Nigel Moore's 'mccannfiles' has been deleted

I can't believe this  

http://www.mccannfiles.com/

Some websites do go down occasionally for maintenance, migration or payment of bills.

Let's hope it's not sinister and will be back soon.

Apparently he's been thinking of taking it down for some time.

I've emailed pamalam to ask for reassurance that she won't take down her site and to ask for donations if needed.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Apparently he's been thinking of taking it down for some time.

I've emailed pamalam to ask for reassurance that she won't take down her site and to ask for donations if needed.

Gosh, that's a real pity. One of the first places of reference I visited when trying to find the truth about Madeleine.

thx to cherry1  

McCann Files been saved - link here

https://web.archive.org/web/20161025110751/http://mccannfiles.com/index.html
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Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007

Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."

Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull."

"They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

Trish Cameron: 'They last checked at half past nine; they were all sound asleep, sleeping; windows shut; shutters shut. Kate went back at ten o'clock to check; the front door was lying open; the window had been tampered with; the shutters had been jammied open... or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing.'
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Gerry tells Brian Healy the shutters were broken and the door was open, 05 May 2007.

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."
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Kate/Gerry ring another friend, Jill Renwick, at 07:00am

Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeline had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."

She said the parents went out about 8pm, checked on the children at 9pm and then when they "went back in at 10pm she was gone".

Ms Renwick said: "Poor Kate and Gerry don't know where to turn. She's obviously been taken as she couldn't have gone out on her own and the shutters had been forced open."

"The shutters had been broken open and they've gone into the room and taken her."
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A woman friend of the McCanns - one of their holiday party of nine adults and eight children - said:

"The window shutters, which had been closed since we arrived on Saturday, were open along with the window. They can be opened from the outside.

"The window opens on to a car park. The door to the room was shut. It looks as if someone has come through the window and possibly left through the door."
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"the apartment... was locked" Philomena McCann,

Gerry McCann's sister, Philomena McCann, said on 04 May: "Some people may ask why they left the children alone in the apartment but it was locked and they had a full view of the front door and they were checking every half hour."

"Gerry and Kate are in a clear line of sight of their kids"

Philomena says she had spoken to Gerry ''several times'' and she is still recounting the 'abductor through the window' scenario, when she says ''It is obvious that someone, with malicious intent, went through that window.''

Poor Phil, even the McCanns have said 'we left the apartment unlocked' (so erm, 'people' could 'check' on our kids)
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'apartment was locked up' - Liverpool Daily Post 06 May 2007

The McCanns made sure the toddler, who turns four next week, and her two-year-old twin brother and sister, Sean and Amelie, were sound asleep, and that their apartment was locked up.

But between their checks at 9.30pm and 10pm the apartment was broken into through a window and Madeleine was taken, according to the young girl’s aunt, Trish Cameron.
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So 'that' was the 'message'!

(from GM/KM to 'family/friends')

'Shutters jemmied/broken/forced, door open, Madeleine 'gone''

'STAY ON..... MESSAGE!'

I've just had an email from Pamalam and she says she's waiting for Nigel's permission to copy his site over to hers.

What is the problem with the site?  Is t still a funding issue?

sharonl wrote:What is the problem with the site?  Is t still a funding issue?

I don't know really, it's not like people aren't willing to chip in and help keep it online.

Hopefully he'll give Pamalam permission to transfer it to her site. It would be a real shame to lose it.

Can't really blame him - in the absence of any progress there has to come a time when enough is enough.   Not as though it's a forum like CMoMM, where the administrators and members keep things rolling.  mccannfiles.com is essentially a information source, it's asking a lot of Nigel Moore to continue the site without any new developments.

I'm sure someone will take on the task of hosting the site for future reference - I'd hate to see all that hard work go to waste.

Many thanks to Nigel Moore for the years of dedication towards justice for Madeleine McCann and I wish him well for the future.

Verdi wrote:Can't really blame him - in the absence of any progress there has to come a time when enough is enough.   Not as though it's a forum like CMoMM, where the administrators and members keep things rolling.  mccannfiles.com is essentially a information source, it's asking a lot of Nigel Moore to continue the site without any new developments.

I'm sure someone will take on the task of hosting the site for future reference - I'd hate to see all that hard work go to waste.

Many thanks to Nigel Moore for the years of dedication towards justice for Madeleine McCann and I wish him well for the future.

The PJ files are there. Isn't that this the link to the files:

http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/home.htm

Nigel seems to have deleted his twitter and facebook account, and one of my CMOMM facebook admin tried phoning him yesterday but his number is no longer active.

I don't know what's happened to Nigel, but I hope he's ok and would like to thank him for his many thousands of hours putting together a reference library for so many of us to use.

Nigel, if you're reading here, please allow Pamalam to transfer your site to hers - many of us will help her to keep the site going with donations.

sallypelt wrote:

The PJ files are there. Isn't this the link to the files?

http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/home.htm

@ sallypelt

I am not sure if you are fully aware that there have been two different Madeleine McCann 'encyclopaedia' sites: 

'McCann Files' (by Nigel Moore) and
'McCannPJFiles' (by Pamalam).

Both have all the PJ files.

Nigel's has been the more comprehensive of the two, but Pamalam has a feature in which she has researched, with plenty of pictures, the backgrounds of so many of the individuals connected with the case, which has been very useful.

The sudden suspension of Nigel's site seems to be a puzzle to everyone at the moment. Possibly he did not get enough donations to keep the site going.

I am wondering if we shall also lose Dr Martin Roberts as he was clearly closely associated with Nigel.

However, when all is said and done, McCannFiles has been a truly amazing, comprehensive source of information about the case - and I join with everyone else on this thread in praising him unreservedly for that tremendous achievement which he can look back on with huge career satisfaction whatever happens to the site in the future.

QIf it's due to only funding he can get it back, if we donate or,he could transfer it to  someone else to keep it online.  Am I the only one who finds it strange that it has just disappeared and seems Nigel with it; if there was an issue why not contact someone as we all know how hard he has worked and how valuable the site has been for thousands of people, it is a shame for it not to continue...... Carter Ruck???


Edit is there a connection between the Adam Cruz gofundme scam and this deletion Of the site as on the police scam page it states the following


A private prosecution can not be brought, it is out of UK jurisdiction. Files on the Internet about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are hearsay, including the Allegedly released PJ Files.
http://www.scampolicegroup.com/adam-cruz-httpswww-gofundme-com-scammer/



Note "allegedly"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3877848/Police-investigate-fund-say-trying-raise-1-5m-prosecute-parents-Madeleine-McCann.html

Notice that the article does not mention Amarals appeal win. The comments are quite interesting too. I'm surprised that the moderators allowed them. 

So.. the same day that Mccannfiles is deleted, the mail runs a story that leaves out details of the results of the libel trial and "files on the internet about the disapearance of Madeleine Mccann are HEARSAY, including the Allegedly released PJ Files." 

Stinks to high heaven.

MayMuse wrote:QIf it's due to only funding he can get it back, if we donate or,he could transfer it to  someone else to keep it online.  Am I the only one who finds it strange that it has just disappeared and seems Nigel with it; if there was an issue why not contact someone as we all know how hard he has worked and how valuable the site has been for thousands of people, it is a shame for it not to continue...... Carter Ruck???


Edit is there a connection between the Adam Cruz gofundme scam and this deletion Of the site as on the police scam page it states the following


A private prosecution can not be brought, it is out of UK jurisdiction. Files on the Internet about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are hearsay, including the Allegedly released PJ Files.
http://www.scampolicegroup.com/adam-cruz-httpswww-gofundme-com-scammer/



Note "allegedly"

Who/what the hell are the 'scampolicegroup' - never 'eard of 'em?  Sounds like that daft channel x sitcom the 'Detectorists' - have they got Stephen Birch on the team I ask myself?

Nigel Moore's mccannfiles.com, is essentially an information source that has recorded thousands of documents relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and associated matters.  There is very little narrative under the name of the forum owner, if any libel lawyer is reckless enough to challenge the likes of the mccannfiles, they will also need to take on the world and his wife.  Far easier targets if someone is looking to make an example of a cyber folly.

There are those in the know, so to speak, who have forum to forum contact - like Jill for example.  If there is anything going on that concerns the general public, I've no doubt all will be revealed in good time.

Tony Bennett wrote:

I am wondering if we shall also lose Dr Martin Roberts as he was clearly closely associated with Nigel.

I was under the impression that Dr Martin Roberts had deflected to america some while ago.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Nigel seems to have deleted his twitter and facebook account, and one of my CMOMM facebook admin tried phoning him yesterday but his number is no longer active.

I don't know what's happened to Nigel, but I hope he's ok and would like to thank him for his many thousands of hours putting together a reference library for so many of us to use.

Nigel, if you're reading here, please allow Pamalam to transfer your site to hers - many of us will help her to keep the site going with donations.

Seconded.

Hope he is ok.

Just read on the other thread about the police being involved with the gofund me (possible) scam that the police files on the internet are apparently hearsay.  Don't know if that is true but is it possible he has been "Rucked".

IIRC it was reported Summers and Swan were told to look at the files on the Internet by the police.  Why would that happen if they are "hearsay"?

Verdi wrote:

MayMuse wrote:QIf it's due to only funding he can get it back, if we donate or,he could transfer it to  someone else to keep it online.  Am I the only one who finds it strange that it has just disappeared and seems Nigel with it; if there was an issue why not contact someone as we all know how hard he has worked and how valuable the site has been for thousands of people, it is a shame for it not to continue...... Carter Ruck???


Edit is there a connection between the Adam Cruz gofundme scam and this deletion Of the site as on the police scam page it states the following


A private prosecution can not be brought, it is out of UK jurisdiction. Files on the Internet about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are hearsay, including the Allegedly released PJ Files.
http://www.scampolicegroup.com/adam-cruz-httpswww-gofundme-com-scammer/



Note "allegedly"

Who/what the hell are the 'scampolicegroup' - never 'eard of 'em?  Sounds like that daft channel x sitcom the 'Detectorists' - have they got Stephen Birch on the team I ask myself?

Nigel Moore's mccannfiles.com, is essentially an information source that has recorded thousands of documents relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and associated matters.  There is very little narrative under the name of the forum owner, if any libel lawyer is reckless enough to challenge the likes of the mccannfiles, they will also need to take on the world and his wife.  Far easier targets if someone is looking to make an example of a cyber folly.

There are those in the know, so to speak, who have forum to forum contact - like Jill for example.  If there is anything going on that concerns the general public, I've no doubt all will be revealed in good time.

I have no idea who they are looks like they put out all the scams to warn people not to donate as there are also bogus charities out there. Find it all disconcerting to say the least. 
Is this another "look over here and not there"?

plebgate wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Nigel seems to have deleted his twitter and facebook account, and one of my CMOMM facebook admin tried phoning him yesterday but his number is no longer active.

I don't know what's happened to Nigel, but I hope he's ok and would like to thank him for his many thousands of hours putting together a reference library for so many of us to use.

Nigel, if you're reading here, please allow Pamalam to transfer your site to hers - many of us will help her to keep the site going with donations.

Seconded.

Hope he is ok.

Just read on the other thread about the police being involved with the gofund me (possible) scam that the police files on the internet are apparently hearsay.  Don't know if that is true but is it possible he has been "Rucked".

IIRC it was reported Summers and Swan were told to look at the files on the Internet by the police.  Why would that happen if they are "hearsay"?

I don't if he's been 'rucked' but I wouldn't think so - Pamalam hosts a similar site and she's still there and willing to take on mccannfiles.

Besides, apart from Dr Martin Roberts analyses, all he's done is collate pretty much every newspaper article he can lay his hands on.

This forum has been 'rucked' a few times and we're still here.

But it does seem weird that so many people are throwing the towel in: onlyinamerica, tigger, Blacksmith, textusa, Nigel Moore...

@ MayMuse

'I have no idea who they are looks like they put out all the scams to warn people not to donate as there are also bogus charities out there. Find it all disconcerting to say the least.
Is this another "look over here and not there"?

Well, possibly, the PSC 'libel' appeal, by the McS, 'verdict' COULD be 'imminent'!

jeanmonroe wrote:@ MayMuse

'I have no idea who they are looks like they put out all the scams to warn people not to donate as there are also bogus charities out there. Find it all disconcerting to say the least.
Is this another "look over here and not there"?

Well, possibly, the PSC 'libel' appeal, by the McS, 'verdict' COULD be 'imminent'!

Exactly what I was thinking 

What I don't understand is after the 9 years+ why the mass exit now It's never stopped people from commenting before so why now?


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eta: Link to Blacksmith: http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/nigel-moore.html?m=1

Pamalam is on holiday at the moment and will be back on Monday.

She's already got a page set up on her website to transfer Nigel's over: 


http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/

That's good news.

I have certain parts of the McCann files copied somewhere. Probably on an old PC.  There was a threat of the site going down once before and we were all copying different parts.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Pamalam is on holiday at the moment and will be back on Monday.

She's already got a page set up on her website to transfer Nigel's over: http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/

Could you enquire if there will be any cash required as I would like to donate and maybe others would too. It is important that we don't lose this valuable resource.

I'm fully expecting a public word of acclamation from Messrs. McCann, or a source close to the family, in honour of Nigel Moore's years of hard slog in the name of their long lost daughter, Madeleine.  They were very particular about keeping Madeleine's name high profile - Mr. Moore's cetainly contributed to their wishes.

Just had a LOQK at the 'official find madeleine site' for an update but no mention so far.. 

petunia wrote:What I don't understand is after the 9 years+ why the mass exit now It's never stopped people from commenting before so why now?

Apart from mccannfiles.com, it's only one or two bloggers that have withdrawn isn't it? 

Essentially the case has reached a dead-end so from a bloggers point of view there's nothing left to say.  Operation Grange has been scaled down to the office stapler;  Portugal has exhausted all resources;  the government aren't interested (cough!);  the McCanns have finally shut up;  the press are no longer reporting by the week;  even dear ever faithful Tracey Kandohla is struggling to find something new to say in their favour.  It was inevitable - even the McCanns couldn't hope to maintain world focus indefinitely.

In fairness to Nigel Moore, the very nature of his mccannfiles is an information source only - without any new developments his time and money are wasted.

I sincerely hope that is the only reason and he is OK in himself!

I think we all took the McCann files for granted and didn't really appreciate how much work Nigel had put into them on an ongoing basis.   I really hope he puts them back online and maybe charges an annual subscription to access them.

I also hope he puts it back online.
He may be fed up with it himself, but many people use that site for reference. It would be awful if it was lost to us. OK, it can be found on the wayback machine, but the links don't work! Come on Nigel, hand it over to Pam and let her ask for donations to keep both sites online for us.