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For the purposes of clarity and brevity, I shan’t produce references, here. But everything is referenced, and I will readily produce references on request. First I will summarise the main findings of the Almeida report. Then I will examine each claim in turn.
1. The McCanns and their friends lied about running checks. The first check was by Kate at around 2200 when she discovered Madeleine missing. There is no independent (ie, outside the group) corroboration of the checks purported to have been made.
2. Jane Tanner constantly ‘refined’ her claim of having seen a man walk across her path carrying a child, as if to perfect it, and her claim is probably a hoax. Why would the abductor have risked being spotted by Jez Wilkins and Gerry when he might have walked the other way?
3. After discovering Madeleine missing, Kate left the twins at risk by returning to the restaurant. If she was convinced there was an abductor, how did she know he wasn’t still inside the apartment?
4. Kate’s father, Brian Healy, claimed in an interview with the press that Kate used medication with Madeleine to help her sleep. Kate denied it. Kate requested a drugs’ test on Madeleine’s siblings upon being accused of drugging her children, 3 months later, when she will have known such tests would be non-viable.
5. The dogs (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (EVRD) ‘Eddie’) and Crime Scene Investigation dog (CSI) Keela both have a 100% track record of accuracy when deployed in cases in UK. The one (CSI Keela) detects human blood; the other (EVRD Eddie) detects the scent of human cadaver. EVRD reacted to the ignition card (equivalent of key) and the boot of the Renault car. CSI reacted to the boot of the car and the ignition card.
In apartment 5a, EVRD Eddie reacted to the master bedroom, a spot in the living room behind the sofa, the flower bed outside the apartment, the toy ‘cuddlecat’ a tee-shirt of Madeleine’s and two items of Kate’s clothing. An absence of a finding of cadaver scent on Madeleine’s bed is cited as evidence that Madeleine did not die in bed. Kate offered as a possible explanation of findings of blood that Madeleine had occasional nose bleeds.
6. The assertion of abduction was a fabrication to cover for a tragic accident from which Madeleine died and the McCanns drove Madeleine’s body to a far-distant resting place in the Renault hire car.
7. It was left to Amaral to hypothesise how the McCanns are supposed to have covered Madeleine’s death by tragic accident (sedation) by concealing, and later disposing, of her body in the Renault hire car hired 3 weeks later. But Almeida states that that is what happened.
The deconstruction
We’ll take each point at a time.
1. Interestingly, Almeida is convinced that the whole group was congregated in the restaurant, and seems to believe they stayed there the whole evening. At least one check is verified and beyond dispute – Kate’s. If she’d not made it, the first Kate and Gerry would have known of Madeleine’s disappearance would have been after the group as a whole had left the restaurant to return to their individual villas, and there would have been no alert at the restaurant. And yes, there is independent verification of checks made. Tapas Restaurant staff who waited on them, several days in a row, report, for the party as a whole, that they would frequently have to return meals to the kitchen for re-heating because guests would absent themselves from the table. It is perfectly reasonable to infer that they were returning to their apartments to check on their children.
There’s also the little matter of how Kate, if she found Madeleine’s body, is supposed to have pulled herself together from that shock, then communicated to Gerry, oblivious and unaware in the restaurant, the devastating news of the death of his/their daughter without anyone else noticing.
2. Jane Tanner’s account of what she saw actually remained consistent from first to last. And how would an abductor have known that the father of a little girl he was abducting was right outside?
3. In the first of her arguida interviews, Kate stated explicitly that before returning to the restaurant to raise the alarm, she searched the entire villa looking for Madeleine. If, in those panic-striken and terrifying moments, she thought straight at all, she might well have reasoned that she’d have spotted anyone adult lurking inside the apartment.
4. To be ‘on’ medication is to be taking medication prescribed by a GP or other doctor, for a fixed period or permanently. Medicines bought ‘over the counter’ and taken or given occasionally at one’s own discretion is not being ‘on’ medication.
In her arguida interview, Kate freely told the PJ of all medication they had with them on that holiday. She said that she didn’t give the children any on that holdiday. In an interview to The Sun, Brian Healy confirmed that Kate and Gerry occasionally used calpol with the children. Perfectly true! And the reporter added in brackets (his words) to help her sleep. Calpol is paracetamol for children, a straight analgesic or pain killer, with an excellent safety record.
5. The senior Portuguese detectives, to a man, (there were no women among them) missed one crucial fact. Eddie and Keela both detect blood lost by living humans. The point is crucial because, aside from nose bleeds (whether Madeleine had them on that holiday or not), a visitor to the apartment a fortnight before the McCanns, Paul Anthony Gordon, cut himself very badly shaving, bled for 45 minutes, and paced the whole apartment trying to stem the flow of blood with tissue. And since both dogs react to human blood, alerts by both animals offer competing explanations of blood or cadaver scent. As in the car, certain samples recovered from the floor of the apartment had markers the same as markers from Madeleine’s control DNA sample. As with the car, that was not forensically significant to the investigation.
Eddie did not react to the boot of the car. He reacted, alone, to the specs of Gerry’s blood on the key card. Grime did not allow Eddie inside the car. FSS man John Lowe made abundantly plain in an email sent before his main report that there was no evidence of Madeleine inside the car.
The assumption that Eddie detected death scent on Kate’s clothes and the cuddlecat toy rests on the fact that Eddie picked these items up in his mouth. Grime states about Keela that she is trained to indicate without touching. That is for the excellent reason that the job of a forensic team attending a crime scene is to pass on to the laboratories items of potential forensic interest in a state as closely preserved to the state it was found in as possible. That priority was taken equally seriously at Praia da Luz, even though Madeleine had disappeared 3 months before. It is clearly, then, an untrained and deleterious act of Eddie’s to pick anything up in his mouth. And that no forensic significance can be attached to the act is evident from the fact that he (first) picked up cuddlecat without barking; but picked up Kate’s trousers after barking. So what does the act (of picking something up) mean? We can’t know.
Three further points: Eddie first inspected the clothes in the villa the McCanns moved to after vacating apartment 5a without barking. Then everything was taken up and relayed in a gym where Eddie had a second attempt at inspecting the same items. This time he reacted. So this was an error; but of omission, or commission? We can’t know. Eddie picked up a children’s tee-shirt, but one too small ever to have been worn by Madeleine (at least on that holiday) and obviously one of her (then baby) siblings. And why were neither clothes nor toy ever forwarded to the FSS at Birmingham for forensic analysis?
It is evident from that already said that points 6 and 7 both need work. Joao Carlos states in the final PJ report he wrote that, at the time of Kate’s alert, Gerry was definitely in the restaurant, either ruling out the sighting of the Smith family as a red herring or ruling it in as very highly significant because they spotted Madeleine’s abductor.
And finally there's the little matter of what, if we are to believe Ameilda, the McCanns are supposed to have done with Madeleine's body for 3 weeks before they hired a car and moved it. Ameilda doesn't mention refrigerators. That was Amaral's inspired suggestion. There's no evidence of one, though.
SkunkworksWrite comment (39 Comments)
Anonymous @HB
well done.
This is the discredited interim report that bennett has been bandying around for years, and what the antis believe to this day is the holy grail. It's all they've got and it never was anything more than wild baseless speculation, or fabricated to frame. This shyte was usually good enough for the worst elements of the PJ to bang-up innocent scapegoats (after beating them into submission first) but they didn't reckon that a traumatized foreign couple could fight back and win. Nor did they ever imagine that the world would be looking on.
Epic failure.
http://www.chaosraptors.com/portal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=570:tavares-de-almeida-interim-report&catid=37:press-articles&Itemid=137#JOSC_TOP
For the purposes of clarity and brevity, I shan’t produce references, here. But everything is referenced, and I will readily produce references on request. First I will summarise the main findings of the Almeida report. Then I will examine each claim in turn.
1. The McCanns and their friends lied about running checks. The first check was by Kate at around 2200 when she discovered Madeleine missing. There is no independent (ie, outside the group) corroboration of the checks purported to have been made.
2. Jane Tanner constantly ‘refined’ her claim of having seen a man walk across her path carrying a child, as if to perfect it, and her claim is probably a hoax. Why would the abductor have risked being spotted by Jez Wilkins and Gerry when he might have walked the other way?
3. After discovering Madeleine missing, Kate left the twins at risk by returning to the restaurant. If she was convinced there was an abductor, how did she know he wasn’t still inside the apartment?
4. Kate’s father, Brian Healy, claimed in an interview with the press that Kate used medication with Madeleine to help her sleep. Kate denied it. Kate requested a drugs’ test on Madeleine’s siblings upon being accused of drugging her children, 3 months later, when she will have known such tests would be non-viable.
5. The dogs (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (EVRD) ‘Eddie’) and Crime Scene Investigation dog (CSI) Keela both have a 100% track record of accuracy when deployed in cases in UK. The one (CSI Keela) detects human blood; the other (EVRD Eddie) detects the scent of human cadaver. EVRD reacted to the ignition card (equivalent of key) and the boot of the Renault car. CSI reacted to the boot of the car and the ignition card.
In apartment 5a, EVRD Eddie reacted to the master bedroom, a spot in the living room behind the sofa, the flower bed outside the apartment, the toy ‘cuddlecat’ a tee-shirt of Madeleine’s and two items of Kate’s clothing. An absence of a finding of cadaver scent on Madeleine’s bed is cited as evidence that Madeleine did not die in bed. Kate offered as a possible explanation of findings of blood that Madeleine had occasional nose bleeds.
6. The assertion of abduction was a fabrication to cover for a tragic accident from which Madeleine died and the McCanns drove Madeleine’s body to a far-distant resting place in the Renault hire car.
7. It was left to Amaral to hypothesise how the McCanns are supposed to have covered Madeleine’s death by tragic accident (sedation) by concealing, and later disposing, of her body in the Renault hire car hired 3 weeks later. But Almeida states that that is what happened.
The deconstruction
We’ll take each point at a time.
1. Interestingly, Almeida is convinced that the whole group was congregated in the restaurant, and seems to believe they stayed there the whole evening. At least one check is verified and beyond dispute – Kate’s. If she’d not made it, the first Kate and Gerry would have known of Madeleine’s disappearance would have been after the group as a whole had left the restaurant to return to their individual villas, and there would have been no alert at the restaurant. And yes, there is independent verification of checks made. Tapas Restaurant staff who waited on them, several days in a row, report, for the party as a whole, that they would frequently have to return meals to the kitchen for re-heating because guests would absent themselves from the table. It is perfectly reasonable to infer that they were returning to their apartments to check on their children.
There’s also the little matter of how Kate, if she found Madeleine’s body, is supposed to have pulled herself together from that shock, then communicated to Gerry, oblivious and unaware in the restaurant, the devastating news of the death of his/their daughter without anyone else noticing.
2. Jane Tanner’s account of what she saw actually remained consistent from first to last. And how would an abductor have known that the father of a little girl he was abducting was right outside?
3. In the first of her arguida interviews, Kate stated explicitly that before returning to the restaurant to raise the alarm, she searched the entire villa looking for Madeleine. If, in those panic-striken and terrifying moments, she thought straight at all, she might well have reasoned that she’d have spotted anyone adult lurking inside the apartment.
4. To be ‘on’ medication is to be taking medication prescribed by a GP or other doctor, for a fixed period or permanently. Medicines bought ‘over the counter’ and taken or given occasionally at one’s own discretion is not being ‘on’ medication.
In her arguida interview, Kate freely told the PJ of all medication they had with them on that holiday. She said that she didn’t give the children any on that holdiday. In an interview to The Sun, Brian Healy confirmed that Kate and Gerry occasionally used calpol with the children. Perfectly true! And the reporter added in brackets (his words) to help her sleep. Calpol is paracetamol for children, a straight analgesic or pain killer, with an excellent safety record.
5. The senior Portuguese detectives, to a man, (there were no women among them) missed one crucial fact. Eddie and Keela both detect blood lost by living humans. The point is crucial because, aside from nose bleeds (whether Madeleine had them on that holiday or not), a visitor to the apartment a fortnight before the McCanns, Paul Anthony Gordon, cut himself very badly shaving, bled for 45 minutes, and paced the whole apartment trying to stem the flow of blood with tissue. And since both dogs react to human blood, alerts by both animals offer competing explanations of blood or cadaver scent. As in the car, certain samples recovered from the floor of the apartment had markers the same as markers from Madeleine’s control DNA sample. As with the car, that was not forensically significant to the investigation.
Eddie did not react to the boot of the car. He reacted, alone, to the specs of Gerry’s blood on the key card. Grime did not allow Eddie inside the car. FSS man John Lowe made abundantly plain in an email sent before his main report that there was no evidence of Madeleine inside the car.
The assumption that Eddie detected death scent on Kate’s clothes and the cuddlecat toy rests on the fact that Eddie picked these items up in his mouth. Grime states about Keela that she is trained to indicate without touching. That is for the excellent reason that the job of a forensic team attending a crime scene is to pass on to the laboratories items of potential forensic interest in a state as closely preserved to the state it was found in as possible. That priority was taken equally seriously at Praia da Luz, even though Madeleine had disappeared 3 months before. It is clearly, then, an untrained and deleterious act of Eddie’s to pick anything up in his mouth. And that no forensic significance can be attached to the act is evident from the fact that he (first) picked up cuddlecat without barking; but picked up Kate’s trousers after barking. So what does the act (of picking something up) mean? We can’t know.
Three further points: Eddie first inspected the clothes in the villa the McCanns moved to after vacating apartment 5a without barking. Then everything was taken up and relayed in a gym where Eddie had a second attempt at inspecting the same items. This time he reacted. So this was an error; but of omission, or commission? We can’t know. Eddie picked up a children’s tee-shirt, but one too small ever to have been worn by Madeleine (at least on that holiday) and obviously one of her (then baby) siblings. And why were neither clothes nor toy ever forwarded to the FSS at Birmingham for forensic analysis?
It is evident from that already said that points 6 and 7 both need work. Joao Carlos states in the final PJ report he wrote that, at the time of Kate’s alert, Gerry was definitely in the restaurant, either ruling out the sighting of the Smith family as a red herring or ruling it in as very highly significant because they spotted Madeleine’s abductor.
And finally there's the little matter of what, if we are to believe Ameilda, the McCanns are supposed to have done with Madeleine's body for 3 weeks before they hired a car and moved it. Ameilda doesn't mention refrigerators. That was Amaral's inspired suggestion. There's no evidence of one, though.
SkunkworksWrite comment (39 Comments)
Anonymous @HB
well done.
This is the discredited interim report that bennett has been bandying around for years, and what the antis believe to this day is the holy grail. It's all they've got and it never was anything more than wild baseless speculation, or fabricated to frame. This shyte was usually good enough for the worst elements of the PJ to bang-up innocent scapegoats (after beating them into submission first) but they didn't reckon that a traumatized foreign couple could fight back and win. Nor did they ever imagine that the world would be looking on.
Epic failure.
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Re: Honestbroker: Tavares de Almeida Interim report
This shyte was usually good enough for the worst elements of the PJ to bang-up innocent scapegoats (after beating them into submission first)
Which innocent scapegoats have been banged up and beaten into submission first?
Which innocent scapegoats have been banged up and beaten into submission first?
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I would still like it explained to me where Martin Grime states categorically that Eddie would react to blood alone. I may have missed something somewhere and if I have I apologize but I have not seen it.
I even emailed Martin Grime to ask him but didnt get an answer.
Eta.
Scrub that I've just found it
"Eddie' The Enhanced Victirn Recovery Dog (E.V.RD.) will search for and locate
human rernains and body fluids including blood to very small samples in any
environment or terrain"
I even emailed Martin Grime to ask him but didnt get an answer.
Eta.
Scrub that I've just found it
"Eddie' The Enhanced Victirn Recovery Dog (E.V.RD.) will search for and locate
human rernains and body fluids including blood to very small samples in any
environment or terrain"
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''Paul Anthony Gordon, cut himself very badly shaving, bled for 45 minutes, and paced the whole apartment trying to stem the flow of blood with tissue''
One became so tearful at this point, due to uncontrollable laughter, that one simply had to stop reading.
Mitchell did warn us that everything could be explained away, but one expected far more use of the collective imagination than this
One became so tearful at this point, due to uncontrollable laughter, that one simply had to stop reading.
Mitchell did warn us that everything could be explained away, but one expected far more use of the collective imagination than this
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Is he sure he didnt mean he cut his throat or something, I dont really think that cutting yourself shaving would amount to bleeding for a whole 45 minutes, did he time it by the way?
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Cherry wrote:Is he sure he didnt mean he cut his throat or something, I dont really think that cutting yourself shaving would amount to bleeding for a whole 45 minutes, did he time it by the way?
What use would the said bleeding be if it were not accompanied by a timeline?
This 'deconstruction' is seeking to expose the report as worthless, so it would not be in keeping to have any suggestion of only a little blood.
Epecially if we recall that the scent which Keela so fondly referred to, was allegedly deep in the grout mix, necessitating much blood to have fallen there in order for it to seep between the tiles.
One would seriously recommend that this chappie seeks medical advice on his excessive bleeding problem, because he seems to have problems with clotting. If this person were to cut their foot on a bottle on a beach somewhere, they could bleed to death before the tide went out.
One asks this question regularly, but will ask again to see if we have an update:
Have there been any reports of somebody suddenly remembering that they stayed in 5A at some indefinite point prior to 2007 and that their old uncle died, but they did not tell the police because they could not afford to fly him back home, so they drove him all the way back to Blighty in the back of a Transit and left him in his greenhouse?
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Now if it was bleeding for 13 minutes or 27 minutes I might give more credence to the story but when I hear an exact 45 minutes then I begin to wonder - if a person is bleeding for that length of time they would be in such a state of panic and distress I hardly think they would be saying to themself 'oh, instead of staunching the blood and scrambling around for some tissue, let me check my watch to see how long I am bleeding for' - it sounds to me rather like this 45 minutes was plucked from the air and that someone thinks we are all gullible enough to swallow it!
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I want to add that since January this year I have received numerous phone calls, messages and visits from the press regarding the collector of donations, which in turn put me in contact with other people such as
Brian Kennedy, Kate and Gerry McCann. I feel that this is a constraint that makes it difficult to take the more correct decision.
Wonder how the media got his name and phone number.
Brian Kennedy, Kate and Gerry McCann. I feel that this is a constraint that makes it difficult to take the more correct decision.
Wonder how the media got his name and phone number.
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Draco wrote:I want to add that since January this year I have received numerous phone calls, messages and visits from the press regarding the collector of donations, which in turn put me in contact with other people such as
Brian Kennedy, Kate and Gerry McCann. I feel that this is a constraint that makes it difficult to take the more correct decision.
Wonder how the media got his name and phone number.
Please would you attribute the blue part of your post to the person who said it, so that when people read it as their second or third language they will know who said this without their having to read back to decode it.
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Judge Mental wrote:''Paul Anthony Gordon, cut himself very badly shaving, bled for 45 minutes, and paced the whole apartment trying to stem the flow of blood with tissue''
One became so tearful at this point, due to uncontrollable laughter, that one simply had to stop reading.
Mitchell did warn us that everything could be explained away, but one expected far more use of the collective imagination than this
Can you imagine Paul Anthony Gordon hiding his bleeding face behind the sofa or trying to stem the flow of blood by cramming himself onto the second shelf of the wardrobe, possibly in a blue tennis bag that subsequently went missing?
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I would suggest Paul Anthony Gordon needs to book himself into the nearest warfarin clinic asap - in order that he is not putting his health at risk should he have any similar accidents in the future.
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ufercoffy wrote:Judge Mental wrote:''Paul Anthony Gordon, cut himself very badly shaving, bled for 45 minutes, and paced the whole apartment trying to stem the flow of blood with tissue''
One became so tearful at this point, due to uncontrollable laughter, that one simply had to stop reading.
Mitchell did warn us that everything could be explained away, but one expected far more use of the collective imagination than this
Can you imagine Paul Anthony Gordon hiding his bleeding face behind the sofa or trying to stem the flow of blood by cramming himself onto the second shelf of the wardrobe, possibly in a blue tennis bag that subsequently went missing?
One cannot imagine this at all
It may have been noticed that one is an expert at arithmetics being able to find that three subtracted from thirty is 27, however one is seriously struggling to calculate the maths for Paul Anthony Gordon having also been associated with the hired car.
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Dishonestbroker is another rabble rouser just like his teacher - the mccanns must be proud of him as student.
He is a fla.........g joke!
He is a fla.........g joke!
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Have just found this about what was found in the car:
The Maddy file EXCLUSIVE: Dramatic new blood sample evidence Cops 'tapped' couple's phone for clues By Jon Clements And Ryan Parry In Praia Da Luz 11/09/2007 Key forensic tests back police suspicions that Kate McCann accidentally killed her daughter Madeleine and the body was then moved by car, it was claimed yesterday. Experts found differences in Madeleine's blood traces taken from the family apartment in Praia da Luz and the Renault Scenic Kate and husband Gerry rented 25 days after the four-year-old vanished on May 3. They say specks found on the floor and window sill of the apartment were fresh before they dried. But blood and other bodily fluids found in the boot lining and interior of the Renault congealed differently, indicating they came from Madeleine's body at a later time. The samples reportedly had a "full match" with Madeleine's DNA. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/09/11/the-maddy-file-89520-19766330/ |
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