Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
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Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by HiDeHo 03.01.16 20:19
PUBLIC PROSECUTOR APPLIED TO SUPREME COURT TO GET INFORMATION ON THE DELETED TEXT MESSAGES MAY 28TH 2008 about a month before shelving WHY?
Gerry denied the messages which can be clearly seen on the records in the files. WHY?
The messages started arriving Wednesday May 2nd at 8am. If nothing happened to Madeleine before Thursday WHY would they be considered so important? Had something happened BEFORE Wed 8am?
Could there have been something contained in them that may have prevented the shelving? If not, why the 'rush' before the Final Report?
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Details of the continuing investigation were revealed in court documents released by the Supreme Court of Justice in the city of Evora.
Public prosecutor Jose Magalhaes e Meneses had applied to the court for permission to seize the mobile phone records of the McCanns and their friends, the so-called Tapas Seven.
Investigators are interested in 18 text messages allegedly sent from an unidentified number to Mr McCann between May 2 and 4 last year.
Madeleine vanished on May 3. Police also wanted details of calls made between April 28, when the group arrived in Portugal, and September 9, when the McCanns left the country to return to their home in Rothley, Leicestershire.
Judge Fernando Ribeiro Cardoso refused the request for the calls and texts, and in his written judgement revealed the directions of the continuing investigation.
He wrote: 'In the case files pending in the Public Prosecution Services... they are investigating the disappearance of M.M. and the eventual carrying out of the crimes of abduction, homicide, exposure or abandonment of a child and concealment of a corpse.'
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[size=60]Gerry and Kate McCann's fury after 14 texts slur[/size]
Gerry McCann reacted angrily yesterday to claims he received a string of mystery texts the day before his daughter vanished.
Police applied to Portugal's supreme court to seize his phone records after learning of the alleged messages.
They claim Gerry was sent 10 texts from an unknown number 24 hours before Madeleine disappeared.
And detectives say four messages arrived from the same mystery number the day after she went missing, according to court documents.
But Gerry and wife Kate have dismissed the claims as "utter rubbish".
A source close to them said: "They have had their phone records available for inspection for months. But the police never asked for them. And now they have formally asked, they have been refused.
"Any suggestion of Gerry receiving 10 texts the day before Madeleine disappeared are utter rubbish.
"He hardly used his phone during the holiday and most of the friends with them didn't even have mobiles.
"The only time his phone rang was when work called and he explained he was on holiday. There are no mystery texts. Gerry has nothing to hide. It's yet more nonsense coming from Portugal."
Police also applied to see the phone records of the friends that Gerry and Kate were on holiday with.
But Portugal's supreme court yesterday issued a detailed ruling rejecting the application. It is believed detectives waited too long to request the records and that accessing them could breach privacy laws. A local judge had already turned down the application.
As part of the ruling, it emerged for the first time that the McCanns are being investigated for manslaughter.
It is the first time official paperwork has been made public in the year-long investigation into the five-year-old's disappearance from Praia da Luz.
The 5,000-word ruling also reveals that police are investigating the McCanns for "exposure, abandonment and concealment of a corpse".
Kate and Gerry recently claimed police do not officially suspect them - even though they are both still "arguidos".
McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "They are not officially suspected of any crime.
"Nor have they been accused of any crime."
Maddy has been missing for 392 days
Gerry denied the messages which can be clearly seen on the records in the files. WHY?
The messages started arriving Wednesday May 2nd at 8am. If nothing happened to Madeleine before Thursday WHY would they be considered so important? Had something happened BEFORE Wed 8am?
Could there have been something contained in them that may have prevented the shelving? If not, why the 'rush' before the Final Report?
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Details of the continuing investigation were revealed in court documents released by the Supreme Court of Justice in the city of Evora.
Public prosecutor Jose Magalhaes e Meneses had applied to the court for permission to seize the mobile phone records of the McCanns and their friends, the so-called Tapas Seven.
Investigators are interested in 18 text messages allegedly sent from an unidentified number to Mr McCann between May 2 and 4 last year.
Madeleine vanished on May 3. Police also wanted details of calls made between April 28, when the group arrived in Portugal, and September 9, when the McCanns left the country to return to their home in Rothley, Leicestershire.
Judge Fernando Ribeiro Cardoso refused the request for the calls and texts, and in his written judgement revealed the directions of the continuing investigation.
He wrote: 'In the case files pending in the Public Prosecution Services... they are investigating the disappearance of M.M. and the eventual carrying out of the crimes of abduction, homicide, exposure or abandonment of a child and concealment of a corpse.'
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[size=60]Gerry and Kate McCann's fury after 14 texts slur[/size]
- 00:00, 29 MAY 2008
Gerry McCann reacted angrily yesterday to claims he received a string of mystery texts the day before his daughter vanished.
Police applied to Portugal's supreme court to seize his phone records after learning of the alleged messages.
They claim Gerry was sent 10 texts from an unknown number 24 hours before Madeleine disappeared.
And detectives say four messages arrived from the same mystery number the day after she went missing, according to court documents.
But Gerry and wife Kate have dismissed the claims as "utter rubbish".
A source close to them said: "They have had their phone records available for inspection for months. But the police never asked for them. And now they have formally asked, they have been refused.
"Any suggestion of Gerry receiving 10 texts the day before Madeleine disappeared are utter rubbish.
"He hardly used his phone during the holiday and most of the friends with them didn't even have mobiles.
"The only time his phone rang was when work called and he explained he was on holiday. There are no mystery texts. Gerry has nothing to hide. It's yet more nonsense coming from Portugal."
Police also applied to see the phone records of the friends that Gerry and Kate were on holiday with.
But Portugal's supreme court yesterday issued a detailed ruling rejecting the application. It is believed detectives waited too long to request the records and that accessing them could breach privacy laws. A local judge had already turned down the application.
As part of the ruling, it emerged for the first time that the McCanns are being investigated for manslaughter.
It is the first time official paperwork has been made public in the year-long investigation into the five-year-old's disappearance from Praia da Luz.
The 5,000-word ruling also reveals that police are investigating the McCanns for "exposure, abandonment and concealment of a corpse".
Kate and Gerry recently claimed police do not officially suspect them - even though they are both still "arguidos".
McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "They are not officially suspected of any crime.
"Nor have they been accused of any crime."
Maddy has been missing for 392 days
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Re: Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by Guest 03.01.16 20:30
Yep.
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by willowthewisp 05.01.16 14:31
Looks as though the 81 G4S and 31 Maddie cops may have not noticed the text messages that Gerry did or didn't receive on his mobile phone and the reproduction of the redacted numbers have been overlooked in the vast amount of paper work they had to decipher eh, Nicola, "I nick erm before they know they're nicked" Wall. Not in this case?BlueBag wrote:Yep.
Now they have G4S to use as a scapegoat for Operation Grange?
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Re: Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by worriedmum 05.01.16 23:43
Is any one else surprised at Kate's behaviour in this interview?
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Re: Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by Ashwarya 06.01.16 12:56
Kate's behaviour in the video clip is truly gobsmacking, rivalled only by the "Whoosh cluck" moment in the Jon Corner video (Panorama) where I think most people concluded she must be on some kind of medication. These glimpses of her behaviour are inappropriate on so many levels it is hard to know where to begin, and when you remember this was in the early days where surely the loss of the child would still be raw and physically painful to endure it is doubly incredible.
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Re: Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by worriedmum 06.01.16 15:08
Please some-one explain to me why the fact that there were deleted text messages WHICH WERE DENIED TO EXIST, IN AN INTERVIEW RECORDED FOR ALL TO SEE, is not of interest to a 12 million pound police investigation examining the disappearance of a three year old child?
WHY NOT?
WHY NOT?
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Re: Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by Joss 07.01.16 15:22
Exactly. I would imagine because the whole fiasco is to deflect from the Truth. To protect the McC's from any kind of prosecution at all costs, and the costs have been huge for the british taxpayer, but even more costly for any type of justice for an innocent little girl,worriedmum wrote:Please some-one explain to me why the fact that there were deleted text messages WHICH WERE DENIED TO EXIST, IN AN INTERVIEW RECORDED FOR ALL TO SEE, is not of interest to a 12 million pound police investigation examining the disappearance of a three year old child?
WHY NOT?
All IMO.
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Re: Public Prosecutor applied to Supreme Court for info on Deleted Text Messages ONE MONTH before PJ Final Report
by Sophiebubbles 07.01.16 17:46
Joss wrote:Exactly. I would imagine because the whole fiasco is to deflect from the Truth. To protect the McC's from any kind of prosecution at all costs, and the costs have been huge for the british taxpayer, but even more costly for any type of justice for an innocent little girl,worriedmum wrote:Please some-one explain to me why the fact that there were deleted text messages WHICH WERE DENIED TO EXIST, IN AN INTERVIEW RECORDED FOR ALL TO SEE, is not of interest to a 12 million pound police investigation examining the disappearance of a three year old child?
WHY NOT?
@ worriedmum........Your post above is exactly along the lines of what I was about to post......Aahhhh! so so sickened by being fobbed off............THESE ARE DEFINITE LIES which Mr McCann has been caught out on......not just heresay......He is on video saying there were no texts, there is evidence there were...........
@ Joss..... It goes without saying that the whole fiasco is to stop any truth of anything coming out (about anything).....at the moment, taking away the money side of the case and the lack of justice for the little one Madeleine....WHY as worriedmum asked and as I was a hairsbreadth away from asking also are the BLATANT lies ignored so publicly and so arrogantly as if us plebs were not worthy or even more demeaning, treated as if we did not have a brain cell amongst us.
obviously this question was not directed at you....but given the fact you did answer, am I mssing your point of logic to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]'s (and my own) point. I apologise if I am not at my sharpest of mindset tonight and no offence meant, your answer just seemed so obvious....as this is indeed (only one of the many) lies which are just brushed aside....surely this cannot be allowed to happen in front of our eyes and ears....Do You or anyone else for that matter think we HAVE TO PUT UP AND SHUT UP
IJUST CANNOT BELIEVE HOW BLATANT THEY ARE in the deceitfulness of it all (imo)
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