of Leicestershire Constabulary] contacts the FSS and asks them if they think the Portuguese are idiots. We hear him saying:

“With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England.”

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So Call me Stu,recognised the importance of the FSS result,then?
Then had to wait for the ultimate written deliberation of the "Forensic test" after three Months inconclusive,with the rest of the material now"Contaminated",I bet it was contaminated,perhaps on purpose,another one for the "Lunatic Conspiracy asylum" quickly before it spreads or leaks out to the press?
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Post by Guest 04.09.18 12:55

It may sound odd, but in some ways we were glad the investigation had been closed.

As I’ve said, we were far from convinced that there was any real investigation taking place anyway, so to have it officially brought to an end didn’t feel like as big a loss as might have been expected.

While the PJ had continued to supply the usual response – ‘The official investigation continues.  All credible lines of inquiry will be pursued’ – we had been receiving messages from concerned people who had tried to pass on information to the police, only to be told, ‘The child is dead.’

Now that this ‘investigation’ had concluded, reports could be channelled directly to our own team, which would give them, we hoped, more to go on.  It was certainly better than nothing.

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Verdi wrote:It may sound odd, but in some ways we were glad the investigation had been closed.

As I’ve said, we were far from convinced that there was any real investigation taking place anyway, so to have it officially brought to an end didn’t feel like as big a loss as might have been expected.

While the PJ had continued to supply the usual response – ‘The official investigation continues.  All credible lines of inquiry will be pursued’ – we had been receiving messages from concerned people who had tried to pass on information to the police, only to be told, ‘The child is dead.’

Now that this ‘investigation’ had concluded, reports could be channelled directly to our own team, which would give them, we hoped, more to go on.  It was certainly better than nothing.

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Hi Verdi,So Kate,Gerry never actually challenged the Official "concerned People" or contacted Portugal PJ that they had been informed about the,"Child is Dead" to be explained?
Would these concerned people be Clarence Mitchell,circumlocution officer?
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After examining the proximity of the Tapas restaurant to apartment 5A, the barrister first of all assured us that our behaviour could not be deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the bounds of reasonable parenting’.

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"Gerry and I talked about taking legal action against Gonçalo Amaral but we had concerns about the time and effort this would involve. We did not want to be diverted from our own investigation just as we had put the restrictions of the case behind us and we feared that any resolution through the Portuguese courts would take too long. For the moment we hoped the fuss would die down and Amaral would let up."

Kate McCann

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"Uncle Brian had also flown in for a visit.  By 2 August, however, those sirens were wailing so loudly I cannot understand how I missed them. And yet I did.

That morning Gerry and I, along with Jon and a colleague, were preparing to drive to Huelva in Spain to put up posters of Madeleine. Jon was intending to do some filming and several of the British journalists were going to join us there, on the give-and-take principle: it would give them a story centred on Madeleine, rather than on us, and this in turn would publicize our efforts. As I was dropping Sean and Amelie off at Toddler Club, I had a phone call from Gerry. The police wanted to come over at 10am. Something to do with forensics, they’d said. Great timing. And forensics? What was that all about?"

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

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Only eight days before the report by the Daily Mail that the McCanns were forced to remove the twins from the crèche.  No prizes for guessing why!
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Verdi wrote:"Uncle Brian had also flown in for a visit.  By 2 August, however, those sirens were wailing so loudly I cannot understand how I missed them. And yet I did.

That morning Gerry and I, along with Jon and a colleague, were preparing to drive to Huelva in Spain to put up posters of Madeleine. Jon was intending to do some filming and several of the British journalists were going to join us there, on the give-and-take principle: it would give them a story centred on Madeleine, rather than on us, and this in turn would publicize our efforts. As I was dropping Sean and Amelie off at Toddler Club, I had a phone call from Gerry. The police wanted to come over at 10am. Something to do with forensics, they’d said. Great timing. And forensics? What was that all about?"

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

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Only eight days before the report by the Daily Mail that the McCanns were forced to remove the twins from the crèche.  No prizes for guessing why!
What day was ,Gerry"Overcome,Virus",before August 2/3 2007?
So Portugal PJ examined the Renault Scenic on August the 2nd 2007,as per Jon Corners Home video,box of Gloves,wearing gloves to hang out the washing to dry,beginning to feel the "Heat,Sirens"?
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willowthewisp wrote:What day was ,Gerry"Overcome,Virus",before August 2/3 2007?
So Portugal PJ examined the Renault Scenic on August the 2nd 2007,as per Jon Corners Home video,box of Gloves,wearing gloves to hang out the washing to dry,beginning to feel the "Heat,Sirens"?

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14941p25-gerry-mccann-s-blog-highlights#390460

Curious, Gerald omits to mention the most important event of the day - the inopportune visit by Eddie and Keela to chez McCann. His wife however makes quite an issue of it in her autobiographical chiclit.
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"As we were walking up from the beach at about 5pm, I had a call from Cherie Blair, in her final days as wife of the prime minister (her husband Tony would announce his resignation two days later and leave office the following month). She was kind and helpful. She told me it was amazing but encouraging that Madeleine was still the first topic on the news every night.

This was only five days after the abduction: as it turned out, our poor daughter would continue to headline the bulletins for some time to come. Cherie also warned me, ‘Whatever happens, your life will never be the same again.’

She mentioned that a friend of hers, Catherine Meyer, was the founder of PACT – Parents and Abducted Children Together – and said she would get in touch with her on my behalf. Doubtless I asked Cherie if there was anything the British government could offer the Portuguese in the way of resources to assist or expedite the search for Madeleine. It wasn’t my intention to make her feel uncomfortable by asking this, and I’m sure I didn’t. We were just so desperate I couldn’t let the opportunity go by."

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Post by Guest 09.09.18 13:11

Clarence Mitchell:   "An outcome similar to Holly and Jessica is possible. I don't want to, and I can't, talk about Robert Murat but some journalists who worked with me in Soham, and that were now in Portugal, saw resemblances between that case and Robert Murat. And I won't say more."

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Lori Campbell:   It was just very reminiscent of the Soham murders was my first instinct. There was a local guy. He was hanging around the scene an awful lot. He was asking us questions about what was going on in the investigation, maybe trying to find out what we knew and he just seemed to be giving an air that he was authoritative and he was working in an official capacity for the police. And I was just very suspicious about that, that they would take on board a man who was just a local guy. They have many people, I am sure, who speak Portuguese and English. Why would they ask him to, you know, go into the apartment, speak to the family and have that sort of contact with them?
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Post by Guest 09.09.18 23:53

Sandra Felgueiras: "What is your worse nightmare .... when you go to bed"

Gerry McCann: "I don't have many nightmares .... real life is bad enough without dreaming of worse things but (smirks) ...."

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Earth to Professor McCann - as a medic you will know nightmares are the creation of the subconscious in a sleep state, you don't get to pick and choose. Don't evade the point.
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