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Mrs Pamela Fenn's Witness Statement of 20th August 2007...

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Post by Verdi on 13.05.19 22:43

Pamela Fenn's witness statement - 20th August 2007

She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger.

Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?, the witness had no doubt that the noise came from the floor below.

At about 23.45, an hour and fifteen minutes after the crying began, she heard the parents arrive, she did not see them, but she heard the patio doors open, she was quite worried as the crying had gone on for more than an hour and had gradually got worse....

As soon as the parents entered the child stopped crying.
That night she contacted a friend called EDNA GLYN, who also lives in Praia da Luz, after 23.00, telling her about the situation, who was not surprised at the childs crying.


So alarmed was Pamela Fenn about the incident, it didn't occur to her to mention it to the police during their routine door to door inquiries - instead she waited for over three months? If Pamela Fenn had mentioned the incident to the police following the incident, they would most certainly have been interested.

There were other guests accommodated around apartment 5a, didn't anyone else hear a child crying hysterically?

Something doesn't add up.

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Post by Phoebe on 14.05.19 0:29

We have no way of knowing what Mrs Fenn did or did not tell the police when they first spoke to her. There is no information whatsoever about the content of this informal questioning. She may well have mentioned hearing a child cry two days before the "abduction" occurred. It wouldn't be immediately pertinent to a crime which occurred two days later, nor would it help the police in their investigation of Tannerman or Krowkoski which was their immediate concern after Madeleine vanished. 
They did not formally question the Moyes, who were also in residence on that night, but they were interested in speaking to Mrs Fenn again formally. Obviously, they felt she had useful information, although she had nothing to tell them about the night of the "abduction".
Martin Grime arrived with Eddie and Keela on July 30th '07 and carried out their examination of 5A on July 31st. Their findings changed the course of the investigation and led Dr. Amaral and his team to suspect that Madeleine had died, possibly as a result of a fall from the back of the sofa. In this scenario, a witness who could testify that the children were NOT all safely sound asleep during their parent's nightly Tapas meals (as was claimed by the McCanns) was certainly of interest as the police began to pursue this angle of investigation. It makes sense that they would THEN ask Mrs. Fenn to make a formal statement which would confirm this.
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Post by Verdi on 14.05.19 1:06

You just make it up as you go along don't you Phoebe.

I really can't be bothered with your constant baseless rambling.  I'll leave you to it, it's all an unnecessary distraction and I've got more important things to attend to.

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Post by Verdi on 14.05.19 17:20

Question number 11 - to add to the 10 REASONS WHICH SUGGEST THAT PAMELA FENN DID NOT HEAR ANY CHILD CRYING ON TUESDAY 1 MAY 2007

Why didn't the child crying within apartment 5a, presumed to have been Madeleine, wake the other two children said to be in the same room/apartment?

A three year old crying loudly and expressively, as described by Pamela Fenn, would almost certainly be heard in the immediate vicinity but there is no record of any witness to verify the claim - what then of the twins?  Why were they not disturbed by the loud expressive crying coming from the same apartment they were allegedly sleeping?

If the child crying was Madeleine, as implied by Mr Fenn in her statement given on 20th August 2007, logic dictates she couldn't have been sedated so surely it can't be assumed that the twins were sedated but not Madeleine.  Were they even there?

Mrs Fenn states that the crying ceased when the parents returned to the apartment, this cannot be taken as evidence as there is no way she could have known it was the parents returning, she is presuming.  She heard the patio door open-close, she must therefore have known that the McCanns left their children in an unlocked apartment every night - or at least on the night of the alleged crying incident. It could have been anyone entering or leaving the apartment, yet it didn't occur to Mrs Fenn to mention it to the police during their routine door to door inquiries?

I don't believe the McCanns left their three children unattended every night, let alone in an apartment with an unlocked door, nor do I believe the story of the crying incident as reported over three months later by resident Pamela Fenn.

Just why would any parent in their right mind, leave a child or children alone in an unlocked apartment?

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye

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Post by Phoebe on 15.05.19 0:03

As parents know, some children are capable of sleeping through all manner of noise and commotion. At night in countries like Spain and Portugal etc. it is quite common to see children remain fast asleep in buggies while parents eat at outdoor restaurants, go to "midnight markets" or watch parades etc. during fiesta time. One of my own children was like this. He managed to sleep through a crowded festival with a firework display, cannon fire and a noisy throng on two successive occasions - and he wasn't even in a buggy - he just stretched out on the seating, fell sound asleep and didn't awaken even when being carried home.
The Moyes were not in residence IIRC on May 1st and next door to the McCann apartment were the Oldfields then the O' Briens who were down at the Tapas bar. Mrs. Fenn was the sole resident in situ near enough to hear crying coming from directly beneath her. It was off season and there were few people around. It was also quite late with the crying only beginning at 10.30 p.m.
Again, we have NO Idea what Mrs Fenn did or did not mention to police during her initial questioning. To state that she did or did not mention something is speculation.
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