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Confusion could be a synonym for McCann. Fractured camps, endless regurgitation of theories and now divided speculation in respect of Mitchell's latest press release. If you have three apples and four oranges how long is a piece of string ? That might as well be the equation we need to solve the puzzle if we follow the trail so far laid.

Mitchell's statement if nothing else has given us confirmation of what many of us knew already, that the McCann couple are being financially rewarded for playing an exceptional part in voraciously defending the certainty of abduction of their daughter by a stranger or strangers unknown. The transfer of monies from the fund to their private account has raised no eyebrows in the press. Surely, when the line spun for the last 8+ years has been that every penny raised by bake sales in schools or cheques in plain envelopes marked ' Kate & Gerry Rothley' were going to finance the search for Madeleine, some bright journalist would ask why there was a need to move money to a private, unaccountable repository ? In effect duplicating the publicly advertised aims of the fund regardless of what the fine print states.

This latest little gem was running in tandem with a public debate as to whether Operation Grange had run its course.

Various factions were rolled out to discuss the futile continuation of a publicly funded search that has seemingly yielded not one step further to solving this mystery. Such media debates, particularly when financially driven are a stroke of PR genius. What better way to make the public believe they actually have their opinion taken into account in matters that, if not already decided are very close to resolution by those in control. Do not read anything into statements made even by the most senior members of this investigation. The real players are in the shadows.

This could not work better for the McCanns . One magazine actually ran a poll asking whether or not the police investigation should be shut down. Cue The Official Find Madeleine Facebook page urging its numerous followers to vote. 'No ! Please continue the search for our precious child'. Petitions, opinion polls and the like, no matter how many signatures they may garner have no influence on policy decisions made by governments or corporations and only serve as a conduit for the public to vent on subjects they feel passionate about. And they don't come more passionate than opposing views regarding the direction this investigation is going. It is a rare event that even a private business is shamed into a volte -face due to public opinion.

I'm sure Kate and Gerry, presumably no longer having the ear of Scotland Yard would like nothing more than to see the investigation closed down but by making a public show of wringing hands, seemingly begging the authorities not to give up on Madeleine they are in a win win situation, for now. Even if Operation Grange continued indefinitely both know Madeleine will not be found. Nor, unless a patsy is found will the perpetrators, and presumably, even they know if the latter were to be the outcome it would have happened by now.

Is this yet another duplicitous move by the doctors and their advisors? Yes, but I believe they are making the best of the deal handed to them by those calling the shots, in other words playing the game, endeavouring to stick to a script that is becoming more and more uncertain to them having been subject to so many rewrites.

I read the comments made here and in other places and I am amazed that most seem to be still labouring under the impression that Kate & Gerry are criminal geniuses controlling every move, press release and sound bite issued forth on this story. Everyone's favourite blogger and expert word meister recently wrote 'This is THEIR time This is THEIR rules' ( my capitals ). What a chuckle. I would like to see such assertions qualified. It doesn't take Hercule Poirot to deduce that if Mr & Mrs McCann were running the show it certainly wouldn't be drawing headlines eight years on. Wouldn't it have been more advantageous to have pocketed the proceeds from the book deal and serialisation fees and sailed off onto the sunset?

The McCann child went missing and those responsible are being protected. For now at least those are the only definite facts here. That Kate and Gerry are calling the shots, no. There is no way on this earth that two insignificant doctors and their holiday companions would be protected by the full might of the British government. Some other event was happening in Praia de Luz that week and that some of those in attendance were powerful movers and shakers who needed to be protected at all costs. For those of you who have yet to read Textusa I urge you to visit the blog where all will become clear.

Madeleine most likely died as a result of an accident sometime on 3 May 2007. To insist that it was prior to this date does not explain the absolute chaos that ensued that evening following the 'discovery' that she had gone. What did happen was that Gerry immediately went into self preservation mode not yet aware that he would be aided and abetted and ultimately controlled by those that needed to protect their own self interests. If this were Star Wars Kate & Gerry would be billed as Ewok #1 & #2. Hans Solo has yet to be unmasked if indeed he ever is. Are we to believe a group of 30 something doctors had the wherewithal, nous and contacts to summon a group of legal experts to the table within four days, let alone induce them to travel to another country.

While the Tapas 9 were running around like headless chickens on the night of 3rd May desperately trying to convince everyone they had been the victim of a heinous crime, wheels were already in motion and the damage limitation plans were already being drawn up. A person or persons unknown, in attendance, having got wind of the event was immediately ensuring personal anonymity was guaranteed. Once Gerry was informed he would be receiving assistance to extricate from the mess the demeanour of the group changed. No more wailing Arabs or frantic phone calls. They were not alone.
You have no doubt read that The Telegraph reported the abduction at 12.01 on 4 May, online. This is taken as proof that the McCanns had contacted their influential press connections. But take a closer look ~

12:01AM BST 04 May 2007 Comments

A three-year-old British girl has gone missing while on a family holiday in Portugal, the Foreign Office said today.
Portuguese police are investigating the disappearance from a holiday complex in Praia da Luz in the western Algarve.

~ A Foreign Office spokesman said that he understood the girl's parents had gone to have dinner once their children were asleep last night, but returned to check on them only to find the girl had gone missing.

"They reported it straight away," he said, adding that consular assistance was being offered. ~

The Foreign Office is not noted for knee jerk reactions and even if the Mccanns had managed to make contact immediately would any civil servant worth his or her salt take the word of holiday makers that an abduction had in fact taken place?

Indeed within two hours would it be apparent that the child was not going to be found asleep in a bush having wandered from the holiday apartment? And then we have to factor in the time. I doubt very much the decision to issue an official press release is taken by the junior who drew the short straw to answer the embassy phones approaching the witching hour. There is protocol observe, channels to go through, responsibility to be taken for any repercussions.

''A Foreign Office spokesman'' ''Consular assistance was being offered''

That Gerry is full of his own self importance and labours under the belief that he can totally control any situation was a fortunate happenstance for those really running the show. He took to the task in hand like a duck to water. Kate though, is a different story. Although playing along we get glimpses of a woman tormented not only by the loss of her child but by the fact that she knows what happened and is unable to say. This I believe is why, in frustration she sometimes vents with such venom, almost giving the game away.

And so began the game. Any conspiracy, and this is a conspiracy to mislead, needs to lay false trails. It does not take a detective's mind to see something is very wrong in the official story as reported and those in control know that members of the public will start digging in the hope of exposing the whole dirty little secret. Cue the false trails. This serves two purposes. One, it concentrates dissent in the wrong direction and creates a diversion in that there will always be factions of supposedly the same side who will disagree with each other. Two, it leads the trail away from the very real evidence that cannot be hidden but remains hidden from all but the very tenacious ( Again, see Textusa and the booking sheet analysis ). Another useful by product is the polarisation of differing public camps which we have seen, particularly lately ensures much time and energy is expended arguing with each other, voraciously defending their respective moral assertions.

What is important to remember is that anything seemingly revelatory that may be uncovered is almost certain to be as much a false trail as the more obvious. The detail and answer to any puzzle is usually to found in the mundane but human nature being what it is, it always wants the dirt, is always on the look out for scandal to explain any perceived cover up. Make no mistake, we only find that which we presume is the key if it is wanting to be easily found. Do not labour under the illusion that those controlling the play are inept enough to overlook anything that may be a game changer. Take the WBM discussion. Even supposing that it did grab prior to the 3rd May and there was a pre planned 'abduction', are we to seriously believe that this would be overlooked and left up for anyone to stumble upon?

A perfect example is the much discussed paedophile angle and the vilification of Doctor David Payne. Indeed the constant discussions and accusations lead me to believe that some seeking the answer to Madeleine's disappearance will be disappointed if the reason for the protection does not lead to an high level paedophile gang. But it wont because it isn't the reason.

Step back, take a considered look at the evidence and what have we got ? Nothing .

This angle is seen as proof positive because of the seemingly damning evidence given by social worker in attendance, Yvonne Martin. I am not going into a detailed analysis of what is so wrong with the content of her statement but do we really think a veteran of child protection cannot recall whether a face she is familiar with from the course of her work is a dangerous child abuser or a protector ? Ridiculous ! That she was so adamant in impressing the P word on the PJ should also ring alarm bells. A professional, however subtle she thinks she was being, does not condemn such vile suspicions on anyone without proof positive. If this is how she works I fear for those she comes into professional contact with.

But some cry, we have the Gaspar statements also. And I would say to this do we really to believe a female doctor who in her capacity as care giver, would fail to alert the authorities immediately if she had the slightest suspicion that a child was in danger ?

I'm not even going to try and explain the CATS file. I have lost count the times I have seen reasoned explanation posted and ignored.

So let us add it all up. CATS, Gaspar, Ms Martin. Yes it all falls into place. Except it doesn't. If paedophilia were the reason Madeleine met her death in PDL and someone important needed protecting it would be the easiest thing in the world to find a culprit to take the blame. Even Payne could take the bullet. No matter how much he protested his innocence he would have no way to fight a concerted plan to pin the blame on him. Wouldn't this be the easiest end to the whole sorry mess?
The above 'clues', just a small part of the deception are nothing more than a distraction, a very successful distraction .

Whoever decided to muddy the waters with this one must pat themselves on the back every time they visit the internet.

We as those who seek to decipher the clues must distance ourselves from the emotional. Didn't Gerry once say ''Confusion is good '' ? Let us ignore the confusion.

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Post by Tony Bennett 14.09.15 23:13

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Madeleine most likely died as a result of an accident sometime on 3 May 2007. To insist that it was prior to this date does not explain the absolute chaos that ensued that evening following the 'discovery' that she had gone...
Erm,

1. Complete lack of Madeleine's DNA in Apt G5A
2. No photos of Madeleine certain to have been taken after Sunday 29 April
3. Probable date of 'Last Photo' Sunday 29 April
4. Timelines ready for the PJ with Jane Tanner seeing the abductor at 9.20pm
5. Useful media contacts lined up to get the story the top news item by lunch-time the next day
6. Certain mobile 'phones being switched off during Wednesday and Thursday
7. Murat summoned on Monday 30 April to get post haste to Praia da Luz
8. Murat's stream of lies about what he was really doing on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday that week 
9. McCanns decide to have meals in their apartment from Monday morning onwards
10. Nanny's story about the 'high tea' on Thursday 3 May at 5.30 full of contradictions
11. Top police officers, ambassadors and clutch of PR men arrive the very next day    
12. Total contradiction between David Payne and Kate McCann versions of Payne's alleged visit to G5A at 6.30pm, 3 May

Mention might also be made of these observations:

13. McCanns' initial claims - 'stolen by paedophiles'
14. Repeated emphasis by McCann Team for many years that Madeleine may have been snatched by a paedophile gang
15. Jim Gamble and CEOP roped in from Day One - ask for holiday photographs 
16. Less than a week after Madeleine is reported missing, paedophile expert writes long article in Daily Telegraph assuming Madeleine was snatched by paedophiles (see also point 29)   
17. Heavy emphasis for two years on paedophile Raymond Hewlett being the chief suspect 
18. Active CEOP campaign to support McCanns
19. Jim Gamble makes one minute 'viral video' in support of McCanns
20. Jim Gamble invites Gerry McCann to make keynote speech at conference on paedophilia, January 2010
21. The evidence of Dr Katharina Gaspar
22. The evidence of Dr Arul Gaspar
23. The alleged sexual history of Robert Murat by Carlos Costa
24. Second witness says Murat has child sexual abuse on his computer 
25. Unexplained encrypted material on Murat's computer 
26. Police told that Murat friend had child sexual abuse on his computer - hard drive destroyed before police could get to it
27. Jim Gamble and CEOP roped in to prepare 'scoping report' for possible Met Police Review    
28. McCanns publish video with image of Madeleine looking sad and with make-up probably applied by an adult - video supported by Jim Gamble
29. McCanns have dinner with Ray Wyre and his wife; Wyre is alleged expert on paedophiles and got his patients/clients them to adopt bizarre sexual practices

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Post by ROSA 15.09.15 3:10

Contradictions ?

Madeleine most likely died as a result of an accident sometime on 3 May 2007. To insist that it was prior to this date does not explain the absolute chaos that ensued that evening following the 'discovery' that she had gone. What did happen was that Gerry immediately went into self preservation mode not yet aware that he would be aided and abetted and ultimately controlled by those that needed to protect their own self interests. If this were Star Wars Kate & Gerry would be billed as Ewok #1 & #2. Hans Solo has yet to be unmasked if indeed he ever is. Are we to believe a group of 30 something doctors had the wherewithal, nous and contacts to summon a group of legal experts to the table within four days, let alone induce them to travel to another country.

While the Tapas 9 were running around like headless chickens on the night of 3rd May desperately trying to convince everyone they had been the victim of a heinous crime, wheels were already in motion and the damage limitation plans were already being drawn up. A person or persons unknown, in attendance, having got wind of the event was immediately ensuring personal anonymity was guaranteed. Once Gerry was informed he would be receiving assistance to extricate from the mess the demeanour of the group changed. No more wailing Arabs or frantic phone calls. They were not alone.
You have no doubt read that The Telegraph reported the abduction at 12.01 on 4 May, online. This is taken as proof that the McCanns had contacted their influential press connections. But take a closer look ~

Chaos explained ,desperately trying to convince everyone....
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Post by Angelique 15.09.15 6:45

"Whoever decided to muddy the waters with this one must pat themselves on the back every time they visit the internet."

This is what I believe Sonia Poulton is all about.

You can't run with the hare and hunt with the hounds.

Professing to make an 'expose' on the disappearance of Madeleine whilst being in the pay of Murdoch was just to stir things up.

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Post by Carrry On Doctor 15.09.15 7:25

A very good article, and I agree with most of it but not the date. I'm with Tony on that one for the reasons he has set out above.
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Post by Tony Bennett 15.09.15 7:33

Angelique wrote:"Whoever decided to muddy the waters with this one must pat themselves on the back every time they visit the internet."

This is what I believe Sonia Poulton is all about.

You can't run with the hare and hunt with the hounds.

Professing to make an 'expose' on the disappearance of Madeleine whilst being in the pay of Murdoch was just to stir things up.
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Post by guest12345 15.09.15 9:57

IMO...

If Payne and the gasper statements were genuine and of concern, the McCanns and the police would've put David in the firing line to take the wrap for the disappearance/murder/abuse/other and it would've all been wrapped up nicely. They certainly wouldn't remain friends with him after the first gasper incident, never mind after Madeleine went missing. Red herring.

Regarding the protection of the McCanns, i do not think they are protected as much as people think. I suspect in the early days yes, friends were called in to do favours..media, political pals etc, but as events unfolded, i think most have backed off.

IMO CEOP and other agencies were so quick to react as they already had intelligence of activities taking place in the area and hadn't controlled the situation very well, leading to the unfortunate demise of Madeleine. This, i believe is why the McCanns etc keep stating pedophile activity...because they have been told that based on the intelligence and evidence they have on file.

Problem the McCanns have is they need to maintain the story that she is alive, but 'snatched by' a pedophile, as this keeps the charade going regarding the small window of opportunity and thus them leaving her in the apartment 'within the bounds of good parenting' which means they cannot be charged with neglect and they can discredit the cadaver etc. 

However, if her body turns up, or the guilty party cracks and confesses, the PJ can then confirm they were not checking the kids and charge them with death by neglect, which carries a big sentence in Portugal.

I do not believe for one minute that any of the police forces or agencies involved actually like the McCanns, how they are spinning stories, living a lie and as the title of this thread says....confusing matters.
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Post by Carrry On Doctor 15.09.15 10:18

guest12345 wrote:IMO...

If Payne and the gasper statements were genuine and of concern, the McCanns and the police would've put David in the firing line to take the wrap for the disappearance/murder/abuse/other and it would've all been wrapped up nicely. They certainly wouldn't remain friends with him after the first gasper incident, never mind after Madeleine went missing. Red herring.

Regarding the protection of the McCanns, i do not think they are protected as much as people think. I suspect in the early days yes, friends were called in to do favours..media, political pals etc, but as events unfolded, i think most have backed off.

IMO CEOP and other agencies were so quick to react as they already had intelligence of activities taking place in the area and hadn't controlled the situation very well, leading to the unfortunate demise of Madeleine. This, i believe is why the McCanns etc keep stating pedophile activity...because they have been told that based on the intelligence and evidence they have on file.

Problem the McCanns have is they need to maintain the story that she is alive, but 'snatched by' a pedophile, as this keeps the charade going regarding the small window of opportunity and thus them leaving her in the apartment 'within the bounds of good parenting' which means they cannot be charged with neglect and they can discredit the cadaver etc. 

However, if her body turns up, or the guilty party cracks and confesses, the PJ can then confirm they were not checking the kids and charge them with death by neglect, which carries a big sentence in Portugal.

I do not believe for one minute that any of the police forces or agencies involved actually like the McCanns, how they are spinning stories, living a lie and as the title of this thread says....confusing matters.

Snatched by a Paedophile was the hypothesis put forward from the very outset (well....as of May 3rd).

If you are correct about this theme being based on intelligence, then this would suggest that they had this knowledge prior to the 3rd, which is in keeping with an incident happening earlier in the week, giving time for weighing up of the situation and a degree of planning.

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Post by Richard IV 15.09.15 10:24

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"IMO CEOP and other agencies were so quick to react as they already had intelligence of activities taking place in the area and hadn't controlled the situation very well, leading to the unfortunate demise of Madeleine. This, i believe is why the McCanns etc keep stating pedophile activity...because they have been told that based on the intelligence and evidence they have on file."


The most likely scenario all things considered IMO
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Post by guest12345 15.09.15 13:33

Carrry On Doctor wrote:

If you are correct about this theme being based on intelligence, then this would suggest that they had this knowledge prior to the 3rd, which is in keeping with an incident happening earlier in the week, giving time for weighing up of the situation and a degree of planning.

IMO

'snatched by a pedophile' was a hypothesis put forward by the family based on the short time window they were telling the police (though in reality weren't checking on the kids at all). They have to go with this to keep them safe from any neglect charges/public outcry. 

IMO it became very clear very early on to the relevant agencies that no checking was happening and that the likelihood of her being alive and 'snatched' quickly was practically zero (which was subsequently backed up by cadaver scent). The tapas group were equally as negligent and their cobbled together stories about the evenings child checks etc were quickly discredited as useless (until neglect charges are put forward, then the discrepancies will be used to highlight the neglect on all counts).

With regard to the knowledge prior to the 3rd, I would think they have lots of information about lots of pedophiles, their activities and plans as that's what CEOP do/their purpose. 

However, i think you are meaning that she died prior to the 3rd and a cleanup was planned?? (apologies if i have that wrong). I for one certainly don't believe Madeleine met her demise prior to the 3rd May. What i meant in my last post was that certain pedophiles were being tracked prior to the 3rd and they weren't intercepted (or couldn't be as they hadn't actually committed a new offence).

Then when word got back to CEOP that there had been an incident in Luz involving a child...it was all hands to the pump and get on the quickest plane out there.
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