Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

by Doug D 01.05.15 22:14

Trouble with all the spoof names, only pagemaster knows what’s genuine & she obviously can’t reveal anything.

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by Silverspeed 01.05.15 22:52

sharonl wrote:If your child is missing for whatever reason, surely any parent is 100% driven to find her from the second that she is discovered missing.

If Kate McCann is more driven to finding Madeleine now, how driven was she in [strike]April[strike] May 2007?

What has happened in the last 8 years to make Kate more determined to find Madeleine now, than she was then?

The press do the McCanns no favours at all really with their ridiculous headlines.

Take Winnie Johnson for example. That poor lady spent nearly half a century trying to find out where her son was buried. Sadly she didn't succeed but she was 100% driven on finding him from the moment he disappeared until her dying day.

The McCann's on the other hand are driven my money and greed and a never ending desire to be in the limelight. It's hard to believe that this whole sorry saga has been going on 2 years longer than the 2nd World War, and still with no end in sight.

As I write this I can't help but wonder what was actually going on eight years ago at this moment in time. Was Madeleine alive or had she already met her fate?
Will we ever know for sure?

by jeanmonroe 02.05.15 0:23

What will K&GM be 'doing' between NOW and her 'local bike' ride (UK) to 'find' Madeleine or do they have to wait UNTIL June to start 'finding' her?

Will she have more 'success' in 'finding' Madeleine with her riding a bike?

Still, lest we forget, she did say: "I just feel closer to Madeleine here in Portugal, I mean I might be wrong, she might be closer to the UK."

Might well be eh, Kate?

Might well be MUCH 'closer' to the UK, eh Kate?

Might well be IN the UK eh Kate?

In her luxury 'lair' within a 10km radius of a 'particular place' you might 'visit' on your 'bike ride'?

And YOU, and the biker 'boyz', miraculously, 'found' her!

A-MAZING!

Ps: If she just 'feels' CLOSER to Madeleine in Portugal, why isn't she doing her bike ride, THERE?

I'm sure she'd get a 'warm' welcome, from the family orientated, kind hearted, Portuguese people!

by aiyoyo 02.05.15 5:45

sharonl wrote:If your child is missing for whatever reason, surely any parent is 100% driven to find her from the second that she is discovered missing.

NOT this set of parents. They didn't search because it was too dark. Now it's just $$$ talk.
She will say anything just to justify the blood money.

by **PeterMac** 02.05.15 8:19

Kate was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.

by Miraflores 02.05.15 9:23

PeterMac wrote:Kate was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.

No PeterMac you do them an injustice! Don't you remember the bewk, where they 'resumed their search' for an hour, by jumping over this, that and the other?

by Liz Eagles 02.05.15 9:26

Miraflores wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Kate was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.
No PeterMac you do them an injustice! Don't you remember the bewk, where they 'resumed their search' for an hour, by jumping over this, that and the other?

The following day their twins were placed back in the creche.

by **PeterMac** 02.05.15 11:23

Miraflores wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Kate was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.
No PeterMac you do them an injustice! Don't you remember the bewk, where they 'resumed their search' for an hour, by jumping over this, that and the other?

I do indeed. They "resumed" a search, which they hadn't actually started - which is a strange use of language, but given the mangled grammar and syntax which was their norm for that period, can perhaps be forgiven.
Then, they looked around, jumped over things, and after 'nearly an hour" went back to the apartment
BUT - during all this jogging and jumping
The sainted Gerry did not feel it worth mentioning to his beatified wife that the immaculate Jane Tanner had seen an abductor carting Madeleine off some 10 hours before, and therefore didn't think it worth looking in that direction. And for that the canonised Kate forgave him. Gerry impeded the search from the start !
But I am rightly rebuked !

by aiyoyo 02.05.15 12:00

PeterMac wrote:Kate was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.

Give them a bit more than that !
They did spend some blood money on a series of "questionable" private eyes.

That said, they fail to follow up on private eyes' Hellish Lair claim, and fail to act on the e-fits.

That's how DRIVEN we know Kate IS.

by **PeterMac** 02.05.15 12:06

aiyoyo wrote:
That said, they fail to follow up on private eyes' Hellish Lair claim, and fail to act on the e-fits.
That's how DRIVEN we know Kate IS.

Or to answer the telephone when people rang in . . .

by jeanmonroe 02.05.15 12:41

aquila wrote:
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The following day their twins were placed back in the creche.
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ALONGSIDE, lest we forget, JW's child, and various T7 children.

ALL 'KNOWING' THERE WAS AN UNKNOWN, UNCAUGHT, PAEDOPHILE BURGLATOR 'ON THE LOOSE'!

Yeah, RIGHT!

The 'peado/burglator' MIGHT have had 'unguarded' access to the 'creche'!

Who are the T9 and JW's 'trying' to 'kid'?

Those 'kids' would have be 'chained' to their 'sides, legs, waists'!

UNLESS, of course, 'THEY' all knew, KNEW, there was NO, and NEVER WAS, a 'paedo/burglator'!

JW, on being 'told', his tennis 'buddy's' child had been 'abducted', by one of the 'gang', (MO), YAWNED, (probably) and WENT BACK TO BED!

"They" did NOT 'need' his eyes, and HELP, to 'search' for Madeleine!

Oh pleeeasssee!

"Pull the other one!"

by jeanmonroe 02.05.15 13:10

Just 'checked' the 'local bike' (UK) ride page and there's no huge £5,000 'donation' from CRA/Missing People, 'devotee' Huge Grant, as YET!

just to add: KM will NOT be ACTUALLY be 'searching' for Madeleine, in June, she'll be raising 'awareness' for OTHER people to 'search' for her child!

NOT her,................... obviously!

Far to 'bizzy, bizzy, bizzy' to do that!

'ruuning, bike riding, fancy dinners at top hotels' etc.,

Will the McCann's and 'friends' be 'hi jacking', AGAIN, the Clapham Common, Missing People, 10k charidy 'run', TODAY?

Can't have, a REAL 'victim', April Jones' dad taking all the 'kudos' can they?

I reckon, all these 'charidy' erm, 'runs' with their T7 'friends' are a 'cover' for them to 'have a lick', of THIS past year's, 'donations/libel awards'....... 'lolly'!

all, mo, obviously.

by jeanmonroe 02.05.15 13:17

"WELL DONE" to Paul Jones for completing his 10k run!

Excellent!

A REAL dad!

by Liz Eagles 02.05.15 15:44

I'm not sure where to put this observation so I'm sticking it here.

The Missing People charity is currently advertising two salaried vacancies on their website, a Senior Service Co-ordinator and Return Home Interview Co-ordinator with salaries of £26/27k pa and £23/24k pa pro rata.

Both positions offer the same benefits as listed below. I have highlighted in red something which I'm hoping someone can explain to me.

Benefits

25 days annual leave per annum/pro rata plus statutory holidays
Additional annual leave days awarded on length of service*
Company pension contribution
Access to confidential GP, financial and legal information and counselling helplines
Life insurance (3 x salary)*
Interest-free Season Ticket Loans*
Additional maternity and paternity pay and leave*
Childcare vouchers
Eye care vouchers

*available after probation period passed

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by **Tony Bennett** 02.05.15 15:56

aquila wrote: I have highlighted in red something which I'm hoping someone can explain to me.

Benefits

Access to confidential GP, financial and legal information and counselling helplines

Presumably, part and parcel of the employee benefits package includes these, all provided free if and when you may need them:

- free access to somone - a doctor - who is not your GP, to discuss any confidential medical issues you may have

- the free services of a financial adviser

- free provision of legal information (though not advice) should you need it and

- free counselling on personal and relationship issues.

It seems this bike ride is mainly to pay for two new jobs

by Liz Eagles 02.05.15 16:20

Tony Bennett wrote:
aquila wrote: I have highlighted in red something which I'm hoping someone can explain to me.

Benefits

Access to confidential GP, financial and legal information and counselling helplines

Presumably, part and parcel of the employee benefits package includes these, all provided free if and when you may need them:

- free access to somone - a doctor - who is not your GP, to discuss any confidential medical issues you may have

- the free services of a financial adviser

- free provision of legal information (though not advice) should you need it and

- free counselling on personal and relationship issues.

It seems this bike ride is mainly to pay for two new jobs

Thank you for explaining Tony.

by j.rob 03.05.15 14:21

She said: "As the eighth anniversary of our daughter Madeleine's abduction is upon us, I'm more driven than ever to continue the search for Madeleine and to help other families who face the pain of a child being missing. All of us can play a part in helping this important charity."

Mrs McCann will lead 20 cyclists on a Cycle Challenge starting at Arthur's Seat, Edinburgh's landmark hill, on June 13.
They will then take in Newcastle, York, Nottingham and Northampton before finishing at the Tower of London on June 17.

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Someone is having a larf here, surely? Why is Kate's cycle challenge ending at the Tower of London, of all places? What has this got to do with missing children or Madeleine?

Is someone being "sent to the Tower" perhaps? Or is it a warning that Traitor's Gate awaits those who break ranks?

My mind is boggling at the possible photo-opportunities if, as someone pointed out on Twitter I think it was, the cycle route will be lined by people booing.

But really, why end a charity cycle ride to raise money and awareness for missing children at an iconic landmark synonymous with centuries of bloody history?

While it is true that more recent photos of Kate do portray her rather like a woman condemned, surely there would be more fitting places for an end-of-charity cycle (for missing children) photo-op than the Tower of London?

Or perhaps not.....

This case gets more bizarre by the minute.

by **PeterMac** 03.05.15 15:17

Are the twins expected to look after themselves for those four days ?

by nomendelta 03.05.15 15:32

Well given that they seemed to struggle with arranging childcare for their trips to the hearings in Portugal is entirely possible the twins will have to take care of themselves. Whatever, I'm quite sure that it'll all be within the bounds of responsible parenting.

by sammyc 03.05.15 20:14

PeterMac wrote:Are the twins expected to look after themselves for those four days ?

Oh come on PM, now you are being a bit silly. The twins and Madeleine (all under 4 years old) were left to themselves, more than eight years ago- night after night , so why should anyone care for their welfare now?

by **sharonl** 03.05.15 22:13

Two new directors recently appointed

Sarah Godwin ( mother of Quentin Godwin - Missing from Auckland NZ, since 1992 - aged 18

Justin Benedict Mclaren

by Guest 03.05.15 23:01

[quote="j.rob"][size=16]She said: "As the eighth anniversary of our daughter Madeleine's abduction is upon us, I'm more driven than ever to continue the search for Madeleine and to help other families who face the pain of a child being missing. All of us can play a part in helping this important charity."[/size]

[size=16]Mrs McCann will lead 20 cyclists on a Cycle Challenge starting at Arthur's Seat, Edinburgh's landmark hill, on June 13.[/size]
[size=16]They will then take in Newcastle, York, Nottingham and Northampton before [u][b]finishing at the Tower of London on June 17.[/b][/u][/size]

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[size=16]Someone is having a larf here, surely? Why is Kate's cycle challenge ending at the Tower of London, of all places? What has this got to do with missing children or Madeleine?[/size]

[color=#050000][font=Arial, Courier][size=16]Is someone being "sent to the Tower" perhaps? Or is it a warning that Traitor's Gate awaits those who break ranks?[/size][/font][/color]

[size=16]My mind is boggling at the possible photo-opportunities if, as someone pointed out on Twitter I think it was, the cycle route will be lined by people booing. [/size]

[color=#050000][font=Arial, Courier][size=16]But really, why end a charity cycle ride to raise money and awareness for missing children at an iconic landmark synonymous with centuries of bloody history?[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#050000][font=Arial, Courier][size=16]While it is true that more recent photos of Kate do portray her rather like a woman condemned, surely there would be more fitting places for an end-of-charity cycle (for missing children) photo-op than the Tower of London?[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#050000][font=Arial, Courier][size=16]Or perhaps not.....[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#050000][font=Arial, Courier][size=16]This case gets more bizarre by the minute.[/size][/font][/color][/quote]

Didn't Missing People barge in on Richard III's little party the other day?
And was he not the one who murdered those little princes in the Tower?
THE TOWER, Simples! So: repair thee hence, to this self-same Tower, you dolts!

by jeanmonroe 04.05.15 14:08

Will the 'dossier' Edinburgh 'pond' be the starting point for the 'local bike' (UK) ride?

Will Crunt and S News be 'there' to record it?

(RHETORICAL!)

Is the 'path' from the 'pond' even 'wide' enough for the 'cyclists' to get pass 'Cankles'?

by **PeterMac** 04.05.15 14:16

jeanmonroe wrote:Will the 'dossier' Edinburgh 'pond' be the starting point for the 'local bike' (UK) ride?

Here it is. Craiglockart Pond, Edinburgh
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by jeanmonroe 04.05.15 14:43

It wouldn't surprise me to see Kelly on the telly speaking to Kate McCann about this latest sporting sacrifice to help others.
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Somebody 'asked' will KM 'feign' injury and not be able to 'take part' in the 'local bike' (UK) ride, ergo, dosen't have to 'hear' er, 'comments', from bystanders, on her 'epic' endeavour?

I'm 'reminded'

18th April 2013.

'And it's gone well really until the last five weeks. I've got a couple of problems, I've had a recurrent Achilles tendon problems... and I’ve also got a problem with the joint in my left foot.'

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Hope she dosen't 'sprain' one of her 'cankles' before the 'ride'! winkwink

As for the 'joint' in her foot, she does know there could be drug 'sniffer' dogs on the 500 mile 'route', dosen't she?

Just to add: Speaking to The Sun recently about the internet abuse, the McCann's family spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said: 'This material has been brought to the attention of the police. One of the posts is actually a death threat and is being dealt with appropriately.'

So if it WERE an ACTUAL 'death threat' how come nobody is 'serving time', or did 'serve time', for that 'heinous' CRIME, Clarence?

Did Clarence Mitchell ever 'report' pro McCann 'supporters' ACTUAL 'death threats', which were 'illegal/criminal', to BL, to the police?

(rhetorical!)

Witholding 'information' about a possible 'criminal offence', 'to' B Leyland, is also a criminal 'offence' Mitchell

Hope you DID tell the police!

by Casey5 04.05.15 14:52

Why doesn't Kate cycle around the ten mile radius of PDL, surely she could combine raising money for missing children with actually searching for her own daughter?

by Doug D 04.05.15 16:58

Whoops indeed!!

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][/size][size=37] Fiona's doing hers "in memory of" Madeleine [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I always thought that was for ppl who are DEAD.[/size]

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Thanks to Controversy FB site. (eta it may just have been twitter feed)

eta:

This is Fiona Webster’s Just Giving page. Interestingly she is posting under Webster rather than Payne. Have we seen that before?
‘Story

Thanks for taking the time to visit my JustGiving page.

On May 3rd 2007, my family and I were holidaying with our friends Kate and Gerry McCann in Portugal when the unimaginable happened; their daughter, Madeleine, was abducted. The intolerable pain and devastation that ensued for my dear friends will stay with me forever - it is the most brutal relentless agony I have ever witnessed, and it doesn't stop, ever. The ripples are far reaching also, for the family, and friends who desperately try to support and help whilst also dealing with their own feelings of loss and distress.’

by plebgate 04.05.15 18:23

Snipped from the post above from justgiving page of Fi Webster:

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On May 3rd 2007, my family and I were holidaying with our friends Kate and Gerry McCann in Portugal when the unimaginable happened; their daughter, Madeleine, was abducted. The intolerable pain and devastation that ensued for my dear friends will stay with me forever - it is the most brutal relentless agony I have ever witnessed, and it doesn't stop, ever."

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I wonder why Fi. didn't get in the witness box in Portugal and tell Madam Judge what she had witnessed?

by j.rob 04.05.15 20:18

Didn't Missing People barge in on Richard III's little party the other day?
And was he not the one who murdered those little princes in the Tower?
THE TOWER, Simples! So: repair thee hence, to this self-same Tower, you dolts!
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Indeed. I had thought of that too...

Blood on their hands???

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I have always found this photo rather strange. I think Madeleine is supposed to have done this not that long before the fateful holiday so she would have been three going on four. Three to four year olds produce far more original artwork than that when decorating ceramics or drawing.

This is what a baby would do. Dip their hands in paint and then plant it on the plate. It is totally not an age-appropriate piece of art. That is not to say that three to four year olds don't like painting with their hands and fingers but by that age they are well past the stage where seeing an imprint of their hands would be exciting or creative.

by j.rob 04.05.15 20:26

Doug D wrote:Whoops indeed!!

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][/size][size=37] Fiona's doing hers "in memory of" Madeleine [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I always thought that was for ppl who are DEAD.[/size]

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Thanks to Controversy FB site. (eta it may just have been twitter feed)

eta:

This is Fiona Webster’s Just Giving page. Interestingly she is posting under Webster rather than Payne. Have we seen that before?
‘Story

Thanks for taking the time to visit my JustGiving page.

On May 3rd 2007, my family and I were holidaying with our friends Kate and Gerry McCann in Portugal when the unimaginable happened; their daughter, Madeleine, was abducted. The intolerable pain and devastation that ensued for my dear friends will stay with me forever - it is the most brutal relentless agony I have ever witnessed, and it doesn't stop, ever. The ripples are far reaching also, for the family, and friends who desperately try to support and help whilst also dealing with their own feelings of loss and distress.’

I wonder why she is posting under the name Webster rather than Payne? Is she still married to David Payne?

As you say, "in memory of Madeleine McCann" says it all.

Madeleine is dead, not missing. They all know it. We all know it. Everyone knows it.

So what is the money being raised for? To support dead people?