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WAS JIM GAMBLE A CORRUPT POLICE OFFICER IN NORTHERN IRELAND? – AND DID HE AUTHORISE OR COVER UP MURDERS?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.07.15 10:10

WAS JIM GAMBLE A CORRUPT POLICE OFFICER IN NORTHERN IRELAND? – AND DID HE AUTHORISE OR COVER UP MURDERS?

A LOOK AT THE FINDINGS OF OPERATION BALLAST

First of all, a short biography

From Wikipedia:

“Earlier in his career he was Head of the Northern Ireland Anti-Terrorist Intelligence Unit in Belfast, then Deputy Director General (with the rank of Deputy Chief Constable) of the National Crime Squad, which, in April 2006, merged into the Serious Organised Crime Agency. He was also the Head of the Belfast Region of the Royal Ulster Constabulary’s Special Branch”.

Let there be no doubt whatsoever, then, that Jim Gamble, a long time ago - two to three decades ago, in fact - had, relatively early in his career, risen to one of the most senior roles in the country in the murky and sometimes sinister worlds of intelligence-gathering and Special Branch Operations. 

Those running the governments of the day and their intelligence and security operations must have had a very high degree of trust in him.

Here is an extract from an interview Jim Gamble gave to the Belfast Telegraph about his career:

“My father was in the RAF so I grew up with a service background. The natural progression was into the Army for me. I joined the military police. I was stationed in west Berlin…

"I joined the Royal Ulster Constabulary, then moved on to Special Branch.  When I came back to Northern Ireland it was initially with the bomb squad in a military police role and then I joined the Royal Ulster Constabulary, later  moving on to Special Branch. I went through the ranks to be head of Special Branch in Belfast. As peace was breaking out, I passed the Strategic Command Course and ended up as the Assistant Chief Constable in the National Crime Squad.

“I then became Deputy Director-General of the National Crime Squad. I was asked to build a new organisation called the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP). I resisted it at the beginning, I didn't think it was exactly what I wanted to do, and in the end it was one of the highlights of my career. What I will say is that I have been proud of many of the things I have done in my career and that pride is as strong as anywhere as regard that work we did in RUC Special Branch….every organisation will have bad apples, people who are motivated to do the wrong thing…”

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Jim Gamble and Operation Ore

As we know, Jim Gamble was handed the job of leading one of the most controversial police operations ever to be run in this country: Operation Ore, an investigation into people in the UK accessing child sexual abuse images online.

Operation Ore began in 2002. 

Once again, what Wikipedia has to say on the subject:

“After 2003 Operation Ore came under closer scrutiny, with police forces in the UK being criticised for their handling of the operation. The most common criticism was that they failed to determine whether or not the owners of credit cards in Landslide's database actually accessed any sites containing child porn, unlike in the US where it was determined in advance whether or not credit card subscribers had purchased child porn. Investigative journalist Duncan Campbell exposed these flaws in a series of articles in 2005 and 2007.

“Many of the charges at the Landslide affiliated sites were made using stolen credit card information, and the police arrested the real owners of the credit cards, not the viewers. Thousands of credit card charges were made where there was no access to a site, or access only to a dummy site. When the police checked, seven years after Operation Ore commenced, they found 54,348 occurrences of stolen credit card information in the Landslide database. The British police failed to provide this information to the defendants, and in some cases implied that they had checked and found no evidence of credit card fraud when no such check had been done. Because of the nature of the charges, children were removed from homes immediately. In the two years it took the police to determine that thousands had been falsely accused, over 100 children had been removed from their homes and denied any unsupervised time with their fathers. The arrests also led to an estimated 33 suicides by 2007.

“One man was charged when the sole ‘suspicious’ image in his possession was of young-looking - but adult - actress Melissa Ashley. Also arrested were Massive Attack’s Robert Del Maja (later cleared) and The Who’s  guitarist, who was cautioned by the police after acknowledging a credit card access to the Landslide website. Duncan Campbell later stated in PC Pro  magazine that their credit card charges and IP addresses were traced through the Landslide site, and both were found to have accessed sites which had nothing to do with child pornography. The actor and writer Chris Langham was among those convicted.

“Independent investigators later obtained both the database records and video of the Landslide raid. When this information was presented in a UK court, Michael Mead of the United States Postal Service contradicted his US testimony under oath regarding several details relating to the investigation. As a result of the errors exposed in the cases, some people arrested in Operation Ore filed a group action lawsuit in 2006 against the detectives behind Operation Ore, alleging false arrest”.

I will add in here what Jim Gamble said to the Belfast Telegraph about how he came to lead - or rather, ‘review’ – Operation Ore, and become the Head of CEOP: 

"Almost by a quirk of fate one day I was asked to carry out a review of an operation called Operation Ore. Once I completed that review I recommended that because of the complexity of the technology involved, the weight of data coming in, that there needed to be an approach that was child-centred. Within a few days I was appointed as the lead for co-ordination of Operation Ore which for some was seen as contentious. I saw it as a huge success in that identified and located over 100 children and, over the years it unfolded, held more than 2,500 people to account. Having done that I was offered to take on the role setting up what was to become CEOP”.

And so it was that in April 2006, just one year before Madeleine McCann was reported missing, CEOP was formed. Once again, Jim Gamble was entrusted by the powers-that-be with running the entire CEOP operation.

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Was Jim Gamble one of the police officers heavily criticised in the Operation Ballast report by Baroness O’Loan?

On 22 January 2007, Nuala O’Loan (now Baroness O’Loan), Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland, reported on ‘Operation Ballast’, her investigation into alleged complicity by the police and security services in a series of murders between 1991 and 1997. Link here:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcain.ulst.ac.uk%2Fissues%2Fpolice%2Fombudsman%2Fponi220107mccord.pdf&ei=dpiZVYCJG4qqswHhmK-ACg&usg=AFQjCNGEglVfIcTVWbQ3ezsrAOcry23lLg&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg

AFAIK Jim Gamble was right at the heart of security and intelligence operations in Northern Ireland at this time. I believe that McCann Team investigator Dave Edgar was also employed in Northern Ireland at this time.

Topics covered by Baroness O’Loan’s enquiry were: 

1) two attempted murders in 1991.
2) the murder of Sharon McKenna on 17 January 1993.
3) the attempted bombing of the Sinn Fein office in Monaghan on 3 March 1997.
4) the blocking by Special Branch of searches during a pre-planned CID operation intended to disrupt the activities of the UVF.
5) the murder of John Harbinson on 18 May 1997.
6) the murder of Raymond McCord Junior on 9 November 1997.

I now quote from specific sections of Baroness O’Loan’s report. The whole report is an absolutely damning indictment of the activities of the Royal Ulster Constabulary but especially of the intelligence services and Special Branch, the areas for which Jim Gamble had prime responsibility. I could highlight in red the whole of these extracts from Baroness O’Loan’s report, but have just highlighted in red those areas that seem to relate particularly to Gamble’s role:
 
6. We examined Informant 1’s alleged involvement in drug-dealing between 1994 and 2003. 

8. Other issues emerged during the course of the investigation…
 
32.4.  In the absence of any justifiable reason why officers behaved as they did, the Police Ombudsman has identified from police documentation, records and interviews, collusion in the following areas: 

• The failure to arrest informants for crimes to which those informants had allegedly confessed, or to treat such informants as suspects for crime;
By creating interview notes which were deliberately misleading; by failing to record and maintain original interview notes and by failing to record notes of meetings with informants;
• The failure to deal properly with information received from informants, so that informants were able to avoid investigation and detection for crime;
By arresting informants suspected of murder then subjecting them to lengthy sham interviews by their own handlers at which they were not challenged and then releasing them on the authorisation of the handler;
• By not recording in investigation papers the fact that an informant was suspected of a crime despite the fact that he had been arrested and interviewed for that crime;
• By failing to take steps to hinder an attempted bombing by the establishment of an operation either to disrupt or arrest the alleged perpetrators whose names were known to Special Branch;
• By giving instructions to junior officers that records should not be completed, and that there should be no record of the incident concerned;
• By ensuring the absence of any official record linking a Special Branch informant to the possession of explosives which may, and were thought, according to private police records, to have been used in a particular crime;
• By withholding information from CID that the UVF had sanctioned an attack;
• By concealing from CID intelligence that named persons, including an informant or informants, had been involved in particular crimes;
• By withholding information about the location to which a group of murder suspects had allegedly fled after a murder;
• By the concealment on a number of occasions of intelligence indicating that up to three informants had been engaged together in murders and a particular crime or crimes;
• By routinely destroying all Tasking and Co-ordinating Group original documentary records so as to conceal an informant’s involvement in crime;
• By destroying or losing forensic exhibits such as metal bars and tape lifts;
• By not requiring appropriate forensic analysis to be carried out on items submitted to the Forensic Science Service Laboratory;
• By blocking the searches of a police informant’s home and of another location, including an alleged UVF arms dump;
• By not questioning informants about their activities and continuing to employ informants without risk assessing their continued use as informants;
• By finding munitions at an informant’s home and releasing him without charge;
• By not informing local police of an anticipated attack, and not taking any action to prevent the attack;
• By not using the available evidence and intelligence to detect a crime and to link the investigation of crimes in which an informant was a suspect;
• By some Special Branch officers deliberately disregarding a very significant amount of intelligence about informant involvement in drug dealing in Larne, and North Belfast and in punishment attacks linked to drug dealing from 1994 onwards;
• By continuing to employ as informants people suspected of involvement in the most serious crime without assessing the attendant risks or their suitability as informants;
• By not acting on witness and other evidence received in particular crimes when the suspect was an informant;
• By not considering or attempting to conduct identification processes when there was particular evidence from witnesses about a criminal’s appearance;
• By providing at least four misleading and inaccurate confidential documents for possible consideration by the court in relation to four separate incidents and the cases resulting from them, where those documents had the effect of protecting an informant;
• By not informing the Director of Public Prosecutions that an informant was a suspect in a crime in respect of which an investigation file was submitted to the Director;
• By their failure to maintain the record of intelligence which was the basis for applications for extensions of time in detention to the Secretary of State;
• By withholding intelligence from police colleagues including the names of alleged suspects which could have been used to attempt to prevent and to detect crime;
• By the practice of Special Branch not using and following the practice of authorisation of participating informants;
• By completing false and misleading authorisations and reviews of informants for the purposes of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act;
• By cancelling the wanted status of murder suspects “because of lack of resources” and doing nothing further about these suspects;
• This investigation has examined the activities of police officers responsible for informants over a period of twelve years. On only one occasion have PSNI provided any document indicative of consideration of the termination of the relationship which Special Branch had with any of these informants, despite the extent of the alleged involvement of these informants in the most serious of crimes.

32.5. Special Branch systems for information management, dissemination and retention were seriously defective. In effect handlers, and on occasion controllers, determined what information went into such systems as did exist. Those systems which did exist were not effective. 

33.6 There is evidence that information was withheld by handlers. Instructions were given that matters should not be recorded. The general absence of records has prevented senior officers, who clearly have significant responsibility for the failings, from being held to account. It is abundantly clear that this was not an oversight, but was a deliberate strategy and had the effect of avoiding proper accountability. The former ACC Crime Operations has described this situation as one of “plausible deniability”. 

33.8 Police officers at all levels working in Special Branch very often determined the future dissemination, if any, of intelligence held within Special Branch, to officers outside Special Branch. Had the necessary systems of accountability been in place the situation which is described in this Report should not have arisen. However the reality was that a Constable or a Sergeant could, and did, refuse to divulge information even to senior officers, and the mechanisms by which the decisions of individual Special Branch officers could be challenged were not used effectively by senior officers. The Special Branch liaison officer for any particular investigation, who was responsible for the verbal passing of information, was very often the handler of an informant who was a prime suspect for the particular crime. The Police Ombudsman also identified abuses of the existing controls for dissemination which often resulted in the failure to disseminate information at an appropriate time.

There was no documented record of the reasons for the decision making in this area.

8.3. In the course of the investigation the Police Ombudsman sought the cooperation of a number of retired RUC/PSNI senior officers. Officers who were being treated as witnesses were asked to provide an explanation of Special Branch and CID internal practices during this period. Investigators offered to meet retired officers at venues with which they would be comfortable and at times which would suit them. They were advised of the areas of questioning and provided with significant disclosure of information, at their request. The majority of them failed even to reply. This was despite the fact that witness details would be anonomised in any public statement. Amongst those who refused were two retired Assistant Chief Constable’s, seven Detective Chief Superintendent’s and two Detective Superintendent’s.

Some retired officers did assist the investigation, and were helpful...

8.5. Others, including some serving officers, gave evasive, contradictory, and on occasion farcical answers to questions. On occasion those answers indicated either a significant failure to understand the law, or contempt for the law. On other occasions the investigation demonstrated conclusively that what an officer had told the Police Ombudsman’s investigators was completely untrue.

8.6 The evidence indicates that there was a major failure to ensure to ensure the proper management of Informant 1 and other informants…

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So was Jim Gamble instrumental in ordering or authorising people to be murdered? 

In the light of Baroness O’Loan’s report, the question must be asked.

We must also ask if Gamble was one of the police, intelligence and security service officers so severely condemned in this report. 

And as we consider those questions, we need to ask why Jim Gamble was given the task of heading up Operation Ore in 2002 and then entrusted with heading up the brand new government creation of CEOP in 2006. 

Gamble is on record, I believe, as denying that he is ‘named’ in Baroness O’Loan’s damning document. And he is quite right about that. He is not ‘named and shamed’.

But, surely, as the man at the heart of the corrupt, murderous, intelligence, security and Special Branch operations in Northern Ireland, Gamble is also condemned by Baroness O’Loan’s report?

My thesis is that, just like Clarence Mitchell, Jim Gamble is a man who is trusted by those at the very heart of our political establishment to do whatever is necessary.

Is that why both men were handed such key roles in influencing public perception about the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann?



FURTHER READING ON CMOMM: 'JOINED AT THE HIP: Starring the McCanns and Jim Gamble':
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t9342-joined-at-the-hip-starring-the-mccanns-and-jim-gamble

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 Daily Mail journalist Daniel Bates wrote: “Kate and Gerry McCann have released a new picture of their daughter Madeleine as they prepare to commemorate tomorrow’s third anniversary of her disappearance. The photo shows her when she was three after a raid on the dressing-up box. She has a pink bow in her hair and a gold bead necklace and is wearing blue eyeshadow. It was taken weeks before the fateful family holiday to the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz when Madeleine vanished”

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Post by interestedobserver on 07.07.15 11:08

Tony, I think I know where you are going with this.
You are a brave man, be careful, watch your back.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.07.15 11:30

@interestedobserver wrote:Tony, I think I know where you are going with this.
You are a brave man, be careful, watch your back.
The pursuit of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth can be a risky business, in a world in which so many powerful people tell so many big lies.

But I am merely raising some questions about Jim Gamble. He can provide the final answers. 

If he didn't either authorise or cover up murders in Northern Ireland, and if he was not one of those officers deliberately frustrating Baroness O'Loan's enquiry, he can register here and tell us so

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 Daily Mail journalist Daniel Bates wrote: “Kate and Gerry McCann have released a new picture of their daughter Madeleine as they prepare to commemorate tomorrow’s third anniversary of her disappearance. The photo shows her when she was three after a raid on the dressing-up box. She has a pink bow in her hair and a gold bead necklace and is wearing blue eyeshadow. It was taken weeks before the fateful family holiday to the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz when Madeleine vanished”

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Post by sallypelt on 07.07.15 11:59

Let's not forget to add that Jim Gamble, is  "a leading Northern Ireland social media expert" or at least was, according to this article:https: http://www.edwardsandcompany.co.uk/news/82/edwards-and-co-launch-legal-advice-app-the-first-of-its-kind-in-northern-ireland

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Post by sallypelt on 07.07.15 14:01

Where does one start?:

http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2010/04/jim-gamble-judgement-or-agenda.html

Jim Gamble, Peter Hain, Sir Ronnie Flanagan etc. Is it any wonder that we mortals are never going to get to the bottom of this. The whole lot will come crashing down if the truth is ever revealed.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.07.15 14:22

I've been referred to this article on Jim Gamble in a journal called The IT Lawyer:

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http://theitlawyer.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/ceop-jim-gamble-affair.html

Andrew Murray 6.Oct.2010

The CEOP Jim Gamble Affair


I realise I am going to be on very unsteady ground here but I'm usually a straight down the middle guy who doesn't rock the boat so I'm going out on a limb with a slightly controversial piece here.

In the few days since Jim Gamble announced his resignation from his role as Chief Executive of the Child Exploitation and On-Line Protection Centre (CEOP) he has been accorded almost universal adulation by the British Media and has been followed out of the door by three other senior executives at CEOP. To believe the media Mr. Gamble was an irreplaceable hero who single-handedly protected our children from online harm. Here are a selection of stories from the last 48 hours.

"Top Abuse Boss Quitting Puts Kids in Danger" says The Sun;  


"Resignation A Sad Day" says BBC News;  

"Victim's Group Slams Home Secretary"  says the Daily Mail 

and in this week's most tabloid friendly collision of stories

"Kate and Gerry McCann "Very Upset" at Resignation" says the Daily Mail natch.

Now I'm not denying Jim Gamble was/is a man with a mission and a very laudable one at that. His aim is to prevent the abuse of children. This is something which is unarguable and inalienable.

I though have met Mr. Gamble on more than one occasion (and more than two for the wags at the back) and there was something very undesirable about his methods and his message.

In a cry that echoed back to the radical feminist cry "All Men are Rapists", Mr. Gamble in public speeches seemed to suggest that all men were paedophiles. The role of CEOP was to protect children at all costs from these almost primeval urges. He also seemed to be suggesting that only CEOP could fulfil this role in the UK. The view of many in industry and the legal profession is he was an empire builder who had a particularly narrow and skewed view of society and in particular the relationship between adults and children.

I still have a marginal note I made at one of his speeches where I noted down "I am not a paedophile and I resent the implication I am because I happen to be a man."

[REST OF ARTICLE SNIPPED]

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Then there was this article:

Child protection chief in TV probe

The outgoing chief of Britain's child protection agency and the host of US TV show America's Most Wanted posed as paedophiles to investigate the sex trafficking of Cambodian youngsters.

PUBLISHED: 03:32, Sat, Nov 13, 2010 | UPDATED: 00:02, Sun, Nov 14, 2010

Jim Gamble took part in an investigation into the sex trafficking of Cambodian children for a US TV [PA].

Jim Gamble, ex-chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), and John Walsh said they were shocked when they went into a Cambodian bar where there were 50 to 60 girls.

Mr Walsh said: "Within two minutes a madam came up to us and said, 'What are you looking for?' and Mr Gamble said: 'We're looking for young girls.' She brought over three or four girls that were (about) 12 or 13 years old - very, very young."

Mr Gamble told her they wanted younger girls, Mr Walsh said. He said the woman replied: "What do you want? We have six and seven-year-old boys and girls. I can arrange that off premises."

Mr Walsh said the experience was "disgusting and heartbreaking".

He said Western paedophiles from the US, Britain and Germany travelled east to Cambodia as international sex tourists.

He said his show chose Cambodia because it is cheap to buy a sex slave there.

"I saw many Western men that had come there not to go to the Buddhist temples, not to come there to look at the beaches, not to do anything at all but to molest and have sex with children. It's wrong, it's illegal and it has to change," Mr Walsh said.

He said the episode would be a "tough show to watch, but it is important to expose the reality that children are sexually assaulted by predators.

Senior police officer Mr Gamble, the former head of Northern Ireland's anti-terror unit, resigned from Ceop in October over the Government's decision to make it part of the National Crime Agency.

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And this jaunt to Cambodia achieved precisely what?
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Post by sallypelt on 07.07.15 14:47

"Mr. Gamble in public speeches seemed to suggest that all men were paedophiles"

In fairness to JG, it doesn't appear that he actually said those words. However, if he was IMPLYING that "all men are paedophiles" in what category does JG put himself?

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Post by sallypelt on 07.07.15 15:17

All the below is snipped from this link:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Operation.Ore.Truth.Out.htm

Sam Type Celt expert used by NCS / SOCA in court
Q. Right. So which files had been accessed or altered or modified?
A. I haven't got a specific list. Some were accessed, very few were modified. They were dotted all over the computer. There were various ones.




Here we have a contradiction. If very few files had been modified by US law enforcement, how could they be dotted all over the computer?



We could of course continue, but it is evidentially established, that a serious and organized deception was in play, and significant contributors included:
US - Robert C Adams (USPIS), Michael E Mead (USPIS), Ray Smith (USPIS), Steven A Nelson (Dallas PD), Bill Walsh (Dallas PD), John Ashcroft (US GOV), Mike Marshall (TX STATE/Microsoft), William Rector (TX STATE/SEC), Kenneth C Weaver (USPIS), Don Smiddy (USPIS), Frank Super (FBI).

UK - HMIC Sir Ronnie Flanagan, Bill Hughes (SOCA), Jim Gamble (SOCA), Trevor Pearce (SOCA), Stuart Hyde (WMP/SOCA), Paul Griffiths (GMP/SOCA), Andrew Mulholland (SOCA), Sir Stephen Lander (SOCA), DAC Alan Given (MPS), DS Peter Suggett (MPS),  HOPS DS John Levett (MPS), DCI Dave McDonald-Payne (MPS), DAC Rose Fitzpatrick (MPS), DS Tony Evans (MPS), Chief Constable Barbara Wilding (SWP), Chief Constable Carole Howlett (Norfolk Police), Adam Hinks (IPCC), Nick Hardwick (IPCC Chair), John Wadham (IPCC Deputy Chair), Mehmuda Mian-Pritchard (IPCC), David Petch (IPCC), John Carr (CHIS/GOV/IWF/NCH/SOCA), Tony Blair (GOV), Brian E Underhill (SOCA PE), Nicholas A Webber (SOCA PE), Dr Sam Type (SOCA PE), Dr Nick Sharples (SOCA PE), Dr Andrew Blyth (SWP PE), Paul Webb SWP, Chief Inspector Cheryl Jones (SWP), John Polychronakis (WMPA)

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Post by Cheshire Cat on 07.07.15 22:21

Exaro, a few months ago, featured comments from a 'private' web forum where former police officers discussed child abuse investigations within the context of political pressure.

He is the link:

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5429/protected-paedophile-mps-and-prominent-people-say-police

Just over halfway down a former Met officer 'Frank' states that "Operation Ore had its wings clipped from the beginning. It's time to remove all political interference and take the gloves off".

JG has positioned himself as an expert in CSA and both Tom Watson and Simon Danzcuk obviously trust and admire his advice and strategies as they have provided links to articles and statements by JG. Jim has also attended at least one CSA Survivor meeting. Difficult to reconcile his Ore role with his current work!
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Post by NickE on 08.07.15 19:54

Tweet from Gamble yesterday:
"Knowledge is power,& knowledge abt secrets of powerful people is real power".



What does he mean?

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Post by sallypelt on 08.07.15 20:00

@NickE wrote:Tweet from Gamble yesterday:
"Knowledge is power,& knowledge abt secrets of powerful people is real power".


What does he mean?

It's the glue that holds this stinking, filthy, corrupt establishment together!

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 08.07.15 20:20

@NickE wrote:Tweet from Gamble yesterday:
"Knowledge is power,& knowledge abt secrets of powerful people is real power".



What does he mean?

If it wasn't for "powerful people" being mentioned I would say it was a threat to those looking into him. I therefore guess he has dirt on people that gives him confidence of being untouchable?

Or he could just be playing silly buggers on Twa*ter. big grin
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Post by aquila on 08.07.15 20:20

@NickE wrote:Tweet from Gamble yesterday:
"Knowledge is power,& knowledge abt secrets of powerful people is real power".



What does he mean?
I've just looked at Jim Gamble's tweets and I can't find the tweet you quote. Do you have a screenshot or a link?

I don't do Twitter but I'm able to read Twitter and this is the only Twitter account I know of Jim Gamble.

https://twitter.com/jimgamble_ineqe
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Post by aquila on 08.07.15 20:48

@Nick E

I found the Tweet and here it is

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[*]Susan G Crocombe@shinybluedress Jul 7
How can this NOT be a paedophile ring? Surely the definition is "where 2 or 3 (or more) are gathered together?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-33408092 …
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[*]Rockpool@rockpool8 Jul 7
@shinybluedress ridiculous. How many CSA perpetrators actually act alone? Organised crime networks which share images & information.
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[*]Jim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE Jul 7
@rockpool8 @shinybluedress IME most act alone it's the nature of their crime. Rings/grps who support/hide one another represent huge threats
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[*]Susan G Crocombe@shinybluedress Jul 7
@JimGamble_INEQE @rockpool8 yes - even the village idiots were powerful by the very fact that they colluded to hide & protect each other
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@shinybluedress @rockpool8 knowledge is power & knowledge abt the secrets of powerful people is real power
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Post by NickE on 08.07.15 21:55

Thank you
I didn't find this tweet direct from Gamble,someone else quoted his tweet on #mccann

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Post by Richard IV on 08.07.15 22:45

When searching for info on JG, it`s noticeable how he doesn`t give dates on his CV or in interviews during his time in the RUC.  His Linkedin profile starts in 2000 and doesn`t mention the RUC.  We don`t even know how old he is.  In one interview the interviewer states JG has been in the police for 30 years - I assume that takes him up to starting at CEOP, so maybe he was born around 1956. If the 30 years takes him to when he left CEOP, he may have been born in 1961.

Whichever, it looks as if he could have been in the RUC in the 80s when the Stalker Inquiry took place (1984-1986).  John Stalker discovered some pretty damning stuff about the RUC but he was prevented from interviewing some witnesses (don`t know who by) and afterwards someone tried to blacken his name.  It seems it was a difficult time for John Stalker. 

Anyway, I found this youtube video about it for anyone that`s interested.

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Post by sallypelt on 08.07.15 23:07

@Richard IV wrote:When searching for info on JG, it`s noticeable how he doesn`t give dates on his CV or in interviews during his time in the RUC.  His Linkedin profile starts in 2000 and doesn`t mention the RUC.  We don`t even know how old he is.  In one interview the interviewer states JG has been in the police for 30 years - I assume that takes him up to starting at CEOP, so maybe he was born around 1956. If the 30 years takes him to when he left CEOP, he may have been born in 1961.

Whichever, it looks as if he could have been in the RUC in the 80s when the Stalker Inquiry took place (1984-1986).  John Stalker discovered some pretty damning stuff about the RUC but he was prevented from interviewing some witnesses (don`t know who by) and afterwards someone tried to blacken his name.  It seems it was a difficult time for John Stalker. 

Anyway, I found this youtube video about it for anyone that`s interested.

Jim Gamble is 56 years old, according to this article, which states he was 48 in 2007:

By Bonnie Malkin
8:31AM BST 01 Jun 2007





With more than 25 years experience working in law enforcement, Jim Gamble, 48, is a true career policeman.
Before taking up his current job as the head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) Centre in 2006, he worked as a superintendent in the Police Service of Northern Ireland and, most recently, as acting chief constable and head of the National Crime Squad.
During his time in Northern Ireland he covered both uniform and detective roles before leading anti-terrorist responses in Britain and abroad.
At the National Crime Squad - which deals with serious and organised crime - he oversaw a complex portfolio ranging from firearm deployment to hi-tech crime and intelligence to professional standards and security.
He also set up the National Crime Squad's specialist response cell - the Paedophile Online Investigation Team - and was involved in the creation of the first international law enforcement partnership to combat child abuse online - the Virtual Global Taskforce.
Mr Gamble is married with three children and lives in London.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-officer-avoids-jail-for-attack-on-student-28701925.html

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Post by Richard IV on 08.07.15 23:26

Cheers for finding that sallypelt.  So born abt 1959.  If he was in the military police initially, seems he would not have been in the RUC around the time of the Stalker Inquiry, or still quite young.
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Post by Cammerigal on 01.07.17 2:47

Special branch and MI5 used sexual deviance evidence to blackmail, coerce and turn terrorists in Northern Ireland to spy for them, both loyalist and republican. It was a dirty war and even the best operators could not break into their secure cell systems.

We of course don't know for certain Gamble's precise intelligence role at that time, but we do know that he did become head of CEOP

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/kincora-boys-home-historic-abuse-inquiry-to-examine-abuse-claims-a7057116.html
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