More mud-slinging by McCann-supporters

It seems that McCann-believers will stop at nothing, not going only down into the gutter, but below it in the sewers. Yet the poster is probably someone who cheerfully inhabits pro-McCann hate sites like JATYK and PFA2. The work of someone like Nigel Nessling, Ian West or Tony Winters.

This particular allegation is wholly untrue and I've given up denying it to those who keep re-posting the claim - but it doesn't stop this particular McCann-believer referring to the allegation being made 'again and again'. Of course! Anything is fair game in order to silence people.

This came up on my Google Web Alert for 'Madeleine Foundation' this morning.

I've added an answer which should give us a bit of free publicity - until BT Yahoo pull the thread, that is:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100724195041AAWnBpu

It wouldnt surprise me if some of these people are being paid to make these malicious comments, have put a reply up.

Cherry wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if some of these people are being paid to make these malicious comments, have put a reply up.

Many thanks, 'Cherry', maybe in football terms this will turn out to be an 'own goal'.

If only we knew the real identity of this mudslinger.

Perhaps we will have to do some digging!

What we can deduce from the question is that the questioner is trying to hide their identity. By that I mean their normal username identity.
For starters they use the name John Smith, the commonest name in the country.
They use the American spelling 'behavior' instead of 'behaviour' and there is the allusion to the American Larry Craig scandal, but then also use the word 'cottaging' which is mainly a British gay slang term.
Could of course be someone with links to both sides of the pond or merely someone deliberately obfuscating.
The post was made nine hours ago, ie round about four in the morning - insomniac, shiftworker or USA domiciled?

By clicking on the avatar his/her stats are brought up and they've only been a member since July 24th, which makes it obvious that they only joined up to ask this question. And actually, it's not even a question although it's disguised as one -- Yahoo Answers has been used here to cynically put this idea in people's minds.
It has to be one of the Usual Suspects but one who feels less safe using their regular username away from the comfort zone of their nornal blogs/forums.

Good support on there for Tony already.
Perhaps someone could include a reference to googling the Gaspars statement in their reply to make them regret shaking the tree

Managed to edit my post to add about Gaspar Statements.

baconbutty you have missed your vocation as a detective

Nice one, thanks Cherry xx

You're welcome

I tried to post another answer, but it wouldn't let me.

But thanks to the advice above I have edited my post, to add this:

For a good YouTube video* on the 48 questions by the Portuguese police that Dr Kate McCann refused to answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgID-DiABww&feature=fvst

This YouTube video of Martin Grime's springer spaniel, trained to sniff out where corpses have lain, examining cars in a Portuguese car lot is also worth a view - around 48,500 people have seen it already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lrrMoUr3OA

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[ Note: This is another video of the 48 questions that Dr Kate McCann refused to answer, titled 'Policia Judiciara' if you want to view it. It's just the 48 questions, listed on screen, it lasts 4 minutes and is set to tasetful Beethoven music ]

I think if much more McCann-sceptical comment goes on, they'll soon pull it!

It's really sad that peoples lives are so empty that they resort to this type of behaviour. What a pitiful purpose in life they must have.

This is beginning to work out better than I'd hoped!

This message came into my inbox just before lunch:


Hello ajsbennett@btinternet.com (ajsbennett@btinternet.com),
You have received a message from another user!

From: [withheld by TB]

Subject: Can I add you as a contact.

Message: I hope you don't mind. I have a long standing interest in the Madeleine McCann case and the activities of her parents supporters/hired professionals.

I am familiar with your Madeleine Foundation site, I have found much interesting info there about the case.

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Every cloud has a silver lining...a blessing in disguise! John Smith will be pulling the thread before you can say: 'Tony Winters'

Ruby wrote:Good support on there for Tony already.
Perhaps someone could include a reference to googling the Gaspars statement in their reply to make them regret shaking the tree

The best thing to do is to do nothing, that's my view always.
Dont react to it, that way it has to die away.

But since there are response on there and support for TB, maybe people could also post a survey asking people opinion as to why they think KM didnt answer the 48 questions?

aiyoyo wrote:The best thing to do is to do nothing, that's my view always.
Dont react to it, that way it has to die away.

That's all very well if you've got a username like 'aiyoyo' and no one knows who you are, but these people trash your reputation and leave a trail of lies on the internet for your friends and family to find...simply because we don't believe the McCann's fairy stories about what happened to the daughter they abandoned to her fate.

jkh wrote:"...these people trash your reputation and leave a trail of lies on the internet for your friends and family to find...simply because we don't believe the McCann's fairy stories..."

Tell me about it, Jill! And as you've no doubt also discovered, there's precious little one can do about it in practice.

If I won the lottery, I might be able to afford Carter Ruck.

But...

...I don't do the lottery.

Can a cadaver dog alert be trusted without a body? Slate said No.?

They also said the dogs become less and less reliable as time goes by.



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApWGO36HDwqCgP1itMCadZHsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100724195227AA2u2WH

John Smith has also asked the above question, some experts on the dogs may wish to answer it.

You may want to put the dog video under this question as well Tony?

Tony Bennett wrote:

jkh wrote:"...these people trash your reputation and leave a trail of lies on the internet for your friends and family to find...simply because we don't believe the McCann's fairy stories..."

Tell me about it, Jill! And as you've no doubt also discovered, there's precious little one can do about it in practice.

If I won the lottery, I might be able to afford Carter Ruck.

But...

...I don't do the lottery.

I've had to do something about it - I've removed my business website and don't tell my pupils my surname since one of them googled my driving school and found Hitchen's, Sym's and muratfan's libellous filth.

Yes, it would be nice to be able to afford Carter Ruck but a deed poll name change will be cheaper.

Tony Bennett wrote:

Tell me about it, Jill! And as you've no doubt also discovered, there's precious little one can do about it in practice.

If I won the lottery, I might be able to afford Carter Ruck.

But...

...I don't do the lottery.

Tony

If you had won the lottery, would you want to appoint Carter Ruck? You would probably appoint some really good reputable solicitors with a good track record. Carter Ruck may be ok for some, but most of us here are of a much higher moral standing.

Save your £1 - alll you need do is join the freemasons

http://www.charitiesdirect.com/charities/search.php?Charity=mason&CategoryID=101&Exclude=&Objectives=&Location=&AreaOfOperation=Leicestershire&RegNo=&Action=Search&Submit=Search


http://www.charitiesdirect.com/advisers/search.php?Start=200&AdviserTypeCode=S

sharonl wrote:Tony - save your £1 - alll you need do is join the Freemasons.

I'm not sure I want to be a member of a society that points a sword at your throat and asks you to swear never to betray its secrets, on pain of death by your fellow-members. The annual fee to the National Trust may be more expensive, but they don't put you through all that, though the applicaton form-cum-direct debiting mandate form is a bit of a headache. Still, you get to see Freemasonry H.Q. for free if you do join - the Rothschilds' pad at Waddeson Manor, Bucks.

Or should that be: Megabucks?

Tony Bennett wrote:

sharonl wrote:Tony - save your £1 - alll you need do is join the Freemasons.

I'm not sure I want to be a member of a society that points a sword at your throat and asks you to swear never to betray its secrets, on pain of death by your fellow-members. The annual fee to the National Trust may be more expensive, but they don't put you through all that, though the applicaton form-cum-direct debiting mandate form is a bit of a headache. Still, you get to see Freemasonry H.Q. for free if you do join - the Rothschilds' pad at Waddeson Manor, Bucks.

Or should that be: Megabucks?

I don`t think that the Freemasons are for the likes of anyone here, especially when you read page 183 of their handbook

" YOU MUST BE CERTAIN TO CONCEAL THE CRIMES OF YOUR BROTHERS AT ALL TIMES"

Absolutely shocking, no self respecting person would stoop to that level now would they?

sharonl wrote:I don' think that the Freemasons are for the likes of anyone here, especially when you read page 183 of their handbook

"YOU MUST BE CERTAIN TO CONCEAL THE CRIMES OF YOUR BROTHERS AT ALL TIMES"

Absolutely shocking, no self respecting person would stoop to that level now would they?

I'm not sure about that.

Suppose one day I was in real distress and needed some emergency help.

I might adopt that Muslim prayer-style bowing to the ground which Dr Gerry McCann did when the GNR first arrived and, according to that book by the one-whose-name-cannot-be-mentioned called the-title-that-cannot-named and the-documentary-that-no-one-must-ever-see-again the two McCanns both repeated together on their bed when the PJ arrived.

It seems to have done the trick for them.

It's remarkably similar to the 'Freemasonry Extreme Distress' signal that appears in their secret handbook.

Just a coincidence, of course.

jkh wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:The best thing to do is to do nothing, that's my view always.
Dont react to it, that way it has to die away.

That's all very well if you've got a username like 'aiyoyo' and no one knows who you are, but these people trash your reputation and leave a trail of lies on the internet for your friends and family to find...simply because we don't believe the McCann's fairy stories about what happened to the daughter they abandoned to her fate.

I understand where you're coming from. But unless people know who the scumbag John Smith is, the name is as phoney as a screen name really. If TB hasnt posted it up I wouldnt have noticed the Yahoo posting. Just saying reacting to it just serve their purpose, and those idiots will only split sides they managed to illicit a reaction.

Anyway followers of TB works would recognise it's only a slur without truth, because they know very well TB is targeted precisely of the nature of his work. More so, his family and friends, even if they'd seen that, must know TB is victimised by those lowlife scumbags because TB is ruffling some feathers. The fact that they reacted by attacking TB only goes to show TB is thorn to the mccanns and they fear TB. The more they come out with the slur, the more they manifest that fear.
Those who have never heard about TB would not respond or would think nothing about the yahoo posting anyway.

You will be surprised a large percentage of the world public believed Maddie is dead and her parents told porkie pies. Believe me people my side of the continent; I live in a cosmopolitan city, and I have friends of all sorts of nationalities covering several continents, they all believe Mccanns hid the truth to save their own arse. I better not say those forbidden words.......because apparently they and their spies are keeping their eyes peeled on this site. The pro-abduction believers are likey limited to only those few on forum and this is in very miniscule percentage as compared to a mega-proportion of the world population believing to the contrary. The mccanns are only fooling themselves thinking they fooled others.

In fact, recently I had two-pairs of UK guests staying at my place, one ex-military, and one current civilian military, plus their spouses..and during conversation their expressed view was that Maddie is dead and her parents not innocent of her fate. This view is taken based on what little they glimpse of the mccanns public appearances and press articles. I dont believe they'd heard about the dogs nor did they know about TB campaign, and I didnt let on that follow the case on forum. Basically that's the general consensus about missing madeleine fate from what I know.

Jkh, if they are targeting also you and harassing you just because you provide a site, then these people are really sickos.

Tony Bennett wrote:

sharonl wrote:I don' think that the Freemasons are for the likes of anyone here, especially when you read page 183 of their handbook

"YOU MUST BE CERTAIN TO CONCEAL THE CRIMES OF YOUR BROTHERS AT ALL TIMES"

Absolutely shocking, no self respecting person would stoop to that level now would they?

I'm not sure about that.

Suppose one day I was in real distress and needed some emergency help.

I might adopt that Muslim prayer-style bowing to the ground which Dr Gerry McCann did when the GNR first arrived and, according to that book by the one-whose-name-cannot-be-mentioned called the-title-that-cannot-named and the-documentary-that-no-one-must-ever-see-again the two McCanns both repeated together on their bed when the PJ arrived.

It seems to have done the trick for them.

It's remarkably similar to the 'Freemasonry Extreme Distress' signal that appears in their secret handbook.

Just a coincidence, of course.

Wonder whether the GNR or PJ captured that dramatic pairs doing their 'muslim-style appealing to allah' on photos. That will be quite sight with their bums in the air!

aiyoyo wrote:

Wonder whether the GNR or PJ captured that dramatic pairs doing their 'muslim-style appealing to allah' on photos. That will be quite sight with their bums in the air!

I love the properties for that photo - wtf

sharonl wrote:I don't think that the Freemasons are for the likes of anyone here, especially when you read page 183 of their handbook

"YOU MUST BE CERTAIN TO CONCEAL THE CRIMES OF YOUR BROTHERS AT ALL TIMES"

Absolutely shocking...

Indeed...but what a truly remarkable similarity this bears to the oath every Roman Catholic priest swears to the Pope never to report any crimes, even gross child sexual abuse or murder, to the local cops - but only to the world's biggest and longest-running spy centre - The Vatican City - an oath that's led to thousands of priests perpetrating the most vile and violent abuse on tens of thousands of innocent children in countries all over the world in recent decades.

I wonder if perchance the two organisations are in some way related?

P.S. The media reported throughout 2007 that the McCanns were 'devout Catholics'.

aiyoyo wrote:Jkh, if they are targeting also you and harassing you just because you provide a site, then these people are really sickos.

They don't just target me but they used a member of this forum to target my mum too. This wasn't the real Autumn from here, of course - most likely it was Sym who really did contact the Macmillan hospice where mum was dying and then posted her name all over the internet. This screenshot was posted on Debbie Butler's forum and Debbie actually posted on this same thread, so was very aware of it but didn't delete it. She then emailed me to sponsor her walk for Macmillans.

Tony Bennett wrote:P.S. The media reported throughout 2007 that the McCanns were 'devout Catholics'.

I wonder why they reported that because Kate's mum said they weren't particularly religious and you'd think she'd know her own daughter...

jkh wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:P.S. The media reported throughout 2007 that the McCanns were 'devout Catholics'.

I wonder why they reported that...

Er, because Clarence Mitchell, Director of the government's spin unit, the 40-strong Media Monitoring Unit, was on this case from Day One.

Attending the church looked good, and Dr Gerald McCann was able to come up with his: "I have seen a vision...of light at the end of a tunnel".

Before you could recite 10 'Hail Marys' and a rosary chant, Mitchell was on the blower to his mate Archbishop Cormac Murphy O'Connor, an Irishman I think he may have been (not sure), fixing up an appointment for the devout ones to see His Holiness, the 'Holy Father'.

Plus the visit to the Fatima Shrine looked good too, where Dr Gerald McCann 'put in another great performance'.

Presentation.

Tony Bennett wrote:

sharonl wrote:Tony - save your £1 - alll you need do is join the Freemasons.

I'm not sure I want to be a member of a society that points a sword at your throat and asks you to swear never to betray its secrets, on pain of death by your fellow-members. The annual fee to the National Trust may be more expensive, but they don't put you through all that, though the applicaton form-cum-direct debiting mandate form is a bit of a headache. Still, you get to see Freemasonry H.Q. for free if you do join - the Rothschilds' pad at Waddeson Manor, Bucks.

Or should that be: Megabucks?

Freemasons throw exclusive parties for wives and daughters of members, these are usually twice yearly. Masons are required to purchase extremly expensive gifts (and I mean expensive) to present the females with at the party.